I've got no opinion or advice for what you're asking, but dear god brother, you are shredded. You're very lean and your muscle looks quite tight which is uncommon in enhanced lifters, which makes me think you're natural. I wanna ask how long you've been lifting and how consistently, but even if you don't reply I have to give you props.

If anyone's still following this, it's still bad news following. I skipped the run today and just got straight to lifting. I made it through my routine and had no problem hitting my normal reps until failure. I felt like death the entire time though, like there is an internal storage of energy I have that was giving out every single time - even now I'm shaking and feel way shittier than I normally do after a workout. It sounds like built up fatigue, but feels nothing like it did back when a deload helped me. Weirdly enough my pumps were much worse than normal, too, and my muscles still feel quite tense.

I slept quite a bit, drank a ton of water, had a regular amount of coffee, and ate possibly the healthiest and biggest breakfast I've had all week 3 hours before the lift. No clue why this is happening, but I'm not feeling great about it.

Rehash of something I asked yesterday, bonus points for anyone with personal experience: I've been lifting quite seriously for a year and a half, and I don't want the gym to continue to have as big a role as it has in my life. I just want to maintain. What I'm planning is to work out strictly every other day. So alternate between these 2 weeks:

Week 1: 90 mins pull day - 90 mins push day - 50 mins pull day + cardio

Week 2: 90 mins push day - 90 mins pull day - 50 mins push day + cardio - 50 mins pull day + cardio

With legs mixed in. Counting rests, I do about 12 sets per hour, maybe a little more. I intend to eat exactly enough to maintain my weight with a ton of protein - maybe a minor surplus because it's summer and my friends like ice cream.

I'm a little afraid of loosing my gains up until this point, to be honest. All the literature I've read says I'll be fine with this split, but I wanted to get some firsthand advice from anyone who might have maintained before.

I've heard the same thing, but in my experience there's a lot of leeway in terms of how strictly you should adhere to generic training advice. Most of the time these studies were done on near-beginners, in a controlled lab environment, over only a handful of months. I'm generally asking for regular-ass lifters who just decided to maintain. Generally, what I'm planning is actually pretty similar to what you suggest - just instead of full body I'm hitting push and pull on different days, and I have an easy-ish extra day in there.

Heart wasn't feeling great, but not worse than the rest of my body.

I started with a recomp, then finished my first cut-bulk cycle. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I love the way I look, and I don't want the gym to continue to have as big a role as it has in my life. I just want to maintain. What I'm planning is to work out strictly every other day. So alternate between these 2 weeks:

Week 1: 90 mins pull day - 90 mins push day - 50 mins pull day + cardio

Week 2: 90 mins push day - 90 mins pull day - 50 mins push day + cardio - 50 mins pull day + cardio

With legs mixed in. Counting rests, I do about 12 sets per hour, maybe a little more. I intend to eat exactly enough to maintain my weight with a ton of protein - maybe a minor surplus because it's summer and my friends like ice cream.

I'm a little afraid of loosing my gains up until this point, to be honest. All the literature I've read says I'll be fine with this split, but I wanted to get some firsthand advice from anyone who might have maintained before.

I randomly got hit with major fatigue before my workout today. I decided to start with a pre-lift jog to warm my body up. About 4 minutes in I was gasping for breath - it felt like my lungs were fighting for life and it was as if my whole body was going to muscular failure. I usually run this loop for 30 minutes no problem.

I've felt fatigue before, and I doubt it's that - I'm too close to my last deload anyways. I ate even more than normal a few hours before and I didn't get a stitch, so I doubt it was diet (although, I probably could have done with more whole foods today - but I did get carbs and protein all set). I don't think it's water consumption either.

Any ideas what could have caused this? I decided to let my body rest and do push day tomorrow instead, but I really want to be sure this doesn't happen again.

I was on a bulk, and working out a fair bit more than I tend to normally (basically, went from a little over 5 hours a week of lifting to a little over 9). I started to feel like someone tore out my spine and kept tazing it. I took an 8 week period where I hit the gym only 3 times instead of 7. I felt insanely good after, and started to come in to the gym with a ton more energy.

That's basically the point of deloading. Since taking a weeks' break isn't really going to impact your muscles much, it's doing that and returning with more vigor after dissipating built up stress.

I'm going to go against traditional advice here and say - if you don't feel like you need it, there's no need to do it. I wouldn't even plan it out way ahead of time, if you can feel an overall physical fatigue setting in in your life, just plan to take one in a week or two.

