[general] brother routes ♥️
Otomemethe only time the "not related" reveal actually surprised me was .. he's not her brother, but her mom's cousin all along.
🎤🎤🎤 SAY IT
Hey if he's hot my morals are going right out the window
Bonus points for them being their blood-related. No "they're adopted/a stepbrother".
Go big or go home. Commit to the entire taboo!
Yesss blood related, my favorite flavor😌
Don’t threaten me with a good time
blood related only or BUST. unfortunately very few games have it, it always ends up being step bait 😔👎
I honestly don't get why they do it. For people squicked out by incest being raised as siblings (maybe not even knowing that they arent related) is already icky enough and for those that are into taboo relationships it feels like a cop-out. 🤷♀️
I've seen too many people complain about characters raised as adopted or step-siblings WHILE knowing they're not related. I've even seen too many people complain even just characters raised in the same house with the same parental figure without being adopted (like Kaeya x Diluc from Genshin Impact. People who like this ship consistently get called "disgusting" and "freaks"). It's crazy. I swear this used to be so common, like look at the movie Clueless. We used to be a real society.
Ah yes, the good old sworn brothers discourse. I have also once seen childhood friends being called incest adjacent. My favorite "it's problematic" complaint I've seen is that a 18 year old dating a 17 year old is grooming.
I've seen a couple 18yo break up with their 17yo partner because they just had their birthday and are not a creep. I know in one case their birthdays were only a month apart. Haven't seen it a lot but the fact it's happened 2-3 times that I've seen makes me sad.
i talked about this with someone on here a while ago and it comes down to some guidelines game devs are expected to adhere to (they aren’t actually laws per se) and full blood incest is a nono- that being said, half still seems to be ok but if i had to guess they probably just want to avoid anything that could land them in hot water lol
Huh, okay that would make sense. Though that answer raises a new question for me. From who are those guidelines? Like, are we talking government, ratings board, citizens groups who will make a fuss or higher ups in the industry? I'm also curious what other guidelines are in place.
i went and found it, you can read the comment chain here
Thank you for going through the effort to dig that up. 🩷
no worries, sorry i cant offer anything more concrete. trust me, i too would love to know the decision making behind niichan gate lmao
Good point. Whoever made those guidelines, they don't seem to apply to the Chou no Doku devs.
choudoku was also made back in like...2010? 2011? also
major choudoku spoilers //
Tbf Chou doku was a pc game where the regulations are different?
it could be, the regulations topic specifically came up when we were talking about 闇色の魔珠 though so I honestly just don’t know at this point. it being more for console would make sense with what rejet did to nesso in the vita port of bws, but then that doesn’t make sense for wabisuke in grr 😂 who the hell knows really lol
I think it really depends on how the publishers manage to fight it. There’s a whole bunch of stuff I’ve seen that were surprising they got passed but others didn’t. Maybe it’s a case by case basis how conservative the devs are or how much they want to insist on their content and then cross fingers whoever is reviewing lets it go through, and then all it takes is resources and time.
yeeeap, really all we can do is speculate…it would be nice to have clear and consistent things but it is what it is 😔 at least there’s always indies for free reign (until payment processors swoop in lol)
just asking.. would u consider romancing a clone of your dead twin brother still incest?
Dmmd?
Nope.
spill the tea then xD
Selfscest or playing with yourself. This question has come up a few times in my life
No, the MC is the twin sister, not identical twins.
Omg I'm so sorry I misread your comment as "a clone of yourself" 😭
damn that is a good question, even if it’s not i still wanna do it for the memes lmao which game is it
https://vndb.org/v3425 it's an old game but still available on dlsite
adding to my list, ty fey for always coming through w the weird obscure recs for me 😂
lol i'm always 👀 when i find any game with incest options
im still on the lookout for that really crappy uncle game we talked about some time ago lmao
Me when I hear there is a brother route in a game : 😍 Me when the « brother » is actually just a step-brother and not related by blood to MC : 😒
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My guilty pleasure.
Can anyone recommend games with brother LIs?
Butterfly’s Poison (Chou no Doku)
Istg the more I hear about this game the more I wanna play it 🤌
I definitely recommend it if you’re into taboo relationships (a lot of trigger warnings tho’), good writing with little fillers and spicy scenes (Switch version rewritten to change the explicit scenes but still pretty steamy overall).
I’m limited to localized games since I unfortunately don’t speak Japanese, but someone else could definitely help with those, since I’m certain there are plenty more unlocalized brother routes out there hehe. I know Rejet has one game, Gekka Ryouran Romance, that has one.
