I’m a fighting game player learning league to learn about the champions coming to 2XKO, downplaying is rampant in the Fighting Game Community and I wanted to hear some examples from when you’ve done it or the funniest ones you’ve heard. It helps to give context to how strong they actually were and then the “excuse”/reason why they’re actually balanced.
If I mained Aphelios when he was broken, i would’ve been like nah he’s hard to play and some of the gun combos are useless
Tiktok says they can Camille e+w flash in their sleep
I tried it in the practice tool after reading about how hard it was on Reddit and Twitter and my gold ass was able to do it maybe 8/10 tries, then I did it in a bot game.
Obviously doing it in a real game is much harder (and actually having it be meaningful), but I do kinda feel like people were making the actual mechanic out to be harder than it is.
I'd expect Challenger players to be able to do it pretty consistently in real games. I also suspect Bin can actually hit it in his sleep lol
Are you referring to the normal e+flash? The one Bin did is e+flash+e. It’s the second e after the flash that’s difficult.
E flash alone is fucking impossible i legit cant do it (granted never tried in practice tool)
and i saw some camille mains saying they didnt even know that was possible
I don't think I understand, what's Bin?
He's a pro player in China who plays for BiliBili Gaming (BLG) in the top lane. He's well known for his Camille and Jax!
One of the best top laners in the world. He plays for BLG, the best team in China currently and was just in the finals of MSI. He's known for being arguably the best jax player(pro at least) and insane at things like camille, rumble, jayce, etc. Basically carries/split pushers.
Id say he's most known for camille, jax, gp, fiora. He was never really good at jayce, in fact, range champions has long been his biggest weakness, even more so than tanks and he only played rumble because it was meta.
I'd say definitely the best camille and jax player over the last few years. Last time we saw GP and Fiora in the meta, I personally thought breathe was probably a bit better at them, but bin would've been top 2.
I think you have to add renekton to that list for the last two splits, hes the only player I see actually justify that pick in game
369 has comfortably been the better renekton player basically bins entire career, don't let his somewhat weak showing his last 2 internationals trick you into thinking otherwise. He knows the limit of that champion better and has much more effectively been able to use it as a psuedo-frontliner to buy space for his carries.
Nah I disagree, watching Bin completely rewrote how I think about that champion. He'd get counterpicked with poppy and still dominate, 369 played weakside well but Bin would put the team on his back with renekton, like consistently getting crucial flanks
A pro player. Just had an amazing showing in the most recent international tournament.
Best top in the world
Can confirm
But my mains Camille and Gwen are literally as good as everyone thinks. Especially Camille is a fucking broken champ
As an adc main I love seeing a fed Camille because later on I know my health bar is gonna get deleted by a 900 true damage q :D
The problem with Camille imo is that her kit is fit for jungle not toplane
Looking at top and jgl bruisers, Top bruisers are either duelists like Jax/Fiora or juggernauts like Darius/Garen while jgl bruisers are divers like Heca, Rek'sai and Vi.
Camille has the mobility and catching potential of a diver not toplaner, besides her Q and maybe arguably passive everything else is diver-like.
Her R is literally a ganking a tool Her W and R are also catching tools.
Imo Camille E is top 3 strongest basic ability, the range is ridiculous, she can flash in the middle to increase the range/redirect. As a bonus it gives a ton of attack speed and stuns for a brief moment.
Yeah bring back Camille jungle and you'll realize VERY quickly why she was removed from it
Camille in top lane? Actual mechanics, things to play around
Camile in jungle? I'm gonna last hit this minion, oh and she just stunned me from fog of war and she ulted me, so now I'm dead. Wow great gameplay, my flash was down so I died.
Yeah, I mean, you're totally right, but that's the thing: she's currently OP in toplane. So with a kit designed for a different lane, she's still OP. If they made her jungle viable, she'd be insane in the jungle.
And, it's obviously not just 'having a jungle kit' that makes her OP, or you'd see all sorts of junglers OP in the toplane.
You're just really into scissors
how is a bird this fucking slow?
The fact it can flap its wings when it's entirely made of ice is already a miracle.
