www.ky3.com/2024/07/02/lake-ozarks-server-pulled-into-water-after-dine-dash/
Dine and dashers throw persueing waitress in water
How about not chase somebody down?
I'm betting it's one of those shit places where they take the bill outta the employees tips
You are actually correct. No business wants its employees to try to prevent theft, I’ve always been told that. I’ve never worked anywhere as a server where I’d give any thought at all to chasing someone down.
My buddy said they would take it out of his pay if they didn’t pay. Eventually it happened to him and he quit.
How 'bout NO!
Micheal Scott would like to have a word
Why? Did the waitress kill some fish in the koi pond?
This “journalism” is trashy too.
The title of the news article says she was “pulled” into the water. The first sentence out of the news anchors mouth is she was “pushed” into the water, and OP states she was “thrown” into the water.
She said she was grabbed by her wrist and pulled into the water in the video. Why is the exact term so important?
Because it's an important step stool for this guy to get on his high horse of pedantry.
High Horse of Pedantry...dunno if thats my next band or my new mock heraldic title.
oh, okay. Gonna walk in here with your fancy mock heraldic business. Pssh. Think you're better than me?!?
Coerced into the water.
Encouraged into the water.
Cajoled into the water.
Persuaded into the water
How do we know the water wasn't the one persuaded into her
The real entertainment begins when her buddies the band of coked up cooks runs across these people in a nearby club at 4am
Damn right. Don't mess with back of the house.
The boss saying to make sure to bring an extra person when you chase someone… The liability is mind blowing
Its giving a “server has to pay the $150 for the dine and dash” vibe
They said there was a long wait time, and they left without their food. I'd like to know how long this wait time was.
Guests always feel like “its been 30 minutes!” When its only been 7. I know.. my POS tells me when I rang in your order.
Right?! And also how he said “that way we can also know what really happened.” Like he doesn’t believe what the waitress said happened!
How about the new rule being only he is allowed to chase dashers down to the docks so his staff can remain perfectly safe in the restaurant?
The type of boss that'd probably make the waitress pay the skipped tab out of her tips.
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It was in Missouri bro.
"Oh no mah narrative!"
What a bunch of shit heads! Seems like they did this before. People like that you can never trust with your life and are evil!
I'm not sure if she should have brought Wendy, Rose, or Darlene. Bah, who am I trying to kid? Darlene. By a mile.
This is why you let people rob the company you work for.
They’re insured. Not worth the effort.
They aren’t insured against dine and dash.
There is a good chance that will come out of the waitress’s pay.
What planet are you from?
That’s not legal. I’ve never waited tables where that was a thing.
The owner likely illegally docks their wages.
I worked at more than one restaurant back in the day that had the waiter pay for the tab. You keep all credit receipts till end of shift, you get cashed up, and whatever you're short is your responsibility to pay
That’s super illegal. My manager did that once and when our GM found out he went ape shit
IDK about the US, but lots of places make the wait staff pay for dashers.
It's illegal in the US to make staff pay for stuff like that but that doesn't mean that it isn't still happening at some restaurants.
Ya but your tip has fucked right off.
Chasing after them isn’t going to fix that.
If you think small, local restaurants are immune to theft then you are horribly misinformed. Even if she's working for a mega chain like walmart, I don't think anyone should be criticized for standing up and doing the right thing just for the sake of it. It might not be worth the effort to you and that's fine, but I applaud her for her courage and moral convictions.
No one criticizes them, just worries about their safety. Just imagine if she hit her head going into the water, that could easily been a death. These things happen and everyone just wants them to take precaution because their life is of greater value than any amount of money.
What if she was unable to swim? I hope justice is served on this.
Are you doing a bit? What happened to this waitress is horrible and shouldn't happen to anyone and she certainly was going above and beyond the call of duty to stop these people, but an employee has no responsibility to protect their employer. Full stop.
What about their own tip? Company ain't giving her that.
And what? When she chases them down they are going to tip her?
Doubt it, but I can understand why that would piss somebody off. You make it sound like only the employer loses money, that's not so.