I know that this is a thread for questions, but man I wish I had that problem.

Bodybuilding made me realize that there are two camps of people in this world - those that eat the right amount and feel it's too little, and those that eat the right amount and feel it's too much. I have no idea how the biology of someone like you came to exist but damn I wish I had it, I never feel like I've had enough, even when I was bulking.

No disrespect ofc, everyone I've talked to with my problem or your problem seriously wishes they were on the other side of the camp lol. The grass is always greener.

Oh, forgot to add - you should shoot for between 8 and 12 reps per set.

I know this seems like a contradiction - "don't limit your sets to a certain number of reps" and "try and limit your sets to 12 reps". The way bodybuilders do this is via weight added. Once I can consistently do around 14 or 15 reps of an exercise with X lbs total, I'll start using either (X + 5)lbs or (X + 2.5)lbs. More weight makes the exercise more challenging for your muscles, and so adding that extra weight means I'll probably then only be able to do 7 or 8 reps. As long as you're consistently lifting to failure and eating enough (protein), you'll slowly start to see that you can do more reps with the same weight before hitting failure.

That's why resistance training has such a big emphasis when it comes to bodybuilding - if you're just doing bodyweight exercises (IE push ups), once you get really strong and good with the trained muscle, it gets difficult to make the exercise harder (without doing variations). I still take bodyweight exercises usually to failure as a warm up, but I wouldn't have even remotely as much progress as I do without weights.

One last piece of unsolicited advice: consistency is key. If you have a good diet 6 days a week and lift weights 6 days a week, you'll see progress. I think that's why most people who get into lifting love it as a hobby despite it being pretty objectively painful - you can't cheat this process. Life will beat and swindle the everliving shit out of you, but in a world full of fakers who cheat their way to the top, muscles cannot be purchased. They're essentially public proof that you're not a slacker.

I'm going to go ahead and say that that's not only not good, but particularly terrible.

First, it's extremely important to take each exercise you do to muscular failure, if not 1 or 2 reps close to failure. That means that you don't stop until the muscle you're using in that movement is physically incapable of performing it one more time. It sounds hard to distinguish from stopping because you're fatigued - but it's actually pretty dang intuitive once you get the hang of it; For the first few months you'll probably be able to put on muscle without doing this (just because any stimulation as a beginner will help), but it'll be a far better start to your lifting journey if you go to failure as normal.
So when you're looking at a routine like this, there's a problem with saying "3 sets of push ups, 15 reps per set". If you limit yourself to 15 reps, you're either not going to be able to do them all, or you'll still have gas left in the tank at the end of your sets and you'll be leaving a lot of gains on the table. What you should plan for is "3 sets of push ups, each until my chest and/or triceps are incapable of pushing me up one rep further"

Second, the spread on that plan on it's own isn't great. You have a lot of volume for front/side delts, chest and triceps, but your biceps, traps, lats will seriously suffer, and your abs, obliques and legs could each probably use more stimulation too. I might catch some flak for saying this, but it's not a spectacular idea to do the same routine every day, either. Your muscles will need time to heal. Look into a PPL or "Push Pull Legs" split, or even just a Push/Pull split with legs mixed in (what I do) or an Upper/Lower split. You should probably double the number of exercises you do there, but split them across 2 different types of days.

Third, only 3 or 4 times per week with a plan of that volume is pretty limited. If I were in your shoes, I'd shoot for 5, 6 days a week when you can. Again, as a beginner lifter (especially if you're young) you'll probably see some early gains with only 3/4 days, but it'll plateau pretty quick.

Good luck, brother.

Therapy is an option I've tried, but it hasn't done me much good after hopping from therapist to therapist. It felt to me like everyone I saw wanted to listen to me whine rather than find ways to improve my situation. I don't think bullying is as well research as most psychology student would like to admit.

That said, yeah, I generally avoid people who treat me like this. But at the end of the day, even if I have to be the bad guy, I'd like to stop running. While I do generally keep toxic people out of my life, I've learned that there's no way to completely eradicate them without cutting off all humans altogether. Fact of the matter is, there are people around these "abusive" individuals who don't have to deal with their nonsense like I do. I can minimize my time around these individuals, but when I do have to spend time with them, I'd like to not be a victim.

I felt the same about high school. Look at me now. For what it's worth, I suppose if I did college different it would have been better on paper, but the way my life is going now is even better than it was then.

Confidence from winning a fight? Or from being strong in general?

