www.wired.com/story/russian-influence-campaign-exploiting-college-campus-protests/
A Russian Influence Campaign Is Exploiting College Campus Protests
NewsYes, it's all part of Putin's plan to destabilise the west by creating divisions. Most of this is done via social media either from within Russia or by Russians in other countries.
Geez, YouTube is full of them. Tons of trolls appeared almost overnight, like mushrooms. A lot of them are actually easily identifiable, because their nicks don't show properly (instead it shows: user28659...). I guess the licalisation in Russia creating this glitch since I know some regular Russians also encounter this problem.
Social media is a battleground. Ww3 has already begun.
Let's hope it doesn't spread out of the Internet
Not only youtube, they are everywhere even on reddit. They are paid "internet brigades" which a lot of the time use some western-style names (John Doe) for example and then post pure low quality propaganda and repost eachother. Its and extreme wide spread propaganda campaign with no bounds. Whenever they get caught and banned, the other trolls will scream Censorship — because they know that censorship is frowned upon in the west so the people will almost feel bad for them.
Yeah, I've noticed it on MapPorn recently, praising Russia and redrawing borders. Do we have some ways to fight against them?
The only real way to fight it is to educate people about history and to spread awarness about those mass internet brigades and how to spot them. I don't want to fearmonger but those bots will cause some serious damage in the long run. Everything from election to economy will be effected and influenced if not already. Banning them won't realy change anything since they can hop on another account and continue.
How does Russia inviting a Hamas delegation to the Kremlin influence the pro Israel crowd?
It doesn't matter what they do in moscow. What matters is what their agents are spewing locally.
Whole different thing. Their networks/bots publish/push basically whatever to create division. The government supports/allies whatever is beneficial, i.e. Iran/NK or at that point basically the enemy of my enemy with Hamas
Israel still refuses to impose sanctions on Russia and freely does business.
Many Israeli regime members are of Russian diaspora.
They are much closer than many think
I mean, Jews have always had very strong ties with communists, many communist governments had big Jewish representation in them. USSR supported creation if Israel and, in turn, Israel was spreading the narration favourable for USSR. Is it not well known?
Edit: lmao. You guys got offended over something that's not there. Israel and USSR were tied to each other in the first years of Israel's existence. Most of the first government was socialist or Marxist and socialist inclinations were wide spread at the time- which is a whole reason why Stalin hoped to make Israel his sphere of influence.
The whole point is that such influences don't disappear overnight, just because a country changes its politics (as seen on the example of many post-communist countries, that are still fighting to cleanse themselves of the Russian manipulation). It was revealed a few years ago that throughout the years KGB had many agents in Knesset and in Israel's military. It wouldn't be suprising at all if they were still there, just not Soviet anymore but Russian. Especially seeing how murky their actions towards each other and the relationship between Putin and Netanjahu are.
The USSR doesn’t exist lol
What?
Sorry if that news is shocking
Lol. When do you think Israel was eatablished?
Dude, what's your point xD Is it so shocking that Russia still has some ties with countries that were previously tied to the USSR controlled from Moscow?
Not true
What is not true?
Communism is an atheist dogma. Jews were severely oppressed in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union public rejected Zionism for years until Gorbachev made significant reforms and opened the borders for Jews to leave.
One thing doesn't exclude the other. I doubt those Jews who joined communist parties cared whether they're atheist or not. Being regularly persecuted by the establisment, it's no surprise that many of them looked for refuge in the anti-establishment parties. That is not to say that this is what the general Jewish population supported or that they would treat them well, but it serves as counterbalance to the nationalistic ideas. Up to the 50's communism and zionism had a lot in common. Jews were commonly seen among the Bolsheviks which allowed for the conspiracy judeo-bolshevism theories to be born.
I can't speak for other countries, but Jews played a dominant role in the Polish Communist Party (KPP), as well as in the post war Communist government. Most of the Jewish population left due to Holocaust and antisemitism, and those who stayed, did so because they saw a future for themselves in the Soviet state (like many of the KPP members who survived the war hiding in Moscow). Anyway, there were many prominent Jewish figures in the highest echelons, e.g. Jakub Berman and Hilary Minc (2/3 of the Stalinist triumvirate), as well as almost 40% of the Ministry od Public Security, despite Jewish people constituting only 1% of the general population at the time (among them the infamous Salomon Morel, who later fled to Israel)
USSR was the first country to aknowledge Israel, they also funded the Communist Party there. They were also relatively supportive in the first years, hoping to turn Israel into a socialist state.
