The quality of this for low elos are huge, BCS people will stop to climb alt accounts and will play the rating system instead
Any guarantee that this will be the case? Because I am pretty sure there lots of players who don't really want to compete on the highest level but still play with meta decks just for the lulz...
and most of them are pretty shit at piloting the deck
Including yourself I’m guessing
Its funny to think that i often to play against trish, kosaka etc in ranked and event, you know those guys exactly even today i met 2 wc plate players twice in d5 reset. This game has always have the hidden elo system that will likely matching you with the same w/l as you are, no matter your rank is.
I dont smurf i knew exactly that is ruining New players experience, but sometimes i got burned out and quit the game for 1-2 month and i know exactly that plat players are mostly pretty bad even if they are using snake eyes or other stuff, how i knew this? because i play in plat 3 months ago, yes i quit 3 months ago due irl stuff. how TF i can win with meme deck like nouvelles against shs because my opponent didnt understand chain link works.
Sure u quit for 3 months yeah and I’m donald trump 😉
Not sure about that. I don’t see much incentive to play rating duels if there aren’t rewards :/
Most of the players are at gold-diamond because they simply dont got time to play so mutch and grind
Would be a lot easier to grind if you didn't have to watch the opponent solitaire combo for 15 minutes every other game
Makes no sense considering League of Legends or Dota game time and people still grind up
To be fair, i just surrender if my opp is too laggy
Based on a lot of my opponents I don't think most of the people in platinum are there by choice...
I’m plat and not because I don’t play a lot I fell into the trap of choosing a deck that I liked and is not viable in the meta
Yeah I got to plat on dark magicians and fully hit a brick wall when I got there. It was fun while it lasted.
how long have you been playing the game? as someone who got to m1 for the last 6 or so seasons, you will be very surprised how many bad players there are in the rank
M1 is where players play casually with their fun decks because there is no need to play competitively anymore, it doesn’t mean they’re bad players
Yeah it's like degenerate sweat tired decks up to m1 and then in master 1 it's almost impossible to get a good competitive game because people are playing pet decks or meme ftks.
I wish they actually played their pet deck cause then i'd be able to run my d/d/d / speedroid decks, all i play against is surrender turbo and stupid 100 step combo decks.
this made it very hard for me to farm the free (non-mission) random drop gems outside of events, thankfully this is no longer a thing with this new Elo system. hopefully the quality of the duels will not be dissimilar to the duelist cup.
He said in master not master 1
They said m1
That's true, but the grind wears you down. You need to devote a lot of time to get consistent M1. Especially if newer decks don't appeal to you. I haven't liked a new deck since Swordsoul.
I know you can grind it over the weekend, or 2 weekends if you're unlucky, but that's still a lot of time for me.
And it’s always some sky striker or lab player who play for 30 minutes jfc
I’ve played on and off since it came out. I dont play if I’m not enjoying it, and that means I don’t play the meta every season. It also means I stop if I lose too often which when playing CyDra, happens a lot.
Well, I'm really glad there's more to do after reaching Master 1.
Also, it only took them 2 and a half years to add an ELO system. Small indie company indeed.
looking forward to them adding a streamer mode in another 2 and a half
Year 2035
Games companies have peer to peer VR
Konami: implements live streaming of matches
Gotta hide that minimap, or stream snipers will see Ash Blossom coming up the river for a gank
Ash camping top FF15
Bro they first picked max c into their opener, it’s fucked.
What is the point of a streamer mode tho…
For streamers to be able to play with their viewers without having to worry about them cheating by looking at their hand on stream
…bro what? How is a streamer mode gonna hide the cards from the stream… that’s not even what streamer mode is in other games….
I've seen games with streamer options that put sensitive stuff like passwords on another window. So as long as you're streaming the game and not just your desktop, everything meant to be hidden stays hidden.
That would not work for yugioh. The streamer would also have to have no clue what they are playing
Most digital card games like HS and LoR has it at launch, don’t know why it took them so long.
most games have more than one way to play the game at launch too.. yet here we are :)
Not worth implementing unless it made them money, I assume execs figure adding it now would increase player retention or smthn
they could keepo new players by not having shit banlists and releasing overly oppressive archetypes that make going first so oppressive that u basically have another set of meta for going second to deal with the oppressive going first board and that's all the 2 things you can play or u might as well just not bother.
