For those of us that think that Biden staying in the race is disastrous and would basically hand the election to Trump, what are our options at a grass roots level to push for change? I know those in positions of power who share this view are lobbying using their own means, but what is the average person to do? Should we be protesting? Calling our representatives? I haven’t seen this angle discussed and yet if this situation is as dire as many of us believe, shouldn’t EVERYONE be doing EVERYTHING in their power to persuade Biden to step down?
I second this approach, I also reached out to my state's Democratic Party officers. I got a quick response from one of them, but it came across a bit condescending and dismissive to me so I put him on blast. I'd reach out to any local democratic politicians running for election too, they're the ones most impacted by this because Biden's going to kill the down-ballet races.
Show up at town halls and other public appearances of democratic politicians and express your concerns. Calmly and politely. https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
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Signed
Incredible! Thank you
That petition doesn't even have 100 signers on it yet. I seriously doubt it will have any affect. None of these online petitions ever really did; this one certainly won't unless it's signed by hundreds of thousands over the next week.
The phonebank is a great idea, I wish I could join today but work beckons.
No worries! And once we get a hundred, other media outlets, political voices and others could pick it up and share it on social media, It could blow up! It happens all the time with petitions.
Please take the time to sign. It’s incredibly important.
Sign this petition if you want to give tRump his best shot at winning.
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Every civil rights advancement we’ve ever made in this country have been in part due to protests! So yes, we need them, in addition to getting our people into power and motivating unengaged people to vote and organize.
I think protests should happen at every conservative court in the country. Not a campus: go to the people who have the power and make their life suck. I’m not talking about violence. I’m talking peaceful protest that is nonetheless strategic. SCOTUS’ life should be a living hell, every day.
They should work for the people, not the other way around.
Join local orgs; people there have the resources you’re looking for. If you aren’t an experienced political organizer, the best way to learn to be one is by joining orgs and helping experienced organizers. It’s not a recipe you can look up.
Look in the mirror you're part of the problem.
Honestly I don't think its about normal people doing anything at this point. Maybe unsubscribing from democrat donor lists if anything until Biden resigns, but really we're just waiting for polling data, then the "pros" will make their decision. I kind of think they're not gonna be able to right the ship and backing out will be the most face-saving move, and its just too difficult for them to accept that over a weekend. I'm actually feeling hopeful right now for the first time in a year. I'll freak out if he doesn't back out before the July 15th deadlines, but I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt that he'll eventually come to the right decision.
I am flip flopping between the hope that you’ve described and existential dread based on whatever headline I’m reading at the moment lol. For example, this morning’s reporting seems to indicate that their family gathering yesterday only strengthened his resolve to stay in the race. Seems like a bad sign since I think his inner circle will be the only ones able to convince him.
Literally no matter what happens I will be filled with existential dread until November, and then realistically until January 6th/20th after that even with a good result. It is impossible to get rid of the existential dread so I have stopped trying.
Even if Democrats win that still means a man with dementia is leading the country, and that is scary in a different way
It's his wife. She is unrelenting in pushing him forward. It is borderline abuse at this point. His entire reputation and career will be ruined in the annuls of history if he loses to Trump in November, just like RBG. Why is he letting people delude him into throwing it all away in his final hour of a long and storied career???
There’s also been some reporting that big donor dollars have been drying up since the debate. So it’s possible that Biden campaign backers see the writing on the wall and are applying financial pressure.
If I think as a family member, I’m probably not going to tell my family member to drop out. I’m there to support them, not give strategic political advice. If I’m a comms person, we are going to keep saying full throatedly that Biden is 100% the candidate. Any hesitation will spiral, but Biden can decide in a week to drop out, so this is leaving all doors open.
But most importantly, if I’m Biden, I’m going through some stuff. I’m seeking counsel from lots of people, thinking about my legacy, whether dropping out actually improves the chances of beating Trump, and if so, am I endorsing Harris?
