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Went through your post history. It seems you are VERY hard on yourself and very much stuck in the past. Please go to therapy.

Your life didn't end because you haven't gone to med school. There are people in their 30s going back to school for medicine. There are med students in their 40s.

Your life isn't over. If you want to go to med school, do what you need to do in order to go to med school.

Stop wallowing in the past and do what you need to do to get where you need to go. Therapy is the first step, take the MCAT, maybe even do a Post Bacc program, keep working at your job. See if they have tuition assistance also

Good luck

You’re not a loser or worthless. Sometimes we all hit rough edges and it takes some time to figure it all out. I would say therapy is definitely a first step. You have options. You can do the post bacc like the other poster suggested and try for an MLS, you can go into R&D, sales, QC/QA. I have a BA in biology and found a way to break into research which led to a successful career without having to go for a masters or PhD, by going entry level and getting a fair amount of experience. My point is, is that there’s more out there. You don’t need a high GPA or masters to break into research if you’re interested. This of course is if you’re interested in trying to find a path with your bachelors. You can try out contracting positions that can give you a kickstart and get you through the door, biohubs are always teeming. Contractor positions are open for people that are interested. There is no age to this.

If there’s any additional help or if you’d like the names of the companies I know my colleagues used I’d be happy to share them with you if you’re interested. I’m sorry you’re going through this.

You have to forgive yourself for not knowing what you know now. You’re exactly where you need to be in life. You’re not a loser, you’re not stupid, and just because you live at home that doesn’t mean anything different from the ones who don’t. You’re so focused on the past you can’t focus what to do for the future- that’s what is happening. You got a degree. So why not stay at home a bit longer and go get your masters in something? Do something cool that’s like rock star material. Go into like forensics science and work with the police in figuring crimes and all the wild shit you hear about on the news, become a forensics expert in whatever speciality there is out there. You’re a smart individual. Start thinking that way. Because thinking the way you do now isn’t getting you too far with not much of anything to show. Depression really kills the whole body.

We're all just winging it, dude. Don't be so hard on yourself. You'll figure something out going forward. Hell, maybe I can help with ideas or planning? I'm just some schmuck but I'm always down for a conversation.

My dad gave me some wonderful wisdom when I graduated college…

He asked me what I was going to do now that college was finished and I responded that I didn’t know.

His response was, “Son, I’m about to retire and I still don’t know what the hell I wanna do. Just go out there and do some sh*t.”

So, in the midst of my 3rd career change, I have no regrets. I’ve learned a lot, took some chances, and figured out what I didn’t want to do as well as what I wanted to do until I didn’t. The world is forgiving as long as you’re willing to work, learn, be kind, and tell a few good jokes.

Just keep on doing you and try some new sh*t until you figure it out but maybe you never will. And that’s alright, you tried. Most people never make that gamble on themselves at least you had the courage.

I resonate at lot with your post. I'm a 31M with a music degree from 2015, stumbled from shitty jobs to a halfway decent 9-5 cubical job that was intended to be a stepping stone that I got stuck in for 7 years.

I know things seem hopeless when you're stuck in a rut and facing a career crisis into your 30s while everyone in your social circles seems to have their lives together.

Before you plot your next moves take some time to forgive yourself for how life has been up to this point. I'm sure many of the decisions you made were the best you could have made given the facts and understanding you had at the time, it's not worth beating yourself up over it.

I don't know much about STEM fields, but my boss at a law firm I work for was a bio major who failed out of dental school, so life has many interesting twists and turns. There may be several meaningful and rewarding careers that you don't even know about yet.

It's okay to be on your own timeline, I came into my 30s facing crippling panic attacks largely over the perception I was destined for a sad life because I wasn't married, still worked an entry level office job, lived with my mother with no financial freedom, the list goes on.

I came to realize over the next year a lot of the pressure was self imposed, no one's hovering around you with a grading pen judging your life story. Have some grace for where you are now, and focus on what move to take that will be conducive to your flourishing as a person.

Building success takes time, and it takes a lot of strength to resist the feeling the pain of not already being where you saw yourself, but it's absolutely not too late to craft a nice life for yourself.

Bruh.... From NP (Nurse Practioner) to you. You think being a RN is worse than what you're doing now? You need to stop being negative, and maybe stop being so picky. If you feel like you have no idea what you WANT to do, maybe pick something you NEED to do in order to accomplish whatever goals you set for yourself. Goals might be home ownership, financial independence, and social status. Well, you may not WANT to be a RN; but you might NEED a job like a RN to fulfill those goals.