Including stepsiblings, from what I’m familiar with (and with as few spoilers as possible), Chou no Doku (Switch and Steam), Taisho x Alice (Switch and Steam), and Hamefura (Switch) all have brother routes. Cinderella Phenomenon (Steam) has one as well with the MC’s younger stepbrother if you like indies. I believe Virche Evermore (Switch) also has an LI who was raised like the MC’s foster brother (not exactly what you’re asking for, but adjacent?).
There’s also which I was advised to spoiler-tag at first because the route in question isn’t readily available at first.
I personally really, really love the (non-blood related) big brother figure trope, but I know that’s not exactly what you asked for, so I’ll hold off on mentioning those LIs as well for now. But if you want those too, I’ll happily give them as well. Hope this helps a little bit! 😊
tfw you have a game which technically has a brother route but can't recommend the game because of spoilers
hint: it is an otome with "a walking debt generator, a marriage fraudster, a kept man, and a gambling addict"
I CAN’T BELIEVE I FORGOT THAT ONE 😓 But you’re so right!!! Tbh I wasn’t as fond of that game, so I think it slipped my mind when I was thinking about what to recommend haha. The MC is one of my all-time faves, though.
Any spicier recommendations...asking for a friend 🌶️
Hello! Out of all the ones I’ve talked about, Sympathy Kiss has some spicy content in each route and Chou no Doku is originally a dark R18 game, though they had to water down that aspect for localization to be less explicit. In general, for localized games, Olympia Soirée (Switch) also gets pretty spicy, and I think some of Voltage’s games do as well, so you could probably find a guy or premise in those that appeals to you since there are so many.
We really don’t have too much spicy content in commercial games, so indies and mobile games are probably the best way to go for spicier games in English. I haven’t played too many indies yet, so I don’t know a ton 😓 I’m sorry! But I hope you find something that appeals to you! ♥️
thank you, I'll check these out! :) I wish there were more mature games for women. Rinamaru is indie games studio working on a spicier otome game and has interactive minigames/VNs (available on patreon). They're awesome, and women run. Their anime-style cgs are gorgeous.
Hello!!! I just replied to OP with some more of the non-blood related ones since they were the original commenter, but they’re totally recommendations for you, too! If you haven’t played some of those games yet, I hope one of the guys I mentioned works for you in some way. ♥️
Of course!!! I really love giving out recs, and I’m always happy to help. ♥️😊
OMG thank you so much!! I’m pleasantly surprised at how many games have them to be honest, I didn’t think it was that many! If it’s okay, which are the other games with brother figures also? :O
Okay, so when I sat down and started thinking about it, I realized that there actually aren’t too many that specifically act like big brother figures to the MC? Which makes me sad. I want more. But I’ll list all the ones I’ve played who fit the description of a doting big brother type imo. 😊
My personal favorite is Toma from Amnesia (Switch and Steam), whom I love very dearly. However, he’s also really well-known for his other trope, which I’ll spoiler tag so you aren’t blindsided if you don’t mind spoilers: That being said, he’s always very caring and a lot of his content in the fandiscs, Amnesia Later x Crowd (Switch), centers more around his “big brother” traits, as it focuses on him and the MC moving forward as he tries to make amends. He’s still always very protective, but you also get so much fluff of him being really sweet and doting with her as they start a romantic relationship and honestly I absolutely loved all of it so much. I’m keeping myself from rambling for too long but Amnesia is also just my favorite otome game, so I’ll shill for it constantly haha, but he and Kent (not this trope but also lovely) are my faves from the game, so I’m always happy to recommend them the most!
There’s also Crius from Even If Tempest (Switch)! He’s a little bit older than most examples of the trope, but I definitely think he counts. EIT actually has a linear story structure, so you get to see him caring for and protecting the MC in literally every other route, and it’s really sweet. I think I read in a translated interview with his VA that he was even instructed to play the character as always having that sort of fondness for the MC. EIT is a dark fantasy game, so again, definitely look up some content warnings, but there’s also a fandisc that’s much more fluffy and romantic.
Gekkamaru from Nightshade (Switch and Steam) probably slides more smoothly into the bodyguard trope, since he’s a very, very devoted one to the MC. But they did grow up together very closely and he is older than her, so I’ll mention him anyway. Very sweet and VERY protective in every single route. Nightshade is another one of my all-time faves and all the other guys are great as well, so I’ll shill for it as a whole too haha.
Two other ones that I’ve played are Kunitaka from Winter’s Wish (Switch) and Masamune from Norn9 (Switch), although honestly they really didn’t stick with me. Kunitaka just didn’t stand out to me too much (especially in his own route somehow), and Masamune has other stuff about him that bugged me. But they do technically count, and they might work more for you than for me, so I’ll include them.