Right now, we can only speculate what will happen. I think the timelines where he drops out or stays in look the same at this time period. I think that the first inkling we will get that he is retiring is background reports from aides, or an A-list Democrat (probably Obama, Pelosi, or congressional leadership) publicly calling for a brokered convention.
Why wouldn't you tell a family member to drop out under these circumstances?
Because I am putting myself and my family ahead of the health of the republic. Doesn’t make them bad people, but the story makes sense if you set aside the politics and existentialism of it and just think about how a family would react to outsiders attacking their extremely powerful and famous patriarch
because being related to a sitting President carries all kinds of material benefits...?
Same reason as always
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What happens to those who survive on SS? The disabled and others? These populations will end up homeless, if not already. With homelessness being illegal, will people go to camps?
The people in this thread are the existential threat.
I disagree. I do think contacting your reps is worthwhile. It's good for them to hear from their active constituents and it could push them to push Biden. Especially if they're up for election. You could even say that you may sit out the election if Biden is on the ballot. I've heard people saying as much already.
Polls will help, but so will people making their voices heard.
What July 15 deadlines?
Ohio requires Democrats to vote on their nominee before the convention to get the nominee's name on the ballot. Dems are holding a virtual vote then as a result.
I thought the deadline was August 7 or something like that? I think it was on one of Ezra's recent episodes. I could be wrong though
Right the Ohio deadline is August 7th, the Democrats decided to hold the virtual nomination in the middle of July.
Yeah there really isn’t much average people can do. We weren’t given a choice in the primary (hard to count Dean Phillips as a choice) so Biden has all the pledged delegates. And as long as he stays in the race I doubt there would be a massive operation by the delegates to go against that. For starters, who would they vote for instead if nobody else has officially come forward?
Calling your rep is probably just preaching to the choir. They are probably just as much wishing he would drop out, especially if he/she is in a tight race where turnout matters.
I’d say if you do get contacted by a polling firm to indicate that have an unfavorable view of Biden and plan not to vote - even though you will anyway. If the polls continue to nose dive, more donors will come out calling for him to drop out, which will cascade down to more members of Congress doing so as well and will continue to snowball to where I think it will just be too much for him to weather.
Calling your Representatives and/or Senators is a good idea (if they’re Dems.)
Yeah I think I’m going to do this today
Do this every day.
Good point
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what do you say when you call them?
I ask them to see if the official still endorses President Biden even after the disastrous debate, and then I urge whoever picked up the phone to tell their elected, that democrats do not WANT Biden to run and that their endorsement of him is damaging our party.
This.
Don't donate for the next month or so (once it's locked in whatever way do).
That's about it. It's elite decision makers now.
Update: I just called and messaged both of my senators online. There weren’t exactly any good options for selecting a “legislative issue” on the website so I had to improvise and select “Senior Citizens” as the subject 😅
I did the same
Mine are all republicans so all I can do is sit and watch the shitshow.
Reach out to your Democratic state officials: https://democrats.org/who-we-are/state-parties/state-party-websites/
We need to put everyone in the party on blast until they get the message.
I think if enough people contact representatives at all levels of leadership at house and senate and the White House it can make a difference. But do it now
We’re going to see swing state polling in a couple weeks. If it’s bad news, there’s still time.
It’s already coming in and looking bad. Should hopefully have a very clear direction by the end of this week
Respond to every campaign text asking for money that you won’t donate to a single race until he’s off the ticket.
The only thing party leaders respond to is money.
Pretty sure those are all automated and you wouldn’t be replying to an actual person though…I agree with the sentiment though
They're automated, but a real person will often reply if you try to cancel to change your mind. That's my experience, anyway.
Worked the Hillary campaign. Humans see the responses or they’re summarized across groups with machine learning.
Good to know, thanks for the info
Just donate to tRump then.
Do you seriously not have people in your life who would rather vote for any other democrat in the country but Biden?? That is very much my experience.
Damn this energy 2020 would have been nice lol
Brace for impact. Non-facetiously, I’d suggest volunteering and helping your local community (mutual aid). Federal politics is going to be closed off to liberal policy goals for a very long time, so just try and help out around locally.
