I wonder why this keeps happening, Is TCG really doesn't care about the average player's feelings?
Card Game DiscussionTcg sells exactly how they want it to
TCG will forever be Konami's side chick, the OCG is his wife.
The side chick is always more fun though
Not with that censorship though…
No Maxx C at least!
Not this side chick though, not it
Always
Tcg was always a joke especially their side sets.
The Battle of Legend series is usually a nice product for reprint and import, but they really dropped to a new low
there is a reason why rarety collection 1 was a succes, the tcg wanted that for years.
the fact that they banned key cards from that set later was a slap in our face for hoping this whould be the new direction that the tcg whould take.
and they wonder why they get hate from the community
Meanwhile OCG is having a feast with Tatical Try Deck
I wonder how asian card shops can survive in this system while here they just cry and stops promoting ygo.
It’s because Asian card shops have tons and tons of different card game products to sell, and thetes a huge card player base overseas as well. That’s why Yugioh over there has to be dirt cheap - if they were any more expensive, players would just jump to another game.
Moreover, western card shops complain about Yugioh sets because it costs them money to buy product to sell, and it REALLY sucks when no one is buying said product. It’s just clogging up their shelves and it’s a waste of money. Here, most sets are filled with filler and people only buy product if they’re really good (like Rarity Collection 1). People end up just buying singles directly over just buying multiple booster packs. There’s been multiple sets that have come out recently where it just wasn’t worth buying anything in it tbh.
Another factor at play is the above example - where the TCG limits a really good card to only one extremely high rarity. Meaning you’ll have to buy quite a few boxes to potentially get this card - for Asian markets they can probably just buy one box and be done with it. For western players, having to buy multiple boxes is a pretty steep cost, at $60ish. Now looking at $120, $180, etc. is a steep cost for many many players; and worse if the pack is mostly filler cards that’ll never be used (like many of our latest sets). Most players don’t want to spend that much money just to chase that one card - thus why they just go direct singles over buying packs/boxes, thus why card shops here complain that people don’t buy Yugioh product.
To add, Japan is smaller than the US of A and most other nations in the TCG and the former's population is denser. Meaning that card shops have a larger audience nearby.
OCG is not only Japan
You make a point! It's why I'd love to establish a game shop that collected rare or expensive cards whenever they found one cheap, and sold it as a single in a limited edition sleeve or something, lined up from different games at the front counter case
In tcg, card shop hates Yu Gi Oh because bad loot rate and bad extension that player don't want to buy. If they want to live only from YGO, cards shop have to literaly buy cases (because it make the display cheaper), open it or most of it and then sell every card of the set. And even then, it's not guaranted that the set is good and that the cards will get selled. They can't rely on sellings box and display because player know that they are not worth and only single are better in 99% of the time.
In ocg, the mentality is different. Players love open boxes + they are sure to obtain really good and strong card even when they are not worth on their money. OCG cards Shop sell then a lot more box than TCG because of it.
the amount of yugioh displays that just sit collecting dust on my game shop's shelves is concerning. like so many sets were just bad, and it was a waste of money objectively for the shop to have bought them.
That's really sad. + The fact that Konami don't even want to tell you the list before you preorder it is bs. It's literaly gambling at this point.
The local near me (they are not YGO expert) bought 3 case of rarity 2 because they saw rarity 1 doing so good. Now they regret
Eastern card shops earn little money from selling boxes, usually they sell singles as their major profit.
They said the same about the western card shops. We need these 50-100 euro card prices or card shops go bust.
The money in singles are the cheap $3-10 cards because stores don't pay anything for them when people buylist.
Given the amount of advertisements and promotional crap they are doing for tactical try, it has to release in the TCG at this point or else they would just lose millions of dollars.
In before they take out tactic thrust and replace it with fiendish chain
Oh they absolutely know why they are disliked. Just that it never has shown to have any repercussions, and as such they will just continue. This wouldn't work in the OCG as people could just swap to one of the other countless TCGs there.
Still makes me sad Duel Masters went under over here. It's one of the most popular card games in Japan.
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Holy. Okay
Okay, but there are so many new cardgames now. Digimon, One Piece, DBZ, Lorcana, Star Wars not to mention Magic and Pokémon are still in a better spot right now.
