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Found a cringey Dr. Disrespect defender on Facebook, major red flags on this one
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Can’t remember the comedians name but they have a joke about this. There’s actually a few different “phile’s” that account for the different age groups but there is no way to talk about it without sounding like a pedophile lol
A pedantic pedophile.
Fun alliteration, gross person
I knew a Peter File once.
Gianmarco Soresi?
I think that was him actually.
yeah he has a joke thats like... literally word for word that
100% him, it’s the first thing I’ve ever seen of his
I fucking love him, he's hilarious.
I've heard that same joke. Which is the reason I know the difference and now I sound creepy.
I know the joke, but the reason I know the term is bc I research criminology. Hearing/reading first person stories is absolutely wild. And it's difficult to discuss with anyone irl bc they think I'm crazy. I just want to know what's out there and why.
Iirc, It's becayse they're actual mental illnesses. A child molester isn't necessarily a pedophile and vice-versa.
Gianmarco Soresi. It's a good bit lol
Yeah, the only context where I feel like it's ever conventionally ok mentioning it is when talking about history, and how it was more acceptable for women to marry younger, but not as children. There was a distinction between prepubescence and pubescence. Today, there's no distinction; they're all children. (And that's a good thing. It protects all ages of children/youths.)
I would argue it's not a good thing. We already had a word for preying on children, child predators. Appropriating "pedo" allows for confusion because of the image it evokes in people's minds.
Like you said, historically, women married much younger than 18, so clearly it wasn't unnatural for people to have attraction to teens. Puberty is for developing sexual characteristics that we find attractive and signaling for child rearing, that's basic biology. (No, I'm not arguing for lower age of consent, don't reply instantly ya'll)
But the nuance here between "finds attractive" and "will prey upon" is being lost by the abuse of words like this. It's trying to force this idea that if you so dare as even admit that someone 17 can be attractive, you're a pedo, even tho pretty much every man on this planet would admit behind closed doors he's found teens who have gone through puberty attractive; you don't change THAT much by 18 once you've had your initial puberty growth, a body is a body when it comes to physical attraction.
Admitting that doesn't mean you think it's good to prey on underage people. Because that's an issue of mental, power and life experience dynamic, not physical.
This is why that distinction for the term "pedo" is so important. Because it's unnatural to be PHYSICALLY attracted to pre-pubescent children. Whereas the issue with teens is that as an adult in modern society, it's best for them to not be preyed upon until they are "adults".
It's no surprise why "teen" is one of the hugest porn categories in the world... And porn like "Tiny4K" does huge numbers. So when you throw around "pedo" against someone who went after an older teen, you're basically telling the men of the world they're freaks for a natural attraction that has nothing to do with pre-pubescent children, instead of constraining the claim to the bad thing the person actually did, which was prey on a minor.
Brandon Wardell is where I’ve seen this bit.
What king kind of "phile" are you if you are attracted to other adults?
Edit: It's Teleiophilia. I am proud to say I am a Teleiophile
I don’t think anyone wants to be the king of philes
When you were young, you were the King of Carrotphiles.
It took me way too long to realize I made a typo 🤦♂️
I spend my time using my finger to open up computer files.
I highly recommend you DO NOT go around and tell anyone you are any sort of ___phile :D
Audiophiles are well known to not mean anything perverse.
Lmao I love this style of humor.
There is a standup bit out there. Too lazy (and scared) to google it for you.
Same thing came to mind lol, “the problem is explaining the difference will only make you look more like a pedophile”
Yeah, it's true, but then i like to think if your genuinely not, then there is little someone can do besides call you names, But I guess there is a risk of getting attacked or doxxed
But I think we have to try and use the correct terminology and talk about it.
Part of the problem is not all pedos act on the thoughts or commit crimes and not all child molesters are pedos.
And we have to talk about it and try to understand that if we want to protect children.
people get so angry (fair enough to be honest) They would rather see a pedo harmed than a child saved. Killing or harming or catching the pedo has become more important than preventing and protecting children.
Thats why you can't even have a conversation without being accused of being a pedo. I garuntee someone will call me a pedo for typing all this.
And it's that exact attitude that means we can't have a meaningful conversation to protect children.
And killing or shooting or imprisoning a pedo does nothing to prevent because they're usualy only caught after a child has become a victim.
I want to stop children from becoming a victim in the first place and to do that, you have to talk and discuss and learn about what motivates people who do it or have those thoughts.
Also it's called a hebephile, someome who is attracted to pubescent children who are starting to show secondary sexual traits (breaking voice and increase muscle tone in boys, breast development in women)
I remember reading that most child molesters aren't even sexually attracted to minors, they get off on having power over someone that can't really do much to defend themselves, and children are the best target for that. Truly awful.
