techcrunch.com/2024/05/17/csc-serviceworks-free-laundry-million-machines/
Two students uncover security bug that could let millions do their laundry for free
SecurityI was in the airport 3 months ago and found one of those booths for breastfeeding in private. Ideally, a nursing mother would create an account and use an app to open the door, but there’s also a keypad for maintenance and override. The combination is both obvious and funny. 8008
Charging for breast feeding space is dystopian as hell.
Next up, the suicide booth.
It’s kinda wholesome not gonna lie. I wish this painless way to go was available to more people atleast ones with terminal illness
Halloween discount
I'd gladly pay for that, under the right circumstances. I imagine they'd insist on cash up front.
User deleted comment
15d
That sub is fucking weird. I don't want kids, but they take it to an extreme.
lol.. yes. The message is on point, but they seem annoyed at anyone who has been born.
Automatically adds the cost of use to the closest relative’s debt sheet.
I haven't looked into it but it MIGHT be free, but just requires registering?
This is exactly right. You download the app and sign up for free to unlock the pod. I would think it’s just to let other mothers know it’s in use. It’s a really cool thing actually and my wife has always enjoyed using them when necessary
You realize the company is just selling your data though, it’s not free you pay with your privacy.
Probably no where near enough revenue to actually fund the pod. Guarantee they mostly or completely make money selling these things to airports for a set price
Right… dystopian.
Is there a problem selling a product to a facility for a sum of money?
I'm just going to chip in with the unnecessary If it's free You are the product
You can just call them and tell them you don’t have a smart phone and they tell you the code. They are just making sure you have a child they don’t sell your data.
Every space is a breastfeeding place if you're not bashful.
Security is a bunch of prudes. She's my wife and airport drinks are overpriced.
I’ve never seen it costing, they just put locks to keep random people out so it’s available for moms. We used them frequently when flying with our infant, just had to ask someone for the code.
It’s probably to keep homeless individuals from sleeping in them, or random creeps
they are free,the app controls access
The even more fucked up part is why does a breastfeeding booth need an app? It’s a booth you feed your kid in. Not a safe.
So it's not open to everyone for everything all the time
A regular lock would probably be more easy and less of a data breach risk.
Any idea of who uses family restrooms the most? Not families. Every time I've been stuck with my toddlers waiting for the family restroom it's one young single guy who didn't want to take a shit in the men's room, so they tied up and funked up the whole family restroom instead.
So yeah, I don't trust non-breastfeeding/pumping people to not take over a private space for their own reasons, leaving someone who needs that space not having access.
Where did she say she had to pay for it? Did I miss that?
I legitimately assumed they were free and was impressed by how accommodating it was. Now I’m disappointed.
Don't really see any difference between that and charging for a toilet, which is quite common in many places.
Welcome to transit in the U.S.
I gotta fly out for work tomorrow and I am not proud to say I don’t care if you are lying and I’m trying this.
I am a man and am compelled to do this as long as it’s empty.
Cool. I would like to know if it works everywhere. I really do think it will- at least in the States.
I fly tomorrow at like 8 AM so I’ll report back with an update
I think this is the default password. I’ve been to places that have the pods that post the code outside it so that mothers don’t have to pay and it is always 8008
Was it at the Atlanta airport?!
Poster above: this is not aimed at you. I just wanted to say it and this is as good a place as any.
I am not a mother (username checks out…) but can we start a movement for English speakers to just call it baby feeding?! It’s no perv’s business to hear and imagine what the baby is being fed with. Boob, bottle, who gives a rat, it is a mother feeding her baby and that’s all you need to know about it and everyone should leave her the hell alone wherever and however she decides to f’n feed her baby.
Thank you.
What was the sequence?
You can be our old lady now.
Oh man this was like 10 years ago. You definitely hit two buttons that were far apart (one being the start button) 5 times in a row, and then start once. I don’t remember what the second button was though.