Some take aways here....

1 - You can still be a MD if you really want. Go back for a Masters, do well, reapply.

2 - You're a university graduate, so college would be easy for you. Go pick a good college career. On the other hand, why don't you just use your degree to flex into a better position? Retail managers make good money, and the requirement is usually retail experience + any university degree. Alternatively, you can go into retail banking. A quick accounting/finance college diploma coupled with your degree, and maybe some part time retail banking experience as you study would set you up for branch manager.

3 - RN is a good step towards practicing medicine. If your grades in the BScN are high (likely not, SATA kills most students cGPA) then you may get into medical school. Some medical schools do consider the general difficult of the undergrad. Even if your grades aren't medical school level, with some decent grades and experience you can go on to be a NP. I do not claim to be a doctor, but the practice of medicine boils down to the diagnosis and ability prescribe. Hence PA (physician assistants) and NPs practice medicine. If you want the autonomy, then be a NP. If you want the title more closely associate with doctor, then go PA. Also, your degree has already set you up to be a PA more quickly than a NP.

Also, as far as patients being rude, just go: ICU, OR, PACU, Cathlab, Travel Clinic Nurse / Public Health, or Dialysis. ICU gives you big autnomy to practice, and half your patients are vented and sedated. OR is check the paperwork, sedate, 1-8 hour procedure, circulate (RNs are rarely scrub nurses although it happens) then ship to PACU. Most of the time OR nurses are dealing with patients for less than 10 minutes conscious. PACU is deal with patients waking up, and when they are up (a few hours) ship them back to the floors. Cathlab is mapping the heart with some contrast, and dealing with code blues on the table. Very short patient interaction, and nice hours (like OR). Then you have Travel Clinic Nurses / Public Health where you give booster shots or travel vaccines. Besides COVID-19 rudeness, most people will come to you because they WANT the vaccine before they travel. For any rude patients, you just ask the patient to be quiet as you'd like to complete the vaccination in a timely manner for them to get on with their day.

4 - If you're done venting, go be productive for yourself. Do some research and fix your problem instead of wallowing in lost time.

GOOD LUCK!

Certificate programs like radiology tech, respiratory therapy, surgical tech, or sonography. 2 years and you can be in a different place. Plus you’ve had so much patient contact through medical assisting, so that can only be a plus for getting a job after you complete your program. Your doctor might even be able to help you find a job, or at the least be a great reference.

You have to mend this mindset that you are worthless before you’re going to be able to think about what you might want to do and make it happen.

Medical assistants help people. That is important work. You’re supporting other providers so they can provide care.

It’s ok if you don’t like the job but it’s a Nobel and necessary profession.

Also, your job shouldn’t define you. Volunteer, spend time with friends or make some, be a part of your community.

Go to therapy and get some of this internal dialog out and a therapist can help you figure out what you want to do next and how to mend your sense of self. Nothing sounds interesting when you’re in a rut like this.

You're too hard on yourself, I was like you, proper planning goes a long way. Gotta optimize your routine and hone in goals, look for mentors and coaches

I'm 29 with a worthless chemistry degree who also couldn't do med school who feels like a failure!!! You're not alone!!!

I was working in a completely different industry that got pretty much ruined because of covid. Had to move back home (but couldn't move back in with my parents), which just happens to be a biotech hub, so I'm trying to break into SOMETHING here. Can't even find an entry-level or contract work because everyone else here got laid off and actually has experience. Every day is suffering. I want to just go back to school and start over and get an engineering degree or something but can't afford it. Hopefully we'll be okay but this whole existence is AWFUL. What was the point of working so hard??? It was all literally for nothing.

My brother in Christ get a job at thermo fisher, Corning, vwr, Thomas, Labsource, Mettler Toledo, NIH, a university or any of the countless science related companies and fields

Graduate schools like students who have had experience beyond going straight from undergrad to grad school. Take the MCAT again. Invest in a test prep course, everyone else is. Personal statement? “What happens to a dream deferred?” you have a story. Just try your best at your own pace. You have nothing to lose. You don’t get to write yourself off without giving yourself a fair shot.

Hubby went to med school at 35, and he also had a BS in Biology. He was working dead end job at the health department. He had an accident one day, horrible- He said while he was in hospital the residents were fairly incompetent and he thought if they could do it, so could he, plus almost dying put some spring in his step Long story short, he had average grades and went to med school in the carribean. He had a lot of student loan debt but worked in nonprofit for 10 years to have them forgiven. My point is... it's never too late. You can do it.