Giving control mages mobility isn’t a good idea
Riot really opened Pandora's box by giving Azir a dash and they can't close it again. A big part of why competitive has spammed corki azir is they are the only two champions with magic damage dps and a dash.
A massive dash too.
Asols is way stronger though, at least Azir dash has some counterplay (just stand in front of him).
If you don't have hard cc, good luck killing asol.
def dont disagree lol its just kinda funny
Really though lets quit with the lie that movement speed is really a form of "mobility" when we literally have champs that can jump from one lane to the next, or hop longer than the longest attack range instantly.
Giving decent ms for immobile champs should be the baseline, the ones that should move slowly are the ones with mobility spells
Smolder learned to fly faster then Anivia that has thousand years old
He's young and sprightly you try running around with 1k years of arthritis
Because ice slows things down and she's made of ice. QED.
Quinn is fast as fuck??
I think they mean Anivia lol.
Valor. Quinn is pretty nimble but not as much as the birb
It’s cause she’s made outta ice mate.
Either you solo win game before 15 or your team plays rest of the game 4v5
Average Zoe experience
preach brother
I'd go 5-0 before 15 and still lose once opponents builds mercs
TF is a weak ass bitch and literally anyone can follow him into river and whoop his ass making his ultimate a 5 second ward.
It's akschually 6/8/10 seconds☝️☝️🤓🤓
Fr doe, TF struggles cause of how team reliant he is. The ult utility is incredibly strong. And likewise, gold card provides amazing gank set-ups, especially for champs like Rek'sai, Taliyah or Bel'veth.
But that doesn't really help when your jungler is a lobotomy patient and your sidelanes don't understand that you offer incredible roams with your ult
TF top looks good in pro, but in soloq once you've taken that first turret you're now in an uncomfortably long lane vs champs like darius and tryndamere with ghost. Doesn't really work well without your jungler hovering you.
Also pro teams can draft around TF. Where as in solo queue you most likely fked your team comp by having no frontline and being another resource drain that needs items.
dont forget the fact that if your teammate loses a 1v3 he will still an expect an ult to help despite what your current situation looks like.
Broo Gold elo players see MSI and pick TF top in my ranked games.. then they proceed to not even try push side lanes do nothing and lose the game.. so frustrating
It's always free food when he is the enemy team tough :)
TF is insanely macro dependent when he isn't busted. It's why Dopa plays him.
Idk man, movement speed stacking TF makes my blood boil. Sure his damage is a bit low but he gets to pick every single fight and you are not hitting a skillshot on someone with 400+ (490 later) movement speed if they are good.
Until you hit midgame as ad tf, stun them with point and click cc for 1 second, and auto them to death.
Singed: The new patch just kinda fucked him.
Zilean: Everyone and their mother knows this champ is broken. I can't in my right mind make an argument for him not being as good as everyone knows he is, but I'll try. He's... overly team reliant, I guess?
Zilean struggles with having dog shit animations, skins and voicelines. I end up doing dumb shit when I play him because I just get bored also no one uses his R correctly when you apply it because they’re not used to having it in their games.
Are you kidding me???
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Modern day philosopher
I mean Zilean should never win a straight up fight, but it’s like the knowledge of “he has a revive I need to play like I’m fighting two healthbars” drains out of everyone’s heads when they see you at 300 health.
It’s funny just E’ing past the enemy mid lane who wants to do a river fight to get to the jungle brawl as if they’re not even there though.
We have no waveclear :(
Thresh used to be the jack-of-all-trades support. Now, he just sucks at everything
That would require other people to think she's good. I don't think I've seen a single other person play Nilah since her release.
So screw it, I'm doing the opposite!
She renders any champ trying to force fights in lane useless with an on command dodge for not just herself, but her lane partner. She scales harder, better, and faster than any other ADC in the game with the free exp from her passive, and free stats from her Q, and her sustain as she gets later in the game is unparalleled in her role.
Even her 'weakness' isn't all that, as her melee range is largely negated by her 600 range Q.
Seriously, more people need to play her, she's great.
