Moms for Liberty wants to depict itself as a grassroots group made up of concerned moms who are worried about their children’s education. In reality, they’re a GOP astroturf group that has repeatedly peddled the “gr00m3r” myth along with a host of other extreme positions.
Spill the tea ! Who?
Bridget Ziegler, one of the founders of M4L and her husband Christian, who is the chair of the FL Repuglican party both had sex regularly with another woman, then things went sour.
Damn! I completely missed that. Thanks :)
The article posted below says Zeigler gave a video of the sexual encounter with the other woman (who is an alcoholic?) to the police and the police said based on the video, the sex was likely consensual and there wasn’t enough evidence to say she was ‘raped’.
So, if there is video of them having sex and the cops having watched it said it looked consensual, then why are you calling it rape?
The threesome encounters were consensual but when Ziegler couldn’t make a “date” the extra woman said she wasn’t interested and the husband showed up to her house and SA her. She ended the relationship at that point and went public with the allegations
And Jaime Brennan is (or was* if she is trying to hide this fact) a part of this group. As a gay woman with a new child that will start school in a couple years she is not a candidate that wants my family to exist. Please, do not vote for her.
Wonder if she's banging anyone on the side. Seems to be a common pattern with the M4L crowd.
Funny how right wing MAGA nuts don't like homosexuality but just get excited when they see two women go at each other like the M4L founder did
she won't even use her real name on Facebook... pathetic.
these posts are helpful, thank you.
They also show me what MAGA dipshits to just block.
I thought we were calling them Klanned Karenhood?
It’s actually creepy the number of parallels they have with the United Daughters of the Confederacy when that organization was at its height.
This used to be a nice sub. Now it's turning into a bunch of hate right hate left... can we just keep to Frederick and not be so divided here???
It's literally the primary in the 14th, and is/was the early voting period... BoE is like the most local politics can get, of course it would be politics heavy right now...
Seriously? There is one side attacking schools and books right now and it's Republicans across the country. The time to be calm is over. They choose not to ever debate anything in good faith and now many hate groups like this have spawned and had success. Luckily you here this shit doesn't fly, but kids in the south are fucked. They are refusing to teach basic science and altering history. Then on top of that they are banning whatever other books they want because they claim their children are being groomed to be trans and gay. WAKE UP.
I'm curious, what books are being banned?
I'm talking textbooks mostly. And I'm pretty positive Florida and or Texas have removed some science related and history related books from their libraries. You can easily look this all up and see what they are banning.
Any book the makes mention of a non-straight relationship. Books about racism. Books about anti-semitism because they depict anti-semitism.
And they like to conflate books that are available in elementary schools with books that are only available to high school students.
Wow down voted for such a simple question?
Downvoted because it’s not a genuine question.
We are months away from the next presidential election and you want to pretend you don’t know what fucking books are being banned across the country???
Why the fuck is it anyone’s obligation here to educate someone who, if they just googled book bans, would find countless articles of school boards across the country banning everything from books mentioning Rosa Parks was black to two male penguins fostering an egg!
No; fuck that. People need to stop coming onto Reddit with bullshit questions that can easily be answered. The last time I took what seemed like a genuine question seriously, they revealed themselves to just be another conservative ass who proceeded to argue with me about the points I made; no more.
Nobody's obligation to educate me, I thought this was a place for conversation.
OK, now keep going and find all the other bullshit that’s happening across the country with lunatics like wh-res for Hitler, and stop pretending like you wanted “genuine conversation.”
Yes I see there's other things out there.
But why is GQ the #1 banned book?
Go ahead and just watch this. It answers your questions.
I watched the first ten minutes, agreed, that's a lot of book banning. But why is GQ the #1
Bro I have no kids and I have 0 clue what books are banned. Glad I didn't ask otherwise dude above would have a melt down over a question. He or she has definitely never been on the Internet before...since your question upset them so badly.
Ones that depict graphic sexual topics. Not sure why kids need to read sexual topics like that but hey who am I to judge when a kid should be indoctrinated.
You are gas lighting about things that are not happening. If anything you should be a lot more worried about schools altering history books and banning basic science like climate change versus getting angry about culture issues that have been gas light by the right.
Learn. Get your head out the sand
The hilarious thing is they can't see that they're becoming the very thing they profess to hate. They decry society ramming religion down people's throats in the past yet they're all too happy to to put any and every LGBTQ topic in schools at a young age, no matter how age inappropriate, and are furious anyone would protest.
