How strong would this version of Big Deal have been?
DiscussionJake/gap Samuel/elite Olly/Tom Johan/Jinyoung
Yeah, gap fist
I think Samuel is more similar to Tom than Elite, because he's muscular and has high durability, but no one really resembles Elite
Nah olly is the one similar to Tom , while samuel has the business sence, ambition, and rivalry with jake/gap. He's clearly elite
I didn't think of his rivalry, that's smart
I mean it kinda makes sense cuz tom raised eli and now olly is tryna raise a new eli
Plus samuel is the one that rivals jake the most
pretty strong - i can see olly convincing eli to merge hostel into big deal via heather. daniel and the high schoolers would probably be invited too to resurrect the gapryong’s fist of old.
Heather probably wouldn’t have met Eli
Pretty OP
They still wouldn't be the strongest crew.
Johan is so strong that he's an entire crew alone. Olly could probably help merge Hostel and Big Deal as one crew. Now we have three major crews in one crew. They can probably beat workers. Johan beats Yuseong, and Jake beats Xialong, and sinu beats Ryuhei, and Jerry beats the other weak executives of 2A and 3A. Olly fights Mandeok and Eli fights Samuel, and then Jerry, Jake, and sinu will come to help them after they finish their opponent. They can also beat BH since we saw the four crew heads beating him before, and all they have to do is just stop his brother from reviving him. The only ones left would be fodders while the strong fighters are defeated.
I think your miss the fact that most of these characters only got strong for being in different crews.
Olly only joined the hostel because he had no where else to go. However it could be argued that Heater would of still ment Hostal (unlikely). Also Olly was only as strong as he was because of Guns training and his resent ment to Eil. Which he wouldn't have, which makes him much weaker.
Johan would also be much weaker. Johan only became a crew head to get money for his mums operation, and with Olly being rich he might of been able to pull a Jay, and pay for it. We are also forgetting he was much weaker then the other crew heads, because of bad hardware, which he only improved due to getting beaten by Gun.
With out that Johan probably would of stayed around Dog God arc level. Which is way below even Hanson now.
Same gose for Jake and Sinu. Jake only got that strong, because Sinu left and he only could train in prison because Gun. Sinu only got as strong as he did due to selling himself to the Workers and training.
Samuel was already going to leave no matter what, and with out the crew head fight would never off unlocked heat mod.
This crew would be good. But is now much weaker then even the 3rd affiliate.
Eli would still impregnate heather and cause her death, and he'd still leave, so Olly would still try to find Eli, so he'd train under Gun to become stronger and help Big Deal help him find Eli.
If Johan joins Big Deal, he'll eventually get as loyal to Sinu as the rest of the members, so he'll probably try to get stronger to be able to save Sinu. He didn't improve directly because he got beaten by Gun, he improved because he got the motivation to improve his hardware because he got beaten by Gun, so he'd most probably still try to get stronger if he realizes his weakness by something else, like losing to Xialong maybe.
Sinu would still sell himself and Jake would still get in prison. The addition of Johan and Olly won't prevent the Gun and Goo tragedy.
I already know Samuel would leave. I literally put him against Eli.
What kinda bullshit is this?as eugene stated or whoever it was "Johan is just one person,so he is easy to take care of".
Because he's comparing Johan to all the workers' power, rather than Johan to one person.
Nah,that version was Johan is gonna get his ass kicked by yuseong,ryuhei,sinu and taejin.
That's still a lot of people against one person
I meant each of them individually beats Johan,that version specifically.
Johan beats Yuseong tho? Wait what version are we talking about?
The summit meeting version. This timeline's johan wouldn't have been as strong as current Johan since he wouldn't have encountered ui Daniel in 3A so no fake ui. Without that he ain't beating yuseong.
There's the possibility that Jake asks him to go with him to find Sinu, and they still fight UI Daniel. It's only a chance tho because there are many good people to come with him
Not much different than the current big deal, they would have treated johan as a little kid to protect, they would've maybe helped take care of his mother and him and johan wouldn't have learned much in big deal. Olly would never be able to join big deal at that time but if he somehow joined he would've been problematic and jake would've had to kick him out eventually, his chances of meeting gun would also be low and suggesting any sort of system for crews at that. If big deal had taken both of them in then they would've had more problems but god dog and hostel wouldn't exist.
Strong, not sure if this Olly still went through Guns training or if Johan goes through all his solo hurdles to become One person army.
If yes, (cap to Hostel arc cuz Olly died there) very strong but 1A victim. If no, 2A or 3A victim.
If they are as strong as currently then it could possibly rival Workers, although WTJC alone is a little too strong
Olly will be shield and jake and Samuel will be the main fighter and johan will be there ace coping jake Samuel and probably sinu and also he can fight stronger opponent and copy them because if he lose he have a whole gang to protect him.