Konami should be more careful, there's so many people who jumped ship (long ago).
Okay, but there are so many new cardgames now. Digimon, One Piece, DBZ, Lorcana, Star Wars not to mention Magic and Pokémon
all games that share basically 0 similarities with yugioh though. yugioh will always have a niche that won't be covered by other games
the only big risk is top competitive players moving away, but as long as locals are solid i think yugioh isnt going anywhere
That is true. YuGiOh, to me, is the best card game mechanically. Even with the feature creep that haunts it. But the game is being so mismanaged right now.
for Asian market like my region one piece is slowly taking away some competitive players from Yu-Gi-Oh because of the flagship tournament price card, and our country just got one piece world championship and so people knew the prize card is worth that much,even some cheater going viral in Twitter is from our country sadly, just for the prize card
Each month there's a few flagship tournament going on and player can sell the prize card as compare to boring Yu-Gi-Oh day/ranking, Yu-Gi-Oh event also not as attractive as they only give out cheap mats/sleeve as compared to one piece prize card
Also there's other card game like ws ua bs ets, although not as big as Yu-Gi-Oh, some expensive card like ws signature or ua card worth so damn much as compared to recent lede info Yu-Gi-Oh pack, player would open and sell those cards to Japan/Taiwan for much more than our own country, our Yu-Gi-Oh jp cards are from Korean paper, and it's known as low quality "toilet paper", as compared to jp printed Yu-Gi-Oh card, collection wise
And lastly there's pokemon, remain the biggest TCG for my region as far as I'm aware, although the tournament prize is not as good as one piece, but the cost of entry is cheaper than Yu-Gi-Oh when compared top meta lowest rarity decks
Baronne absolutely deserved that ban
yes, but is was a dirty move to ban it after it became so accessible, for once, new/beginner players could be competitive with these strong/OP cards that usually cost €80+
Least we will always have casual play, but i agree banning stuff after making hard to obtain cards as reprint accessible is diabolical behavior
Baronne is absolutely overloaded for how easy she is to summon. 3 strong effects and absolutely generic.
But my Speedroid Kashtira deck now lacks purpose. There are no strong high level wind synchro monsters that are as easy to summon as her. They usually require between 1 ans 3 synchromonsters. So Baronne is basically 2 Monsters and stronger than Cosmic Blazar who needs 6 materials (3 synchros) effectivly. Talking about Power Creep.
But i still liked her, she was a generic boss in many decks XD.
This speaks more to the neglect Konami keeps showing to the Wind attribute, than the power of Baronne. What they really need to do is JUST GIVE US WIND MONSTERS DAMMIT. Give us a pack that's all about wind monsters, something, anything to get the number of niche, useful, utility, and bosses to something that you can do without needing to rely on singularly strong cards that are obligated to be Wind due to being attached to older themes.
Like there was that time I was playing against Yubel and when they gave me a Kaiju, I just normal summoned ghost belle, sync for 10 and bam, Baronne
You say that but Baronne had to go
I pulled 2 barronne and 2 borrelsavage in the same pack and was like “yeah, good bye buddy.” But I believe nothing was short printed. Either way, when something is too easy to get, they usually axe it.
rarity collection 1 was great cuz it has the same cards as ocg (- maxx c)
rarity collection 2 was mid cuz the card pull was decided by tcg
the card pull was decided by tcg
card pool
They don't wonder. They don't care. People still buy their shit products while complaining.
they also wonder why stores are stopping carrying the game. The nearest walmart to me doesnt carry ANY yugioh while the second closest hasnt had anything new since the dark world structure from what a year and a half ago? Its dead.
Konami doesn’t care about you the player, you the consumer, you the fan, or even the game of yugioh. The only thing they care about is money. If there aren’t big dollar signs, they won’t go that way. If they could make 1 more dollar per year from yugioh, but all the NA players would hate it, or they could make 1 dollar less per year and everyone loves their game, they would choose to make 1 more dollar. They don’t care about any one person or small group of people. They just care about the money.
So what if they make all the people who play the game competitively upset with an awful format, banlist, or product. Even if snake eye is tier 0 for 8 more years in a row, it wouldn’t stop everyone from buying whatever stupid DM era crap they sell. I don’t think people understand how small of a percentage the semi competitive and competitive players really are in terms of sales.