Interesting. Did you feel physical fear of others before? I've been hit before but I haven't been in a fight, to me getting intimidated by someone half my height wouldn't feel any different than a 350lb bouncer.

Maybe part of it is that I dislike fighting, so I similarly dislike arguing.

"Friendly" Bullying

I am a person who has been bullied basically my entire life. Best to get that out of the way off of the get-go.

 

But basically after mid-high-school, I experienced a huge shift in who was picking on me. It stopped being strangers and started being people I would call “friends.” Sometimes it’s people I grew up with joined at the hip, and sometimes it’s the guy at work who I’m just a little closer with than all my other teammates. It’s not that I don’t sometime catch heat from people I’m not tight with, but most of the time they’re not the main problem.

Either way, this is a very different kind of bullying from shoving in lockers and overt name calling, though I don’t think that’s ever been a particularly common problem. It’s mainly about people testing you. Seeing how much they can get away with. Dismissing your work ethic in front of co-workers. Insulting you or blaming you for issues you didn’t cause when you’re unsafe or away from home. Demeaning your efforts because they’re uncomfortable with that own aspect they have in themselves.

And the worst part of it – it usually is done as a joke that straddles “the line”, or is presented as a criticism of your actions. In other words, this is socially acceptable bullying.

 

I feel like I’m at the first point in my life where I’m able to slow down and take a breath – I don’t feel like I’m fighting for my life anymore. Because of that, this has now become the biggest issue on my plate, and I’ve been able to look at it more critically. I’ve been analyzing when this happens to me.

Specifically, at work, I’ve been dealing with someone ribbing on me a little bit more than they should. The good news is that the perpetrator here has done it to a few other people, and I’ve been able to analyze patterns on who gets picked as a victim and why. For people who don’t really have to deal with any nonsense from this guy, I’ve been able to split them into two camps:

 

1.      Disposition: There are certain people who, from the get go, don’t seem to get picked on at all. The thing that’s interesting is every time I try to nail down what traits unite these people, I can find at least one or two exceptions among them. It’s almost like there’s a certain “respectability factor” that people in this group have that we don’t really have a word for yet. There are a few traits that seem to put people into this camp, and a few that keep them out, but there’s no overlying rule that’s 100% applicable here.

2.      Response Time: This is more of an “in-between” set of people who still sometimes get “checked” by others, but not as often. At least, not enough to be a problem. These people don’t necessarily have an “unbullyable” disposition, but they’re very good at responding to their boundaries getting pushed. Generally they can immediately analyze how serious an insult against them is, and respond with an equally as harsh if not slightly harsher quip back. I’ve tried to be part of this group for awhile, but I’m not that witty.

 

Ultimately, this is my personal dilemma: I dislike people. I think that my life would be miserable were I to be completely alone, so I “put myself out there” as much as I‘m okay with. But the fact of the matter is that even setting aside a pretty significant social anxiety disorder, I am a massive introvert, and my brain doesn’t work so good around other people. If I try to follow a complex set of rules every single interaction simply for the sake of not getting bullied, I’m going to get exhausted and just decide to stop spending time with people. In other words, I can’t try and artificially change myself too much. I’m at a point in my life where the ROI of forcing myself to act a certain way around others is too minimal for the effect of not getting picked on – especially since there’s no guarantee that such an act would work.

In other words, the “fix” here is not to simply change my personality overnight. I need to take a small step, or adopt a new mentality, that will help me along this journey.

Historically I’ve tried to do this by trying to improve my “Response Time” – but ultimately that’s just backfired. I wait and wait until someone insults me, and if I can’t respond in time (with something smart or otherwise) I just look at the floor and feel bad about myself falling short of expectations for a few days. Then I go back to waiting for someone to insult me. That’s a shit way to approach this, much less, life in general.

 

I’m getting past the point of word vomit, but I wanted to get opinions. Has anyone else done further analysis on this? Any recommendations for what worked for them?

Someone said something to me recently that really put me off, and it was in front of a group of people so I feel like I’ve been publicly embarrassed. The only way I can rest easy after that is by promising myself I’ll take steps to improve myself and my situation, to stop getting used as a doormat.

 

As an aside, I’m told a good approach is to “not give a f---“, but I don’t think that that will necessarily work in my case for a few reasons. To begin with, I would say I already don’t overthink my words or actions – I laugh when I think something is funny and I try my hand at something when I think I’d like it. I have a hunch and I come across as nervous to people, but that’s specifically because I don’t give a f – I’m most comfortable approaching others with curiosity and distance. I’d like to keep approaching others like that regardless of how they perceive me; The only regard where I do start caring is when I get disrespected or bullied by others – and that’s specifically because I know it’ll make my life more difficult in the future, not much because I care what they think about me.