I know she's turbobroken since release but she just doesn't feel good to play tbh
Pretty much this for me. When i play jhin, his gameplay and animations are very fluid and satisfying. When i flank and spaceglide an enemy team with runaan's twitch, It is satisfying. When i play samira and watch her fluid animations build up to an S combo, it is satisfying and fluid.
Nilah just doesnt have that. Her e is very jumpy and stops instantly compared to samira who slides past. Her autos dont feel satisfying to hit unlike jhin whose autos hit dopamine every time. Her ult just doesnt have that satisfying gameplay to it since its just e-flash into 5 people and either 1 shot them or die. Twitch on the other hand turns his autos into fuckin ballista shots and you can just unleash hellfire onto them all.
If they made her more fluid and less jumpy-adhd brained then she would probably be more popular
Base skin Nilah E and R colors are very meh.. its almost transparent.. you don't feel like you're casting and ability.
Yeah, first time I played her I was throwing stuff and wondering if it actually cast or not. Like her W animation is so hard to notice while you are kiting, looking at enemy spells thrown at you, your CDs, where to click...
Samira feels way more fluid as her animations are BIG so that they are noticeable, but Nilah's ones are small, semi-transparent and last for like half a second, it is so hard to be aware of what you are doing when playing her
As a main support, I absolutely HATE landing with JHIN he’s so terrible.(I’m super aggro)
Support lands CC > I miss W, I’m out of ammo, I stand there awkwardly trying to reload while my support glares at me, we die.
The reason she isn't fluid for you is because you aren't canceling her animations. She was absolutely designed to have her animations canceled with her autos.
I'm surprised you talk about Jhin for fluidity. He's easily the clunkiest champion in the game for me, both kit and gameplay wise. None of his abilities feels like they're from the same champion, and his awkward, restrictive auto attacks make him painful to play.
Half his kit wants him miles from the fight to throw in high range abilities, which makes sense with how immobile he is, feeling more like an AD Xerath, but the rest of his kit wants him in close range to land his executing autos and bouncing bomb thing.
That lack of mobility makes transitioning between those states feel equally alien. Even with the autos, where most of his damage is supposed to come from, only a quarter of them deal damage, with any sort of armor rendering the first 3 attacks useless. Add in the fact that he doesn't have the sustained damage that every ADC can output and he just doesn't seem to do anything to me. He feels like he's trying to be an assassin, but without any of the resources needed to facilitate assassinations.
On the other hand, all of Nilah's abilities feel like they flow into one another. You E into your Q, into your W into your R, setting up for huge damage, sustain, and mobility. Everything feels like it intelligently follows on from something else. Her theming is intentionally very water based, and that is paralleled by the flow of her gameplay. She also comes with that sense of inevitability. Eventually, the dam will break, and you will be unstoppable. She just feels good to play, both on the micro and macro levels.
Obviously, I'm massively biased because I love this champion, but imo, she's one of the best feeling champions in the game.
Jhin feels very fluid because of his fixed attack speed for me. You auto and get a little time to move and position for the next shot or throw an ability, making each shot more satisfying. His q and e can combo into his w, making it satisfying to set up either ability and get the root into 4th shot. His ult is also satisfying to land shot after shot and chunk people down.
Tonight i had a match against a fed af aatrox and i proceeded to kite him for like 20 seconds because of my 4 shots mechanic and eventually killed him because ghost let me dodge his q sweetspots
Meanwhile nilah e feels like it goes way too fast and then stops instantly and her q is very snappy (yeah its a whip but still)
I'd say her e is definitely pretty clunky. I agree her abilities flow into one another nicely imo but the e is nowhere near as smooth as samira's
I played one aram with her and while I didn’t feed it just didn’t feel right. Her kit is good but idk something just was off.
I love playing nilah, kind of glad she’s low pickrate because I think there’d be some big nerfs/ban rates if she got more popular
Having previously mained both Rell and Tahm Kench as my support picks pre-rework, I am terrified when my mains have low pick rates. I don't know if I could handle another of my mains getting reworked.
