HELLFIIRRE!!! HELLFIIRRE!!!
BE MINE OR YOU WILL BURN 🔥
But she will be mine or SHEEEEE WIIIILLLLL BUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRN!!!
i’m romani and this dude used to give me literal nightmares
I was gonna say, she didn't try to rape anyone via blackmail
Frollo was legit trying to commit genocide I think he’s a little easier to hate
More people know a Mother Gothel personally than a Frollo though. That’s why.
Something something Umbridge is more hated than Voldemort.
The guilt trip in Mother Knows Best is wild.
This is why I'm confused when I see moms wearing a 'Mother knows best' shirt with her on it at the parks. Like... am I the only one? Am I missing something?
Omg I haven't seen that shirt but I bet it's a self-selecting bunch who wear them :)
Isn’t Frollo a mother Gothel type too tho?
Both are narcissistic worried about their future, and to preserve that future, stole babies and hid them away in a tower, isolating them, forbidding them from leaving said tower and telling the child that they were the only person they could trust.
And with the overt racism
It’s very different when it’s your primary caregiver doing it though.
…Frollo WAS Quasi’s primary caregiver though.
Let's not forget Ernesto de la Cruz
I was watching Coco for the first time with my wife, and halfway through I told her "this movie is so amazing and it doesn't even need a villain! All it needs is the family being slighty antagonistic towards Miguel!" Like 5 mins later my world was flipped lmao.
I would have loved it if Coco had taken the Ghibli route and made the "villain" characters flawed but not outright evil. If they would have let Hector and Ernesto work out their issues and helped Coco return to the surface in a race against time (or some other barrier that required them to work together), that would have been much more interesting. Yes, I realize this becomes impossible once Ernesto is made responsible for Hector's murder.
Oh yeah f that guy
I came here specifically to hate on him.
More than Frolo?
In all of cinematic history? Not even in all of Disney’s cinematic history lol.
I’m a mommy gothel fan
i was thinking the same thing lol. like more hateable than Amon Goeth?
I find it concerning that nobody has mentioned the Coachman from Pinocchio
I can't even go back and _watch_ Pinocchio. That movie freaked me the heck out as a kid.
Yup. The donkey scene in Pinocchio. The he’ll dream scene in all dogs go to heaven. There certainly was some nightmare fuel out there for us 90s kids
Felidae, Watership Down, Plague Dogs, and Hunchback of Notre Dame had some insane stuff.
Sure, she's a terrible and selfish person, but I wouldn't say most hateable. Her character was very well written and her song was amazing!
She’s hateable in the same way Dolores Umbridge was. Real. Relatable.
Not characatures of something evil, but a real evil human.
I said to someone else in the thread if you know a real life Mother Gothel she’s even more hateable.
The realness of her evil made her scarier to me, yes. Only loving you for what you can provide them and the constant gaslighting.
She’s not even the most hateable Disney villain
That’s a huge generalized overstatement, but very much in line with Reddit.
I disagree.
She's just realistically and relatably evil. And unlike some versions of the character, she doesn't hold Rapunzel against her will in the tower with magic. She does it through manipulation and gaslighting. Honestly for as much as it's my favorite Disney movie of the era, it can be uncomfortable to watch as someone who's actually lived with that kind of thing.
An interesting note for me was, I somehow missed the prologue where the narration reveals Gothel is evil and stole Rapunzel for her magic hair completely. So the whole movie, I was actually gaslit along with Rapunzel, not knowing if Gothel was bad or not. So when she reveals her true colors at the end, it was as surprising to me as it was to the characters.
Either hyperbole or you must not watch many movies.
Not even in the top 50.
you must have mommy issues
Came here to say this. 💯.
Don't say that to Prince John.
Although it is funny to think that Prince John can be basically summed up as the ultimate Yo Mama Joke.
Like basically everyone in Dumbo that wasn't Dumbo, Mrs Jumbo Timothy and the stork. Half a pass to the crows, but their instinct still was to make fun of Dumbo. Everyone else in the movie, pure monsters.
Madame Medusa was a much more vile Disney kidnapper.