99.9% of us won't get an MD, and that's ok. That age was ass for me too, and then it got alot better. You have a solid career hardly a loser. Real loosers continually purposely hurt others. that's not you

Go to community College and get a good medical tech program of some sort (anesthesia tech, xray tech, whatever).... You'll get paid way better and have better hours than a MA, have some sort of career path, and can do management or a different program later. Just get your head in the game. You have ONE life. While you're lamenting over what isn't, you're not living in gratitude for what you have, which is the gift of the future.

Look over these programs, job outlooks, pay scales. Since you have a bachelor's you will probably be a way better candidate for these programs. Look up the campus near where you live, this is the closest one to me. Good luck and take action!

https://www.tccd.edu/academics/courses-and-programs/programs-a-z/credit/

Instead of being a “useless” medical assistant be an awesome one! Even poor status jobs need to be done competently with a smile. You will be noticed over time and opportunities will ensue.

I have had some really low status jobs (picking up other people’s trash, washing dishes, retail) and I took pride in doing what I did well, and recognized it needed to be done, even if some people looked down on it.

Biology degree here… it’s not about your degree.. don’t let your 4 years of studies determine what you are going to do for the rest of your life… go up skill yourself.. look up the job if your dream and start working towards those education and skill set

It’s not your degree, it’s you! Now get your ass moving

32M I have no degree and have never worked at an employer that had more than 8 employees. Aka "dead-end" jobs - but I realized my job isn't my life and the things I do outside of work bring me a ton of joy. Though at times I can definitely relate to the OP.

You are quite literally doing well at 32 and I don't know why you're being so hateful to yourself. You're not where you want to be career-wise and that's the ONLY issue here!
Punching yourself in the face every minute will not help that.

I’ve said this so many times, people believe anything when it rhymes, so plant your flag, and make a stand, and then your life will be fucking grand.

32m. I feel the exact same way you do. I went to college for so many things.

Dude BS in biology??? I wish I was that smart

hey we are similar! Im 29f also trying to figure it out. its rough out here but if you ever need someone to bounce ideas off of id love to chat!

You know, you could go for a nurse practitioner or physician assistant - both see patients like a doctor and take care of minor stuff. Just saw one today for sinus infection, and I like her a lot, actually. Point is it is a way to get your feet wet doing doctor like things, but more attainable then trying to become a doctor. Many dr practices are now employing NP or PA’s. Think it would help your confidence, as well.

You have a bachelor degree! It's a great door opener I've heard and you've got job experience.

I'm glad many people stepped in here and offered support and solutions. Hang strong sister! I can tell you have drive and will progress soon. Living at home is a okay if everyone is getting along?

Cytogenetic  technology. Tech 1s do over 100k 

u gotta stop feeling so sorry for yourself

it’s time to stop wasting time thinking about lost time and start using your time

study for the MCAT, like ACTUALLY study, get over ur GPA that’s not for you to decide, and start APPLYING

instead of sitting there year after year just going through the motions and letting time fly and throwing yourself a years long pity party

also go to therapy

Find a very good therapist, even consider something like an intensive outpatient for a short time because this sounds like a very unhealthy place you are in and it's important to make some fundamental changes in mental wellbeing before thinking about professional education.

Long term nursing school could be a good choice if you'd like to remain in this field, but give yourself time.

Find something you’re interested in and good at. After that, find the number one company for that field and go work your ass off.

You are actually worth A LOT to your community and the people you help and work with everyday! I was in your shoes, but it takes leaning in and hard work to save enough to move out of the parents house…

Another thing Nurses AND Doctors get paid well for the BS they have to put up with… It’s backbreaking and thankless, but that’s what it takes to move out and be able to afford your own place these days.

Lately I've been thinking about the concept of being someone and doing something, and more specifically about karma, luck and the outlook for our lives. I've been thinking too about the people in my life who told me they had the equivalent to a couple of hundred dollars when they had to start over completely in a new province, and about the quote, "It isn't about what you make, but about what you save." with respect to personal finance.

I think all of these things are important to consider when you're thinking about your own relative value. It's hard for those who have gone through traumatic experiences to see self-worth or acknowledge strengths and such, but that doesn't mean they aren't there, and the sooner you get out of your own way... the sooner you can leverage those strengths and stop being a big fat loser.