I think nilah has low pick rate because she’s so different than other marksman, it’s not an issue with role or abilities so hopefully no rework in the near future
ASol, and Rell were also both very different from other champs in their roles, and we know how that went
I really enjoyed Nilah last patch because traditional adc's felt weak while she had both crazy late game dmg and nutty sustain. Now though with every adc having crazy dmg and her scaling having been nerfed she feels like shes on equal footing which just doesnt feel good from a late game hyper carry that requires being in melee/ish range.
I'm permabanning her whenever i play ADC.
I'd rather get run down by Draven than having her whole team dodge my autos.
As long as people remembers she exists, I'm happy <3
im convinced the entire reason Nilah isn't perm banned is simply because she's rarely picked if she was picked more i would ban her every single game to never see the light of day just like i would perma ban fizz when i play mid if not for the fact that he's rarely played better be happy she's not that popular (yet)
I didn’t even know it applied to other champs until this thread
I play some Nilah in ARAM, she seems very hard but really fun and cool, I feel really week with her though(I’m bad tho lol)
my issue with her is that she's not your traditional adc so you can't fall back on ur adc skills. Niche adcs will always be for a special kind of audience, probably not made for your favourite adc main.
I used to one trick Trist. Played against Nilah once, and perma banned her for the next six months.
Missed oportunity to say that she scales "harder, better, faster, stronger"
Zyra.
The higher rank you get the more people instagib plants or avoid chokepoints. Her lane is still great but there's a lot more rng in passive seed placement than people think.
Also being omega slow and squishy feels mega outdated for how little damage she does.
It's so crazy to me how ez her plants are to kill & how few people seem to realize this lol
As a support Sion main, I always allow Zyra to give me her plants for +4 HP. The more plants she spawns, the happier I am. ;) Sometimes I get baited since I always try to last hit them even late game...
Wtf she deals a metric fuckton of damage.
How little damage she does? She can miss every ability and just get a plant to spawn near you and still do 20% of your HP between burn and support item
Take a while to learn the rotations and even if you learn him riot won’t let him be good in solo queue
He’s actually really good in soloq right now! But it is a lot easier to play him when your team cares about you being alive.
That rarely happens in soloQ
An Aphelios brother in arms
Shyvana.
She's simple to play but before, during and after every game, you will be left wondering whether you built the right items on her. Her whole playstyle is literally what you choose to build on her.
But then again, no one thinks she is actually good.
I feel like I've seen so many comments that still think she has the nuclear blast 1 shot capability she used to lol
The build options really is the best & worst thing bout her
My main is Ryze. He's not as good as everyone thinks because no one thinks about him. Ever
I forgot ryze existed until you mentioned him
made my day
That's what makes him so good though. People aren't ready to deal with a Ryze. Ever.
Goes for every roaming mid: shove them in, and be mindful of your backs so they get as little times to roam as possible
I know, when my ADC sees a Bard he thinks "wow, I am gonna have heals, engage, disengage, a tunnel to escape hairy situations..." and my jungler thinks "wow, I am gonna have a roaming partner, we are gonna get every objective in the map, all crabs are mine, duo gank mid, ots gonna be a great game" syke bitch, I am moving only for chymes and the heals are for me alone. Botlane? What is that, I am a map roamer, my ult you say? I am saving it for when we are pressing all our ults so I can save the enemy team. Either that or I am God incarnate ult 5 enemies late and we win no matter how bad we were until then (but most likely I am unintentionally wintrading).
Rell cooldowns are wayyy longer than people think
You wanna know how to turn Zoe into a caster minion? Buy Merc treads. Buy any MR item really but especially Merc treads. Now her EQ combo does way less damage and she can't chunk you hard enough to all in with ignite. You can then proceed to kick the shit out of her while she waits 9 years for cooldowns
When your q key isnt working them you cant play him anymore
My main is really, really good. Actually, she's probably the best in her function. People just don't really get that she will be very less useful outside the situations she thrive.
My poor main. Everyone refers to him as a windshitter. He's either super buffed or nerfed to where he is not fun to play, yet I love him.
He plays as if he's an adc but he's melee. Easy to kill. Scales like shit. Countered by a bunch of champions.
People hate you.
You hate yourself.
Yet this beautiful son of a biscuit is the best thing about league.
I could literally farm all day on him with static and not get bored.