Not to mention Mcleach in the sequel. He just killed everything he could get his hands on, except Joanna. He damn near fed a child to some crocodiles, just to cover his tracks.
"Cinematic History" is a bit of a stretch
i definitely hate her and tangled is my favorite movie (rapunzel being my most fav character ever) so even though i'm biased, no shes not. she is cruel, vicious, manipulative and narcissistic, but she wasnt scary. she had no magic powers of her own. she could do absolutely nothing to anyone except to rapunzel and with words, nothing more. she is a vile person with selfish intentions, but sooooooo many others are worse. the evil queen literally sent huntsman to rip out the heart of a 14 year old. cruella killed/skinned puppies. hell id even say that butler from aristocats was worse than gothel bc who the hell does that to helpless animals? i hate that dude so much. gothel may have abused and used rapunzel, but at least she kept her alive and taught her to take care of herself.
Lol what? Gaston is right there
Everyone wants be Gaston.
And it's not very hard to see whyyyYYYYyyYyyy.
No oneeeee
Tromps around wearing boots like Gaston!
Spits like gaston
I'm especially good at expectorating
Gaston is amazing!
Hey it says most hateable not the most loveable
Its tricky
What about Ursula and Frollo?
I know you meant Frollo, but the idea that Frodo is the worst villain in cinematic history has me going… Sauron? is that you?
I fixed the mistake. Thank you.
Sure, she sucks. But can we talk about the fact that she was able to use the flower for years to keep herself young without damaging the flower and the royals just like "would one petal do the trick? Possibly. But let's use the whole ass flower so no one else can ever have the magic again?" Like, they kinda sucked too.
They just didn't know
They didn't know that there were no other magic flowers? I feel like how difficult it was to find a singular one should have been a giveaway. Unless you meant they didn't know something else?
They didn't know the song, it's implied gothel is the only one that knew the song, for all we know there were other songs that did other things but they were just undiscovered
Oh, for sure, I didn't think they would have any reason to know the song, I'm just saying they could have tried taking just one petal and seeing if that worked before ripping the whole flower up
Oooh i forgot they destroyed the flower
Afluenza
Bad take
That's not a picture of Dolores Umbridge....
Cap, and I know she’s not Disney, but Dolores Umbridge deserves all the hate
give Disney a few years, they might surprise you
I'm gonna say Scar is the most hateable villain simply because he did the unforgivable crime of killing Mufasa
But even without considering Scar how could you forget Cruella De Vil
Cruella D’Ville was going to kill those puppies tho 👀
Also mother gothel can get it ngl 🙊
Nah she’s charismatic
I can tell by the comments that no one here grew up with a Mother Gothel and honestly, good for yall. She’s A LOT more hateable when she’s basically a perfect replication of your mother. They nailed the emotional manipulation so much that I legit couldn’t watch this movie for a long time because it triggered me so much.
i ship her w Frollo
OP obviously hasn't seen The Good Dinosaur.
I find most Disney villains have at least something charismatic or entertaining about them.
Seriously? I actually really like her character
I think the comments fail to realize this person isn’t stating: “Most hateable in history.” As a fact, they’re expressing their opinion.
And unfortunately, people like her exist.
Have you met doleres umbridge?
Dolores Umbridge? Pong Krell?
I'm going to have to say Dolores Umbridge tops this one easily
An actual gaslighter. https://youtu.be/Efua__7B7j4?si=q6ql6Dst7pbk_oeL
Joffrey comes to mind
Scar, kills his brother. Tries to murder his brothers son multiple times. Gets the pack so he definitely has sex with simbas mom.
What about lady tremaine? Most Disney villains have good songs or something that I like about them but lady tremaine is just boring and an asshole
In terms of Disney? I'd say she's certainly up there in terms of crimes committed, but she's definitely not the most easy to hate compared to some others like Madame Medusa, Frollo, the Horned King, Ratcliffe, Bellwether, etc.
In all of cinematic history though is a very far reach, I personally feel, and I'd argue Homelander from The Boys is EXTREMELY brutal compared to most villains I've ever seen in media - unless we're getting into some extremely more dark horror/shock-oriented pieces of media..
She’s slay :D
You should totally watch Taken.
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