Exactly, if you only target pedophiles, you'll miss a huge number of child molester.
Shitty or outrage-addicted people love to accuse others of being pedophiles because “they raped a kid” is such a damning thing that it doesn’t matter if you cured world hunger, if you did that you’re still a monster.
So I think it’s not so much “it’s about harming pedophiles, not saving children” as it is “it’s about demonizing as many people as we can so that we can zealously and self-righteously condemn this person we dislike and anyone who disagrees with us is hurting children.”
They are for no measures to protect children unless those measures have the side-effect of hurting some minority group or controlling what other people do. They don’t give a shit about children.
It’s Gianmarco Sorsei if that helps.
You can Google 'pedophiles', just make sure to block the cookies because you never know with Google these days. You don't want to start getting ads for sexy singles in your area.
lol I do know there is a technical difference but the only people who care about making such a distinction are those who are concerned about being confused with paedophiles
Some for sure. But defining something isn't automatically excusing it. The medical profession hasn't come up with these terms to defend pedophiles, but because the difference actually does matter in that context.
So the more fundamental issue in my opinion is that people say pedophile when they really mean child abuser, as we don't usually speak in that medical or psychological context, and really care whether minors are being sexually abused.
Most people just like torturing an easy target with no consequences. They don't actually give a shit about protecting or helping abused kids
Not really. There's great social pressure to be strongly opinionated yet ignorant on the subject, since anything else is understood to be suspicious. This informs everyone's behavior, including people who do genuinely mean well and wish to prevent sexual abuse of children.
Yep, if you're someone who just likes words to be used properly, it's not a battle worth picking.
I care not just to be technically correct, but because language informs the way we think. In this case, conflating the terms has led to widespread misconceptions that are now a real problem in the prevention of child abuse.
If the motivation to uphold the social taboo was to protect children, it has backfired.
They are like "I'm bad... But not thaaaat bad"
Aka "yeah I killed someone but at least I didn't torture him"
“I like preying on underage girls but hey, I’ve still got standards you know”
“But the added risk of pregnancy heightens the experience for me”
Well in his statement ya know, he did say he can’t be a pedo because everyone knows that he doesn’t like pedos
or people that have been hurt by actual pedophiles and watch all these internet edge lords misuse the term and joke that "if you know the difference its because you're a pedo too"
Pedophilia is a serious thing and people whitewash it all over the place
Both are awful, but let's be clear, one is wayyyy worse
The best way to deal with this is call out child abuse for what it is. Paedophilia or ephebophilia is a psychological condition of sorts. Child abuse is child abuse and it applies to teenagers as much as it does prepubescent children.
One is a state of mind, another is an abhorrent action. You can’t necessarily change someone’s natural sexual attraction but you can prevent child abuse with the right initiatives in place.
Yeah, sometimes I'll point out the difference between the two but make it clear that they're both still bad. I think that's kept me relatively safe.
Usually folks bring up ehebophilia, and just say that it's not the same as pedophilia. Yeah, it's a different thing, but that doesn't make it okay. It's like saying "I'm not a bank robber, I'm an armored truck robber!" and expect not to get arrested. It's still robbery.lol
Anyone would be concerned with being confused with pedophiles if they’re attracted to 17-18 year old girls.
That depends on the state, kinda. In some states the age of consent is 16, not 18, so while I agree it’s creepy if there’s a big age difference it’s not a crime if someone hooks up with someone that young.
There’s always those people who make this argument and it isn’t the flex they think it is.
My spouse is a county prosecutor. The number of times this subtle difference in verbaige is used by the defense to justify the illegal actions of an individual is crazy. But due to the differences in State laws (age of consent, how the law defines the act, etc), it’s often the difference between jail and probation.
But yes, it’s a red flag.
The court of public opinion does not care about technicalities. It’s all the same.
Wouldn't he technically be a pederast?
Like my Uncle Alex! Great guy. He’d get me to come over and record videos doing exercises with him all the time
Predators... Or true crime nerds who thought for a time a career in forensics might be suitable for them :D
Sincerely, someone whos most certainly not a predator but has a lot of weird knowledge 🙈
"im not mad"
as i like to say “hebephile, ephebophile, pedophile, same shit different smell. stop trying to fuck kids”
I know it because I’m an aspiring forensic psychologist.
Let's say "care about" instead of "know".
Although I guess that group should include people working in the law/justice areas as well, I'm sure there are different levels of criminality
Mumkey jones taught me this, wonder how he's doin
Yes officer this one over here
I mean, technically he’s right. The word gets absolutely bastardized. But that’s not a hill I’m willing to die on.
Just stay above the age of consent people. It isn’t complicated
I’m trying but life is hard, man. Just the other week, I was 42. I was so happy, banging every night. But now, as of today, I’m 16! Where did the time go??