Play him and everyone from your teammates to your opponents dog you
Whether you're talking about yone or yasuo, easy to kill is just cap.
Yas is an easy kill whenever people scale. Especially if not minions around
Yeah seriously, maybe easy to kill if the yas player doesn't have hands.
Just buy 1 MR item and my main is done for XD
My main (Zilean) actually is that good. But hes so unpopular that it doesnt even matter so riot wont nerf him. Im not just saying that either, they have actually admitted this.
If i had to say whats bad about him that people think is good i guess itd have to be his survivability. While yes you can't killean the Zilean because of his R, its a huge win if you make him use it on himself. Great Zileans will make it so they never need to R themselves because not having it up is such a disadvantage for him.
Other than that, he probably has the weakest level 1 in the entire game. Yes weaker than aphelios. At least aphelios can choose to have range or heal himself. Zilean just gets a bomb that does no damage, is impossible to hit reliably, and only explodes after a timer.
Morgana is trash with a trash kit that revolves around landing your Q, which is the slowest most shittiest skill shot in the game which your gonna land once every leap year
And when you hit it, it feels like a leap year goes by before the stun wears off! IMO Morgana Q is a bit like Blitzcrank Q in that lots of the kit's power is loaded into the one ability.
The thing with blitz is that his kit and abilities work as seperate abilities. Morganas kit is so clunky and weird when you cant land Q’s, and she provides little to no value if she misses her Q. Her W is honestly useless as support if your not landing Q’s, her E is okay, but the idea is to shield yourself and then go for an ult. Which is just stupid considering it doesnt block Ad and she can just be gunned down. Her ult is only really usefull when its used on 1-2 targets unless you wanna flash and ult the entire enemy team, in which you need zhonyas which is expensive as shit. Not to mention that a lot of champions have dashes.
Thing is a 3 sec root on a slow ass ability thats easy to dodge, does not make up for the fact that morgana is a bad and outdated champion that desperetly needs a rework to work in modern League. She is both annoying to play with and against. Someone save my girl morg
Honestly for Morgana "match" blitzcrank they would have to move her W into Q (like they did with malz r, zone on the ground used to be its own ability). That would allow morg to get a mobility spell on W so she can better fish for dark bindings.
So Q hits a target = pool appears around the rooted target.
Hwei fear is slower and like half the size, there are far worse things than Morg Q. I wish my skillshots were the size of a truck
My main can win lane up until level 6 ; then if I press R i walk back to my turret with one plate left if I am lucky and am now 20cs down
The worst part is that my mate flashed out while i was ulting so i dont even have an assist
you can literally grow a pair and contest GP barrels
you can take dshield+second wind and he will run out of mana before youre low from his Q poke
his E is high cd and he only gets 3 barrels in lane, so all it takes is you growing a pair, contesting at least 50% of barrels, then you can just permanently zone him off waves because his base stats are inferior to most other champions (hes squishy with no mobility spells, and he has to use passive to last hit, if he saves it to zone he will lose cs)
Uhh.. Janna isn't op because.. yea i got nothing she's op
Without my turrets I’m a minion that can use chat
Can't, they kinda are
the box takes like half a century to actually proc
Hardest counter is 1. Any form of dash or mobility to dodge Swains slow ass projectiles and 2. Literally just walk away from the ult, it's free.
My plants have absolute dogshit ap scaling I fall off a cliff after the 2nd item
illaoi is trash when she misses E. enemy jg comes help? double kill. own jungle comes help? double kill for enemy top lane
I channel my inner blindness into my Q
If you right click me level 1, I lose. (Unless you follow into turret)
My main isn’t good because I’m not MadLife
Ww one trick. Maining it for over a decade. Fun champ. But oh my god its shit. I stress i time everything and it feels like a cointoss. Then i pick some random ass "high skill cap" champ like akali or leblanc, button mush and get free kills. And im like wtf, how is the game so easy, and when i play my main i sweat for a cointoss
Lux suffers for her cool big laser by being a squishy champ with no mobility where every single one of her buttons is a skill shot. It's pretty straightforward, all the artillery mages are kinda like that except Ziggs.