The difference between you and I, and someone who is successful, is that they were willing to chomp at the bit and endure something uncomfortable in exchange for a little golden ticket called prosperity.

My much older coworker was telling me tonight, "We, as humans, have a bad habit of thinking it's never enough. That we could have a little more."

He meant money, but you can apply this broadly to different aspects of the human experience. We always think that we can squeeze a little more out of the lemon, rather than choosing to be happy with what we've got. We don't always have to be, mind you, it's just that we often misatrribute our unhappiness and vitriol to things that don't deserve all that energy.

Perhaps what you need is not a medical degree, but a long hard look at yourself to better appraise who and what you are, what your values are and how you can live those values either alongside or within a profession, whether that be medicine or something else entirely. Failing that, it just sounds like you're afraid of success and you're making up excuses not to succeed. It's easy to fail, relatively speaking. It's really tough to be successful, and a lot of the difficulty comes after you've already won the battle.

You know what I'm saying?

Hey here are a few medical options: Perfusionist (requires a bachelors and then acceptance into a program) Rad tech - that’s what I’m applying to Dental hygienist Mhnp NP respirator therapist Occupational therapist Nuc med or IR Medical sales

I wouldn’t give up on med school. If it is what you’re truly passionate about then do it. First you need to work on your mindset. You seem very tired and depressed. Get that addressed first, talk to someone or get on medication. If your gpa is low consider going to school for a masters and work on maintaining the highest possible gpa you can. Then go to med school. It’s not too late, you’re still young.

YOU ARE NOT A LOSER, YOU GRADUATED. Yes life can be unfair, not everyone get the job they expect. BUT YOU ARE NOT A LOSER, Life is not all about careers, yes it gets ur to buy more than just food and bills. But not everything is bought, and mostly the one that can’t be bought are the most impacting and precious in ur life. Def reconnect deep within urself and think about what made u laugh, felt that days were more memorable, what was life worth living for

Did you find biology interesting? If you hadn't studied it, is it a subject you would have always wished you were highly educated on? Surely you got something out of it, whether or not you ultimately think it was worth all that money?

Is there any way you can extract value from all the knowledge you acquired? You probably learned about statistics, how cells function, etc. - maybe you can get involved in a project related to neural models or something, if you find the brain interesting? Learn some programming etc. and get into artificial life stuff? Maybe you could make something interesting like The Bibites?

Also, honestly consider this question: is your idea of being a "loser" tied to how others perceive you? Seriously think about that. Does it really matter how others perceive you, independent of the consequences that has on doing what you enjoy and feel is helpful to others?

You clearly define yourself by the work you do. Have you considered reapplying to medical school? Better yet, have you considered why you failed during your education period? Might need psychotherapy or some drug therapy if there is a constant issue with learning. After you’ve sorted yourself out, maybe consider a post-bacc to get that GPA up, and reapply. Having the short-term goal of getting good grades might help

Preach

Based on this post and your previous post history on the subject, it seems to me like you expect yourself to just be the right person. Maybe you thought if you were just consistent and kept at it, the doors would open for you due to some unique inate talent or personality that makes you the right person to be a doctor. I have a hunch that you formed an identity around being a smart good student growing up, that you were special because you were organized and diligent and got the work done and therefore got a grade that made you feel good about yourself. You were special because most students wouldnt do that, and their grades were worse than yours to reflect that. You got used to that separating you from most of your classmates, and assumed the same would fly in college and in life.

Then you were confronted with the reality that youre not special. I think we all know a GPA of 3.5 is actually pretty good and what youre doing for work does not make you a loser, but you dont set your bar at average, you set your bar at what some exceptional people are doing, and you just expect that you're "that person". Why should you be with the rest of the population? You dont like seeing that youre not doing anything special. You feel that youre supposed to be special, and youre confronted with the reality that youre not.

I think your mindset is the problem, youre not humble. You want to be part of the special "in" group thats got it going on, you dont want to be part of the rest of us down in the dirt being scrappy amd making real and difficult sacrifices to get the opportunities we dont have easy access to, often failing and trying again. To me, seeing that you dont want to move for what seems to have been your dream for many years tells me that. You also dont want to be like the rest of us making mistakes and bearing the consequences. Youre not used to that, and hate experiencing it now.

Believe it or not, you have all of the right tools and experiences to be a doctor, its your headspace thats not enabling you to get there. Youve become frozen thinking that talent and being exceptional is what gets you to med school. You cant even write a personal statement right now because you dont believe in yourself. You dont think youre the right person to be a doctor anymore.