The downplay of play is real true he had 0 potential but he is literally hardwork mixed with crazy. Literally everyone in the hostel arc was weaker than olly. And he didn’t even learn the right fighting style for him. He had gun training for 3 years. He knows how to train so if he wanted to be stronger he would continue to grow.
I mean workers would be dead if they let them grow than,
Johan would kind of like become a fucking monster
The exact opposite. Johan is much weaker. One of Johan's main motivations is that he tries to fight against life on his own. This is another factor that makes him strong. In BigDeal, they don't push him that hard, he becomes more of a sweet child of the team.
No
I have my agenda
Biggest crew and strongest crew. Wouldve stamped out the workers
Smart enough to easily create a lot of money
Strong enough to easily rival workers
There would have been peace
Strong, but still Worker victim
Johan is so strong that he's an entire crew alone. Olly could probably help merge Hostel and Big Deal as one crew. Now we have three major crews in one crew. They can probably beat workers. Johan beats Yuseong, and Jake beats Xialong, and sinu beats Ryuhei, and Jerry beats the other weak executives of 2A and 3A. Olly fights Mandeok and Eli fights Samuel, and then Jerry, Jake, and sinu will come to help them after they finish their opponent. They can also beat BH since we saw the four crew heads beating him before, and all they have to do is just stop his brother from reviving him. The only ones left would be fodders while the strong fighters are defeated.
And also this version of Hostel doesn't have Epi and Warren. So this is just The hunt for Big Deal with Johan, Olly and Samuel. Worker with full strength ( ELi, Warren, BH) will still beat them
Olly can get Eli to merge Hostel with Big Deal, and then workers won't be able to get Eli and Warren with the rest of the members helping them. BH can be beaten as long as they actually use their brains and stop the doctor fron reviving him.
Yuseong beat Johan. Even after BE mode, Yuseong can still tanking Johan CQC and go on second round with Gun. Both will be down, but Yuseong will be the one to get up faster
After Yuseong is down, down extra big deal fodder can step in and finish the job. Other big deal members can help after they finish their opponents
Olly probably wouldnt be worth much without Gun's training and only really Johan would be the added bônus but even then having Johan would propel Big Deal to a bigger height
Olly would have added another layer of intelligence to the bunch
But Gun and Goo will still beat them and force them into the four crews, so Olly would still receive Gun's training
If we're still going by the timeline with them added then Olly wouldn't really train under Gun since Jake will agree to be part of the 4 crews so Olly doesnt really have anything to do something else
Eli will still mess with backdoor and get involved in the four crews, and heather will still get pregnant, so Eli will still leave, so Olly would still want to find him.
Ehh I can see Olly switching over to Jake after seeing how popular he is and shit with his freedom and power so maybe his interest in Eli will wane
Shit, but... Uhh... Eli is much cooler since Jake is such a goodie two shoes?
Johan is so strong that he's an entire crew alone. Olly could probably help merge Hostel and Big Deal as one crew. Now we have three major crews in one crew. They can probably beat workers. Johan beats Yuseong, and Jake beats Xialong, and sinu beats Ryuhei, and Jerry beats the other weak executives of 2A and 3A. Olly fights Mandeok and Eli fights Samuel, and then Jerry, Jake, and sinu will come to help them after they finish their opponent. They can also beat BH since we saw the four crew heads beating him before, and all they have to do is just stop his brother from reviving him. The only ones left would be fodders while the strong fighters are defeated.
It will be strong enough to be a more than just a major threat to the workers and even Charles himself. It's not cause of their combat abilities alone, but the terrifying amount of intelligence too.
Way weaker because they wouldn’t have gone through the same stuff that made them stronger.
Maybe Johan would’ve spam copied Sinu and gotten overpowered
It's pretty weak. Olly would remain his normal self and Johan would still be much weaker as he would have to fight less. The current BigDeal is much stronger.
Current power. Probably the strongest crew.
If they had the respective power at the time. Pretty weak.
Olly only got strong because he was shunned and enamoured by Eli and learned from gun. If he joined big deal, Jake already saw himself in Olly so he would probably treat him better than Eli did so Olly wouldn’t feel the need to find a family as badly.
Johans main reason for strength is first the money he wanted to get for his mom and then revenge against gun. Johan would still be really strong but nowhere near where he is right now cuz gun wouldn’t have dissolved GodDog.
Samuel is strong because of his hatred for himself but in this it shows him still there so it means he never found out that Jake was Gapryong real son. He would have never left for workers.
Jake, Sinu, olly, johan, samuel and jerry, above ui lil daniel probably.
Very strong