Maybe try up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start?
Only works on Konami brand washers & dryers.
No that’s far too many buttons.
Lookup the codes and see if they’re online. You might be surprised.
Most machines have manuals online. If you can find the model number, you should be able to find a way to start it.
I lived in an apartment with a bunch of busted old washing machines, and one of them you could literally lift up the faceplate and flip the switch underneath to make it start.
We bought the key off amazon in our old apartment building. It sucked though when you pulled the lever to get the washing machine to start if you grazed the left of the lever something was there that would give you an electric shock. It wasn’t horribly strong just uncomfortable and alarming. But we were motivated to learn and became experts of avoiding the shocking part. Saved tens of dollars every month. The same key worked for both the washer and dryer so that was ideal.
In high school I found a combination of buttons on the school vending machine would return the last amount that was put in. Presumably, so staff could give someone their money back if the machine malfunctioned. It was only like $1.25, but I never had to pay and always had an easy buck if I needed it.
Angels Exist 😇
This isn't really news. Things like this exist. I found out that out by randomly pressing buttons on the laundromat at the apartment complex I stayed at for college. This was about 20 years ago.
A great way to ruin it for everyone that needs it is to post it publically on the internet where the manufacturers/landlords can see it and patch it.
Was I claiming this was news? No shit it exists. It’s just a nice story.
My friend used to toggle his bluetooth on his phone and the wash would start without charging him.
That worked for a few hours but then my account was charged later.
I racked up about 5 free uses doing this until it caught up with the app and said I owed - 4.25. So I started using my card instead
The one in my apartment building always gives me an issue when I try that trick… sigh
because any security checks are done by the app on the user’s device and are automatically trusted by CSC’s servers
That’s not so much a security bug as it is absolute design incompetence. I’m not surprised that the company hasn’t responded to this, because this sort of design is what you see from a company that does not actually employ any engineers, and instead just farms technical work out to the lowest bidder freelancer.
I read the article and I work in the mobile field. CSC is failing 101 level of security that is put basic validation and in account balance update that should never come directly from mobile and be read only.
That is some major security issues and beyond easy to fix.
In my college dorm laundry in the 80’s, I just used a wire coat hanger bent into a U and each end was shaped into the approximate size of a Quarter.
Slip each end into the two slots, push in the coin carriage, jiggle it a bit, and pull. Free laundry. Thanks, San Jose State!
Jeez, that sounded dirty…
I used the old trick of putting a dryer sheet over the slots you put the quarters in. When you push the mechanism in the quarters trigger it but don't fall through. Probably did several hundred dollars worth of laundry for free that way. Since nearly everyone in the dorm did it that way or used the wire trick, I can't imagine the university ever collected much from the coin deposit box.
"Sure are a lot of people walking around in dirty clothes! Weird!"
In college I used to slide a table knife upwards into the coin return slot, drop a quarter into the coin deposit slot and it would register the payment but the quarter would drop down into the coin return slot next to the knife.
Picked it out and put it back it through as many times as needed for full payment, then put the quarter back in my pocket and the table knife back into my bag.
You could make a killing right now with these coat hanger skills in Texas, just saying..
Lived at a place where the tops of laundry machines weren’t locked and you could just lift the cover to where the quarters fall, and you could trip the switch with your finger to activate the washer or dryer.
The "security bug" is called "a key to mom and dad's place"
Edit; tldr they tried reporting the bug thru the company's email, phone and even sent their findings to the CERT Coordination Center at Carnegie Melon. Then they waited over the normal 3 months courtesy timeframe. So fuck the co at this point. The bug was trusting the client. Meaning fiddle with the app to reflect your desired balance (they did a few million dollars) and the servers just say okay cool kid has millions in washes. Man, when online games fixed your bug 20 years ago.