You just have to contend that there are parents out there who don't want their kids learning from some public school teacher about gender identity and that if "feel" like a girl they literally are one. Many of these conservative parents protesting are also brown immigrants (per the MoCo protects recently) which they profess to respect. Then they get a surprised Pikachu face when the immigrants don't want their kids learning about leather fetishes from pride books for kids.
I just despise their arrogance and self righteousness. You can better believe I'm voting for all the Moms for Liberty candidates if it means keeping these kind of people away from children's curriculum.
Wow you people really are a piece of work aren't you. Teachers are not teaching kids gender identity. A teacher flies a pride flag and people gas light into claiming these things. I've not heard one instance of teachers shoving any of this down their throats. Like a typical gas lighting Republican, you claim these ridiculous things that are not true. Meanwhile actually factual history books and science books are being denied to children. Grow up and actually learn facts instead of parroting talking points from morons.
That libsoftiktok terrorist bitch will doxx teachers who just have the ABCs on the wall in rainbow letters. Wonder what ChardonnayQueen thinks of that?
Yep. She should be in prison. It's absolutely insane she is not arrested by now. If there was anyone remotely Liberal running around encouraging death threats against people or businesses, conservative media would be railing on it 24/7. I've heard no examples of any teachers indoctrinating children about LGBTQ. We live in a time where facts do no not matter whatsoever anymore.
Google says #1 banned book is Gender Queer. I've never read it so I can't say why it's being banned but it doesn't sound like history or science.
Did you even read what I said? I was specifically talking textbooks.
I was talking #1 banned book
Yes but I'm talking about things being banned that shouldn't be and text books are number #1. There could be some legit book bans but from what I've seen most are nothing insane. It's mainly because it's LGBTQ anything and it's banned.
Because your religions are made up nonsense, full stop. Gay/Lesbian/Trans folks are standing right in front of you just trying to live their lives but you religious extremist kooks just fuckin can't let them be. That's why we fight you.
So LGBTQ folks, in order to live their lives, have to get everything they want in schools even if parents feel it's age inappropriate? I don't follow that logic at all.
So black folks, in order to live their lives, have to get everything they want in schools even if parents feel it's age inappropriate? I don't follow that logic at all.
Here you go, I edited your comment to they way it would have read 50 years ago. Same dumb fucking argument.
Comparing Transgender people to Black people is massively racist & bigoted.
Imagine posting this and thinking it makes you right at all
So
LGBTQblack people, in order to live their lives, have to get everything they want in schools even if parents feel it's inappropriate?
There, I rephrased your shitty argument in 1960's terms. This is how you sound to the rest of us.
Now just because you fantasize about kids reading leather fetish books doesn’t mean that those books actually exist in our schools.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/07/05/montgomery-county-lgbtq-book-opt-out/
I'm referencing a very real thing. And don't give me this bullshit you don't even believe like "it's just the word leather in a word finder." Obviously it's within the context of Pride and it is a fetish. Some parents just don't want some idiot public school teacher talking to their grade schoolers about leather fetishes. It's a completely reasonable point.
So let me ask you a question. Why is it imperative for grade schoolers to learn about leather fetishes from a teacher? How is this so critical to LGBTQ people "living their lives" that any parents who object should just shut the fuck up?
Actually the inclusion of the word finder does make the book sound bad. So I looked up the book and read it. It’s an alphabet book “a is for…” and the word finder is just a list of items on each letters page. The leather is literally the dog who is the focus of the book’s leash.
The only way a child could come away from this book with any inkling of what a leather fetish is would be if the teacher specifically talked about it. Which would be inappropriate and that teacher would be fired.
Also from the article ““They’re supporting the Muslim community. They’re supporting parents because they also want the right to restore opt-out,” said Zainab Chaudry, the director of the Maryland Office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. “But their ideology, their views, their positions are antithetical to what our communities stand for.”
I'm going off the article on the WashPo. I'll have to see if I can take a look at the book sometime to really get a sense of it. It makes me feel better it's not leather in the context of Pride as it sounded.
I still don't think it's crazy that some parents don't want their kids learning about Pride in pre-K as part of the curriculum.
So you didn't actually know what you were talking about here did you?