Milio: he is a strong support, insane mid/late pressure and game changing ult (freeing your adc from malz ult etc). But there is no early AND if your adc tilts it's really hard to affect others lanes, because his kit is made around range-ad. When their bot has early lead and their supp roams you can't catch up, cuz you are bounded to your ad-carry.
magic resist too efficient to go full ap so have to go cringe offtank build that gets outranged
Ziggs literally has 100% skill shots in his kit which can be dodged in different ways
Morgana Q is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow
Man, Cassio isn't that strong, it's just that people stand in her Miasma too long, or look at her when she ults. It's just that no one knows how to play against her. (I think that's the most common thing I see people say in the FGC)
Hur dur dur people stand in my Miasma for too long. Please don't check LoL Wiki to see that my Miasma slows for 80 fucking percent at max rank.
Cassio ult is completely reasonable tbh, but man, fuck that Miasma ability in the ear lol. 0 counterplay cancer.
They either give her way too much space and let her poke or go in when they absolutely shouldn't. It's like most people don't know how to bait colldowns.
people stand in her Miasma too long
It could be the fact that you can't dash out of it and also you're slowed while inside of it, I don't know tho, people are probably just bad and willingly stand in it! XDDDDDD
Yup, matchup knowledge is definitely one of the top reasons people give
Was one of my mains when I played mid. Now that I play Top she is a super strong pocket pick against some champions. People have no clue how to play against her lol
Shaco, way too unreliable. Either you get ahead early and are able to oneshot carries or you're utterly useless.
Vanguard exists
I main Mid and ADC.
I can't find any Weakness for my Mid Mains (Akali, Galio, Swain, Taliyah) but if I think of ADC all I can say is they die fast if the Position poorly.
Your weakness is malzahar, kassadin, and jst about any control or burst mage.
Malzahar counters most of your mains.
Becuz gl against good malz mains, they can't be touched in lane.
I main Asol and Kayle. Asol is fine tbh. Kayle on the other hand not so much. Early game feels awful to play and you have nothing really to work with to trade. Even late game her itemization leaves her fragile.
Zed is that guy who's trying so hard to look scary/menacing, but he actually hit like a wet noodle.
Dude's might do some fancy ass moves, throwing his shuriken, swap himself with his shadow clone, yada yada, but at the end he still doesn't do enough damage.
Dude's an Assassin, but most likely will get himself assassinated when he try to jump on their ADC.
If you don't believe me, a Rioter even confirmed that Zed is in fact bad and they'll keep him bad forever. (coz fck his playerbase am I right?)
There's a reason why picking Zed is considered inting in higher elo. He's a champion for those who give no fuck bout their winrate and just want to roleplay as edgy ninja on the rift while ruining their entire team winrate.
Flare...
my main has 3 dashes but the scaling and damege is none existant a pyke has higer kill threat
Well my main is good but not that good the reason he seems op is that nobody knows the matchup and when he can kill you (kled)
You'd think a demonic bear would do more than slap someone around for little damage
Mordekaiser
Whenever i go for Q/E it feels like a year passes before it deals damage. His hitbox is that of a fucking brickwall so he can't dodge and he is slower than mf sion, who is missing a leg.
Remember, passive +rylai's and dont use e
Real. Also i find it funny that kaizermorde reached grandmaster through spellbook. Mf spellbook. And it only works because of the guaranteed kill of min 6.
My main isn’t as good as everyone thinks because he has 2 skillshots and 0 mobility, but when I hit all my Skills then you should be worried
Only champion that loses to Mini Gnar's base HP and HP growth per level is Yuumi.
His boomerang cooldown is very long pre-6.
Given how bad your base stats are, you rely a lot on items. If you fall behind early your team will play a 4v5 unless game drags long enough to recover.
Jhin is great, but people playing with him have to understand that he's got a U-shaped power curve. He's extremely strong in the early game (esp. levels 1-3), not least of which because his 4th shot's guaranteed crit and %missingHP damage does some serious work. If his support is bold and willing to take fights, Jhin can clean up and start snowballing hard.