The MBTA subway system in Boston Massachusetts had a similar issue. When they moved to magstripe tickets the value for the ticket was stored on the ticket and nowhere else. You could easily make a copy of the magstripe data before using it and rewrite it to reset the balance. Their fix was to move away from paper/magstripe tickets to RFID cards. The issue remains as they still only store the value on the card but it's not as easily exploited.
Steve Wozniak did that with San Francisco's Bay Area transit system (BART) back in the 1970s I think.
Honestly at that time there was no practical alternative to a stored balance card. There was not nearly enough communications connectivity to make it reasonable to hook up all the gate machines and card vending machines to a network. Also if public key cryptography existed certainly the machines updating these cards were too slow to put a digital signature on any changes ... and that still wouldn't fix replay attacks like you speak of.
Weird. I know how to use a flipper zero, but I'd have no idea how to work the mag stripes lol.
The writers for them are the same read/write/erase heads as cassette tapes. The biggest issue is getting what are now very old analog pieces of equipment to talk with modern operating systems. They're also quite sensitive to timing issues so my writer has a roller that adjusts reading and writing speed to how fast you swipe the card. I bet a flipper zero could handle it as the data is essentially an audio file being written or read from tape.
Huh TIL, I should have realized this… both the read head and the mag stripe look like their cassette tape counterparts…
It’s even more simple to think of the magstrip as a super short cassette tape.
A lot of the size of the tape storage machines are things to get the tape out of the cassette and aligned in the machine.
Magnetic tape cassette are still widely used in long term storage. Modern hard drives still can’t beat their data density /per$.
Yeah - I mean I should have realized it was because it even looks like a really short cassette tape… and the reader is a read head that doesn’t even look different
At least the story I'm aware of is that it was invented by an engineers wife who suggested taping some cassette tape to a credit card.
The tech and supply chains already existed for cassette tapes so why create a whole new thing.
in the late 90's internet, i read that you could copy a magstripe card by taking the original card, put a piece of reel-to-reel tapeon top, then a sheet of paper.
drop a warm iron on top for like 1 second, and it supposedly copied the magstripe to the reel to reel tape. (might have been audio cassete tape, i cant remember for sure(
If there's no clocking in the stripe that persists (meaning you can't use it with writing) the the best way to regenerate clocking for your card would probably be to put an optical mouse sensor on the reader/writer. Have it face the back of the card and notice the movements of the card past the sensor. If the card is too uniform for the mouse sensor to track it accurately then just scuff up your card. You're not going to mind that you have to do that. If that really kills you just put painter's tape on the card while you write it then take it back off.
It'd be cheaper than a roller in the end, but the design work would make it some trouble for a one-off.
The same way you edit a amiibo using the NFC on your phone
I remember this with early days iPhone jailbreaking, before server side verification was a thing. There were a couple of tweaks with which you could just smash in-game perks and coins and get all upgrades and whatever to play how you wanted.
Then servers came :(
There was localAppStore (or something similar) on Cydia that pretended to be the app store and verified any purchase without actually paying anything.
Only worked with IAP though.
It proved how gimmicky mobile gaming was for me though. When your whole game is just designed to be a time sponge so players can feel a glimpse of satisfaction when they unlock the next incremental upgrade in a game that allows them to progress a tiny bit further in the same cyclical levels it makes you ask yourself "Why bother?" when you can get that gratification instantly and realise the game is quite hollow.
These same mechanics apply to a lot of what people do sadly. Gamification really fucked us.
That still works to this day, tweaks to crack iAP and mem-edit values. Of course the huge apps use servers but TONS of brand new apps still have zero checks whatsoever. I’ve even seen some apps with physical rewards (Ex. Some stickers shipped to you) that were susceptible to it.
I assume it’s because 99.99% of phones aren’t jailbroken, so ultimately it doesn’t matter.
Hol'up tell me more about the stickers deal
It wasn’t a dedicated sticker app, it was one of those AI-centered app startups popping up recently that mailed stickers for early-supporters who bought the premium sub (which was susceptible to the tweak)
I didn’t get it so I forgot the name but some people in a Discord server I’m in did.