This is an instance where organized peaceful protest could have a pretty direct impact.
As a concerned Canadian, please Americans, take to the streets. It’s existential.
In electing tRump.
Write letters to the editor in your local newspaper calling out your elected democrats by name for not publically calling for Biden to end his campaign.
You want your elected officials to see your view on something and take action, this is the best way to do it.
Superdelegates. Contact elected officials.
The DNC created the superdelegate 'circuit breaker' in the mid-1970's to prevent the voters from nominating another McGovern. If ever the DNC needs to use their circuit-breaker, now is the time.
At the very least, if contacted by any polling organization, say you will support Trump. Who knows, people like us might be enough to nudge the polls ever so slightly since we pick up the phone
At least that's honest because that's what you're doing.
Anyone supporting Biden remaining on the ticket is supporting Trump.
Organize protests. Call your representative and senator. Write letters to the DNC. Make noise.
Give money to tRump.
I live close to the DC area and I'm thinking of making some protest signs to hold at the 4th of July parade.. it would be cool if there could get a bigger protest going somewhere
"Boy Who Cried Wolf" syndrome. People don't actually think the outcome of this election matters as much as they say it does online. It's a lot of hyperbole. I don't think people on this subreddit are going to like this answer, but the lack of action other than angry posting on social media demonstrates that people don't really think this election will result in an existential threat to Americans. Most people just think if Trump wins, it'll be another republican in the White House for 4 years.
I really wish sometimes, and I don't direct this at you in particular, that Americans would realise this election is more about the state of the world than it is about their own wellbeing.
It's an existential issue for Ukraine, it's a major problem for any attempt to mitigate climate change, to stem a dangerous collapse in global structures, and a rising likelihood of larger wars.
Putting the world through this is just unacceptable behaviour of a major power, before considering the impacts on Americans.
I can tell you what doesn't accomplish anything: arguing and discussing things on Reddit (or really doing anything online).
Remember this episode? https://www.vox.com/2020/3/11/21172064/politics-is-for-power-eitan-hersh-the-ezra-klein-show
Remember that doing politics -- that is, getting people to vote or change their vote -- is really, really hard, boring, unrewarding work.
I say this as someone who, at the moment, can't be bothered to do much more than vote. So I'm admitting that things aren't so bad that I'm going to do anything about it.
Want to know what the average person can do? I think a more revealing question is: how bad do things need to get before you are going to start sacrificing time and energy to effect change. And anything online doesn't count.
Once a critical mass of average people that things are bad enough to warrant real sacrifice (not just posting on Reddit or FB while watching TV), then this mass of average people will do things like: volunteer for campaigns, join advocacy groups, attend local government meetings, engage in protests, community projects, educate on policy issues, run for office, boycott misaligned businesses, and so on.
Oh, and they will do these things day in and day out. Just going to one "march" here and there doesn't count. The average people will sacrifice time -- free time -- and energy and money. Sacrifice that might affect your job, your video game time, your time with kids, your hobbies, your exercise regimen.
I am admitting that I do none of that stuff. And yet I recognize that that is how change comes about.
You cannot have it both ways. Complaining on Reddit, sending emails to reps, sending five bucks through an app, etc. doesn't count. If you can do it on the toilet, it doesn't move the needle. Even if a million people do it.
So what can the average person do? Look in the mirror and ask if things really so bad that I am going to make any real sacrifice to do anything about it.
Move to Red states and red areas. Turn them blue (or at least purple) and get a huge majority in Congress.
Start with swing states.
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Do you have any idea what's involved in switching candidates at this stage? Maybe you should spend a couple semesters studying that and then maybe, maybe you might make some sense.
Maybe you should try to explain to me how Biden isn’t a risk to losing this election. It can be done, it has been done before and we need a better candidate
Protests. Especially in DC, especially where SCOTUS live. They need to be hounded. These fascist pigs have no fear. I mean, that just gave Biden de facto immunity because they know he won’t use it against them!
