[justf1car] 2024 Australian Grand Prix - Qualifying Gap Visualised
PhotoLeclerc and Sainz didn’t quite hook up their laps but damn.
We all know the result on Sundays but I at least thought Saturdays would be a fun competition. Max has set pole by 3 tenths in every race so far.
It’s insane. He was 2-4 tenths slower than them throughout quali, even Fernando was quicker at one point. And then the man just hooks up a lap like it’s nothing.
he did so many laps in Q1, so he could deliver in Q3
Red Bull did use Q1 as an impromptu FP4. Both drivers just stayed out on 1 set of soft, only heading into the pits for front wing adjustments. Max had his wings adjusted 3 times to get it in a good spot.
Since they know they're safe in Q1 it makes sense to get some final adjustments in
Wait, what? I thought once qualifying started parc ferme is in effect and you can't adjust wings/other setup?
You can only change the angle of the front wing
you can slightly adjust the angle of the front wing i believe
Thanks, I thought everything was locked in.
I swear he reminds me of a robot (in a good way)
Something's not computing...input new data....okay systems back to normal
He’s running multiple simulations every corner in his head to find more until he gets pole lol
He looked at 14,000,605 possible outcomes and found the only one where he gets pole.
He is to racing what Newey is to design. Always finding something somewhere.
I’ve been wondering for a while if you built a self driving f1 car how close max would compete with it
I think at this point he's just messing with us all. The competition, those of us watching, everyone. It's like his side quests this season. Now it's, I'll let everyone believe I'm. 4 doen and then, I'll get pole by .3.
It really feels like he's just toying with the rest of the field at this point. He does whatever he wants until someone gets close to him, then he just turns it on for one lap and leaves everyone behind him.
Ted was hyping up on Sky a 6 driver fight for pole.
Nah man. This is The Max Verstappen Show, when it counts he'll always be there.
Verstappen knows what's he doing, just give illusive hope to take it back watching tears in their eyes. Dude is a monster 🙂
Because he's taking the piss. He has so much performance in hand it's a joke. He is a second a lap faster in race pace.
Nobody had a perfect lap, except Max. Perez had issues with front left tire.
Perez had issues with front left tire.
By the time of the quali, its probably fully on him.
Ferrari had a shot in 2 out of 3 though, but if their drivers don’t deliver when it matters and Max does, you get these kind of gaps
yeah, it's several times that there have been drivers to challenge Max for pole but when it matters, most seem to fumble and he ALWAYS delivers. I remember Norris in Abu Dhabi last year. He should have definitely beaten max to pole but he went drifting. Leclerc and sainz today should have been at least a tenth within Verstappen's time
This tells me that they're not really capable of putting in the laps they're trying to... They're over driving the car trying to put in a 105% effort to match Max's 100%... And it's causing them to make mistakes. Kinda reminds me of Marquez in Moto GP trying to wring performance that doesn't exist out of his Honda the last two years.
Max's pole in Monaco 2023, that was him at 100.00%. Anymore and he would have crashed like he did in Jeddah 2021.
The last sector was sublime but he had a yellow middle sector. So tough to argue it was truly 100.0%.
That was absolutely Lando last year for sure. Pushing the car beyond it's limits to try and put it on pole. Cost him a few qualis but with the first half of the season they had what did it matter?
Perfect analogy.
people always looking for ways to discredit Max
Exactly and I'm sick of people saying it wasn't competitive because the guy they don't like came out on top. lmao. What kind of bs is that. It's not Max's fault that the other guys choked.
I also think Max's platform gives him the ability to deliver more often. From the onboards, the RB always looks so stable - almost like a road car.
The Ferrari/Mclaren/Mercedes onboards are so much sketchier.
Which is true, but it's also Max. I remember Dutch TV did a comparison between Danny Ric's and Max' steering adustments in corners, back when they were both at RBR. Danny was constantly correcting where Max just looked as steady as you like.
Add Max' alien level of consistency and a car that's only beatable under very specific circumstances and never seems to break down... yeah.
And Max has the better car. He can "only" get 99.5% out of it and cruise to the front. Sainz and Leclerc need to actually get 100% out of the car to even have a chance. It's a lot harder to drive a perfect lap when you're on the true razor's edge.
Hardly. This era's RB has never been particularly dominant in qualy, Ferrari have always been super close there. It might cruise to easy wins in the race, but that's certainly not the case on Saturdays.
Or even push 99.5% of his own limit while the rest of the grid has to go over the limit for a flyer.
Did you know the result this Sunday😋
Sainz blew 0.4 in the chicane, he would have had pole.