Man, when online games fixed your bug 20 years ago.
Rockstar developer sweating inside.
Yeah we hot wired the ones from our dorm and made it easy door anyone else to do the same
So putting coins in pantyhose is no longer a thing ?
They all seem to use RFID cards or apps these days.
User deleted comment
15d
lol. Showing my age here. But yes. 90s machines in our apartment complex had you place quarters in slots then push in and pull out then you can wash. I learned pantyhose would keep the coins in the slot instead of falling down into the machine. So I got free laundry during my lease.
Had a similar machine in my old apartments. We just used coffee stirrers in those slots, and they did the same thing.
I was coin op back in 2020 at an apartment. A shitty apartment, but still.
Paying for laundry at your apartment is a bit extortionist imo. Mfer I pay to live here already. One month of my rent will pay for a new washer/dryer eventually. One additional month would play for any maintenance needed. And I am one of 20,30,40+ residents etc. Yes theoretically they will need replacing more often but again the economics are still heavily in the landlords favor. I gladly spent 10-15$ for a key to open up the laundry panel and force start a cycle at my apartment. They changed to an app and changed some locks so I haven’t been able to do so for a while now
This is what happens when you build stuff on a budget. Security through obscurity is common practice with less educated developers.
This is exactly why I refuse to give my smart TV, smart Garage Door opener and any other stupid appliances that want to be "smart" a WiFi connection. I have zero trust in the shit security of the software that goes into them.
The garabe door part I am less worried about mostly because I know the guys who worked on it and their background and even back in 2017 when they were working on it the security was on their mind and it is still very much an engineering run shop there.
Now saying they pay that well but they do care about security and their main pool of developer come from a banking and insurance background.
Total novice here. What are the risks associated with wifi on the devices you mentioned?
This is a good list, though not comprehensive by any means.
https://usa.kaspersky.com/resource-center/preemptive-safety/best-practices-for-iot-security
That's why even on my Samsung "Smart" TV I don't connect it to WiFi and only use my Amazon FireStick for streaming etc. While I can assume Amazon is mining my data to serve me targeted Ads and such Amazon has some of the most stringent security because a major security breach would rock the AWS world. Not enough people are going to stop buying Samsung TV's if it turns out there's security vulnerability identified for them to invest more heavily in security.
https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECE/News/2023/purdue-researchers-uncover-vulnerabilities-in-smart-tvs
Ty I'll have a read and upskill. Appreciate it.
You can put them on a guest netowork, or If your router supports it, you can make a virtual network that's isolated from your main devices
You can put your computer and phone on the main network but have smart lights and tvs and other untrusted devices on the other network
The short answer is that these companies aren’t making appliances with internet connectivity as a feature from the ground up - they’re designing appliances and then jamming an internet connection into it as an afterthought.
And when the guy in charge of security says “hey, I know the product already has all the necessary features and can be controlled over the internet and everything - but we need to delay the product launch for a week to make sure that it’s actually secure”, nobody listens to him and it ships with some off-the-shelf security system that already has known exploits.
Oh, and it’ll never get any security updates, and if the company that makes the appliance goes out of business or drops support for the appliance, it won’t just go back to being a “normal”, non-smart refrigerator or garage door opener. It’ll just stop working entirely.
At least they won't have to worry about laundering all the money they make.
Not anymore, thanks a lot snitches.
Any journalist with an ounce of integrity would have quietly buried this story
It is okay they said in the article that the company didn’t listen. Also snitches shouldn’t have said anything. A company losing millions “oh no”
My old laundary room the machines were a little janky so if you pushed the coin holder in but didn’t pull it out hard enough, the light would stay on and the next person could also lightly push the holder in without pulling out too hard and keep using the machine. My landlady found out though and she would come by to pull them out consistently after a while
At college there was a snack machine and drink machine next to each other. If you got a snack the drink machine might kick out a random drink.