If he's not snowballing, he plays a lot more like an AD caster/supporting mage in the midgame; he can try to pick people off but his main strength is in catching people out with his W and ult. His traps also provide a surprising amount of utility with their vision control on the map and slows during teamfights. Importantly, if he's not snowballing then he's among the weakest of the ADCs at this point. He can't one-shot anyone, can't really duel, and doesn't have a lot of teamfight power.
Once he gets 3+ items and past level ~11, he starts scaling up really hard, since all that synergy between his passive scaling and items start ramping up. Once he gets to lategame he can one-tap people and clean up hard, but he has to get there, and that takes time.
His mega form should make him strong but instead 90% of the time mini is better, he has a dash but it's slow and has a high cooldown, he has range but not enough, if you catch him he explode, he is really fast and annoyng but his aa early don't do shit if you have d-shield & second wind, his mini has no waweclear, he doesn't have mana so there is that. In pro play he is very good, i am not a pro and neither are my teammates.
Is this about gnar?
A big man with even bigger mobility issues. Every time you miss your E you gotta take a walk of shame where the enemy can hit you in the back of the head and there is fuckall you can do, each missed Q means you lose half of your damage early. A low elo stomper who stuggles against any tank that is smart enough to not spoon feed him and get to sunfire. Supposed to be a juggernaut but is actually farily squishy, can carry teamfights but if his summonerspells are on cooldown he's a nobody. Has a lot of strong things about him but also clear and big weaknesses... and is satisfying as fuck to play.
my main isnt as good because she can basically only waveclear after 30min and nothing else.
Annie: She has 0 range, and during laning phase her entire Q-W-auto-electrocute combo does less damage then most champions basic poke ability. Dying to her in lane requires you to be dramatically out of position 3 times in a row.
Lillia: She's hard countered by like 60% of the cast. Every single displacement immunity, intangible, CC removal, unstoppable, range block, etc will make her ult worthless. If you can't hard counter that way, any form of dash will put you in a position where she can't follow up.
Zoe: She has to hit her E, and ult Q, to do as much damage as the point and click Annie Q. Any ally (including minions) being nearby renders her useless.
I mean, the ult is global and might be good at clutching teamfights but man my split push power is dogshit
Ashe/Kog: Way too squishy. They just get bursted by everyone and their dog.
Kind of the reverse issue for me. I have a rotation of various champs I like to play in each role that's more based on fun with a splash of being surprisingly strong because they're off meta. Usually ends up with me being flamed for picking such a "weak champ" because I have to play safe early to hit my power spikes then transition into being a menace to humanity, society, and everything in between. Example being last night a friend and I played two games of Viktor Pyke in the bot lane. First game was to see if its still as effective as it was last patch. The answer was a resounding Yes where I went 14/3/10 w/ 46k dmg at 31mins. At least half of the assists were Pyke ults that gave me gold. Closest to me in dmg was the enemy 6/1/2 lux mid that did 26k dmg. Everyone else in the game did less than 15k dmg. (Our matchup was against a Tristana Yuumi so pretty good matchup for us honestly)
Very next game we get a nocturne jgl complaining right out the gate because he tries to gank at level 3 into a lux/draven and complains that we threw the game at champ select because we chose champions with "no dmg". Then it was just him complaining until around the time i completed my second item and started doing viktor things. He got weirdly quiet when i was able to 1v1 the fed darius that was 3 levels up on me and taking inhib tower at 17mins. We won at 30mins where i dealt 44k dmg (13/5/6) to our nocturnes 19k (5/7/9). Darius did 36k (16/6/1), they're Voli did 20k and our Diana did 31k. Everyone else less than 15k.
Nilah cuz she's bs in the meta rn. Nerfed her late game hard two patches ago and now that the meta is full of enchanters and control mages she's basically not a champ anymore. If there's a single control mage in a nilah's game don't even bother the game will be hell for you unless you r omega giga fed. Anyways she defo needs some mini buffs to help her in the meta a bit more. Btw just cuz she has a seemingly good winrate in u.gg doesn't mean she's good. Her winrate is inflated by otps her actual winrate is around 48 - 49% which is horribly bad for a counterpick champ.