I think youre missing grit. The most beautiful story isnt the power fantasy of "i was always great and I just continued to float above these losers my whole life". Thats a fun concept to explore in fantasy but in practice its boring, its offensive, the world doesnt work like that. We love an underdog story. Its "I am a loser, and I dont belong in that room with all of those great people. Im not special. But I cant think of anything i'd rather do than climb that hill, that is the best use of my life that I could conceive, so I'm going to work harder, work smarter, be more resourceful, even a bit brash and shameless, to cover up for the deeply flawed person that I am, and im going to climb that hill." Lets put aside the expectation of being a doctor for a moment. Humble yourself first. Accept that feeling of being in the dirt, and start to think about what that lets you uniquely do versus the actions people who arent willing to give up the "im special, I dont have to do that sort of stuff" mentality

Study a trade like plumbing, start making good money and get on with your life.

Stop being so hard on yourself, you could have lukemia and be living in a slum in China, and your parents could have no home for you to live in, things could be much worse.

Make a plan in a txt document start with what profession or trade you think you could do and would make you the most money that has work in the are you live.

Then work out the steps to get that trade or qualification you want.

Work through steps, complete plan.

Then make another plan to get employed or start your own business with your new trade or qualification.

Worry about giving your money away to a landlord or the bank for a place to live later, thats your next plan once you have an income.

Why do people think living at home is being a loser ?

It’s not only your parent’s home, it’s yours too.

Let it go ! Now ! I’ve spent the past ten years in and out of county jail, also did a full year in LA and a full year in Orange County jail, 2 year prison term in Norco, and 5 in High desert state prison . I’m currently getting off parole in September, 17 months sober, God willing, and work at a rehab and work graveyard (extra pay) . Will have my Registered Drug and Alcohol technician license in a week, finally achieve getting my first drivers license this year, and am still striving at 29 years old . You can do it man, I have two felony strikes and I learned I gotta get right with God get sober, live a life serving God and serving others, and make a change in myself in order to help people who want to make the same change as I did, it’s not to late, IT’S ONLY THE BEGINNING . YOU GOT THIS .

29 yo doctor here, if I was in your shoes I would go to nursing school instead, get that RN and if you still have the medicine itch think about NP or CRNA. Med school is long and really isn’t worth it, you might be 42 by the time you’re an attending. Also get on ozempic if your weight bothers you that much. If you’re still unhappy after all that, then think about therapy/meds.

It’s not too late to go to med school. See how you do on the mcat. There’s always Caribbean schools and DO, both of which will get you to the same place and are much easier to get into.

At lest you have the possibility of going. I dropped out of med school 2nd year and am now living at home working a dead end research tech job for barely more than minimum wage.

Honestly, you’re toxic AF. Just replace the word “I” with “you” and it’s clear you don’t respect yourself or anyone else in a similar circumstance as you.

Get recruiting into a biotech company

I hear lab techs make a living wage and have a good work/life balance… AND you aren’t public-facing which is amazing.

Why don't you volunteer with a healthcare-related initiative or Habitat for Humanity and start giving back and interacting with other people, from a variety of backgrounds?

As a bio major myself, its a pretty worthless degree career wise if you arent going into medicine or higher education

I mean the cool part is that this type of thinking probably didn't come from you. So its not really who you are. Which means someday you will learn to shed it, and come out stronger. All i can say is, hold on tight, you never know when help is right around the corner. Its perfectly okay to be where you are, and you are very deeply loved and needed by the world. You're going to make it!

Hey im 34M and last year at 33 years old i was where you are now. Ill tell ya great your a loser accept it. Now that you’ve accepted it you can start getting on your feet. Losers eventually become winners at something. At 34 im still a loser but ill tell ya what im a lot less of one because im striding towards a goal. I take care of my habits. Yes you heard me not of myself but my habits. Let me explain. I take care of the habits of good hygiene brush my teeth wash up and moisturize and apply sunscreen. These habits take care of me. You see old me beat myself up for having terrible hygiene but I realized if took care of the habit it take care of me in exchange. Thats one example im less of a loser from a year ago.

Ill tell you have one thing over me that i want bad is a bachelors degree. So you’re already head of the game. Figure out what you want and take care of those habits that will lead you to where you want to be.

go back and learn a trade or learn GOOGLE ad words

Have you considered teaching?

Go back to school for radiology.

Nursing.

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