For me, I disliked Jerry and Ramon's plot in The Pool Guy, one of the most boring of the series. But the plots with Independent George and Moviefone are some of my all-time favorites.
Mrs Seinfeld, I’m begging you. Turn the air conditioner on!
You're hot!?
I’d rather have a bottle of scotch!
STELLAAAAAAAAA
I dunno, I loved the George plot in that episode
Ha-ha - The one where Jason Alexander threatens to quit?
Saw an interview recently where this was based on Larry David quitting SNL, then realizing what a huge mistake he made.
They’re referring to how since George wasn’t in The Pen, which takes place entirely in Florida and doesn’t include Kramer or George, Jason Alexander told the writers that if they left George out of another episode then they should write him out permanently. As a result George is included in every episode throughout the rest of the series.
That wasn't the inspiration for this episode, it was the inspiration for George quitting his job at the real estate company and showing back up the next Monday
No - because Jason Alexander wasn’t in this episode he actually threatened to quit.
That episode has my favorite line of the entire series and I can’t even explain why I love it so much.
„The lakes not real“ „The lake is real!“ „They made the lake“ „But it’s real, It’s got water in it“
I will never be able to explain why I love this exchange so much - it’s just classic Helen, acting like my grandma did, in Florida.
And Jerry's dad complaining about the scotch tape and having a cookie. It's one of my top 3 favorite episodes
Look I’ve only got a few good years left. If I want a chip ahoy, I’m having a chip ahoy.
It’s that singular form of chips ahoy that gets me every time.
There’s a restaurant in Michigan called Ram’s Horn and my grandma (who was 100% Greek and grew up in Egypt) used to ask me if i wanted to go eat at Ram Horn and i always found it funny/amusing. Hey singular form is funny….apparently!!
Also with “the”. “We are going to the Walmart later”.
“Oh like he didn’t have a coke” gets in a big huff lol
My favorite line involving Jerry's parents is about the Northstar system on the Cadillac and how their parents think they never used it.
They do grandparents so well!
Agree! I fast forward thru the pen bits. I loooove Elaine complaining how hot it is and begging for the airconditioning to be turned on .. ha ha!!!! 😄
I always think “Then why are you wearing long sleeved pajamas! It’s Florida! Where are your summer clothes? “
Thats true .. probably out of habit. If the aircon was on she would be fine!
Reminds me so much of my mother's house. I would go there on a hundred degree day, no aircon on. "Open a window" she would say. "Mrs Seinfeld, I am begging you .. PLEASE put the air conditiiner ON!"
Elaine flailing around on the pull-out bed is one of my favorite scenes.
Kramer inadvertantly becoming a pimp
I feel like almost all Kramer stories are the b-stories which are of course hilarious.
True— can anyone name an episode where Kramers plot is the A storyline?
Thinking for a minute perhaps The Merv Griffin Show
When he ran away to Cali is all I can think of
Even then, we just see vignettes of Kramer while the story itself follows Jerry and George.
“Hey Kramer, you ever kill a man?”
“What do you think, sonny? These hands look like they’ve been soaking in Ivory liquid?! unintelligible vocalization”
"Where are we?"
..... "Earth!!!"
How do you not know where you are?
YOU don't.
Jason and Julia probably complained.
I had heard Jason could be a bit tricky like with that one story. Was Julia similar in that regard?
"The Stand-In" in season 5.
“The bottle deposit”
When him and Newman have the bottle deposit scam to drive to Michigan to get the $.10 refund instead of $.05.
Yes, Merv ep is probably one.
Yeah, that one is a tough call. You could argue Jerry has the A-plot since his plot loops in Elaine’s plot, but Kramer’s plot loops in both Jerry, Elaine, and George’s plots, plus Newman and a celebrity guest, even though less time is dedicated to it.
When he hires an intern for Kramerica industries?
Baaaddd chicken! Mess you up!
the one where he goes to California?
The mail scheme with Newman maybe?
Elsewhere in the thread someone mentioned The Strike. Double whammy of a Kramer A plot but the B plot still shines (Festivus).
What about when his name Cosmo was discovered
The one where he suddenly becomes entrenched in some office and everyone thinks he works there
I feel like Elaine’s time with Bizarro Jerry is the A plot there.