At a certain point people get sick of being walked on like a door mat. The logic might not be there but the emotional capacity can only take so much. Idk her situation but she might be living paycheck to paycheck supporting herself and others.
This was my point.
You're getting downvoted but you're 100% right. The manager in the video didn't even condemn what happened, just said next time she needs to tell someone before chasing them down, basically so they can know to fish her out the water next time. It's insanity that anyone believes that this kind of behaviour and lack of care for employees should be tolerated, even encouraged.
Do not run after thieves, do not risk your life for an employer who won't even pay you minimum wage and expects you to live off tips.
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They aren't obligated to tip her. They could have literally turned around, paid for the food and not left her a penny in tips and it would have been legal.
"The law permits what honour forbids" -- Celeste Chalfonte, Six of One
In some places, the staff has to out of pocket the cost of the meal, do they are quite literally stealing from them.
Yeah that's illegal.
It's been over 20 years since I waited, but that was the norm at most places back then.
There is no such thing as dine-n-dash insurance.
"Hello, GEICO Dine-n-Dash? Hi, yes. We just had some trashy hillbillies skip out on a $150 meal. I'd like to file a claim. Oh. Deductible is $7500? OK. Thanks anyway. Good day."
People on Reddit have an absolutely ludicrous idea of what insurance can do for businesses. They seem to think that every $100 theft gets reimbursed by insurance. Nobody would sell insurance for that kind of thing, it would be impossible to make money.
It wasn’t her money, not worth chasing
It comes outta her check.
It doesn’t and doing so is unlawful.
I don’t know if you noticed, but lots of businesses do things that violate the law. Doesn’t keep it from happening.
You should hope they do it. If they do, call a local employment lawyer because you have a great labor law suit against your employer.
Read the other comments in this thread.
Just because something is technically illegal doesn’t mean there is any way to effectively enforce it.
Attorneys aren’t usually out to lose money on cases, and most restaurants don’t have deep pockets.
I work directly with 100s of restaurants and a lot of them do this, unfortunately. Owner says they gotta pay so they do because it's better than being fired.
Shit, maybe we should get a law to stop people from killing each other
Yeah, we should probably have a law for people speeding too. Then nobody would do it.
It definitely doesn't lol.
In the US, that's illegal. If your boss pulls that shit, report them and get your money back.
And then that person gets fired. It is the way of the world.
Says who?
The Fish is for tourists, it’s slammed every weekend. Those folks didn’t rent that boat, they have a house on the lake which means they are well aware of how the water bars function. When you hit a water bar on the weekend it’s going to take forever. Any of the water bars, it’s organized chaos. There is no excuse for pushing that girl in the lake.
Pursuing
Perusing
I figured she was watching lol
The Ozarks? Must have been that Marty Byrde fella.
Hatfields still feuding with the McCoys!
That's 600 some miles away.
According to the story, only one patron was not served drinks...because she didn't have an ID. Which means the rest were served drinks...possibly alcohol. And if they didn't pay, they're still committing a crime
One patron was not served drinks. The story doesn't say if anyone was served drinks. It also doesn't say if those drinks were paid for or not. It only mentions the food
The sheriff’s office Facebook post says that they left without paying their “bar” tab. They were served drinks, just not the person without ID.
A "bar" tab can include food. The only mention of drinks was the one they didn't get
So, they ordered food and waited for a half hour. The food never came so they left.
Then the waitress went running after them to try and make them wait some more while their food could maybe get finally prepared and put in boxes, which they declined.
Then some other stuff happened that could have involved one or both sides getting belligerent, that the camera didn't catch, but somehow ended up with the waitress in the water.
Cool story
Edit: Jesus Christ, they didn't wait for their food for a half hour, it was a fucking hour and a half, as noted by aSchizophrenicCat. The waitress's self-righteous indignation almost seems unjustified!
Exactly, she’s chasing them down harassing them after they are fed up with the bs and decide to go. She deserved the dunk
Holy shit you’re a moron.