Cant really cry about domination for this session tbh
More like Max had a perfect approach and great in T10. He pulled up, like, 0.3 seconds over Sainz in that.
No, it was simply a Sainz mistake. His min speed was much lower even compared to the mclarens/mercs, and lower compared to his q2 min speed.
The ferrari had pace for pole this weekend
He was 12km/h slower trough there... when you watch his onboard it is very clear that he had to lift/break. Telemetry also tells the same story.
Ferrari should have been on pole if their drivers performed.
losers excuse, lol
Sainz is not even averaging 250kph
He did not hook up those two corners but saying he would have had pole is a bit of a stretch. It was super close with Max a bit ahead till that chicane. (and we know Max absolutely destroyed that chicane)
Max "Clockwork Orange" Verstappen strikes again with another Maxterclass
For Max, driving in actual F1 is like us playing F1, on 40 difficulty.
Ver was in the weeds all session, he only hooked it up on his final lap, he really had to work for it this time. Progress 👍
TBF Ferrari are definitely there in the quali. They just somehow do better in Q2
And that's with race pace setups. Imagine this year's RB with party mode quali setups.
We all know the result on Sundays
Aged like fine wine
Aged poorly
Max is just gonna leave everyone. That time means nothing at this rate. Last race he lapped half of the field. This year seems more geared towards the fight for second and team drama/issues (internal/external). I can't see anyone putting up a fight especially if RBR (RedBull) is still performing upgrades.
You mean Red Bull? RB is a different team now, remember? So straightforward and not at all confusing.
Yes... completely forgot I gotta type out RedBull now lol
Honestly I’m still gonna do RBR and VCARB cause fuck that lol
Stewart and Minardi
I call them MinRB
if we wanna get really pedantic you could say Gary Evans Motorsport Team and Scuderia del Passatore
I'm just gonna say RB for both and hope I gave enough context for someone to understand what I mean lol
Should be too difficult, if you’re talking about a spaceship it’s RB, but if you’re talking about a boat it’s RB. ez pz
Bro, what are you on about, one team is Red Bull RB and another is Visa Cash App RB, that's as straightforward as it can get, lol.
Excuse me but Oracle didn't pay half a billi to be excluded from the Oracle Red Bull Racing title, how dare you?
No one team is Red Bull racing(RBR) and another is Visa Cash app RB(VCARB, excluding sponsors, just RB)
We have 'RB' and 'RB at home'.
Temu RB
Don't give Temu ideas
I still say Red Bull Renault when I see RBR.
I will call Red Bull RB. Racing Balls is Alpha Tauri.
I refuse to call them that stupid name.
i'm still calling them AT or Toro Rosso, fuck this Racing Bulls shit
I hope you regret this statement now
It is so annoying how people always exaggerting the results to push their narratives. 6/18 cars that finished were lapped.
I don’t think there’s any exaggerating the results. Max gets a commanding lead then manages his car and tires. So he lapped ⅓ of the field instead of half but he wasn’t pushing for more.
He could have gotten blue shelled and still won by 5 seconds
No narrative to push. So he lapped 6...still, he is miles ahead. There is no one to challenge him is my overall point, so giving us those times means nothing. It should be the battle for second if anything.
come again?
We legit went from HAM BOT VER to just VER
These graphs are correct to anyone who thinks they're misleading I'd advice to use the grid position lines to estimate the difference.
It's the use of perspective that makes it look weird, but that's just a visual choice. It still contains all the information you need to make an accurate estimation.
I mean they are kind of misleading despite being accurate. The perspective shrinks gaps further back. It's likely less misleading if there's motion to calibrate people's depth perception, but a static shot will mislead a bit.
I mean, I guess that could be a legitimate argument. But these are mostly made to illustrate what the qualification difference would look like in a race and for that it works better than a overhead shot.
I think the reaction is strong because it's always Verstappen and seeing him so far up front makes people feel more desperate than they already are, but the couple of times Leclerc had pole it was illustrated in exactly the same way. It's not some weird propaganda push to make Verstappen look even more dominant...the guy really doesn't need that when he's winning as much as he is by the gap that he does.
It's not that large a distance that the parallax error provides that much of a misleading nature. Humans can interpret that view.
But the difference between Max and Sainz is far greater than Sainz and Leclerc.
It isn't.
Try this. Put Max on the nearest grid position (under the time box) and bump Sainz down the rough space you need to move Max down to fit in his grid box, and put him on the nearest grid position (the one in front of Perez). You'll find that there are two open grid positions in between.