In summary, they don’t really care about anything but a couple more bucks. Everyone makes angry reddit posts and upset tweets, but they’re still gonna fill konami’s pockets along with the incalculable number of people who will buy anything DM era related.
yugioh is a vehicle of profit for konami, nothing more & nothing less.
This hurt me reading it but totally agree
You know Konami as a Company has been around since a while and their business practices isn’t new lol better check some Pachinko
Why doesn't Konami use the same practices in Japan then? I'll tell you why, it's the fault of the consumer. Konami uses the business strategy that works for the target audience. In other words, in the West we take a lot more BS as consumers. And so naturally they try to milk us. I guess Japanese don't tolerate that shit.
I’ve heard it’s because Japan has lots more competition in terms of other card games. In the west it seems like konami just thinks, and rightfully so to some degree, that they were one of the only games in town. like it or leave it kind of thing, ya know? I guess over in Japan there is just a hyper competitive game market or something.
In Japan there's a dozen or so card games active at any given time and any of them can pull away valuable customers from buying packs and such. The scene there is quite ferocious last I checked. In NA, it's Pokemon at the top and then YuGiOh versus Magic: the Gathering fighting for distant second, and then niche TCGs like Flesh and Blood or Force Of Will holding onto what players they currently have. So Konami NA effectively has no competition for the kind of TCG that it is.
It's kind of tragic, but that's probably how it's going to look for the foreseeable future.
One Piece and Lorcana are changing that. Both are hardly niche, and One Piece specifically has done so well, it's actually breaking records in the TCG space.
"Were" is the operative word here though. This is no longer the case. It always had competition from Magic, but lately Pokémon has been doing really well. Especially in terms of affordability. One Piece and Lorcana are also great games, both cheaper on average than YGO. Then there are loads of lesser played TCGs where you could argue that all of those players together probably equal at least 1 bigger TCG.
The thing is again, YGO players take the shit Konami does. I haven't played paper YGO (Modern) in years. I only play Goat and Edison offline. I have sunk a lot of money into Master Duel, admittedly. But at least that pricing is consistent. Everything is either UR or SR so there's no surprises. No secondary market either.
Anyways, even though there is loads of competition, no one is leaving YGO en masse because of prize support, shitty new player experience, USD100-200 per copy for staples, or insanely priced casual deck cards. People take breaks and leave every now and then but they always keep coming back and keep spending money. I just have this feeling, not backed by any evidence, that Japanese players don't take this kind of crap as consumers and that because of that Konami does the whole multiple rarities of each card per set thing.
The reason one piece is doing well is because of the special prize cards for events and constant event support.
I don’t think it’s even that. I think they keep the TCG operating budget so low that they just don’t care. There is a reason Worlds in the US has no spectators
I’ve heard that it has to do with the gambling laws in Japan. Gambling is illegal in Japan, so they make cards available at multiple rarities to ensure that a player buying a box will get at least one copy of a specific card. More info about rarity disparity in the TCG vs. OCG here If they didn’t they couldn’t legally sell the packs. No such laws exist in America, so they can just do whatever they want with the TCG and make as much money as possible
Those laws will soon exist in Europe though.
That's an interesting theory I've never heard of before.
I would believe it.
I wonder if there is any way to prove that is the case or not.
This is true, but I feel poor management is an issue too.
The TCG could absolutely be doing better, even from a profit point of view. It's doing well, but Yugioh is a popular game. It has a lot of potential. Currently they're just not trying. Events have poor prize support, they're boring to watch, the game isn't marketed as well, shops aren't finding it worthwhile stocking packs, they're sleeping on casual formats, there's a lot they could do to make a lot of cash and significantly increase the playerbase. MTG is making ridiculous amounts from Commander. Also Rc1 was a massive success and is a goldmine they're failing to capitalize on.
At the end of the day, large companies are run by human beings and human beings have their flaws. Konami TCG is certainly greedy, but it also feels lazy. There's a feeling of complacency. They have a successful game that's printing money and they're happy to just sit on that, even if they could make double or more with enough effort. It's "safe". There's no ambition.