Regardless of the food situation, they still should have paid for their drinks.
Absolutely. Did they get drinks?
That's the thing. It doesn't say if anyone else got drinks. It says one person tried to order a drink and was denied, so they all sat there angry about it for 30 minutes. Then they ordered food. Waited 90 minutes and walked out. Didn't want it packed up. It reads like they weren't served anything, so I don't see what the problem is. I've walked out twice in my life because I didn't want to wait for what were ridiculous serving times, and that's with some sort of beverage having been ordered. No one came after me. But then again in these scenarios no one ever came back to my table after taking my order then sitting there for an hour not getting any attention.
The article is suspiciously vague on the details. The video clarifies nothing. And her story doesn't sound right. In this article she says "I was stuck in the water for approximately 10 minutes"
She was pushed/pulled into the water right next to the dock and then she stayed in the water for a full ten minutes? Either you climb out of the water after thirty seconds or you drown
And then the owner, instead of telling their staff not to chase after people, says it's ok as long as you say you're going to or take someone with you? I swear this is more like an Onion article than real news.
They got there at 8:30, and ordered food 30 minutes later - the wait time for the food was an hour and a half… I’d be pissed if I ordered at 9pm and had to wait till 1030pm to get the food. Granted, I wouldn’t just bail on the bill entirely... People talking about how it was poor management to let this employee run out there, but goddamn I gotta imagine management is nonexistent if it takes an 1hr 30min to get the food plated and expedited to table.
I can tell lots of people ITT have never worked service industry jobs before.
They didn’t pay for their drinks either. If you order food and it takes longer than expected but it’s still prepared and boxed up for you, you should still pay for it. It’s common sense and common courtesy. And wasted food at that point.
The article doesn't say whether they paid for drinks or not. In fact, the only mention of drinks was about the one that they didn't get. All we know from the article is that they didn't pay for the food that they also didn't get
The statement from the Sheriff’s office literally says, “After a group she was serving left Fish & CO restaurant without paying their bar tab”
The statement from the Sheriff’s office literally says, “After a group she was serving left Fish & CO restaurant without paying their bar tab”
Source? That's not in the article. Also, you know that some places can put food on your bar tab, right?
Yes it is. It’s right there. https://imgur.com/gallery/3ZAIOHm
Right where? I'm getting a 404
I give up. It’s on the same page as the article. It links to their Facebook (I don’t even have an fb and I can read it) but I can also read the quote on the link op posted 🤷🏻♀️
Cool, if you say so. A "bar" tab can include drinks and food, depending on where you are
Was the food on their bar tab? Or just the drinks? Or both?
Nah. The drinks is on them but the food isn’t
What? They still didn’t pay. Are you dense?
I was saying they should’ve paid for the drinks. But if the server chases them with their food when they’ve given up on it after waiting for so long they shouldn’t have to pay for the food. Just the drinks
“We’ve kind of got it now to where if you’re going to chase somebody down, let somebody know you’re going down there, take somebody with you,”
How about a policy of don’t chase down customers, for your own safety. Yeah, dine and dash is shitty but don’t have a waitress chase down a group.
Why was the waitress wearing earbuds? Were they her personal buds or the restaurants? If personal, why was she wearing them on shift? How long had this group been waiting for their food? Is it restaurant policy that waitstaff is financially responsible for a group leaving after they order? How frequently do people get annoyed and leave without their order that a policy needed to be made?
Throwing her in the water was massively shitty but the reporter is terrible for not asking meaningful questions that doesn’t bias the article.
I doubt she was wearing the earbuds; they were probably in her pocket.
Why do management let young girls go chasing after patrons to recoup money? Comping that meal isn’t gonna bankrupt the restaurant, but chasing after aggravated diners is potentially dangerous. And why didn’t she tell them the food was an hour & 1/2 wait? I wouldn’t even be hungry anymore after that. I hope some kinda lesson was learned, but I watched without volume. Probs not.