Well firstly then vladimir he has very short range doesnt offer any utility no stuns etc and ppl who say "he has slow on e" stfu what the hell is that slow. He doesnt have mana and since that is the case he doesnt get to build the most op mage items. Another one is sett he is as strong as ppl think of him like sometimes I wonder how does riot make a champ as perfect as him
Best one I heard was when Yuumi was the most op champ and people would say she is so broken they get bored of how easy playing it is so they start playing dumb on purpose to make it more fun
The fast runs out and you end up like bambi's mom
2 of the champs I enjoy a lot, got hit hard by the essence reaver change.
Kindred requires your team to use their brains more than once per game, meaning she will never hit more than 80% of her effectiveness no matter how good you are at playing her
Zeri lost a significant amount of her innate speed and is no longer a haha funny permanent 600ms champ, she's not a balance nightmare anymore like so many people seem to think she still is, she's actually been in a solid spot for a good while now.
Irelia isn't a giga OP champ with zero counters, people just pick bad matchups then play like ass with zero respect for her capabilities and then blame it on riot's champ design. Play lane bullies or pick scaling champs and don't feed, and she's made close to irrelevant.
I play Cam lmao she is as good as you think
Stop killing my wife :c
Sejuani's W damage was shifted into HP Scaling so now it's a Heartsteel rush instead of actually good items. A tragedy
Ashe is not as good as everyone thinks she is because every year slows become less and less valuable due to more and more dashes and cc immunities. Her ultimate is what she uses to deal with those people but it increasingly isn't enough as time goes on.
Phreak didn’t buy a pink ward and got stomped by an invisible mouse. So the mouse got deleted from league of legends.
My main was Lillia and she’s trash cuz I play her top lane. Globally she had 40% win rate, <0.1% pick rate
Hwei is really good rn but honestly people get slapped by him in lane and assume he's that strong the whole game. Really his laning is arguably his strongest point so just don't play like an idiot in lane and make proactive plays during mid game
Briar is the worst champion. You literally lose control of the champion.
Because if you miss skills or never auto you’re making it 6v4
Yasuo. I get that he is hated but god damn did they gut the items for him. Its not possible to get all the stata he needs with 2 items
Well riot did kill my champ… twice (in game)
Some people still think Smolder is some auto win champion when in reality he's a glorified minion pre 225, becomes a champion at 225 and finally becomes a threat around 350 stacks.
Playing smolder comes down to whether or not your team smurfs the enemy team or if the enemy team is just bad so the game goes on long enough for you to get stacks lol.
I play him just because he's a dragon.
I'm not canyon and they fucked up the best skin with the vsu update. monk out
Thank you for writing my future downplay in more detail
Midgame team fight monster isn't very useful when your team refuses to team fight until 55 minutes.
If my adc sucks TF is cooked
The champ just takes too long to scale and the team tends to surrender before the champ hits level 16 or even level 11
Common Kayle experience
5/0 adc loses to 0/5 sololaner.
Countered by a free trinket everyone starts the game with.
My entire champion's mechanic is RNG on whether or not it works. Whenever you try to remount on Kled, you might as well roll a dnd 20 sided die to see if you're actually gonna remount before you die. There was a youtube video I watched before which went into detail on testing remount and it showed there were 4 different aspects to remount
- Doing damage on basic attack
- Getting the courage from basic attack
- Getting the actual HP from your remount
- Being able to use your mounted abilities after remounting
And that all 4 of these were on random timers everytime you remounted essentially making your entire characters mechanic straight RNG. Imagine if Gnar when he got full rage had a range of 3-5 seconds before he changed into mega gnar.
zed is only op against an incompetent enemy
My friend calls the Hwei long range lightning bolt insanely OP and unfair.
He conveniently ignores me when I tell him it only does good damage if you're low HP AND isolated. AND the skillshot itself is extremely slow and easy to walk out as long as you don't walk the most predictable path on the planet
Also they will say his burst is OP after feeding a hwei 20 kills, conveniently ignoring the fact that you need 2 rotations of spells + ult to solo kill a target earlier on, while most other burst mages only need their 1 combo + ult
Hwei isn't weak, but they think he's strong for all the wrong reasons
Everyone above gold counts the minions
My main isn't that good because I'm not Bin.