You have to understand that most of those problems are problems with ygo in general, not just master duel. Also no body is forcing you to play ranked in diamond and master ranks, and there are almost no problems like that in lower ranks. You could also play casual(alltough it sucks)
conservative japanese company they are famously known for being inflexible
I'm sure it was there behind the scenes, but they hid it for some reason.
These mfers had Plat as the highest rank for several seasons. I'm surprised they get around to anything for competitive.
Konami just always has to be the oddball for some reason
because Konami, you know
I wonder how long It'll take for us to be allowed to save more than 10 replays.
Just like Gamefreak & the Pokemon franchise.
no more forfeiting just because you didn't win the coin flip
need tenpai to release already
What do we do with those numbers anyway. Best is to capture the screen and share with fren. Bet nothing will change much.
It changes for people who want a competitive match after hitting M1.
I hope we can do our dailies with these as well
They are not a separate game mode
Or am I reading that wrong?
It is a separate mode. Once you reach Master 1, it unlocks Rating Duels, which will be a different queue than Ranked mode
Oh? So it's just for people who play a ton, since after reaching M1 duels become pretty lame (I even faced people using Stun ._.).
Right, it's a way to keep having competitive play with people generally around your skill level
It says you cant earn rewards through the ELO matches, cept for titles. Not sure if that includes dailies, but here's hoping 🤞
Dailies will def be doable, they probably mean rewards ontop for high how you place
No rewards wtf? At least the after game rewards should be there. Why would you want to play this instead if not?
I’m guessing you still get your dailies just nothing on top like you do in regular ranked for climbing up a rank
I’ve been saying this in every feedback form since day 1
Master 1 is complete garbage. It takes 3 hours just to finish dailies
Really though all of master should be ELO. 5 win 5 loss ladder resetting monthly is trash
MD should handle dailies the same way DL handles weekly missions: u can accomplish them by either playing in ranked OR vs npcs (or in MDs case the equivalent would be solo mode.)
100%
Yeah and it feels bad when you don't have time to grind put master in the month because you have a life you get sent back to plat lol
Long awaited feature that should've been there on release.
Finally, the MD Grinder can show "high-rated" duels.
Now I can actually go to Master 1 and not have to worry about not being able to do my dailies because everyone'll surrender the moment I do anything. I don't usually get to M1 (just not dedicated enough, I can otherwise reach it if I cared enough to do so), but it'll be nice on the seasons where I do get there.
That's very nice indeed. But why are you explaining to us: "I can otherwise reach it if I cared enough"? Did someone say you would not be able to? Or do you want to get rid of any potential doubts of the random reddit strangers pre-emptively? Don't worry about stuff like that, mate. Nobody is doubting you, kay?🙂👍
Lmaooo
A few things to keep in mind:
- A rating system does not mean an Elo rating system. An Elo rating system is a very specific thing where the points work in specific ways. Just because they give you a point system and match you up with someone of equal-ish points does not make it an Elo rating system.
- Applies only to Master 1. This means that the pool of actual players is going to be very, very small.
- There are no special rewards.
I'd say this is a step in the right direction, at least, but it's definitely just that: a single step.
As a mostly casual type (as in, not dedicated enough to put up with the grind, and not interested in chasing the meta, but also skilled) I personally feel that the following system would work best for everyone:
• De-ranking should be removed entirely, and/or promotions at higher levels should be based on a flat number of wins, regardless of streaks, just like lower levels. Preferably both.
• Seasonal resets should place everybody above a certain level back into the same level as each other, ideally Gold or Platinum.
• There should be a Leaderboard for how quickly players reach the highest level, and/or one for how flawlessly players do so, based on win/loss ratios. Again, both would be ideal.
•A leaderboard to show how well players performed at the highest level. This point, of course, is now obsolete, as they're apparently going to implement precisely such a system.
Implementing all of these systems together would strike a near-perfect balance between casual players and competitive ones while enhancing the rewards and the overall experience for everyone. It would also eliminate the incentive AND the ability to camp at lower levels.
The reason there’s no rewards, likely because of elo boosting. Even just for shiny icons, border and card sleeves, it’s worth the price just for the brag, LoL is the big example for this.
Who is down voting you lol.