Biden has no reason not to sign an executive order now expanding the court. I mean, it’s an “official” act, right? And Biden needs to show strength after that weak ass debate. But we need to signal this to him relentlessly.
Do you not know the difference between civil and criminal law
If I was a legal expert I wouldn’t be posting takes in the Ezra Klein subreddit, so no!
Then perhaps stop jumping to conclusions about case law that almost no one understands!
No thank you, you’re a stranger on the internet and didn’t even bother to correct what I supposedly got wrong and you’re being smarmy
Organize.
Go on mobilize.us to find a campaign to support near you.
Get your passport.
Volunteer and get Dems elected down-ballot. Regardless of your feeling about Biden staying on the ticket, this is the most important thing you could do.
The game is rigged.
Nothing will change, act accordingly.
538 still has Biden slightly favored to win: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo
Yeah, well, not anymore.
Yes, flipped to 50/49 Trump: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo
Ask yourself if Republicans are having this same crisis of faith. Their nominee is a convicted rapist, has multiple fraud convictions including defrauding multiple charities, a habitual liar, and knows nothing about policy... And yet where are the calls for him to step down? Where are the Republicans crying that they have to pull out every stop to get Trump to step down?
It doesn't exist because Republicans understand that unity under a bad candidate is better than a civil war to find the best candidate. Democrats need to learn that lesson too.
An old feeble Joe Biden is not a threat to democracy. Donald Trump is.
An old feeble Joe Biden is not a threat to your basic rights. Donald Trump is.
And if the fact that Donald Trump presents a clear and present danger to democracy isn't enough of a reason for you to vote against him, then you need to re-examine what you want out of this country.
The people in this sub aren't the ones you need to convince to vote for Biden in order to save democracy. It's all the other people out there who get their news from the television and just saw, with their own eyes, that Biden is unwell.
Biden is absolutely a threat to democracy if he is not a viable candidate, just like RBG was a threat when she refused to step down. You can't put 100% of the blame on voters and 0% on the party and the candidates, that's not how this works. If the Democrats are making a strategic error by running a bad candidate - not to mention someone who is incapable of doing the job - then that needs to be addressed for the sake of us all.
The ONLY threats to democracy are the people threatening democracy. That's it. This cavalier language about being a threat to democracy bc he's not stomping Trump in the polls is feeding right into the voter apathy you're trying to overcome.
Instead of doing that, use your energy to make the case that this election is about Trump being a threat to democracy, not about whether we should find someone who excites voters more. Bc the only thing these Internet discussions do is provide fuel for apathetic voters to underestimate what's at stake if they don't vote Dem.
Do you think apathetic voters read political Reddit?
Are the apathetic voters in the room with you now?
These people aren't here. Stop trying to use voters to censor. Obviously people and activists need to run a line in certain contexts. This isn't one of them. People aren't going to turn their whole political existence into lies out of terror someone might see they don't think Biden is young.
No. Apathetic voters get a feel for the room based on the conversations that are happening. And the more of these conversations that happen in niche spaces, the more they bleed into general media, and then pop culture.
Or did you think apathetic voters suddenly become politically savvy about taxes and immigration in the month leading up to the election?
I'll repeat myself:
They're willing to go through a public civil war because otherwise trump will win.
I get it. Dems are losing. It's shit.
If you can just get everyone to clap harder, that feels like helping. Gives a sense of agency. Makes things better. Your doing the work. Your pushing that needle every way you can. Good job.
Guess what? You could be the super activist of your dreams and get everyone on /r Ezra Klein to put on a mask and pretend Biden isn't senile when posting here.
Guess what? It won't change a single vote in suburban PA and WI. It won't change the election trajectory at all. Because nobody here is a swing voter. And because none of it would be sincere.
And it won't change the fact that Biden is a disastrous candidate who will lose and we should change.
It's rubbish. We all know the situation is bad. But your clap harder super activism is just another kind of cope. It's useful when your out knocking on doors! It is useless here. In fact, if activists can't even get real in spaces like this it actually just leads to more burnout.
