The best comment here. This is exactly what I needed. I’m so glad I read through these. I may never have come across DARVO otherwise. This is what I’m going through. For a long time.

I’m still confused here. I don’t have any strong opinion of the term gaslighting. I just feel like miss information may have an interesting point so I’m trying to understand what she means.

That makes sense.

Thank you. These examples are more helpful.

You’re right. Quora does seem like a good resource. Thank you.

Yes, the stimulant is Modafinil because it’s the only one that felt more natural. I start the day energized and motivated. That goes away by 6pm or so. If I took more of the stimulant late in the day then I can get hypomanic. So I accept being less motivated towards the end of the day.

For the examples of gaslighting that’s listed on sites that explain them, would you just call those forms of manipulation?

An argument where one person brings up a concern to a manipulator about their hurtful behavior.

What do you mean by that?

When I was in middle school with bad social anxiety, I hated being watched and would chew perfect and slow. I found this quote on the internet:

“The fear of eating in front of others is a form of anxiety. It may develop as a symptom of social anxiety disorder, which occurs in people who have a fear of being judged or rejected in social situations.”

I went through the same thing and still deal with it. I’m amazed at how many people expect us to be perfect so if we get caught up in hypomanic and get irritable and angry during stress they see us as this throw away person even though we spend our lives designing our lives to prevent messing up. They won’t even read up on it or listen when I explain it. So they don’t want to know about it. And they definitely don’t want to work with us to manage it. It’s crazy to me. I expect myself to not get angry and lash out. I do every thing imaginable to prevent it. But the other person won’t do anything different such as notice when I’m agitated and don’t keep pushing on me. I naturally do that for others. I walk away. Sorry, I’m going off on my own issue with my gf. I’m sorry you deal with that. You’re worthy of love. You are not a throw away. You’re a unique person whose friends should hear you out.

This is a great example of why I asked the question. Because it’s not fair the younger generation misses out on being a part of something bigger and having that connection that adds meaning. Keep trying. I heard some people even use zoom for people who live far away. If you can make it happen, I bet you will forever feel like you did something so great and you will carry that feeling of being a proud good person. It will change you. It will empower you forever.

I spent a ton of my life alone even in relationships I was always hiking alone or reading or working out. What happened was I felt I had lead a good life so I gave myself to be there for my gf while she worked on her doctorate. Then we did drugs and got addicted to the sex part. Then we lost ourselves and broke up. So I had nothing and nobody. Then I got sober and we got back together. So now I’m trying to make sure I never feel isolated again. You have helped me the most as now I know I just need to promote, finish my last two classes for my mba, fix my credit and get a new car and make new friends.

I like both but strawberry is the one I eat the most. I like jelly so much I told my gf that anytime she’s traveling or at a shop that has unique jam to grab some.

Mine went from cyclothymia to full blown bi polar 2 after my mom’s death traumatized me.

Yes. I’m 50 next month. Your mind goes from imagining the long life ahead of you with all your friends and family to thinking you have like 15 to 20 years to live and many of your friends and family have already died. Nobody talked about this when I was growing up. It wasn’t until I was like 48 that I started thinking that way. It’s very sudden. My advice is to be one of the people who find a partner who is also your best friend and always strive to treat that relationship like it’s the only one you will ever have. Don’t let all the other options influence you. The grass looks greener but a long relationship is way better. A life like that makes getting older and dying a more fulfilling experience. You want that person there when you die to comfort you.

Stop! Before it’s too late and we’ve destroyed it all. Atreyu

I can never get enough peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

Grow it out super long since you have gone this far.

Big Red soda.

Yes, my kid saw a psychiatrist forever in high school and no meds worked. Turns out he was doing drugs the whole time.

She says “doot doot doo” when she wants to distract me from what she’s doing. Like sneaking past me to go take a dump.

For testosterone, it’s like an art so it’s good to have an experienced doctor.

Awesome