USSR supported creation of Israel
Until the first israeli elections in 1949 after which it was clear Israel would not be soviet ally.
Israel was spreading the narration favourable for USSR.
Lmao
Yes. And during this first years they were trying to remain on USSR's good side.
Xenophobia
I’m surprised you didn’t just go straight for the tired crocodile tears of anti-semitism
You brought up antisemitism, not me. I wonder why
Why did you bring up xenophobia?
Because saying that because there is Russian diaspora in Israel means they’re closer than everyone thinks is ignorant and xenophobic. There’s a Russian diaspora in Israel because Jews were severely persecuted in the Soviet Union. Plus, I dare you to tell me the name of one Russian minister in the Israeli war cabinet.
Israel literally flat out refuses to enforce western sanctions on Russia.
They have sent non lethal aid to Ukraine, and relations severely deteriorated after oct 7. Sanctions is just the next step but Israel is kinda busy rn.
Ever heard of Benjamin Mileikowsky? You known their PM? That's his real name.
Bibi was born in Israel. If you’re referring to his heritage, it’s polish not Russian.
At the same time, Putin says that Israel is a Russian speaking country
He said this in 2019, relations have significantly deteriorated since then. Plus, Israel is not a Russian speaking country
Tell me how does it fit when Netanyahu visited Putler 3 times post-invasion during 2022 and early 2023.
The only that fits: Clero-fascists and Fascists trying to play off everyone in the West against themselves.
This is not true
Where are you getting your information from
Russia finances pro-Israel crowd and has invited their delegations to the Kremlin as well.
Russia's playing both sides. The more the west fights itself the weaker it becomes.
Evidence?
It would be strange if Russia doesn't support pro-Hamas movement in US.
The article states that they support both pro-Hamas and pro-Israel narratives. They care about division more than either side.
This is the most important single thing for people to understand about Russian cyber warfare (and that's what this is). The point is rarely for them to support a side or the other, the point is to widen the fissure of the dispute and sow distrust for the system. They've been doing this shit since the end of WW II at least, but the internet has supercharged it beyond the USSR's wildest dreams.
Anything that causes division (seemingly for no real factual reason) in the West is almost always grown from seeds planted by its enemies. It's been so obvious with the rise of social media but shocking how blunt and obvious it is.
I'd say it's the opposite actually. The seeds are there, our enemies just water them. To take this conflict as an example, extremely pro-Israel sentiments have been common in American society for a long time now. Similarly, ideas surrounding the notion that the world can be divided into oppressor and oppressed and that there is no wrong way for the oppressed to fight back against oppression -ideas that are at the heart of the pro-Hamas arguments- have been spreading through American institutions and particularly education like wildfire for over a decade now. The metaphorical fault line was already there, all that Russia is doing is fanning the flames.
The American situation is a bit different than in Europe though as it's a two party system and not a parliamentary democracy. The footballification of political issues is much further gone there compared to what we see even if Europe tends to mimic every now and then through history.
The Israel - Palestine conflict is a relic from the cold war though. It's just very convenient for malicious actors that the trenches are still there and on the right sides to continue the same chaos as it fueled back then. The problem with American institutions is that they only look at the world and each culture as an extension of America - this goes for many things outside of educational institutions as well.
They also supported and opposed BLM, they look to create further division and chaos while giving zero fucks about ideology.
No. The article doesn't even mention Hamas.
A Russian influence campaign seems to be attempting to sow division in the US around the college campus protests.
As protests at universities across the country—and the responses to them by college authorities and law enforcement—continue to stoke division and anger, the Kremlin appears to have taken a page from its foreign influence playbook, using its disinformation infrastructure in collaboration with state-run media and Telegram influencers in an effort to further divide American society.
Over the past week, a disinformation campaign operated by the Kremlin-aligned network Doppelganger amassed over 130,000 views on X, according to data shared exclusively with WIRED by Antibot4Navalny, a collective of anonymous Russian researchers who have spent years tracking the Russian influence operation.
Is 130k views considered a lot?
130000 is what Twitter celebrity gets at first 15 minutes on "I pooped" post
I’d say it could be if targeted properly. Also, this is just the network that was found. How many more go undetected
Not necessarily on Twitter, Elon Musk did something to the view count so the number is always ludicrously high. At least part of that is that scrolling past a video without watching any of it counts as a 'view'.