Agree 100%. You said it all and well.
Trump will win if we allow apathetic voters to believe that being a threat to democracy is less of a negative than being old.
The only way we convince them that being a threat to democracy is the ultimate sin in a democracy is by giving no quarter to any message that tries to bring in other factors that might persuade voters to not vote.
No one is holding their nose and pulling a lever for Trump because Biden is old. Trump wins because people who should care about democracy are being given a pass to not care because the other guy is old.
You really can't see outside the clap harder box. Best wishes to you.
The crisis isn't if we prefer Biden to be elected. It's that he's losing and that's not going to change.
Gop are happy because they are winning. And that's the whole problem.
If Biden is on the ballot do you think anyone in this sub wouldn't vote for him? That's not at issue. But he'll lose the election. That's the problem.
You think if Donald Trump was down in the polls, the GOP would be entertaining replacing him? Hell no. They'd stick behind him until the election was over. They've settled on supporting a horrendous candidate bc unity is more important right now than virtue signaling.
Yeah, they're in a cult, we're not. You're advocating for us to be more culty?
You think all the Republicans supporting him actually worship Trump? You think all those millionaires and billionaires chasing tax cuts actually by the nonsense coming out of his mouth? No. But they know what they have to do to get what they want, and the first step is getting Trump in office.
This is what people don’t get, they think the whole of the GOP is a cult. Yes there are those that worship Trump but majority simply want to see their ideology win and are willing to unite under any circumstance to see it happen.
This fighting in public does nothing but make people think Democrats are even weaker. I swear this sub has to be filled with 20 something’s who have voted in one, maybe two elections, and don’t understand real strategy. Putting their feelings above reality
The republicans have an advantage because the electoral college essentially hands them the election every time. Joe Biden is actually going to have to campaign and win over independents in key swing states. How is he going to do that if he looks like he did in the debate?
Why wouldn't Independence be won over by the track record of Biden's administration? If Biden's successes aren't enough to campaign on, then switching him out for a younger person isn't changing that.
And if that message is good enough, then you're asking independents to choose between THAT and the guy who's a clear and present danger to democracy.
Even with old, feeble Biden at the top of the ticket, how is that not a message that would win over independents?
Also cognitive decline is likely to get worse, you don’t seem to care about that at all.
Biden isn't building spaceships or flying planes, or doing anything that requires you to be at your sharpest. He's assembling teams based on a vision and a mission. It's much more important who he puts in positions of power than how we view his mental or cognitive abilities.
closed door 1 - on - 1 meetings with world leaders
go.
What exactly do you think is going to happen? He walks into a room with Putin and accidentally signs over California to Russia?
Every world leader knows that the president doesn't make unilateral decisions. And they aren't leading troops at the head of a formation like medieval times.
What slip up are you so worried about Biden committing that the existence of our world-leading military doesn't immediately squash? Or being at the head of the largest military/financial alliance in history?
My grandma butchered her will in the presence of undue pressure . She had cognitive decline.
Did I just refute your point in 14 words?
Sure if you have no idea how govt, laws, or treaties work.
"Hey guys, senile Biden just sold the White House to N Korea and told Putin he was the new Secretary Of Education."
Ok so what if his “sentiment” gets influenced
That’s invisible
However has real implications
Do invisible things exist to you? Or is everything selling the White House?
You have zero doubt that a worlds best salesman can influence somebody with cognitive decline?
If someone told you they were afraid of letting Biden meet with Putin bc Biden might sell Putin his Delaware home, would you believe that or recognize that fear as horseshit?
I’d recognize that as horseshit
If someone told you a cognitively diminished person was more easily “pushed - and - pulled”
I would call you reasonable
how can you refute this?
They wouldn’t, but their base is basically a cult. That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be a mistake. If Republicans actually did do this, they would trounce Biden without question.
The Trump base might be a cult, but they aren't the ones responsible for what narrative shows up on Fox primetime. DC insiders, the rich, and the connected shape the conversations we have by introducing them.
