Seriously do they want equal rights or special treatment? If you want equality, you have to be accountable for your own self preservation as much as men. Too many times have I seen situations where they act like they're a victim of their circumstances when in reality there were several solutions to their problems. Like bffr you're a grown ass woman not a child with little to no agency. All it does is give fuel to the redpill meme that women are allergic to accountability.
It makes me sick to my stomach how some women pretend they have no agency
D.E.I. till I D.I.E., holy shit! When will it stop, FFS?Can you give an example of what particular situations you’re alluding to?
The whole "teach men not to rape" discourse comes to mind. What, realistically, has a higher chance of preventing a rape in the future?
Me telling my son that he shouldn't rape girls? Or me telling my daughter that she should never walk alone at night?
"Hurr durr victim blaming"
No one would make that argument if I taught my son not to walk alone at night flashing money like a big shot. He might end up getting hurt. Killed, even. No one would accuse me of "victim blaming" for that advice.
No one would accuse me of "victim blaming" if I gave that same advice to my daughter.
So why is sex special? Of course a violation of your intimacy is a way worse crime than money theft but the analogy stands on its own, barring bad faith interpretation.
Has any theft in the history of the world been prevented by telling thieves they shouldn't steal?
THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM lies in the fact that women are willing to accept the value of their sexuality as a strength, that they can use to their advantage, but not as a weakness, that attracts creeps and predators.
Women can choose to get attention or not get attention. But they can NOT choose the kind of attention they get.
And that PISSES THEM THE FUCK OFF. Rightly so. But the world is not fair. And women just can't deal with that. They like to dress up so Chad notices them. But they get pissed off when Jim and Bob approach or when Pajeet oggles at her and takes pictures while following her around.
The world is not fair. Women just have a really hard time coming to terms with that. And why should they? The majority of the male human species has been accomodating their whims for the better part of a century.
WHY SHOULD THEY STOP? Why should they argue for equality in draft or street sweeping positions?
"Hurr durr if the genders were reversed hurr durr"
So?
And before anyone accuses me of being mysogynist, I think most men are really stupid. I think the male sex is essentially slave morality personified.
You can do both. I don’t think anyone argues about that. Women are already telling each other how to not get raped. We need to make sure it’s covered from all angles. This is a weird take because why are you arguing against telling men not to rape. I think there are plenty of other examples but not this one
This is a weird take because why are you arguing against telling men not to rape.
"Teach men not to rape" has always been a weird framing because those who will take the "teaching" to heart largely won't need it, and those who need it largely won't take it to heart. It's not totally worthless, it may prevent some of the college-style edge cases where a guy is too aggressive and doesn't take no for an answer, but treating it as a substantial solution to the "rape question" is kind of absurd. The guy who kidnaps a woman at a bar or molests a family member isn't going to be deterred by teaching him that rape is wrong.
Is it going to hurt men to teach them not to rape? To remind them of consent? It won’t. So why is this such a big issue. You’re right, men who are crazy are probably going to do whatever anyways. but what would the harm be to still teach the concept? Rape is so often coercion or alcohol related or an adult preying on someone young. That’s why it needs to be explicit. People still don’t get that.
I also never said this was a solution solving rape idk where you got that idea. But don’t think it’s a “women claiming they are the victim” situation like implied. If They are trying to take initiative and start a conversation about. Encouraging awareness. If anything, his original comment is really whiney and definitely playing the victim. If you already know not to rape, awesome. Why are you crying about it.
Teach everyone not to rape if that is better language for sensitivity purposes. Idc. Why are we talking about this
but what would the harm be to still teach the concept?
If you're actually asking? It's likely to foment resentment among many of the non-rapists for being treated as presumptive criminals. Let's also teach black people not to mug – it's just building awareness about the consensual transfer of goods.
If this causes resentment then I fear you’re already too far gone and don’t actually care to have a conversation about it
This is actually a pretty normal reaction to being accused of something you didn't commit, I think
I didn’t accuse anyone. I just said teach men not to rape. How is that accusing anyone ….?
The accusation of misbehaviour (factually nearly nonexistent in this case) is literally the implication of what you're saying ???
none of this happened. I just said to teach men not to rape
In your words you think "teaching the concept" will dissuade "an adult preying on someone young". You're a fucking idiot, and a hysterical one at that.
This is an insane overreaction from what I said. Why is this so hard to get? Why are you so mad about this? It’s the bare minimum
Shockingly few parents think about the moral education they give their children. You actually literally need to remind them to teach their sons to not rape.