Finally, I want to mention a new fave of mine, which is Rokuro from Sympathy Kiss. I can’t get into the big brother figure aspect without getting into spoilers, but he’s super duper sweet and attentive to the MC. SymKiss is a slice of life game and his route has a lot of K-drama style drama in it lol, but I loved him so much personally as someone who loves both that personality type and slice of life. It’s also a spicier game if you like that!
As for other games that I haven’t played yet, but know from friends that these characters count, there’s Lavan (Psychedelica of the Ashen Hawk, Steam) and I thiiink Kagiha (Psychedelica of the Black Butterfly, Steam)? Kagiha might not be a “big brother” figure exactly, but I know he’s very caring and doting towards the MC, so he has that energy haha. I need to play those games 😅 There’s also Hideyoshi from Ikemen Sengoku, which is a mobile game, and Makoto from Voltage’s My Last First Kiss, which is on mobile and Switch.
That’s what I’ve got! Like I said, I do wish we had more who specifically fill the big brother figure niche lol, and if you want characters who are just really caring and reliable while still being older than the MC, or character who are just older brothers and are caring in that way in general, I can give more. But these are some of the most obvious examples of the trope that I know of. Hope someone works for all of you! ♥️
Lavan, Psychedelica of the Ashen Hawk
Lemme pull up a chair 🪑 I too would like to know :3
In English on Switch, there's Chou no Doku.
Black Wolves Saga -Bloody Nightmare- on PC/PSV, which has an unofficial/fan English translation. The game has a half brother LI, but in the PSV version, I've been told they cut out some of his context to make it a little vague?
In Japanese, there's more like Tiny x Machine Gun (I'm playing this one now), Shinigami to Shoujo, Walpurgis no Uta, and Sanzen Sekai Yuugi
Teeechnically "7'Scarlet"
Keith's route in Hamefura pirates. Well, step-brother technically, but still. If you have a thing for being called nee-san he’s def something for you
Some JP games with brother routes; Drastic Killer, Tsuki no Hikari Taiyou no Kage, Tiny x Machine gun, Himehibi Zoku Nigakki and Sanzen Sekai Yuugi MultiUniverse Myself.
Notable mentions but these are step brothers; Brothers Conflict, Brothers Koisuru Oniisama and Da Capo Girls Symphony.
- Lover Pretend (Switch)
I'm glad there's more of us 😈
Wasn't sure if this meant brothers that are LI and thus angst or brother of the protagonist as a LI which is sweet, sweet taboo angst. Glad to know by the comments now. In the words of a famous tweet: If the incest got chemistry, I can't make it not have chemistry. 🤭
Your last sentence was my exact thought when I saw this thread LOL. One game, the MC's brother isn't a route but by the end of it all, I was like "so uh, why'd you make him have better romantic chemistry with the MC than all the actual LIs???"
No one recommended this Watashi no rearu wa juujitsu sugeteiru 私のリアルは充実すげている, I believe the with voice version is on steam and the no voice is free on tetrascope website, has Japanese and Chinese translation, it’s one of my favourites, set in real life high school like jack jeanne. The studio Tetrascope only has 3 members but they make masterpieces, including my first otome game Sakuya 桜哉, the love between an AI robot with emotions and a girl, very deep and philosophical, highly recommend. All of their games are free to download on pc!
Blood related or no?
Both!
I love you, OP, and I want to highly recommend you to enjoy the glory that is the otome "Butterfly's Poison."
Yess Chou no Doku is pretty much my all time favorite
I found my people
The English language indie Rose of Segunda on Steam and Itchio.
Can you spoil it for me and let me know if they are related or not?
Yes they are full siblings
Love is love ♡
What a great day to come back to r/otomegames + what a great post to come back to here in r/otomegames.
For real though, whether it's an onii-chan or an Otouto, as long as I feel like wanting to monopolize him or when I feel like I feel the crowd behind me ready to lynch and geld me alive are there, I'm pretty sure it would hit. There's a shortage (of both time and games) though so at this point I'd take cousins and half/step-siblings though the real deal is much better for my toasty soul getting roasted over open fire. Already tasted the poison might as well lick the entire plate clean.
Yessss I wish I could see more otoutos in otome too!
🙏🙏🙏
I only have eyes for them. And my character.ai account is entirely dedicated to them 🥰
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WOOOO
I feel like this is an appropriate place to drop, that I still can't get over the brother's Chōjirōs route from Nightshade....
Ive been meaning to ask this question but what does LI stand for?
Love Interest. Basically the romanceable characters
Ooooh thank you!
You've already been answered but here’s a couple more, if you’re interested: Common Abbreviations
Omg thank you so much! This is so helpful
Discovering the scenic 'brother routes' where love for adventure meets the heart of exploration.
I just want games that can actually commit instead of bending over backwards and performing extreme acrobatics at the last second to explain how they're "not actually siblings teehee!". COMMIT YOU COWARDS!