Some Kids in pre-K have two moms. If kids are old enough to know about families with a mom and a dad, or single parent etc. They can learn that those loving families exist too.
No hate like Christian love. And judging by your comment/post history, you need to spend a hell of a lot more time on you before everyone else.
Finally, a hero.
Couldn’t have put it better myself self. They can’t see the forest through the trees
Hard to make that comment when candidates for school board want to make FCPS a weapon against any child who is LGBTQ or comes from parents who are LGBTQ. We’re county in transition, this election and the ones to follow determine our character.
So these people can go to school board meetings and act a fool and call teachers groomers… and calling them out on it makes us the divisive ones?
Maybe stop grooming kids…
Sure. Once people stop attacking our schools and libraries we can all get along. Until then you will hear about how unpopular conservative policies are because they are the ones attacking our schools and libraries.
What books is the left organizing to ban?
I agree with you, I really don't like these political posts. I never make them but I admit I'm a bit of the problem in that I respond as a more conservative person. However if there's no response this subreddit just turns into a giant progressive circle jerk which I don't think accurately reflects Frederick as a whole.
I'm a bit of the problem in that I respond as a more conservative person.
Thank you for at least admitting that conservative people are part of the problem. A shame that won't change your opinion knowing it's problematic.
Well the progressives on this sub are a much, MUCH bigger problem was my point. If you guys just stopped posting political stuff there really would be no division here bc the conservatives aren't doing that. But you're so self righteous I don't think you can help it.
the conservatives aren't doing that
What exactly would you say it is you're doing right now?
Commenting on posts made by progressives. No conservatives I can see are actually posting threads spreading a conservative message.
That's because dumb ideas get downvotes.
This is a communist sub they can’t help themselves. You didn’t say anything political and you got down voted. Join the mob or be killed by it
Communism is anything I don't like
learn what communism is, then come back to the discussion please.
“Communism is anything I don’t agree with.” - every single Republican
How many downvotes do you need before you’re literally executed?
Against LGBTIQALMNOQ+ indoctrination in schools? Got my support, you all should read Adam Carolla’s book “In fifty years we’ll all Be chicks”
Ah yes, the guy how brought us “Juggies” and “Cheerleaders Jumping on Trampolines” has important thoughts about “indoctrination”
How is that LGBT people likely grew up Un-indoctrinated in homes with straight parents, reading books about straight relationships, watching tv with straight characters, and still turned out LGBT? Puzzling.
exactly what i’m thinking as a queer teen who was raised evangelical. the books are not turning your kids gay, we have been gay the whole time and society disregards it!
🙄
You do realize that LGBTQ persons have been around for 5000+ years (documented)?
Might as well have a tattoo on your forehead that reads, "Can't Handle Reality".
On the off chance you're being genuine, one of the candidates for Frederick County Board of Education, Jamie Brennan, is historically affiliated with and financed by Moms for Liberty which is a recognized hate group by SPLC.
That group campaigns against COVID-19 health protections, LGBTQ+ and racial inclusivity in schools, and has advocated for book bans that mention any kind of racial or non-heterosexual aspects of life. They're the kind of group that doesn't want to believe the Civil War was about the perceived right to own people as slave labor.
Jamie will refuse to acknowledge her links to this group and pretends the fact that she has more cash than the next ten candidates combined is just luck or some shit.
Yup. I was being genuine, I don't live in Frederick, but travel there often and have family in the area. I do love the city, but just wasn't aware of this being related since the post didn't mention it. Thanks for the info
Groomer “myth”…says the people getting surgery and puberty blockers for children.
If you want to hear about grooming, talk about the facts. More teenage girls get breast implants than adults get top surgery.
And the puberty blockers? (Crickets)
There are legitimate medical reasons to give children puberty blockers, such as cases where puberty starts too early.
Womp womp
Is this supposed to be some kind of statement? Because all it really does is make you sound like an idiot.
puberty blockers are not only used for transgender teens. my conservative christian mother was given them during her childhood because she went through precocious puberty at a very early age. they saved her and i can’t believe so many people think they’re handing them out like candy to transgender teens when in reality it’s an incredibly long process that doesn’t happen for most of us.
Grooming is not a myth wtf
Never forget one of the heads of Moms for Liberty was caught having gay sex and her husband raped their sex partner . A perfect example of republicans hypocrisy.