First time living close by to a shop. Am I supposed to expect shop alarms to be going off all night?

it is 2:30 in the fuckin morning and a local shop alarm has been blaring out since 11pm. aside from calling the non-urgent police line (did that an hour and a half ago) , anything that can be done about this? It's bad enough I'm losing sleep, can't imagine how the two little kids who live in the apartment above me are doing.

This has happened about four or five times since I moved in two years ago, so it's not exactly chronic, but it's common enough to drive me crazy. Is this just a normal tradeoff for living walking distance to a shop?

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hermagne

3mo

If you think it’s someone at a shop constantly forgetting their keys or the alarm code, I’d say report it to your local council with the police job/receipt number and say it’s a noise nuisance. But honestly five times in two years isn’t that many and maybe they are legitimate break ins where you’d think the owner would want to get security on site asap. I’d be pretty annoyed though if an alarm’s been blaring for three hours straight.

Motor-Ad5284

3mo

If it's at all possible, ask the owner for his/her number,ring them when it happens. I realise they probably won't give it to you,but it's worth a shot,nothing else appears to be working.

Pretty_Public5520

3mo

As it’s a noise complaint, you need to record the date time and duration. Alarms aren’t supposed to go for more than a predetermined time under Australian standards. Any more than that and they aren’t compliant and the owner needs to have this rectified.

Report to the council.

Edit : there are fines that can be issued to the owner for failure to rectify this issue

raecaw

3mo

definitely going to. worked out that it's the local pub, and it was going off until 9am this morning (10 hours)

Soon as they open I'm going to go speak to them too

Rotor1337

3mo

Hey mate, here's some info for you to pass on to the council and the owner.

The alarm system is non-compliant to AS2201.1 section 3.16.2.9.1 part (b);

Duration - not longer than 5 min alarm unless the system is manually reset, or a subsequent alarm from a different zone has occurred.

raecaw

3mo

you absolute legend! thanks for this info mate

Rotor1337

3mo

Too easy, spent way too many hours researching security standards and guidelines a few jobs ago.

Rotor1337

2mo

How did it go mate, get some positive feedback?

raecaw

2mo

nope, apparently it doesn't occur frequently enough to be reportable, and the owner doesn't care (y)

Rotor1337

2mo

Thanks local government. Just quietly I'd be making plans to reef the siren box off the wall next time it goes off. It's highly unlikely to be one with a built-in battery.

raecaw

2mo

if i didn't feel unsafe going out at 1am as a non-male i'd have done so already lmao

Pretty_Public5520

3mo

This is it. I knew it existed. 🤣

DesperateBarracuda0

3mo

I lived walking distance to shops before but never heard any alarms. I'd pop down and have a word with the shop when they open

tellmewhattodopleas

3mo

This would be so annoying. If you know what shop it is talk to the staff in there about it. The owner needs to be made aware so they or someone else can switch it off.

aw3k1d

3mo

I've lived close to many shops but never experienced this, unlucky

dogecoin_pleasures

3mo

Normally it doesn't happen too often and the shop owner will drive out promptly to fix it (they should get an alert). Not sure what happened here.

twitch-switch

3mo

How loud is it? Maybe the bakery set off the fire alarm?

jngjng88

3mo

Snap send solve app, I had the same issue with alarms going off literally every night between 11pm-3am for months, 5mins minimum, sometimes 20-30mins, often multiple times per night...

Seldom hear alarms now, & if they do go off they last several seconds.

Arseholes, apparently it was like that for years until I kicked up a fuss about it.

raecaw

3mo

oh you legend, I've submitted the complaint.

jngjng88

3mo

Good stuff 👍 Escalate as much as you need.

Few-Cod6159

3mo

Might be good to let the business know as well if you haven’t , company I worked for was getting complaints for a week and turned out a sensor was faulty, business and security company were unaware of it and probably wouldn’t of been resolved if the neighbour didn’t speak up.

Maaaaate

Scarborough

3mo

If it's a retail centre they should (would) have alarm monitoring on site, or at least security patrols throught the night.

Check who manages it.

raecaw

3mo

nah, its just a supermarket next to a pub with a couple of takeaways. It'll be independently managed i reckon, and i can guarantee I've never seen a security guard aside from a bouncer at the pub when it's open.

Worked out it was the pub alarm so I'm gonna go have a chat to them.

Mental_Task9156

3mo

Report it to the local council and/or police as a noise complaint.

https://www.wa.gov.au/system/files/2023-01/Noise-regulations-fact-sheet-Audible-alarms.pdf

JulieAnneP

3mo

Maybe grab some earplugs to have on hand when it happens? Won't block it out completely but hopefully enough to get to sleep.

Disastrous-Pay738

3mo

Is the alarm box making the noise accessible? If so get a hivis and ladder and just remove it in the middle of the day

wombatlegs

3mo

Why wait?

When the alarm at a servo near me kept going off in the night, nobody coming, and not for the first time, I just swung a wooden post, knocked the alarm box off the wall, and ripped out the siren.

So they have infra-red CCTV of an old guy in a dressing gown with bleary eyes and a 4x2. What are they going to do?

What they did do, long overdue, was to install a whole new security system the next day. We've had no problems since. :-)

Disastrous-Pay738

3mo

Yeah fair

[deleted]

3mo

If you call the cops and 4 hours goes by and it's still going off, may as well help yourself to a five finger discount from the shop as well at that point

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DumbKunt22

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3mo

Hahaha

raecaw

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3mo

how dare you say we should piss on the poor