If they could make 1 more dollar per year from yugioh, but all the NA players would hate it, or they could make 1 dollar less per year and everyone loves their game, they would choose to make 1 more dollar. They don’t care about any one person or small group of people. They just care about the money.
I don't think this is entirely true; you can make a pretty good argument that TCG is just mismanaged. Cardboard is cheap to make. New cards probably need R&D and art as additional costs, but a lot of that drops for reprints. Adding literally anything else of value, apart from Zeus, to the 2 player starter box would have made it sell more boxes for no cost. Making them more coherent strategies would cost them a few hours of an intern's time and probably sold better as well. Tactical Try Boxes are basically all reprints that they can sell and use to get new players into the game. They dropped the ball on price gouging us out of Tenpai. They could have reprinted cards like Dragion, 1st movement solo, etc much earlier. They can release cards off the banlist, Like Electrumite or Protos, and then sell them in newer sets. There are so many things they could do to just make more money with minimal added costs in most of these cases (I imagine the Tactical Try Decks would be some initial cost) AND provide a better experience for players, but they just don't do it.
You’re not really correct about the point about competitive players. YGO here is directed almost exclusively at competitive players. That’s why we don’t get low rarity staples; the competitive players will buy them no matter the price. We also get actually very few products that are directed at casual collectors that aren’t cheap garbage like the Legendary Duelists junk
Ya.. so knowing this.. it makes sense you should invest all your extra money in Konami stock and not konami product.. right? I mean if you know how konami operates and you know their business is successful then might as well invest in that
The OCG card quality is also way better. I'd recommed getting collection cards in japanese
I wanted to make a fun deck that summon it with some weird dogmatika shenanigans, but not in this century
At this point I’m learning Japanese and starting a new life in Japan.
Yes but than you have to live with the big C.
I would rather play against a deck with 5 Maxx "C" than deal with how trash TCG is currently.
Playing without Maxx C Is more important than playing with both kidneys.
Or you could just buy Asia English and play locally.
Even with Asian English cards aren’t you not allowed to use them in the US and such regions?
Correct, they are not legal to use in the TCG.
Ohayo konichiwa
Yes idk why do you even doubt their greediness in the first place
And yet we in TCG STILL keep buying products en masse and give money to komoney!
"Feelings? What's that? And how much can we charge for it?" - Konami, probably
It's because all of your favorite content creators would rather partner with Konami than calling them out for this kind of scummy behavior, meaning we have no big voices to rally the community. Konami will find new ways to screw us over, and we will take it.
Cimo actually lost his Konami partnership because he insisted on buying singles and never sealed products.
Was it from here?
That's certainly a part of it and was looking for a comment like this.
All it takes is something like a free booster box or two every couple months and you won't hear a peep criticizing Konami or any of their practices from a lot of names in yugitubing. And those who have been critical of Konami probably won't be doing a sponsored box opening video any time soon.
Although watching Farfa and Joshua Schmidt bend over backwards defending certain sets is hilarious
Farfa and Joshua at least already shown multiple times borrowing cards for tournaments and encourages people to do that.
Meanwhile across the Atlantic Ocean, the content is full of QCR/high rarity card videos.
Yeah, it’s not because we keep buying from them despite this scammy behavior, it’s a content creator problem
The TCG doesn't want average players
The TCG doesn't want casual players.
Notice how the TCG is hyperfocused on the competitive market?
Until DM money is involved.
Let's be real: Tenpai would have been high rarity if it didn't come in a set with a new archetype around Yugi (with Gandora and Silent Magician too).
But even then, the nostalgia bait products are almost always cheap junk
Do you consider Yubel nostalgia bait?
Not close to the level of Dark Magician/Blue-Eyes/etc
Yup. All in or out the door.
TCG doenst want poor players*
fixed it for you.
Potato tomato
The collector market is anything but poor
Not just the collector market expensive.
The TCG doesn't want players
It’s also the issue that most of the TCG player base actually likes and/or accept the way things work with rarities and whatnot.
Like you will unironically see A LOT of people say that keeping Magia Master a QCR only is “based” and “That’s how it should be, to punish the casuals”.
Like when it was first revealed, half the subreddit agreed that it was a good thing this was a QCR only.
I was told in another post that it was good because no meta staples will be printed qcr, and cards should eat the bullet so meta staples to be affordable.
meanwhile the meta staple with a single print in Secret price : 110 euro.