At one job if you paid for a drink but hammered the button to select the variety super fast you would get multiple cans.
A drink machine that might give you a free drink to go along with your snack purchase seems like the kind of thing I'd build deliberately. Just a little harmless confusion and coolness added to your life.
These days (in Tokyo) you can get a new iPhone during a vending machine snafu.
Fuck, I hope my humble new-account-credit abuse method doesn’t get caught in the crossfire of this.
These mfs definitely told the teacher when she forgot the homework.
This is why you also validate API calls on the backend.
And they are telling people why!?
That is the common practice for security research.
You send the details to the manufacturer and give a reasonable time for them to fix the issue. If they dont reply or fix it, it is better to come open to public and oust them since they provide a security risk to everyone
This puts pressure on service providers like them, while also making everyone aware of the security risks that bad companies are putting out there. Because if the good guys found this flaw, some bad guys will eventually find as well
The guys are honest. Something a lot of people should try to do these days.
Unfortunately all the people that should be never will, and all the people who do often end up worse off because of it. As the old saying goes: no good deed goes unpunished.
Stockings and quarters, the old school analog hack.
Back in the day, we just put coffee stirrers in the coin slots. Worked great.
Good, now hush, it’s not stealing from your landlord… it’s reacquirin your own money.
Is it possible to withdraw the funds from your account?
My dorm’s laundry machines required a student ID card swipe to charge your account. If you swiped then unplugged the swiper the signal would go to the machine but never connect to the network to charge you. Dudes would come from off campus for the free laundry.
In my day we just pressed our lips against the coin slot and sucked the quarters back out
People gave that company their billing information.
These young in’s. You never know what they’ll be up to next. Just 100,00 million dollars on a laundry card went right over the heads of geezers at CSC.
When I was in school sometime last century, our dorm washers/dryers worked by inserting a plastic circuit board that you bought from a vending machine. It allowed the machine to complete the cycle, and then was melted/destroyed by the machine. We had quite a little cottage industry figuring out how to duplicate and then selling fake boards.
Pantyhose. Thats all I’m gonna say
Good, CSC has stolen hundreds of dollars from me when I select to top up more time on the dryer and it just eats the funds and doesn’t add time. Also the dryer sucks so bad that even with a small load the dryer will never complete dry anything after a 2$ 60 min cycle.
Why they gotta snitch smfh
The kids are gonna be alright
Years ago I was xeroxing stuff at Kinko's Copy Shop (a national chain in the USA). You would grab a little "brick" with a mechanical counter and a metal lanyard from a rack and insert it into a slot on the copier to start. Every copy would increment the counter one point and when you were done you took it to the register and paid five cents per copy.
I discovered by accident that the brick would zero the count if dropped just right. I sent an email to 2600 Magazine describing my hack and my letter was printed.
Whatever happened to just buying a key online and opening up the coin box and putting coins from it through the machine?
Ok well you just ruined it with this article…
So, these guys are a bunch of assholes then.
Being honest isn't being assholes. They are trying to fix what they see as a problem that shouldn't be a part of their world.
Besides that, any known vulnerabilty can lead to other unknown security issues.
Sure beats the old coffee stir sticks coin slot trick!
The Konami code!
This is a low point flag in some CTFs, and in others, so simple that it doesn’t even show up as a flag. Front-door locked, window open. Not to take anything away from the mindset nor findings the pair found, but this is absolutely absurd lol
Mom?
Old tech Lol
How many people are going to actually know how to do this? Probably why the company didn’t do anything about it
I use these washers, I had the same idea but I'm not cyber security savvy
My college made laundry free for all on campus housing my sophomore year.
oh nooooooo~ whatever shal we do...!
things that should already be free are now free!
Somebody call in the riot police!