The reason we don't see coverage about replacing Trump is because the powers that be in the right-wing media ecosystem have decided that unity is the most important thing right now.
Meanwhile, the supposed left-wing media is having a civil war in the middle of campaign season about how they need someone better to defend democracy, as if defending democracy isn't a standalone concern.
The elite gop would in fact want to dump him. They wouldn't be able to because they're in a party where 30% of voters have a cult like attachment.
Are the Dems like that? I'd thought not. Nobody is virtue signalling. This is a solidly dem supporting sub. I don't think people are door knocking out the message that Biden is senile to the general electorate.
Of course the dem leadership has put that message on blast with the debate Trainwreck.
Exactly! You're making my point. 30% is too significant a number to have a civil war over. They chose unity instead of going to war with the 30% who already committed to the horrific candidate. That's not cult behavior. That's pragmatic.
And this is virtue signaling because the left is wringing their hands about needing a candidate that needs to excite the masses instead of accepting that the end goal of saving democracy is all that matters. They're willing to go through a public civil war just so that they can say the ends don't justify the means.
They're willing to go through a public civil war because otherwise trump will win.
I get it. Dems are losing. It's shit.
If you can just get everyone to clap harder, that feels like helping. Gives a sense of agency. Makes things better. Your doing the work. Your pushing that needle every way you can. Good job.
Guess what? You could be the super activist of your dreams and get everyone on /r Ezra Klein to put on a mask and pretend Biden isn't senile when posting here.
Guess what? It won't change a single vote in suburban PA and WI. It won't change the election trajectory at all. Because nobody here is a swing voter. And because none of it would be sincere.
And it won't change the fact that Biden is a disastrous candidate who will lose and we should change.
It's rubbish. We all know the situation is bad. But your clap harder super activism is just another kind of cope. It's useful when your out knocking on doors! It is useless here. In fact, if activists can't even get real in spaces like this it actually just leads to more burnout.
An old, feeble Joe Biden is a threat to democracy because he is very likely to lose the election to Trump.
Yes, and definitionally "we don't know who's running the country, but it's probably not the person we elected" is a threat to democracy.
and he's likely to make poor decisions when he's in mental decline
This argument misses the mark for me. First, it’s a given that left leaning people thing Trump shouldn’t be running, but that won’t change the fact that Republicans will support Trump no matter what. I think people who share my view that Biden needs to step down think so precisely BECAUSE Trump is such a threat to democracy. Running such a historically weak candidate against Trump will all but guarantee a Trump victory. Right now we have the option to take another path and I think we should do everything in our power to make that happen.
This argument is going to kill us. Stop saying WHY you’re voting for Biden when people criticise putting him on the ticket. You’re preaching to the choir. The point is, he is going to LOSE to Trump.
Explain how he loses to Trump
He was losing in every poll in every swing state (except for Wisconsin, where they were tied) BEFORE he gave the single worst presidential debate performance of all time. Voters have time and again said they think he’s too old to be president. If you think Biden has a chance of winning you’re not paying attention. But feel free to set me straight.
So you're saying that toss up voters, if given a choice between a candidate who is a clear and present threat to democracy, a serial fraudster, and a convicted rapist vs the old guy, would vote for the dictator-rapist?
Joe Biden is fucking losing in the polls right now??? Yes, I am saying that toss up voters with go for Trump.
If you want to sit about feeling all high and mighty, complaining about how terrible Trump is on an Ezra Klein pod subreddit where everyone’s in the same bubble as you — go right ahead. But that’s why the dems are going to lose the election. If you care at all about stopping Trump, go get a reality check.
You actually believe that if given a choice, most apathetic voters are going to say "give me the dictator-rapist bc the other guy is old"...🤨 You seriously think that's how the average person would process the choice between Trump and Biden?
The far more likely scenario is that a bunch of voters decide not to vote because they don't like either guy.
And I'm arguing here bc hopefully some other Dem has to make the case to his apathetic circle about why they shouldn't this election out, and sees a valid argument to make.