Russian disinformation workers just hope their posts get picked up and then shared.
But the point is Russia is making this volatile situation worse. Russia doing evil the world over since 1991. They are the bad guys.
Most disinformation on these protests comes from Israel, who smears them as anti-semitic. In fact, at almost every Pro-Palestinian encampment there is a noticeable Jewish block. Russians may indeed use the situation to attack the West, but this does not take away from the core message of the protests just because Russians happen to benefit from them.
Normal protests just showing some Swastikas :).
USC:
https://youtu.be/XqbZtOuKVVo?si=atw0mTTtYMiq1qIs
Stanford:
NYC (high school)
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/nyregion/racist-graffiti-swastikas-beacon-high-school.html
Colombia
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/04/28/jewish-students-campus-protests-israel-gaza/
University of Wisconsin:
Virginia (high school):
Fairfax (high school)
The were drawn on several walls in the building the Colombia kids broke into
Swastikas are drawn, so what? Who drew them? What is more likely, is that Zionists did that in order smear the peaceful Pro-Palestinian protest. At the same time, pro-Israeli mob attacked the UCLA encampment which was documented pretty extensively including with video footage. https://forward.com/opinion/608479/ucla-violence-campus-protests/
The official demands of the protests have nothing to do with anti-Semitism. They are: boycott, divest from and sanction Israel, until it stops the slaughter Palestinians in Gaza, ends the occupation and apartheid and restores Palestinians in their human rights. Everything else is completely irrelevant.
Zionists
Just call the Jews what you really want to bro, you don't have to code it, we all know what you actually mean
You silly, Zionist does not mean a Jew. There are both Zionist Christians (not Jews) as well as anti-zionist Jews. I have a Jewish background myself.
You are just coping. Your whole argument is "wahetever is against my imaginary world is zionist propaganda"
None of the links you shared show evidence thar swastikas were drawn by protestors.
Yea ..totally normal protest , nothing to see here
Totally normal Israeli pogrom, nothing to see https://twitter.com/teresawatanabe/status/1785580909795942766
If these protests do not condemn the uncompromising anti-Jewish genocidal nature of Hamas, then they're themselves misinformation/disinformation and actually support one side, rather than a durable peace, regardless of whether they're conscious of it or not. But if they offer a message and way forward that would stop both Israel and Iran from encouraging this war, then I'd regard them as sensible. Anyone who at this point fails to see both sides bear heavy blame for the conflict is fueling and complicit in it.
In the old days of Korea, they used to be starving after the war. So "Did you eat?" became a greeting. They should make "do you condemn Hamas?" a new greeting for this generation.
I would like to see the Spiderman movies and comics remade, so that Peter Parker asks civilians in danger if they condemn Hamas, and if they fail to respond he lets them fall to their deaths.
Again, your side refuses to stop killing people and stealing foreign money because of fanaticism. You ARE complicit in it, just like the Israelis are.
Dude, which side are you talking about? The dude you are replying to indeed is not killing anyone nor stealing money.
If people like him make an irrational comparison and always try to get high-and-mighty, they must be taken down a notch. You can be against both sides when that's what the reality dictates, and they utterly fail that.
Yeah, so did Winnie Mandela. I wonder why.
I started thinking to myself. What did he do to make them that mad?
Mandela fought for equality and democracy. Iran and Hamas fight to kill Israelis, Jews, steal money for humanitarian purposes, and construct a totalitarian wasteland. It's shameful for you to even attempt the comparison.
That's crazy. So South Africa as a nation seems to agree with me, Mandela led a party that did the same shit, but I should take your word for what Nelson Mandela would have wanted or what honors his memory. Fascinating.
Next up: Charlie Kirk and the leader of the Mississippi Klan hosting a MLK Jr. commeration event
That's not me saying it, that's all the historians, scholars and eyewitnesses who know him, and his own statements. Take it with them.
Yes and MLK Jr. would have been against affirmative action because of that 1 quote about judging a man by his character. Ignore his lifetime "racial obsession", pay attention to what I'm saying and what is convenient for me.
There is no both sides here. It is Israel who occupies Palestinian territories, Hamas does not occupy Israel. It is Israel who imposed apartheid regime on millions of Palestinians, not Hamas. It is Israel who is waging a genocidal war against Palestinians, not Hamas. Regarding condemning Hamas, most reasonable people do condemn war crimes by HAMAS on Oct 7.