Heh, ironic
I'm convinced there is no logic or reasoning when it comes to downvotes on reddit. It's completely random. Not worth to worry about.
No one is
Historically when he created the comment it was - 2
"There are no rewards for Rating Duels."
Not that I have extra motivation then.
If they gave rewards this sub woukd cry like they do for duelist cup that gems are locked behind high lvl skill requirements or whatever
Masochist account stonks are like a rollercoaster. Free structures and loaners are the drop, but this will definitely help. Even if it is just for e-peen, that a grind exists at all will incentivize more people to push their ranking.
Actual motivation to play after hitting diamond now and get master.
damn, kinda nice but kinda sweaty
wonder if i'll get m1 fast again
Lol? So many comments about "no reward"?
Its a rating system like Chess where it allows people to test their knowledge and skill to the absolute limit.
Its literally the best reward for all players as grinder can just go climb their elo while casuals play their respective rank & content creators can finally showcase their rogue creativity without being heldback by lack of decent opponent & lots of quitters at previous Master 1.
You just know if they had a reward people in this sub would complain it’s too difficult or time consuming to reach n annoying
Meanwhile PS servers still suck
About time.
About time.
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Every month
And it only took Konami 2 years to implement a leaderboard. What other basic thing is going to take 2 years I wonder
So rating is just a fancy new casual mode?
Honestly would have preferred King of Games or Grandmaster ranks for more gems, but I guess this is ok
They should have chess-ified the entire rating system. The current ranked system requires you to play a lot of matches, and lets you reach a decent rank even if you are not really good at the game, a rating for all players would better show their skill level.
So they can do this but not put in a game mode that periodically rotates between past events? Disappointing.
Hopefully this will stop some people from camping low ranks and Plat to farm newbies.
Seeing a new player getting nuked by lv35++ players/alt account in Plat with their full power FKSE/R-Ace is just sad. Some of these players even know how to play their deck optimally.
People don't exactly stay in low ranks because of the lack of an ELO system.
Ik it definitely won't affect everyone, but I believe some people play with their alt or deranked to low rank because they can't finish their dailies easily in M1.
This prob wouldn't completely fix the problem, but I hope it kinda gives some players a reason to actually climb.
Nice now just need a king of games rank
I've looked through all 120 comments (at the moment) and seen a lot of complaints, but not a single one had anything positive in it, even though a lot of people have wanted this. The best I've seen is something like "Finally, should have been here since day one." At this point, I'm sure most of you are just here to bitch around.
With all due respect and separating you from the group that I mention to those who have treated me well here.
Of all the reddits I've been to, this is one of the most miserable and with many bitter people who are not happy no matter the situation.
Could have atleast used the opportunity to have this count for next year's WCS. Also be prepared to have long waiting times, not a lot of people are gonna be on master 1.
I think even if they do that eventually, they would want to let it play out for a season first, watch for any major issues or exploits, then roll it into something meaningful once they're confident it works as intended. Stuff like the "Xbox with cross-play disabled" from the first duelist cup comes to mind.
fucking god finally
Omg a real ranked system instead if a glorified gem grind (although rating seasons should last more than a month)
When they say there are no rewards. I hope we can still get out daily rewards doing it
Good for the tryhards. I myself decided to stay away from Master months ago. The mental stress grinding was just too much
Im dumb. What's ELO?
You aren't dumb it's a good question. It's like a rating system they use to rank chess players and other similar activities
This is cool and nice that it's finally here but an elo system alone without a gxe to go alongside it doesn't mean much of anything
Finally...
Now the game has terminal cancer.
When is this live?
How many people are regularly reaching master I? I feel like if you’re doing that you’re using a super meta deck that everyone else is playing
What does ELO mean?
Electric Light Orchestra (I'm old)
Master 1 is fixed let's gooo. I can't wait for women to flock to me once they hear I'm a top 10 master duel ranker
Well Just hard stuck at Platinum 3 anyway
Petition to let us do missions in casual
I tried playing sky striker…. Every single game was against fire king snake eye….. literally 6 games in a row…. It’s miserable.
"Once you reach Master Rank Tier 1..."
And that's when I stopped reading
Wish they would’ve done this when I was M1 with nothing to do for like 10 months straight. Now my interest has waned so much my acct has decayed all the way down to silver & I don’t have enough time to grind M1 again. Great job Konami!