We had one machine on our floor that took tokens. If you had a butter knife you could shove it through the side panel and use it as some sort of lever that turned the machine on. Not sure who discovered it, how it worked, and why we weren’t electrocuted. but it was awesome
Still no one posted what the article said.. fuck it I guess.. on to the next one.
You won’t read it all, but here it is
CSC ServiceWorks provides laundry machines to thousands of residential homes and universities, but the company ignored requests to fix a security bug.
A pair of university students say they found and reported earlier this year a security flaw allowing anyone to avoid paying for laundry provided by over a million internet-connected laundry machines in residences and college campuses around the world. Months later, the vulnerability remains open after CSC ServiceWorks repeatedly ignored requests to fix the flaw. UC Santa Cruz students Alexander Sherbrooke and Iakov Taranenko told TechCrunch that the vulnerability they discovered allows anyone to remotely send commands to laundry machines run by CSC and operate laundry cycles for free. Sherbrooke said he was sitting on the floor of his basement laundry room in the early hours one January morning with his laptop in hand and “suddenly having an ‘oh s—’ moment.” From his laptop, Sherbrooke ran a script of code with instructions telling the machine in front of him to start a cycle despite having $0 in his laundry account. The machine immediately woke up with a loud beep and flashed “PUSH START” on its display, indicating the machine was ready to wash a free load of laundry. In another case, the students added an ostensible balance of several million dollars into one of their laundry accounts, which reflected in their CSC Go mobile app as though it were an entirely normal amount of money for a student to spend on laundry. CSC ServiceWorks is a large laundry service company, touting a network of over a million laundry machines installed in hotels, university campuses, and residences across the United States, Canada and Europe. Since CSC ServiceWorks does not have a dedicated security page for reporting security vulnerabilities, Sherbrooke and Taranenko sent the company several messages through its online contact form in January but heard nothing back from the company. A phone call to the company landed them nowhere either, they said. The students also sent their findings to the CERT Coordination Center at Carnegie Mellon University, which helps security researchers disclose flaws to affected vendors and provide fixes and guidance to the public. The students are now revealing more about their findings after waiting longer than the customary three months that security researchers typically grant vendors to fix flaws before going public. The pair first disclosed their research in a presentation at their university cybersecurity club earlier in May. It’s unclear who, if anyone, is responsible for cybersecurity at CSC, and representatives for CSC did not respond to TechCrunch’s requests for comment. The student researchers said the vulnerability is in the API used by CSC’s mobile app, CSC Go. An API allows apps and devices to communicate with each other over the internet. In this case, the customer opens the CSC Go app to top up their account with funds, pay, and begin a laundry load on a nearby machine. Sherbrooke and Taranenko discovered that CSC’s servers can be tricked into accepting commands that modify their account balances because any security checks are done by the app on the user’s device and are automatically trusted by CSC’s servers. This allows them to pay for laundry without actually putting real funds in their accounts. By analyzing the network traffic while logged in and using the CSC Go app, Sherbrooke and Taranenko found they could circumvent the app’s security checks and send commands directly to CSC’s servers, which are not available through the app itself. Technology vendors like CSC are ultimately responsible for making sure their servers are performing the proper security checks; otherwise it’s akin to having a bank vault protected by a guard who doesn’t bother to check who is allowed in. The researchers said potentially anyone can create a CSC Go user account and send commands using the API because the servers are also not checking if new users owned their email addresses. The researchers tested this by creating a new CSC account with a made-up email address. With direct access to the API and referencing CSC’s own published list of commands for communicating with its servers, the researchers said it is possible to remotely locate and interact with “every laundry machine on the CSC ServiceWorks connected network.” Practically speaking, free laundry has an obvious upside. But the researchers stressed the potential dangers of having heavy-duty appliances connected to the internet and vulnerable to attacks. Sherbrooke and Taranenko said they were unaware if sending commands through the API can bypass the safety restrictions that modern laundry machines come with to prevent overheating and fires. The researchers said someone would have to physically push the laundry machine’s start button to begin a cycle; until then, the settings on the front of the laundry machine cannot be changed unless someone resets the machine. CSC quietly wiped out the researchers’ account balance of several million dollars after they reported their findings, but the researchers said the bug remains unfixed and it’s still possible for users to “freely” give themselves any amount of money. Taranenko said he was disappointed that CSC did not acknowledge their vulnerability. “I just don’t get how a company that large makes those types of mistakes, then has no way of contacting them,” he said. “Worst-case scenario, people can easily load up their wallets and the company loses a ton of money. Why not spend a bare minimum of having a single monitored security email inbox for this type of situation?” But the researchers are undeterred by the lack of response from CSC. “Since we’re doing this in good faith, I don’t mind spending a few hours waiting on hold to call their help desk if it would help a company with its security issues,” said Taranenko, adding that it was “fun to get to do this type of security research in the real world and not just in simulated competitions.”