No, that's not how it works. Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and many other such groups have actively worked for and tried to destroy Israel over the decades, no ifs, buts and ands, and have refused sensible peace offers for Palestinians to stop this. They've simply lacked means to do more damage than what they've been able to. Of course, again, Israel is no less complicit, as I said. I'm simply countering your one-sided assertion, which is completely divorced from reality. I suggest you read from both sides, rather than just one.
It's people like you who are at fault for the blood of millions of all those people over the decades.
Bullshit. If Israel was serious about peace, they wouldn't engage in settlement expansion in the West Bank, forceful evictions of Palestinians from their homes in East Jerusalem and ruthless bombing campaigns in Gaza, all before Oct 7, in total violation of international law.
Thank you for explaining one side of the conflict. And no, that's not the whole truth, that's only part of the puzzle.
I do not deny the terrorism by Palestinian militant groups, and I do not approve of violence against civilians, but you cannot equate the oppressor and the oppressed. The argument that Palestinians refuse the offer to gain their freedom back by those who deny them this very freedom is disingenuous. It is as if to blame Ukrainians for not cooperating with Russians - which Russian propaganda does all the time.
Giving in to Hamas (not Palestine, since there's no freely elected government there) is just setting the stage for further conflict down the road, since Iran continues to fund it unscrutinized, or sets the stage for the elimination of Israel and advance of totalitarianism. The solution is for a joint strip to be administered by non-Israeli international peacekeeping forces, holding free and fair elections there, and instill a democratic culture there. You can blame Israel for blockading (though not occupying) Gaza all this time, but you have to admit that the totalitarian regime there, which represses the freedoms of its people, steals humanitarian money, constantly sends rockets against Israel, and instills hatred against it and Jews in general, rather than developing Gaza, doesn't help things at all, does it?
Why is it so difficult for you to understand that all those pro-Israeli and de facto pro-Hamas (again, not pro-Palestine) people, who refuse to understand the perspective of the other side, can never solve this? Each side sees those who keep advocating solely for the other as wanting to destroy them because there're ample reasons for that.
There is no Hamas in the West Bank, yet Israel occupies it illegally while oppressing Palestinians there for decades. Hamas is a product of Israeli occupation and appeared 20 years into the it. First Intifada was largely non violent uprising against occupation which was brutally suppressed by Israel. All the subsequent violence is solely Israel's responsibility. The current Israeli government consists of fascists that are no better than Hamas. Hamas is a convenient excuse for Israeli fascists to genocide Palestinians, which they openly admit.
Internal strife between nations is Russia's bread and butter.
For those who didn't read the article and assumed that this says 'Russia is organising the protests':
This time around, targeting a US audience, Doppelganger has promoted a fake Washington Post article with the headline “Soros Pays $30/Hour for Anti-Semitism.” The article claims, without evidence, that the protesters at US colleges “are financed by the Rockefeller and Soros foundations”—echoing claims about billionaire George Soros that have been boosted by mainstream media outlets and lawmakers in the US. The site looks identical to the real Washington Post website, except for the fact that it uses a small variation of the real URL. This post was shared in eight distinct posts on X, which were shared by over 750 bot accounts multiple times, creating almost 6,000 retweets in total, according to the researchers. The Doppelganger network uses a combination of “content bots,” which post the links, and “promotion bots,” which then boost those original tweets.
In this case, Russia is lying about the protests to stir US conservatives up.
Show of hands, who’s shocked?
These campus protests have spread to the Netherlands as well, and nearly every time they seem to be taken over by an extremist ragtag of anarchists, communists and fanatic muslims. Which, in turn, is ample fuel on our current far-right fire. It's painful to see.
In Germany it surprisingly seems to be limited to Berlin so far. It's worrying how unreflected some reactions are, on both sides.
In Bulgaria it's non-existent, although student activism in general is detached from universities. Still, support for anything pro-Palestinian is very low across the board.
Russia will support and influence, or try to, anything that’s divisive in Western societies. Doesn’t mean those protests are not justified.
Doesn’t mean those protests are not justified.
But shouting " Sinwar we won't let you die" and "jews go back to Poland" does delegitimise them enough
Russia wanting student protests to continue or escalate has no bearing on whether or not the cause they are protesting is just.
Hmm let's see, protestors calling everyone nazis if you don't accept their political views , Russia calling everyone against it, nazis. I really don't see a connection /s
The vast majority of Ukrainians - 69% - sympathize with Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and only 1% sympathize with Palestine.