Dude, go read a fucking poll and stop basing your argument on what you want to be the case. Or just go talk to people outside your little bubble. “People will never vote for a rapist-dictator…” people voted for him twice now, he lost to Biden by 40,000 votes across 5 states. He is going to win on November 5th unless something massive changes.
The problem with polls is that when they fly in the face of common sense, it's usually because those polls are wrong.
Usually we have to look backwards to find that discrepancy, but right now that discrepancy is clear as a bell.
So feel free to cling on to the polls that say most voters are going to side against democracy bc the other guy is old, while ignoring the recent history of what voters do when they don't like either candidate.
RemindMe! 18 weeks
No it's because republicans like Trump. Simple as that.
There was a "real" primary and he won, easily. He is the one they want.
D’s aren’t calling for Trump to step down because they can’t. Most of them want him gone but they know that right now he’s the party.
The the Republican Party doesn’t support him, they’ll lose (probably forever) a huge chunk of their base (that part that worships Trump).
They’re tied to him until he dies. They probably can start moving on from him if he loses in November.
No one's asking Dems to call for Trump to step down. This is about Republicans asking Trump to step down.
And you're making my point. The GOP chose unity behind a bad candidate over civil war.
That was a typo (as the rest of m comment should have attested to). I meant R’s aren’t calling for Trump to step down, for the reasons I explained after, which I think makes it not analogous to the situation with Biden (it is analogous to Dems to rallying [enough] behind Clinton).
Of course, the real Issue isn’t Dems rallying to support their candidate. The real issue is the small sliver of voters in a few states that will decide the election. What will make them more likely to vote Dem-Biden, or whoever the Convention would replace Biden with
the strategy in your comment has never and will never work against trump. the problem with democrats is that they think they're both the smartest and most ethical people in the room all the time, which makes them appear smug and unapproachable.
Remember, you are not just voting for Biden. You were voting for his administration.
It’s not my vote that I’m worried about, it’s about everyone else’s who saw the disaster of a debate. Biden was already behind and this will certainly make that worse.
Do everything in your power to ensure Biden is reelected. If you don't, you're a tRump/pUtler supporter.
VOTE. That’s what we can do.
Stop framing this as Trump versus Biden. It’s fucking not. It’s Trumps SCOTUS, Congress, every large bureaucracy, all foreign affairs/policy, abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, education, DEI, pay equity, workforce protections, environment protections, separation of church and state, gun control, etc etc etc.
ITS EVERYTHING. Biden clearly ain’t it, and it’s shitty we have him, but this isn’t a normal election, and this isn’t a normal country anymore. We need to stop acting like this is a joke and treat it as the serious situation it is.
Don’t vote for Biden, vote for every judge he would put on the bench. Vote for an AG and justice department that isn’t corrupt and actively going to start punishing political enemies. Vote for a department of education that’s not run by someone who has never stepped foot into a public school.
Truly, it’s not just Biden doing the work. He’s not nearly as important as everything else that’s going to take a massive hit if Trump gets elected, least of all our actual democracy.
“this isn’t a normal country anymore. We need to stop acting like this is a joke and treat it as the serious situation it is.”
I 1000% agree which is why we need to consider drastic measures. Continuing on with Biden as if everything is fine is failing to address the seriousness of the situation in my opinion. We would be sleep walking into a second Trump term with all the horrible things that would bring with it.
Yea, and I’d love him to leave but I don’t think it’s going to happen, and I also don’t know if a new person would even be better.
We’re all on shit island but I know where my vote stands.
We must not only vote, we must VOTE HARDER!
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But you don't understand the situation.
Lots of people tried to stop Hitler and couldn't. The average person can't change history.
The average person may not be able to but a shit load of people certainly can.
There is nothing you can do.
The ticket should be Kamala Harris with Al Gore for VP. Solid, safe and a statement that climate is a priority. No risk that Al will be jockeying to run for President.
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I have contacted all my reps and am urging everyone I know to do the same. It sounds like the convention delegates maybe average connected local officials so also shake your networks and see if you know them and can open that line of communication. Be polite.