Oh yeah? How so?

I'm not asking to be snarky, and I won't be judgmental. I really want to know how it effects your thought process and how that changed the way you saw things before. I'd appreciate the perspective.

I won't get into specifics, but let me tell you a little piece about myself:

I had a shit time in High School. I was bullied really badly, it's to the point that I sometimes feel bad for spending time with others because in my head I'll bring their social reputation down just for being around them. It was that tough. I know for a fact that if I'm lucky enough to live another 100 years, that still won't be enough time to heal the scars I have.

Since then, something snapped and I've been going full steam ahead. Putting my everything into work, into building good friendships, into making others laugh, into bodybuilding. I don't waste time doomscrolling, I put myself out there.

The contrast between how shitty my life was before, and how great it is now has given me a dopamine high that I don't think most people will ever get to experience. That's the good thing about being in a shitty place - if you're young and energetic enough to crawl out - even a "pretty good" life will feel spectacular afterwards; It's just up from here.

College is great, it's an experience you can't ever get back. Your reasons for being miserable are valid. But I'm telling you man, start crawling out of that hole. It'll be hard at first, but once you get the ball rolling you'll feel a euphoria most others will never have a chance to see.

I took taekwondo lessons as a kid. I don't do it anymore, but I also frequented a boxing gym my later half of college. That aside I'm into bodybuilding now and I have a crazy muscular/lean frame.

That said, to be blunt, knowing how to fight hasn't really done much for my mental. The whole "knowing you could kick the ass of anyone in a room changes your thought process" seems like Tiktok hogwash.

Language or Technical Skill - The Cost of Learning One Thing over Another

Here's the TL;DR of what I'm going to ask: do you think that the cost of learning one "book smarts" piece of information prohibits the ability to learn more hard knowledge down the line? For example, if I were to spend 8 hours a day learning about A & B, would my knowledge of A be the same as if I had only just spent 4 hours learning A while my knowledge of B being the same as if I had only spent 4 hours learning B? Because as far as my understanding of the brain goes, we only have so much cortical territory reserved for hard knowledge, and consequently learning both A & B at the same time might ultimately lead to the two subjects' knowledge interfering with each other.

Here's why I ask - I've been evaluating what I want from life recently, and the short answer is that while I'm still kicking, in my 20s, and without a family of my own tying me down, I'd like to make poor decisions and be adventurous a little while longer. I haven't settled on where that's going to take me, but I've had the idea of taking up Software Engineering work in Japan at the top of my mind. Not for any reason besides it's fresh, new, and a place I really wanted to be in as a kid.

There's an official exam you can take to certify knowing a certain level Japanese - which for me is currently close to 0. I've been told that passing the beginner level of this exam won't really be that helpful for job hunting, but I'm still considering taking it when they offer this year just because it might show that I'm willing to put in effort to integrate - and that I think anyone moving anywhere should understand the local language a little.

The test seems to quiz on about the equivalent of 3 college courses worth of the language, around 20% of which I've learned over the last 2 weeks via a trial run. I'd have to cram the other 80% in about 2 months - which sounds tough - but I've found that as long as I dedicate myself to it for about 8 to 10 hours a week, I've been blessed with an weirdly insane ability to recall vocabulary, symbols, and grammar rules.

That said, 2 months is an insanely narrow window, if I commit to doing this I can do it - but I do have to commit. What's got me worried right now is how useful this will really be. There's about 1000 vocabulary words I'd have memorize (or 800 more), and if I ultimately decide not to move there down the line... then that's a lot of language to know that will be absolutely useless in my life. I'm worried I'll have just lost space in my brain to this specific skill that I'll never use. It's not so much about the time commitment, I actually really enjoy learning this stuff, but I think I'd for sure be able to put getting more certification in my line of work to better use - in addition to enjoying learning that even more. I guess I'm just worried I only have so much space in my head to memorize information, especially now that I'm mid-20s and my brain has stopped growing, and I want to be sure I'm using it in the best way possible. I already have a decent breadth of hobbies outside of my main interest, so I wouldn't say "expanding my general skillset" alone is a good enough justification for doing this .

I'm honestly leaning towards not learning the language, getting more certification in my profession may even be more useful in hunting down work across the pond. But I can't shake this idea that I'm walking away from something that might be useful. I could try and do both, but aside from the fact that there could be a time constraint, that feels like half-assing two things rather than whole-assing one.