Source: results of a survey of the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology, conducted November 29 - December
Literally, sociologists: 69% of Ukrainians sympathize with Israel. Only 1% sympathize with Palestine. At the same time, 18% of respondents answered that they sympathize with both sides equally. The remaining 12% could not decide on their opinion.
“Compared to all these countries, Ukraine is the most pro-Israel. In the USA, we see a predominance of those who sympathize with Israel, but there are 38% of them (that is, less than half). And although only 11% sympathize with Palestine, a significant part of Americans sympathize with both parties (28%) or “could not answer the question” (23%).In the UK, in general, the share of those who sympathize with Israel and Palestine is the same - 19% each. But 31% either “sympathize with both sides” or “difficult to answer the question.At the same time, Russia is the only one of these countries where they sympathize significantly more with Palestine (21%) rather than with Israel (6%).
Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with what he posted.
Likely a bot exactly like the article is about. New, adj+noun+number username, maybe triggered by a key word or poor reading comprehension but is unrelated to the comment, and the comment may seem just informative but on Reddit where there is a near even split on the I/P conflict but varying by sub (and likely many more just not getting involved), it's more likely to lead to those heavily siding with the P side to think Ukraine and Ukranian people must be bad too, which of course benefits Russia.
my comment redit dont show
so here a picture
i.imgur. com/ccmaSCh.jpeg
More like police react to peaceful protests calling for the end of needless US-backed murder by stamping on civil liberties and Russia uses this to their advantage. Who could have guessed this would make the US look bad?
Azov Battallion? What's that? Stepan Bandera? Never heard of him!
What about Wagner?
If you have extensive journalism showing the ideology of Wagner, feel free to link it. I think their ideology is $$$$
Metallicat with the assist. Fair enough, though Radio Free Europe is of course US state media and was created for propaganda purposes.
So what's the US's position? "Our" ukrainian nazis are the good guys, and the Wagner nazis are the bad guys?
"The group itself is believed to have been named after Utkin’s call sign Wagner, a reference to Richard Wagner, the favourite composer of German Nazi leader Adolf Hitler."
Fine, and there's at least as many links that attest to the prevalence of neo-nazi ideology in Ukraine, actually integrated into the chain of command
You just going to dodge the question or what? Our nazis are the good nazis?
Metalli-bellingcat
Another question to dodge -
One of those "pro-kremlin" militias that actually tried to overthrow the Kremlin, right?
ya think?
Thanks for sharing our story!
Over the past week, a disinformation campaign operated by the Kremlin-aligned network Doppelganger amassed over 130,000 views on X, according to data shared exclusively with WIRED by Antibot4Navalny, a collective of anonymous Russian researchers who have spent years tracking the Russian influence operation.
Doppelganger is well known for using a network of inauthentic bot accounts to spread links to fake versions of real news websites. In the past, the network has impersonated websites as diverse as Le Monde in France and Fox News in the US.
Today, we also spoke to the how student journalists reporting on their campus are trying to ward off disinformation. https://www.wired.com/story/student-journalists-campus-protests-disinformation
Good to show it, but actually not surprising.
Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian bot or shill
This but unironically.
And a good chunk of the people who agree with me, too.
Russia's whole thing is to play both sides of contentious issues against each other, so they're too busy fighting each other to even notice what Russia's doing, let alone try to stop them.
I knew it!
Nah fuck Israel
Ya think? I’ve said that from day 1. Tbh I also figured some boogaloo boys or other agitators were enthusiastically on board as well.
Everything I don't like is Russia!
Noooo way, what a surprise. It was ofcourse a complete coincidence that the "protests" started right at the same time when congress was going to pass aid for Ukraine. It's ofcourse totally not an attempt to sow more division in western society at all.
"The outside agitators are stirring up our negroes" - Southern US racists, 60 years ago
"The russians are sowing discord" - Gullible suckers fooled by US propaganda narratives, apparently unaware that discord in the USA requires zero sowing
This is just the latest propaganda to manufacture consent for ongoing proxy war
What's up Europe how you like being a US economic colony?
What do you mean "turned out?" You running independent investigations?
According to our spooks, who are also totally full of shit, see.
Ok, and what are you talking about?
? Saying that these disinformation campaigns are real in response to your original dismissal of this fact. Why don’t you stop trolling?
