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![The Supreme Court Justices Who Just Gave U.S Presidents Absolute Immunity](https://preview.redd.it/nruuqcrza8ad1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=156c7775eafe428c96dfc41b931913e77179d92b)
"The Court thus concludes that the President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution for conduct within his exclusive sphere of constitutional authority... ...Not all of the President's official acts fall within his "conclusive and preclusive" authority"
NGL, this doesn't sound like the kinda immunity I've heard some folks screaming about...
Basically, if it is deemed outside the sphere of the Oval Office (And sometimes even within), he's fucked just like anyone else...
If I'm getting this wrong, please explain...
The issue is that ultimately, after any such charge is appealed back up to SCOTUS, they can determine that it was all official just by Trump's word. It's a backdoor clause that they put in full well knowing that they could use it to bail him out in the future, if need be. The "qualified" part is to make people feel warm and fuzzy about it, as if they would ever qualify anything of consequence as criminal against him...
Yeah, but then they run the risk of another president using that same freebie they gave Trump against their political interests. It doesn't sound like a get out of jail free card to me no matter how you slice it. My understanding is it applies to core presidential powers. If they just magically extend the core presidential powers, they're playing with fire, and they know it
That's very optimistic of you to believe that there will ever be another election if Trump wins in November...
Still a big iff. That and I think many are overestimating the damage he can actually do to the core structure. He will do allot of damage. That much is undeniable. But it's not like elections and all of democracy will just vanish in 4 years or less in a governmental system which has stood the test of time for around 250 years. It takes ALLOT of stuff to happen for that to even be a possibility. And most of it requires most of the country to be on the same wavelength (They aren't).
He should be prevented from getting the presidency. But in the event he ends up getting re-elected, temper your damage expectations just a bit.
I lack your optimism; the GOP has been building up to this moment for decades, and every time we think that they have been "defeated," they come crawling back from the woodwork to weasel into power...they have the Supreme Court and a wholly gerrymandered electorate, and when they push forward, we simply step aside or wring our hands and say "Oh, isn't that terrible! They're so awful!"
Think about it: 2008 should have been the Death knell of the GOP, and yet they have literal lifetime appointments to legislate from the bench.
We're fucked; it's just going to be a long, slow fucking.
I wouldn't so much call it optimism so much as skepticism. Like, yes. Mathematically speaking, the chance of Trump erasing democracy in America are not zero. But, that doesn't necessarily mean it's high either.
He'd have to erase term limits to start, which would require erasing the 22nd Ammendment. That requires a 3/4 congressional vote, which is almost guaranteed to fail.
Then, he would have to consolidate way more power in the executive branch, which is bound to be noticed and resisted.
Just those two things alone are monumental tasks. Let alone within a mere 4 year time span. I wouldn't so much say "Have faith" more than I would ask you to recognize one of the main reasons the US is one of, if not the single longest standing democracy in modern history. The framework is built to resist tyrants. Destroying such framework requires a herculean political effort, and the consent of a large majority of the general public. Therefore, I shall remain skeptical of claims that democracy is about to fall.
I hope that you are right and I am very very wrong.