People who says that are clowns who actually spends thousands of euros on the game and want a reassuring that they spent well.
That’s just blatantly cope lol meta staples are still expensive. A playset of Bonfire is still almost $100, and S:P is still over $100 for one copy.
Too bad I can't read moon runes
Just wait for the card to come to AE. It’s probably more expensive than the OCG but still way better than fold to the TCG’s absurd mess
Shame you can't use AE cards in the TCG
Ya but for collecting purposes AE is just a superior option to TCG in every way, minus that they don’t have all of OCG’s product line
Hey as long as you sleeve it and dont use em at regionals, I doubt anyone would care
Konami is just milking us if it wasn't obvious
May be a hot take, but I’d let my opponent open maxx c every time just to have OCG rarity distributions
Kevin Tewart: "just buy 15 boxes"
TCG only cares about M O N E
Vote with your wallets and don't buy it.
because they love money, thats why
In the ocg there is competition so they have to make it affordable in the tcg there is only really magic who is as bad so they can get away with it. It just makes them more money to do this.
The last thing that konami cares about is the TCG Players.
Whether it be meta defining cards being low rarity in the ocg and short print secrets here (Ex: Ash blossom)
having the worst prize support at events than any popular game out right now
they will gladly make sure you don't easily get meta defining cards till years later and when they do they power creep them immediately (Ex:: S:P Littlenight being way stronger than previous Links)
a meta deck can cost upwards of 700 dollars where the best possible thing you can win at an event is a prize cards and a switch and what maybe a mat/sleeves/deck box and thats after you play 6 decks with 15 handtraps (depending on meta) and a top cut
and the icing on the cake is you can spend a 1000 dollars on the best deck just for them without any notice ban it and that includes the fact that they also give us megatins every year with good new cards and they just ban them (EX: them killing off zoodiac after relaseing the cards in the megatins)
This keeps happening and will keep happening because the playerbase won't stop supporting the game. If the playerbase stopped supporting this game, we would have a better rarity model ages ago. The problem is that players would rather pay ridiculous prices for their decks than move to a different card game (at least until things get better).
From what I've seen, in Japan, if a card game does something the playerbase doesn't like, it gets dropped for a different competitor. Konami has no choice there. Here, they can do whatever they want. The players outside Japan have proven to not care about the health of the game enough to let it lose players and sales. Might be sunk cost fallacy, who knows.
Exactly why I switched over to the OCG
The OCG is a real trading card game and the TCG is a whaling scheme
Stop buying product if you hate it so much! If players & collectors would stop being so addicted & money hungry then Konami would be forced to change the system. I for one have been done with buying for a while. It's singles or nothing for me until this gets fixed.
How you're gonna buy singles without someone else buying the product to get them? Would be more go proxy or nothing instead.
If the singles get more expensive from that then I shrug and say "oh well, guess I'm not playing Yugioh". It's just that simple. Speak with your wallet and companies listen.
We need to stop buying product it’s as simple as that. There has to be a change. The only way is a boycott.
Ya should lookup the Tactical Trial decks then, that's an even bigger insult to the average TCG Player
Speak with your money, not with your words. Konami America is greedy AF.
Relentless revenge was so dogshit. I bought a box and had 5 pairs of duplicate secrets. My buddy and 3 pairs. Remember when they had 1 of each for EU boxes for the very first battle of legends?
Probably didn't make them enough money. Not suprised they dropped Light's Revenges structure so fast.
Maybe sth many here dont know: these ocg bixes come with 6 new cards and you are guaranteed ro get all 6 within a box (ultra or secret)
What if we all just stop playing for a lil while to scare them into not fuckin with us anymore
Well, we’re could play, but not buy any products 🤷🏻♂️ make everything flop
Konami, like most pop culture companies from Japan, doesnt care for the west. Or for anything outside japan.
Konami never cares about anything but profit, they're a business.
When I went to Japan, I was shocked at how cheap yugioh cards were there. TCG is bullshit.
OCG has safe guards to guarantee a level of certainty to get when you get a box. The TCG has no such safeties.
We are the ones who Konami wants to line their pockets.
Always has been.