Disinformation campaigns are definitely real! Why not just call it propaganda?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/us/politics/congress-russian-bounties.html
Europe is definitely not a us colony. For example see the Russia pipelines that the us didn’t want to get built
Ukraine is for Israel. Russia is for Palestine. One of the paradoxes a modern man has to endure.
Why paradox? The brutal attackers on one side. The democratic defendors on the other.
You probably think others are super-propagandized too.
It couldn't possibly be organic protests in response to the scenes of utter destruction and barbarity we see where the IDF has used American weapons and munitions to kill tens of thousands of men, women and children.
No, it's a pesky Russian influence campaign!
How pathetic do you have to be to eat this shit up?
Prime example why foreign bot campaigns are so successful: this dude can‘t be arsed to read a short article but that doesn’t stop him from having an predetermined opinion on it.
If you'd read the article, the actual agenda the Russian disinformation was pushing was anti-Palestine, and designed to stir up US conservatives:
This time around, targeting a US audience, Doppelganger has promoted a fake Washington Post article with the headline “Soros Pays $30/Hour for Anti-Semitism.” The article claims, without evidence, that the protesters at US colleges “are financed by the Rockefeller and Soros foundations”—echoing claims about billionaire George Soros that have been boosted by mainstream media outlets and lawmakers in the US. The site looks identical to the real Washington Post website, except for the fact that it uses a small variation of the real URL. This post was shared in eight distinct posts on X, which were shared by over 750 bot accounts multiple times, creating almost 6,000 retweets in total, according to the researchers. The Doppelganger network uses a combination of “content bots,” which post the links, and “promotion bots,” which then boost those original tweets.
Come on don't be so blind. It's well known what the Russians are up to in intelligence circles
In fairness, Russian prop tends to jump on to organic movements and try and use them for their own ends. Scottish independence and EU scepticism were both organic movements that were grown by British groups in the UK, but Russia also sort of stuck their fingers into both to try and prioritise the messages they wanted and to push the divisions they'd profit on within those existing movements and narratives.
It doesn't invalidate the whole movements or the sympathies (no one really argues against Scottish independence using Salmond's work with RT), but people and groups probably do need to be more conscious of entryists (and also just corrupt high profile individuals) who want to take organic movements and steer them for their own ends, because that is a real problem, even if we remove state actors like Russia.
Why would someone ever disagree with me unless they were paid or brainwashed by Russia? Are you on drugs? Do you need a padded room?
Why would someone ever disagree with me unless they were mental and needed a padded room?!
Check your fascism meter mate it's exploding.
Reddit's "you're a Kremlin bot because you don't agree with me" take but in real life
A post on Reddit reporting on the analasys made by a person who is qualified to do it, does not equal to what you are alluding to.
Qualified, Wired journalist? Ha ha
So Russia beat down those students? They are quite sneaky tbf.
Yah it's just Russian disinformation. Nothing to do with being bombarded with dead children form half a year everytime they look at their phone. You guys are fucking insane.
I would send in my phone for repair, if it bombards you with dead children every time you look at it. Seems like there is something severely wrong with it - or yourself, if you subbed to pages that give you that content all the time.
Sounds pretty perverted to me tbh.
You really can't understand that's it's an exaggeration for effect eh? No wonder you believe the shit Israel spews with that kind of reading comprehension.
Edit: wrong thread
Where did you get that I'm a fan of NATO? Cuz that's fucking hilarious bro
Sorry, I mistook you for a reply in a different thread - ignore my previous comment.
THE JEWS ARE LYING TO US, but our friendly neighbourhood terrorist group would never do that, Hamas and Fatah are the most honest organisations on this planet and aren't responsible for any deaths ever!
Again dude, you keep making assumptions, really really simplistic, black and white assumptions that are not just wrong, but really show that you don't use critical thinking at all. So I think I'ma bounce from this conversation. Good luck.
You don't seem to use critical thinking, considering you're not wondering why there are large protests against one supposed genocide, while literally nobody gives a single shit about all the other ones going on.
Could it be, because there isn't such a huge media campaign behind them, potentially stirred up by parties interested in sowing discord? No that can't be the case, right?
I actually laughed out loud.
Oh now you have more reasons to silence them???
It's really amazing how powerful Russia is for such an inconsequential shithole. It's behind everything that stops things going smoothly the way governments want them to.
I'm surprised they needed to invade Ukraine when they could just subvert everyone and everything the way they wanted.
Russia influences both the Pro-Palestine and Pro-Israel crowd. They just want there to be radicalism and disunity since it helps them in their own goals.