Now put Sainz on the nearest grid position (once again the one in front of Perez) and now bump Leclerc down the rough size that you have to move Sainz downwards and put him on the nearest grid position (under Leclerc's time box). And there will be two open grid positions in between as well.
Mercs are a full second behind. Ridiculous.
Mercedes should be embarrassed, they have literally gotten worse every year since these regulations.
I agree. Their best car for these new regs relatively speaking was 2022!
Sainz had a mistake in T9-10 (https://youtu.be/qOORoBJAzOM?si=DzMochk4Tgih0DPP&t=122) but considering his condition he performed extremely well, but Leclerc was disappointing. He was quite ahead of Sainz the first day, I don't know what happened to his performance today!
It’s mostly that Sainz was still recovering from the surgery and getting used to be being back in the car.
And Sainz just outperforming Leclerc in the first two races we’ve seen them together in 24’
In the second race Leclerc got a podium and Sainz scored 0 points
Hell, even the reserve driver for Ferrari scored 6 points. Sainz is washed
Sainz is in beast mode so far this year, I really hope it continues.
We are gonna see this same thing for 24 times
We're witnessing history
Not true of course, but I feel like Liberty might be saying to Max, “Hey bro, so you're going to sweep this season once again. But, for the sake of entertainment, could you make it seem like other teams are competing for P1 during Q1 & Q2? Then, in Q3, you can blow them out of the water during your final run. Thanks, my g!”
I think they tell him to constantly complain about his downshifts and upshifts, 'understeering like crazy'
Haha, for real. Not sure why they show clips of Max’s radio messages to GP about how “bad” the car is performing. That car is perfect - we know he’s going to put that thing on rails and lap everyone 🤣
Hmmm..where have we heard/seen that before..?
Bono, my tires are dead man….
~Hamilton New Fastest Lap~
Sainz lost over 0.3s because of a mistake in turn 9-10.
That’s like saying, if Sainz drove better he would’ve been faster.
More like pole was quite possible for the Ferrari.
Ah yeah I see what you’re saying now. It really shows how good Verstappen is.
Sure but I would say this is more about Ferrari not maximizing their chances when they have them. Sainz did a great job considering his health condition but Leclerc under delivered in my opinion.
Leclerc had a greedy setup which he didn't think through
put too much front end which made the car unpredictable
is that why in Bahrain Max went slower in Q3 then Charles in Q2?
Im so tired
I'm tired Robbie
same thing, i usually black tape the part of the screen where p1 is and i quite enjoy the race :'D
Someone should start photoshopping a trailer behind Max’ car in these gap pics
Maybe the 2026 changes in regs are to try to get max to quit F1 lol
This looks the same every week. A huge gap from Max and the next 4 really close together
And this is why I’ll watch the highlights and not wake up at 4am
Edit: This aged like milk.
At this point the only way Max can entertain himself is by trying to lap everyone twice
His goal is to be the first driver to lap himself
He might just lap everyone except the top 5 when they get to Spielberg....
I did need a reason not to get up tomorrow. Thanks . And well done Max on another WDC
yeah...im not waking up for this
when you do wake up, youre gonna wish you watched it…
Haha I was just realizing there are a lot of disappointed fans who skipped a good one
Bruuuuh that one time i decide to skip a race
Lol, that's how it goes. Mine and my friend's jaws fucking dropped pretty quick
Guys I’m starting to think it’s more than just the car
Last year the race was saying that RBR winning all but one race would be most annoying, so part of me hopes fuck it, let them win them all.
I'm game for Verstappen to outdo his ten win streak. I think the question is more what do you think he'll hit? I think he could go until Monaco very reliably at least.
T9-T10 was painful for Carlos. Great effort from him though.
Yeah, Ferrari definitely had the pole in it this weekend, but Carlos did well regardless. Charles on the other hand, what a huge let down.
excited to watch the race! i am sure the battle for first will be climactic and intriguing
We're going to have to start including Verstappen previous lap
This whole season is an easy skip. Probably the next one too. In 2026 perhaps things will be different.
Next one will only be entertaining because of the driver shifts, the winner will still be boring
I really like these graphics, it somehow equally show how Verstappen is dominant but at the same time how close the drivers are.
It does kinda exaggerate the difference between Verstappen and Sainz (either by perspective or just a bit too big of a difference on purpose, if the difference to Norris is anything to go by).
I'm 99% certain RedBull are just playin' with us.
Can we just accept Sainz is better than Leclerc?
Quali when Leclerc is on point is the only time he edges out sainz
And even then that’s rare
No
Boring shit. Max is incredible but I want to watch him race other cars. This is dog shit.