"b-but why people won't buy sealed products🥺"
Wait, Dragon Magia Master is only a QCSR? That's fucked, what's the single going for?
Around 500+ right now in presale
Honestly considering the pull rates for this card in particular it seems quite low at $500, not saying I support only QCR printing.
No, they don’t care about feelings. The threshold they care is when you buy. It’s a company trying to make money, it’s a soulless, uncaring entity, as it should be. Now the real question how do we make it change/listen? I see one of two ways. Either one stop buy and playing there game (no mo money, it’s main driving factor). Or two legislate by law into compliance of what you want (I believe that why Japan has cards in multiple rarities, something about opening card packs is gambling and that’s bad, I could be wrong.) But this a way harder process, I just stoped playing, there are other newer trading card games that treat me better, with art, cadence, and price.
Kinda agree with this. This is why I switched to Pokémon TCG. Also, I switched because ppl like to have fun in this game. In YGO, it's play whatever deck is top 2 or 3 (which probably costs upwards of $400+), have 12 hand traps in the deck, multiple omni-negates that are easy to summon, or nothing. U may as well not bother playing seriously if ur not running anything I mentioned there. I could make a top / meta deck in Pokémon for way cheaper ($100 - $125 INCLUDING boxes and sleeves), they have full-art cards that look amazing (which is a common complaint I have with YGO), and even if u want to just run a "fun" deck, u could and still can win some games. Of course, every game has those top decks that are damn near unbeatable, but in Pokémon, u see that way less (if at all). The only thing I dislike about pokémon is when it's anyone's turn, there's no opportunity to disrupt or counter-play. At the same time, this may be why I enjoy the game more.
OCG just treats it's players better, why the TCG manages to spit in our face every set release and gets away with it is the real mystery.
It keeps happening because TCG players don't or can't agree to stop playing and demand better treatment.
It's the ONLY way we're gonna get Konami TCG to listen.
I suspect they shut down the TCG before moving to set parity (not in terms of release dates, but in terms of rarity spread and the actual sets themselves)
Probably. Konami is pretty slow at making changes.
Don't get it twisted. OCG would happily gouge prices the same as TCG if they were given the chance.
This is still Konami after all
No Konami doesn’t care about their playerbase’s feelings. They want money
If all of you are so unhappy with how the TCG handles your game, why don't you just stop? Seriously, just quit! This game and the company that owns it are just shit... move on.
Sunk cost fallacy + most of the people on this sub don’t wanna play other card games
No, they do not
No it doesn't
What's the difference between OCG and TCG?
TCG is most western countries, ocg is most east Asian countries plus south east Asia.
It’s so dumb that it’s the cover card too
Not just that, the TCG isn’t giving us Duelists of Brilliance! GIVE ME GODDAMN TACHYON/GALAXY SUPPORT YOU ASSHOLES!
Don't get your hopes up, the important cards will be short printed anyways
They know countries from the TCG regions have a lot of capital to blow on cardboard, and our currencies often trade at a premium to the Yen. It's predatory af but often how business is done these days.
i just want a dragon to look at it cause its pretty... its that too MUCH FUCKING TO ASK?
Of course a faceless company doesn't care about their lowest common denominator.
Bc Capitalism lol. KoA is all about profits
That reminds me, how are the Asian English OCG cards going on the market? Can someone just use those in tournament and hope not to get caught?
The cardstock and quality of OCG and TCG cards are different enough but there are other ways to identify an English and Asian English card. The back is the OCG back, so sleeve works until your opponent tells a judge to look at the card, each card has a card Identifier that also denotes what language it came from (EN = English, JP = Japanese, Asian English = AE), and all art (at least the new ones iirc) is the uncensored Japanese art (yes...your opponent could be horny and notice your DMG card's boobs are too big and have a judge check your card. 😑)
So it works in a casual setting, but in sanction events, it's pretty easy to point out before a match (remember judges can do deck checks) and during a match (the opp are allowed to look at your cards if they are public knowledge).
I guess that works yeah, some people have already been doing it.
It's much easier to get away with it for Extra Deck monsters that share the same rarity with thier TCG counterpart
I wouldn't try it, especially if you go on stream at a large event. The eagle eyed viewer will be able to spot immediately.
Hold up they're different from the front as well?
Rarities.