Prime example of both the A and B plots being excellent. But the B was definitely good enough to be an A plot, which is part of why Seinfeld was so fucking great. Both its concurrent stories were often memorable.
Whaddya have in the briefcase?
I’m not a pimp!
I said turn, pimp!
The gymnast, hate the plot with Jerry dating the gymnast. Love George eating out of the trash and continually making a fool of himself in front of Mrs.Enright, and you can’t forget about Moland Spring and the Mr.Pitt speech at the end.
Yeah, the gymnast plot was very weak compared to George and Elaine’s plots, although Kramer does kill a guy by passing a kidney stone.
And our stock will rise high!
This is true. That Gymnast plot is such a nothing plot. As a rule the show does a lot of "tell, no show" but it usually has clever wordplay or a way to make not knowing the specifics funny. In this case we don't need that, so things just kinda flatline.
Hello and welcome to movie phone!
Why don’t you just tell me the name of the movie you want to see!
You've selected... Agent Zero?
Elaine getting rabies in The Glasses.
Woof woof, not bang bang
quizzical look
Her holding the door open for Jerry when they leave for the hospital always gets me lol
Just follow the trail of blood!!
She's FOAMING at the mouth!
I love how Ramon only tells boring stories about pool maintenance. That's why Jerry hated being around him.
He should have bought Newman’s bunion stories. Only eight bucks.
haha!
It reminds me of Kiff on Futurama only having stories about Zap even though Kiff loathes Zap. I think everyone knows someone like that.
Michael Cohen and Trump
Haha At least Cohen’s stories are interesting. For now at least. I’m sure if I had to ride the subway with him in twenty years I’d get off at an early stop though.
The Strike! Festivus!!!
NoBagelNoBagelNoBagel
This is the primo example in my book
Yamma hama!
Its fright night
Kramer’s growing lollipop 🍭 in the backwards episode.
Good one. That thing was fucking entrancing when I first saw that episode.
YES‼️
Darrin the Intern.
Darrin's going away for a looooooooong time
The most glaring and obvious and historic answer to this question is:
The Strike
Festivus obviously took over not only the episode but received iconic pop culture status
I used to have trouble remembering which episode had the storyline about George becoming a hand model, until I realised it’s hidden under the hugeness of the puffy shirt storyline.
the hand model storyline is quintessential Seinfeld / Larry David for me, its hard to outshine the Puffy Shirt, but I would argue it does. Its certainly an all time episode for me
Kramer test driving the car for Jerry.
Mr. Kramer, the road!
Alright, I’ll think about it
The race. George pretending to be a “comunista simpático” and Kramer getting into socialist ideas is hilarious. Plus the “she named names”.
The dealership episode. Both the B and the c plot lines are so much better than the A plotline.
Jerry buying a car from a former mechanic turned salesman while also playing therapist pales in comparison to George and his twix struggles and Kramer driving around with the other salesman.
How many Twix does that make for you today, like eight Twix!?
Twix is the only candy with the cookie crunch!!
FREE CANDAY!
They're all Twix! It was a set up! A set up I tell you!
Nooo :still chewing:
Keys?
How are you gonna start it?
Yeah, we found it!
Just sign here and we’ll get that yellow Saab ready to go
Additional overcharge,
A little place called... We'll see!!
TWIXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!
I like the one with the swirling chocolate in the commercial!
THEY ALL HAVE SWIRLING CHOCOLATE IN THE COMMERCIALS!
Not Skittles!!
Lol gets me Everytime!
Elaine and Puddy, on the plane flight from Oslo to NYC. What a way to reintroduce that character.
Vegetable lasagna!
That's right.
Elaine’s boyfriend Darryl in The Wizard
We shouldn't be talking about this
YO YO KEEP IT DOWN
South Africa
He's going away for a long, long time.
Kra-Merica
Kramer canceling his mail
From The Jimmy, I thought Kramer being mistaken as being mentally disabled was far funnier than the A-plot (George being suspected of stealing from the Yankees). Both were solid plots, but the ending really solidly nailed the B-plot imo, and was the funniest way to end the episode.
The Barber; George’s Pensky file escapades are funnier than yet another story about Jerry treating a non-romantic relationship with a man like a romantic one, which was already done in a more interesting way in Male Unbonding and The Boyfriend.