These regs and cost cap are a disaster. Never been this bored of F1 before, and we are only a few races in. Massive disappointment.
Max really did hook up his lap perfectly, simply lovely, but still when he hooks it up right, good luck stopping him from getting Pole, an act of God is required to stop Max getting on Pole!
So tired of this. And bored.
He can't win every race... 😂🤣😪😥😭
So +270 milliseconds is miles behind, but additional +130 is just right there behind?
Please make more realistic graphs. I think i saw this one last race. They just changed timings.
The graph is correct. You need to use the grid position lines for comparison so you don't get fooled by the use of perspective.
My analysis: https://imgur.com/a/2cjpKRt
distance between grid spots is 8m according to the regulations.
I'll do some rough calculations:
Assuming they are travelling 300kph, based on f1 23 time trial runs
-> /3.6 to get 83m/s
83 m/s * 0.270s = 22.5m between max and carlos
83 m/s * 0.130s = 10.8m between carlos and norris
It's not perfect, but it's pretty much correct
Except that the first grid box starts at the edge of Verstappen's time box and not the start-finish line. And you cut off the most comparable time difference between Sainz and Leclerc (0.270 over 0.230).
Woops indeed, the bottom rectangle is a bit wrong.
And people say the Mercedes dominance was boring. This is even worse. With Merc it was both drivers, this is genuinely causing me to lose interest
The qualy session was competitive heading into Q3 it looked like any of both Ferrari and both Red Bulls could have been on pole but only 1 driver put the lap together. You just don't like who came out on top.
Right. I'm clearly biased based on a single qualifying session. Verstappen happens to be one of my favourite drivers, I'd just like some more competition at the top of the time sheets.
Not going to open the worm can about domination but I seem to have missed those times Bottas was challenging Hamilton...
This is going to be a boring season again
ayy see yall 2025
Yay for more of these misleading renders.
Where's Lewis? lol
Max ‘DOMINATRUS’ Verstappen
Whoaw... that much
Bad bad bad
That new power unit do be working huh?
Against all odds
Ridiculous
I think this season will be no different from last season...
Imagine Senna 1.5s on top of Prost in Monaco?! 🤯
Gonna be a boring race again, for Verstappen
we are all bots here except for you
Now imagine they could stay this close in the race and we get a photo finish like this. A man can dream.
I was watching the news through FP and thought maybe this weekend I'll get up and watch the race live, my wife and child are away and have the house to myself.
Just give Max the title so we can enjoy the others racing
This feels wrong? The time gap between Perez and leclerc is almost the same as max to Sainz... But max is way ahead of Sainz compared to the distance between Perez and leclerc
So what’s the margin for today, 15sec? 😂 cool graphic though, definitely shows it better than just numbers or grid placement. I just hope my boi #PuffPiastri can do well.
I don’t even listen to Perez complain anymore. Max is dominating with the same car.
Lol the field is closer than ever I think and people still complain. Woooow 0.27 seconds, mainly by the driver skills, how dominant.
Here's some AUS qualifying gaps for ya:
- HAM. 0.594 to ROS. 1.391 (!!) to MAS
- HAM. 0.360 to ROS. 0.838 to VET
Sad for exciting racing. Good for my f1 fantasy.
Just because max is winning doesn’t mean the other 19 cars aren’t interesting
Max is something else
People go on about the max dominance and how boring it is but I am curious how that is reflected in the viewing figures
F1 seems more popular than ever thanks to drive to survive but are people actually switching off?
I'll always watch f1 like I have since I was a kid but I am curious
Had quite a few friends who finally started watching F1 with me 4 years ago. Im back to watching it on my own with only reddit to talk about it. And even Im struggling. Obviously anecdotal but I cant imagine it hasnt had an impact.
I find it hard to pretend it’s worth watching
First time in 10+ years I won't be bothering to wake up early (UK) to watch it live, it's just lost all entertainment value that it's not worth me compromising my Sunday for!
Former dominant periods have been littered with lower reliability and a semi-competitive teammate. Max's teammate is a mediocre driver in an incredible car who doesn't even appear in his mirrors after ~10 laps, I can't imagine Perez even features in Max's internal thought process come race weekends! Max is an amazing driver but he has no competition, it must be pretty boring for him too.
its 5 am for me, so 4 am for you. Honestly, F1TV will play it when I wake up.
Surely yes people are switching off. I personally am at the point where I probably have it on but I’m doing other things not actually paying proper attention. I didn’t bother getting up this morning to watch live and I love qualifying.
Leclerc being this close without having done a final lap is actually really good.
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