Imagine being that lazy and then bitching when somebody else doesn't do the work for you. 😂
That must be one obese index finger.
User deleted comment
15d
You think the company can sue them for not fixing a problem for them? That is bonkers.
It’s probably in the TOS or T&C
Do you often accept those for other people’s washing machines? Probably oughtn’t.
Theft of services. Electric, water, the machine itself. I am not saying it's probable, but it is possible, and indeed bonkers.
You still have to buy detergent, no?
In the US we have laundry machines that charge the user to use them.
It’s not so much a “they got everything for free.” It’s a “they didn’t have to pay to use the machine.”
I don’t know if that makes sense, I get that not everyone is from the US and they could’ve explained how “pay-to-use” washing machines work.
I was just reading the title of the article.
Yeah. The title of the article indicates that you can DO your laundry for free. You still have to provide your dirty clothes and the detergent. In the US we don’t typically have machines that can also charge for detergent. But I imagine if the system was designed to charge for detergent and dispense it, I bet that would be affected as well.
Again, I only read the title of the article.
No more. No less.
Yeah, I’m trying to explain why the title makes sense to the average English speaker. In English “to do your laundry” means strictly doing it, there isn’t another method other than providing your own detergent.
What’s your primary language, or where are you from? Sorry I totally understand that English is complicated, but reading the title it’s correct and doesn’t imply additional detergent is supplied via this exploit.
Does that help explain it to you better? Sorry if it’s still not making sense to you.
Not a single word more.
Not a single word less.
So what are you trying to say? Is the joke that you’re pretending to not be smart enough to understand what the title is? The rest of us read the title as well and aren’t making the same obvious mistake you seem to be…
Not to be rude. But trust me, I could tell you weren’t reading any more. If you had it would’ve probably made more sense for you.
Don't even bother. There is usually an attention-starved troll (there are several in this thread alone) in almost every thread, and the only way to get make sure people give them that attention is to be negative. After all, our brains are wired to focus more on what we perceive to be negative than positive, so it makes sense.
They can not be reasoned with because ANY attention only reinforces that validation they so desperately need for whatever reason(mommy and daddy didn't hug them enough or whatever). The only way to truly make them go away is to ignore. Don't even downvote because that's also attention. It's what they WANT. Just ignore
Yeah, I kinda figured he was trying a “dumb troll” move, so I wanted to basically keep hinting that him pretending to be stupid was dumb. I’ve been cracking up over how slow he is.
User deleted comment
15d
It’s in the article
Yeah but who reads those?
Maybe you should?
Eh, most don't, but if they commit the time and energy to posting a comment about it without even skimming the linked article, they receive the downvotes they worked for.
Have a nice day!
3 missing replies
My college apartment had communal laundry. Well i would see this old lady doing laundry there all the time, didn’t speak English. We were friendly. Well one day she motions me to look at something, she types in a sequence of buttons that start the machine without paying. It was the best, God Bless that old lady!