So it's a matter of getting cards whose rarity matches AE-OCG and TCG and nobody will notice, right?
Kinda new to YU-Gi-oh can someone explain the difference between tcg and ocg
I opened up two boxes, no QCRs in either box. Opening up boxes isn’t the best way I know but it’s still fun but would be much better if you were able to pull cards at multiple rarities would be much better for all players or allow AE versions of cards in tournaments
Konami knows tcg is a small percentage of players compared to ocg, they don't want to get new players, they just want the highest profit of current playerbase, no wonder why no one wants to play
No just their wallets.
Yeah, it could change, and it’s currently more poised to than ever before with the introduction of a new competitor in Disney of all companies, but nothing will change in the foreseeable future because it’s surviving on the backs of whales in the form of competitive players. People like Jesse Kotton, Joshua Schmidt, etc., who support the TCG regardless and even rewards the TCG with their money, are the ones who are keeping this game the way it is.
OCG is where Konami makes all their money and TCG is probably ran with minimal effort/budget solely because there is no reason not to
It’s simple. It’s because it’s tolerated. If no one bought the products, they’d make better products. They don’t have to in the tcg, because over a decade of market activity has shown, enough people will spend over $1000 on a deck that will be phased out between 3 months to a year. If you want better stuff demand it. Mtg it’s the same way, why fix card curling, make better foils, alt arts and rarity when the stuff sells anyways?
In the OCG you can buy the Deckbuild packs -> 1 box gives you enough for all 3 decks in the packs, though you might need to trade or something for higher rarities or missing 3-ofs -> People love Deck Build Packs
In the TCG, 1 box gets you 2 ultras out of the 9-12 you need to run per archetype -> Nobody buys them -> Stores rot with old DBPs
Most OCG stores in my area are flooding with deck build packs.
Are you going to buy the product still? If so then Konomi got what it wants out of you, someone who will give them money for their product and continuing to buy lots of volume of it in hopes of getting these super rare cards is why they do it. The solution is to not buy cards you know are overpriced or unnecessarily rare. If you want to buy physical product, then don't go for the volume/packs that have these. Konami doesn't care about your feelings as long as they make a profit.
Nope, konami west sucks...
This has happened for years and I don’t think it will ever change. I will still never forgive TCG for up shifting DAD from rare to secret all those years ago. It’s one of the many things that pushed me away from YGO in the first place to try other card games.
Dude they have never care, going back into the simpler rarities in TCG, and the big FU that were all the starter and structure decks(check the monarch OCG vs the dark monarch TCG deck list), and the shit on top of that that 2 whole decks were diluted into SERCRET RARES in 2 booster boxes, and everything sprinkle with all the meta relevant cards that got a rarity spike in the TCG, and thats not even going into the Zexal era
Forget feelings. Try wallet. Konami knows it can wedge out more money from TCG players' wallets, while OCG players can actually afford to play the game using varying rarities cuz otherwise, product wouldn't sell.
no the tcg doesnt care. Remember when those sweet duel disks came out in japan? There is a market for it here but Konami failed to capitalize on it
Whats ocg?
We keep joking that the people who run the ycg hVe a secret ebay store
It is the Anime Tax a card that is good for okder de KS gets short priented, so you have yo buy cases not boxes to get it
Konami makes a lot of money , secondary market makes a lot of money and the average fans get closer to quitting or going to proxies
At this point it is a endless cycle
While I’ll always be fond of Yu-Gi-Oh to some extent, stuff like this is why I don’t miss actually playing the physical card game.
Of course not. We keep buying, so why would they care to change?
If ppl buy it and shill it, they dont need to try.
Exactly, tcg doesn't care, that's why the rarity collection was so good, because it was just a regular ocg set.
Konami just wants to milk Yu-Gi-Oh! players dry of cash... No wonder I haven't pick up my deck in a while
ocg cares about players, tcg only cares money.
OCG care about players.
TCG only cares about one thing. Money.
Gambling laws in japan are different from all TCG countries
If Maxx c was banned in OCG I would literally learn to read Japanese and become an OCG player they have it so good over there besides Maxx c being legal.
It's a hard trade off but still
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Even OCG's nostalgia pandering product is multiple levels ahead of the TCG. Prismatic God Box for example.