Bro if you were M1 you can get to Diamond in like 15 minutes
Best case scenario with like an 85% win rate it’s still like a 6 hour time sink minimum to get back to diamond then I have to grind thru fire meta in diamond/masters - I’d rather stick my hand in a wood chipper ngl
I was M1. You cannot get to Diamond in 15 minutes. That’s a severe exaggeration. Ofc you will win the vast majority of your games but it would take a lot longer.
Not 15 minutes, but still most matches will be short. Atleast till gold, most people scoop as soon as they see normal summon SNash.
Of course it's an exaggeration but the point is if you're playing a meta deck, getting to Master is trivial
Yeah unless ur a bad pilot
It’s trivial in the sense that it’s easy. It’s still somewhat long especially if you work long hours and can generally only play about 2 games a day. I guess tho not everyone is in my position and if you can play multiple games a day then it shouldn’t take too long.
Finally, after almost 3 years, they know how to make a proper competitive game. This is better than nothing.
this would be worth grinding if they banend the roach
Do u know how to spell ?
lots of people at master duels launch asked for a Legend system and this is great only issue is its in the middle of snake eyes format
It took them over 2 years to add this when people have been saying this since release lol
Because konami is now run by greedy....
And still no tag team mode
Now let's see more crying woooo
Those people struggle to even reach master
I mean I think it's neat and I don't go that high up. I'm glad there's a system in place to encourage high level players to make it higher up.
"There are no rewards" So what's the fucking point?
People that can reach M1 and then this ELO probably wouldn't care too much for rewards, just the ranking.
For master level players to have something to play for bragging rights
Epeen by being "high rated". The same as it is in most online games where people just care about having their name next to a number on a leader board.
For fun
WHY I CANT PLAY ON CONSOLE ANYMORE, IT ALWAYS DISCONNECT ME
Cool, hopefully they use this for worlds and not the absolute dumpster fire that is grinding for 72 hours straight.
Kinda relieved that there aren’t any rewards, I learned when I first got to Master 1 that I don’t really like tier 1 Yugioh.
My elo rank is 4th rated for sure hehe
Rank 42069 here I come!
I’m too tired to look up what an ELO system is right now, but this sounds like something else for more involved players than myself to exploit to fuck with matchmaking. 🤷♂️
ELO is a widely used way to evaluate player skill level in competitive games. You can basically consider it skill-based matchmaking.
This new system is a separate queue from regular Ranked that's only accessible to players that have already reached Master 1, so it has zero implications for the player base at large.
And it's actually applied properly here, as it's only meant for 1v1 games like chess or yu-gi-oh, instead of how it's normally used in every team based game where it's a mess and shouldn't be used because it's not meant for that.
Cool, I’ll probably never have to deal with it then. Thank you for the info.
I don't have the patience needed to get to Master Rank, so this is 100% dead content. Until the fix the fundamental flaws with the game (certain decks not getting the hits they need) it's just not worth the effort for bragging rights.
OK, how about adding B03 mode?
Goodbye to all pet decks
oh joy ranked 2
"there no reward" so why the fuck do i want to play this mode?? +
For fun
Gotta reward the whales and meta slaves with something I guess.
Konami's priority remains getting people addicted to the game through any possible means other than making it more fun to actually play through
This is just the standard for competitive games for the past decade.
As it was before, you'd hit Master 1 and then for more serious players, there was nothing to do anymore.
Now people who want to just hit Master 1 can do that and be done with it, but other players can push higher as you would in any other ranked game and reach for the top.
im pretty sure a lot of people asked for this and will have fun with this. "getting people addicted to the game" more like giving people a reason to play the game...
I'm not actually against this, I play Chess of all things
I think however there's more important shi they should be getting to
they add ranking in ranked.
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It just for people who play a lot and go future than the average Joe.
you will be complaining too if there are actual rewards ( gems ) because it's too hard and you can't get it without playing the best deck in the format. what a joke.
This is just ranked for bragging rights and hardcore duelists. It’s a good addition.
Fun isn't worth having if there isn't a skinner box attached
bo3 ?
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This is neat but I won’t ever need to worry about it since I suck at the game too much to make it to MR anyway, lol