I just wanted to open the floor to opinions before making my final decision on the matter. Hope that's making good use of this sub.

Choice Paralysis

I do not have the ability to make decisions.

At least on anything more than a small scale. I can figure out where to eat in 5 minutes flat. If I think I need to change out an exercise to progressively load better, I'll weigh the pros and cons and come to a decision in a few days. How to spend an evening in is never a big question for me.

But it's not the same when it comes to bigger picture events, or social events. Where should I suggest my friends hang out, what should we do? What do I do if I have the option to travel for work? Which of these two apartments should I pick? What personal project should I take on this summer? Do I text her back?

It's starting to get frustrating, I just can't ever make up my mind. I've tried a few strategies - a pros and cons lists, flipping a coin, etc. Never seems to work. Has anyone else in a similar position found anything that fits them?

It's funny, the idea has crossed my mind throughout life, but I've always had bigger fish to fry.

I'm still a far cry from my peers, but I've gotten better with social anxiety and "putting myself out there." Thing is, I don't really think it's impossible for me to meet a partner at this point in my life. I'm in good shape, I have a good job, maybe I could even meet someone through friends. I think the issue is just as much an introvert problem for me as it is a social anxiety one - relationships require a lot of attention to your partner. I've let weeks pass where I don't even talk to some of the people I love, you're telling me there's someone I'd need to text every single day? Or live with and literally see every day?

I love the freedom I have, and the fact that I can toggle my life to have as much solitude as I want. You don't get that with a partner.

We're taught, as individuals with SA, that we need to keep hammering away at this problem and "fix it." But I think that can flood into other parts of our lives and make us feel that we are broken in all aspects, and consequently that our preferences and feelings are innately wrong. That makes this hard to do, but to me I've started to frame it not as "is it possible for me to find a soulmate?" - but as "do I want a soulmate?" Because truth be told, if the answer really was a resounding 'yes' - then why don't I have one?

Awful.

I was picked on, bad, and in retrospect even with the experience I have now I have no idea how I should have handled it outside of "I should have left". People shamed me so bad that I felt awful for spending time with anyone, because I knew that appearing to be friends with me would plummet their social reputation. I'm forever going to spend my life feeling like I don't quite belong, and that I'm a burden, because of this.

On the plus side, it's only been up from there. I think that 90% of people in my position snap and develop severe social withdrawl or worse. I'm one of the 10% that was born with a brain that said "okay, fuck it, watch this". I still struggle to assert myself and feel belonging, but I went absolutely crazy in my senior year, college and afterwards trying to have as much fun, and accomplish as much as I possibly could. I've worked hard to be in a position where I feel validated every day, and the contrast to how my life used to be makes it that much better.

I'm about to start a deload week, and I wanted to run my approach by someone.

I'm on a bulk, and every week I traditionally do ~4 days where I lift intensely for ~100 minutes, and ~2 days where I left moderately for ~50 minutes then do cardio.

Generally when it comes to deloading, the advice I hear is to generally half volume by number of sets, and reduce intensity to leave around 2 or 3 more RIR at the end of a set. I think I'd fundamentally struggle with not going to failure, and I'd generally like to have more free time over this deload anyways. So instead, my plan is simply to do 2 of my regular, intense, 100 minute workout days - then 1 really short lifting + cardio day. All in all, this will be spread across 8 days total - so 3 days where I workout, 5 where I rest. I'm worried that, even if the volume of days is reduced, still doing intense to-failure lifts might interfere with my CNS "recharging" and dissipating that fatigue. Any opinions?

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I'm about to start a deload week, and I wanted to run my approach by someone.

I'm on a bulk, and every week I traditionally do ~4 days where I lift intensely for ~100 minutes, and ~2 days where I left moderately for ~50 minutes then do cardio.

Generally when it comes to deloading, the advice I hear is to generally half volume by number of sets, and reduce intensity to leave around 2 or 3 more RIR at the end of a set. I think I'd fundamentally struggle with not going to failure, and I'd generally like to have more free time over this deload anyways. So instead, my plan is simply to do 2 of my regular, intense, 100 minute workout days - then 1 really short lifting + cardio day. All in all, this will be spread across 8 days total - so 3 days where I workout, 5 where I rest. I'm worried that, even if the volume of days is reduced, still doing intense to-failure lifts might interfere with my CNS "recharging" and dissipating that fatigue. Any opinions?