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No this was SUPER early afaik. Think like MW2 time when D4 and Speedy were basically the biggest Comedy COD YouTubers

To add to this, the reason D4 was against people joining was because in the past other people had used the crew to build their own success. So he was weary of being used again

Since he was by himself it only could've been a penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage. But if he gave up the time he gained from cutting the chicane then it basically just becomes one of the 3 times a driver is allowed to go off track during the race before they get a penalty. If he was really trying to cut the chicane to gain an advantage he would've gone more to the right and avoided the bollard to avoid damage. As for the bollard itself, it just happens. Probably less dangerous than someone's front wing endplate coming off after minor contact since the cone doesn't leave shards of carbon fiber on track so it's not something you penalize. It's just uncommon because they're only used for blind turns to help the drivers see where the turn is.

Lando made a mistake in turn 1 and lost 0.75s in sector 1. Outside of that yeah I think the tires were just not in the right window for anyone over the full lap. Seems like everyone was complaining they didn't feel good

Oh I completely agree on that. I'm just saying at least as good because the people will try to claim that Indy drivers are the F1 rejects when they clearly have no knowledge of the series

You do know that 2nd place in F4 scores the same amount of super license points as 4th in Indycar right? Using points is one of the worst ways to determine a drivers readiness for F1. Herta was clearly good enough to drive in F1 to at least the standard set by drivers like Logan and Lance, yet couldn't qualify. I don't think it's controversial to say that 5th place in Indycar is more impressive than winning F4. To disprove the points system even more, 2nd in F4 gets the same number of points as 4th in Indycar. Points don't show how good a driver is, just what categories they drive in...

Herta won multiple races in Indycar. If that's not good enough to at least get a chance in F1 then there's something obviously wrong with using it to say a driver is good enough or not. 5th place in F3 scores more points than 4th in Indycar. You can finish 2nd in F4 and score the same as 4th in Indy. These show that they obviously only value drivers in their own junior series regardless of skill or talent.

Also the exception they applied for with Herta was that he would have had enough points if the Covid season didn't get shortened resulting in less points being given. If an exception can't be made for an exceptional occurrence preventing a good driver their opportunity, then you can't grant an exception for another good driver that simply needs to wait until Monza to have theirs

Ask the FIA that then. They're the ones who make arbitrary rules all the time. The point I was making was that he just doesn't meet one of the reauirements, not that he'll magically gain driving ability on his birthday. I agree that if he's proven he's good enough then he should be able to compete. But the rule says you have to be 18 and so everyone has to follow it. They don't grant exceptions for track limits (anymore) even when it results in a slower lap because those are the rules. And there's also plenty of other Mercedes drivers with super licenses they could've replaced Logan with like Mick or Vesti that wouldn't do any worse than Logan until Antonelli meets the requirements. His birthday is August 25th and Monza is on September 1st less than a week after. He can jump in then when he gets his super license

Yeah I think if it was on purpose then all of the cars would've used it. Will Power didn't use it on any of the restarts when he could've which makes sense why he got a grid drop instead of being disqualified like the others who did use it to make passes when they shouldn't have. Odd that they could make that mistake when they're one of the top 2 teams in the sport though

Fair but there's other reserve drivers that DO have their super license. Mick likely wouldn't be worse than Logan would he? But because of his WEC duties they could fairly easily have an excuse to drop him for Antonelli when he turns 18 which happens just before Monza

For me it's not about dropping Logan. It's about the fact that they're doing it for someone who doesn't qualify yet. Why not give someone like Pourchaire who has actually won the F2 championship the opportunity. Or one of the many other drivers who actually have a super license and shown potential a chance. If they really want it to be Antonelli, the first race after he turns 18 is Monza this year. What better place to make your debut?

It's not about showing if he's good enough, it's about granting exceptions. He will still be good enough when he turns 18, and if they want his debut to be a home race, Monza is the first track after he turns 18.

It's 1 thing to apply for an exception when an exception happened- like Herta being a multiple race winner in Indycar still not getting enough points because Covid shorted that season so they didn't award the full points. It's another when he just straight up is too young

FIA awards 2nd in F4 (not even 1st) and the winner of F1 Academy the same number of super license points as 4th in Indycar... 3rd in Indy is the same as 3rd in F3. Crazy that so few points are given to Indycar drivers when it's clearly at least as good talent wise as F2 if not far better

This just shows that the super license point system has a serious flaw. A kid who won in the 4th tier has enough points to get his license but someone who has won multiple races in the highest tier of American open wheel series doesn't? Herta missed out because the covid season didn't award full points. They couldn't get an exception for an actual exceptional occurrence. Not being old enough isn't even remotely close to the reason Herta didn't get his license.

But to be more fair let's say Indy = F2 in terms of driver skills, yet Indy doesn't get points awarded as freely as F2. But let's put that down to FIA wanting to push drivers through their junior categories. Finishing 4th in F3 awards more points than finishing 4th in Indycar. Winning F1 Academy awards the same amount of points as 4th place in Indycar.

Granting Antonelli an exception when Herta couldn't get one is outrageous. Let him finish the season and if you truly believe in him, he will still perform next year when he's got more experience

Thing is Herta missed his super license because of Covid cutting that season short. So there's a fair argument for an exception to be made for such an exceptional event. Antonelli is just straight up too young. Not saying it won't be granted because of the money like you said, but it would really be telling about the FIA.

And let's not even talk about Antonelli's fairly disappointing performances this season in F2 based on the hype. I know he's a rookie and skipped F3 entirely but he's not shown pace to properly challenge for wins and made quite a few mistakes that cost him good results. IMO he needs at least the full season to develop more before making that choice to move him up but I just watch from home so what do I know

I believe the hardware is standardized, but they had run a kind of "All-Star" like event where the rules were different so they changed the code since that event allowed it. Most of the the Penske cars and their teams basically claimed they just forgot to switch it back but one of the drivers and their teams thought the rule changed permanently to allow it (won't get into how believable that is). They used that difference at one event without getting caught, but in practice for the race after that, there was an issue on Indycar's side where none of the cars could use it except for the Penske cars. Indycar then looked into it and realized their code didn't rely on indycar's signal that is sent to the cars which enables it

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He's just making the 10000 IQ play to take out the Williams so they don't have chassis:7073:

iirc when the red flag comes out, all drivers have to immediately enter the pit lane if they haven't already passed the entrance (we just rarely see this because most of the time the red comes out when everyone is behind SC). And when Russel crashed, because it was relatively early in the lap, there weren't that many cars between him and the pit entrance. If the stewards were quick about it they could've limited the number of cars that had to go past the site at the very least even if they wouldn't have gone any slower

Not even 1 minute later:6705:

Charles has the same number of races with Ferrari as Lando has with McLaren. Both of them had their 100th race in Austin this last season. Also Stroll started with Aston (then Force India) in 2019 as well, though he missed a few races so depending on if you're going by seasons at a team or number of races he could also qualify.

I think they should still show him crossing the line. But at least keep the battle on screen too. Plenty of times throughout the season we see side by side video. Just never when it's needed