In The Seven, I actually love the story of the girl who wears the same dress all the time and the fight over the antique bike between Kramer and Elaine. Those 2 sub-plots make the total episode a favorite for me.
Me: I gotta go..I gotta get going..any variation of this
My brother: To see Ramon?
Every time, without fail. People think we're nuts
That guy's delivery was just 🔥 It's one of my favorite random one-liners in the series
And I'm now laughing to myself just imagining this convo 😹
Anything where Elaine lets her vanity get the best of her is good.
The cake episode. I don't even remember the other plot lines for that episode.
I looked and it's the Frogger episode, in my mind those were separate shows.
Well, don’t miiiind if I do waltzes with the cake
Yeah, what the hell.
Is the item still within you?
Wrapping up this episode right now and I distinctly remember both plots, but had no clue they were the same episode!
I shouldn’t, I mustn’t
Why are MY shoes, a topic of conversation?!?!
That bothered you?
shrug
This is why you're not in the pilot.
Just watched the one where she's mistaken for Suz and they hold a funeral for her because everyone thinks she's dead. Hilarious.
Have you seen the bloopers for the funeral scene? Epic
A real showcase of Julia's professionalism and courtesy for other people's time.
……why don’t you just tell me the name of the movie you’ve selected?
The Wizard... George's game of chicken with the Rosses and Elaine's racially-ambiguous boyfriend outshine Morty's tip calculator plot...
The Japanese businessmen sleeping in Kramers dresser.
She name name!
Oh so you only disliked the Ramon story because he cleans pools?
Elaine eating "Petah-Boy's" cake in The Frogger.
Mulva in “The Junior Mint”
Hest
Gipple?
I really like the Pool Guy! But I totally understand, the Moviefone and Independent George are top tier plots
the one with the Cafe, I love the I Q test plot lol
The Dinner Party. George and Kramer going to the liquor store, buying from a newsstand just to get change, and getting double parked by Saddam Hussein is better than Jerry and Elaine at the bakery.
Jerry getting the van from fragile Frankie merman is outshined by George's parents dumping him and,constantly having sex
SEINFELD'S VAN! SEINFELD'S VAN!
KEVIN BACON. SUSAN SARANDON. YOU GOTTA GET ME OVER THAT MOUNTAIN
I think we should part ways here
Stay out of the deep end.
The Butter Shave
Newman and the farm stay in the bottle deposit
Kramer getting the birthday card signed by the Yankees back from the sick kid, some really great lines.
“So if I can get Paul O’Neill to hit two home runs could you do something for me?”
“Get up out of this bed and walk again!”
“Yeahthatdbegreat but what I really would like is that birthday card back”
Other than the strike, the mom and pop store has to be the ultimate example
George the King in the Gum episode
Great example OP
Kramer Golfing at the river Ocean.
Kramer SWIMMING in the river!
Kramer golfing at Kenny Rogers
Maybe it’s a tie but Jerry car shopping with Puddy while Puddy “steals” his “moves.”
Aside: are we supposed to think Jerry’s some kind of stud?
Puffy stealing his loves was much earlier in the series than the car shopping episode. You’re conflating episodes. Moved was when Puddy and Elaine were first dating. Puffy became a car salesman towards the end of their relationship.
Newman and the farm stay in the bottle deposit
Oh the humanity!
The meat slicer
I always forget which episode Kramer’s Risk plot line is (The Label Maker) because I assume it’s an A plot
I like the one with the swirling chocolate in the commercial!
THEY ALL HAVE SWIRLING CHOCOLATE IN THE COMMERCIALS!
Not Skittles!!
Lol gets me Everytime!
Mortys disbelief there's a chiropractor standing there as he makes his way into the living room bent over from the pullout sofa.
Jerry’s bootlegging career in ‘The Little Kicks’
Kramer and his test drive on The Dealership
B-plot on Seinfeld? The whole show is about nothing. Every episode has A, B and C plots..
Kramer taking over the Hansom cab and feeding the horse beef-a-reeno. It played back into the A plot.
The Pick...Jerry's storyline is lame compared to Elaine's Christmas card. "Everyone keeps calling me Nip!"
The Bris. The mohel is unbearable. One of the worst one off characters in the show’s run. Kramer’s Pigman subplot is really great
The Pen but Elaine's back after sleeping on the foldout bed steals the whole show.