Sounds like the service sucked and was super slow so they left. That's not dine and dash it sounds like a bad server who wasn't communicative
Yeah, do you think she wanted exposure after this incident , so she can have people feel sorry for her and have a go fund me page
If they got drinks and didn't pay that's dnd
If
They didn't dine. They owed nothing if they received no food. They might be assholes for shoving her in the water, but they didn't dine and dash.
They didn't pay for their alcohol
They ordered drinks and didn’t pay. That’s still a form of dining and dashing.
Where explicitly does it say they ordered drinks and didn’t pay? Find it
Jesus you people are dense. Lmao
It’s in the sheriff’s office’s statement which is on the same page
You know what? I’m arguing with you over a very poorly written article that’s a direct result of lazy ass reporting. What they’re saying in the article can and will be interpreted differently because they answered 0 relevant questions. I don’t know what the hell the truth is and I’m inclined now to believe they all suck.
Fair. I can agree with you here. The worst part is the poor girl ending up in that disgusting water.
Actually they’re just using the colloquial term for restaurant tab. Neither the waitress, the manager, the restaurant, nor the news station say anything about drinks. The police said “bar tab” colloquially and you are feigning obtuseness. Read it again for comprehension.
Didn’t you watch the story? It said the waitress told the group that she would put the food in a to-go bag for them. Hence, the food was at least delivered to the table for them.
Hence, the food was at least delivered to the table for them.
We have no way of knowing. Maybe they would have had to wait for another half hour while the kitchen staff put the food in boxes. This point is as unclear as the reason the waitress ended up in the water. Maybe she got agressive. Maybe everyone did. We only have the waitress's story and an inconclusive video. Hard to say who is being trashy here
What part of they-didn’t-dine was unclear? They could deliver the food right to the boat and it wouldn’t make a difference. They refused it
Maybe in your shithole part of the country dine and dash is ok, but it’s a stupid thing to do. And then to pull the girl in the water after that - super trashy. They should get arrested for trying to drown her.
Last I checked you have to dine to dash. lol And it’s not even on video. But sure. Go back to inspecting rugs in your elite part of the country.
Nobody ate any of the food, dude. You keep repeating an irrelevant argument. They ordered and left, which is not dining and dashing.
They did not pay for their drinks
According to the article, one drink was ordered and it was not served as the customer failed to provide ID.
Why the downvote?
The Camden Co. MO Sheriff’s Office issued a press release stating that “...a group she was serving left the Fish & CO Restaurant in Camdenton without paying their bar tab”
A bar tab also includes the food that's ordered, which the restaurant clearly feels like they should've paid for despite the food never being served to the customers. It's inconclusive whether the group actually had any drinks, the only thing we do know is someone was denied a drink for not having her ID on her and that the group ordered food and left before ever getting that food, which is completely fine after a 90 minute wait.
You can parse the bar tab all you want. But the fact remains that these patrons pushed an employee into a body of water at night and, if caught, face misdemeanor assault charges
When unhappy with food service, customers traditionally speak with management as the most logical step to finding a solution. Servers do not control kitchen ticket times
Getting physical with a young woman is not it. I don’t give a fuck about your Grilled Walleye and White Cheddar Cheese Balls
If they had alcoholic drinks and did not pay then that is still DND.
THEY DIDN’T. The article & police post included every detail BUT that. They even said one girl tried to order an alcoholic beverage, was refused bc she had no ID, they complained but subsequently ordered food 30 mins later. No where does it state they ordered a slew of drinks. It would be important for both the police and restaurant to mention that detail as it def WOULD constitute as theft. And they are only upset about the cost of the food. One can only glean since no drink cost is mentioned whatsoever, it isn’t relevant. Which means they don’t owe money for drinks. They mostly likely all got waters and the restaurant is only demanding reimbursement for what was ordered. My god.
To bad it wasnt actually caught on video...
Also are they actually dine and dashers if they didn't get their food?
Sheriffs report states they didn’t pay for drinks. Reading is hard for some people, I get it.
Right? Waitress could be full of shit just pissed off at rude customers.
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