Internet keyboard warriors, if you’re in a war online and find yourself at a point where you have to make use of the ‘not pedophile but an ephebophile’ weapon, it’s time to wave the white flag, the war ended years ago.
If you’re in a war online defending the guy credible accused of trying to engage with a minor - and that said guy has already recognized that his career, influence, and sponsorships are totally over - you’ve just lost the plot.
Disrespect isn’t even out here trying to seriously defend himself. The writing was on the wall, the truth came out, and he walked away. He isn’t coming back, regardless of whatever semantics debate people want to have on the Internet.
It's also kinda sad because if you are making this argument online then you are ruining your own reputation or credibility and you are doing it for a person who doesn't give a single shit if you live or die.
I don’t even know this guy but i read his message and “yeah ok I sexted with a minor but I’m pissed at all you assholes trying to act like I raped a kid, stop with all your bullshit” didn’t do him any favors. The tone was all off for someone who got caught. It felt very “yeah I’m wrong but I’m also being wronged.” like… great, people on the internet are being stupid, how about you focus your apology on the sex crime you did.
Well said lmao
I mean - is there any value for trying to keep the weight that words have? Genuinely asking because as an example, the word "racist" in the US, has lost about 95% of it's bite. It no longer means someone who is prejudiced against a group of people because of the color of their skin.
Plus, right wing news is calling just about anyone they don't like a pedophile these days. We live in weird times.
i don't know dude, this doesn't make too much sense to me. do you think that if this disrespect dude wanted to fuck a 5 year old that is the exact same thing than let's say a 16 year old? am I raising red flags if I say fucking a 5 year old is much worse? am I defending pedophiles with this statement somehow?
I was assaulted at both of those ages. Both sucked.
sorry to read that that, i'm not arguing being assaulted doesn't suck. it sucks at any age.
Yes you are.
They're both crimes for one.
And yes, it does seem like you have a strange obsession with shitty debate topics, which makes total sense because you're an r/destiny poster. I know you guys have a very 'interesting' (read: weird and creepy) understanding of the age of consent and what that means, but don't bring that shit to me and definitely don't talk to me about it.
Goodbye.
I mean, to play devils advocate, he's right. You can't compare being attracted to jailbait (AKA underage girl that looks legal) to being attracted to little kids.
Now, before I get drowned in a sea of downvotes, let me just say this:
What I said above doesn't change that Dr. Disrespect is clearly in the wrong. He was talking to an underage girl, fully aware of that fact. He pushed the chat to sexual topics, as well as having discussed meeting up with her. He clearly had a motive to meet and have sexual relations with an underage girl while being much older than her. In no world is this ok, and he deserves any backlash he gets for it.
Spot on. I think it’s very important to make the distinction because I would have a much much bigger problem with somebody if they’re attracted to 6 year olds than if they tried to get with a girl who’s about to turn 18. It’s still wrong especially at his age, but it’s a bit of a stretch to call him a straight up pedo. He’s more of a groomer who just wanted to abuse his power dynamic with a young impressionable girl.
100%. It's honestly pretty wild to me how quick the internet is to jump to pedophile accusations. The girl could be 17 years, 364 days and 23 hours old and the internet would still scream about a guy "fucking a literal child". But then an hour later those same people would trip over themselves running to check if she's made an onlyfans yet.
What he did was bad, sure, but people are acting like he's Ian Watkins. Let's settle down a bit here
hey just a heads up that people are literally using this as a defense for him, claiming that the girl was 17, along with lots of people using the 'its not pedophilia if she was 17 years, 364 days and 23 hours old' hypothetical to detract from the fact that we dont know what her age was, and regardless, he was 35 at the time and a 35 y/o man trying to get with a 17 year old is the BEST case scenario is still extremely bad. I get what you're going for, but its really bad rhetoric to even bring it into the conversation because no one is trying to use the term pedophile literally, everyone clearly uses it to indicate 'under legal age'. bringing semantic definitions into it just looks bad.
no one is trying to use the term pedophile literally, everyone clearly uses it to indicate 'under legal age'.
I don't know about you, but when I hear the word 'pedo', I immediately think 'kiddie fiddler' and assume that the person is into little kids. That's the association the word brings.
a 35 y/o man trying to get with a 17 year old is the BEST case scenario is still extremely bad
This is what people should focus on. He was more than double her age at the time. Even if she were 18, it would still be highly questionable as he'd effectively be doing the same thing; leveraging his fame to entice a young fan into meeting with him for sexual relations.
The fact that she is under 18 is what makes it a crime, while the age difference is what makes it morally questionable and I think he'd still be getting a lot of shit even if she was 18.
The thing is pedophile both literally means, and colloquially implies, going after children, not a 16-17 year old. It’s the same vain as calling a drunk driver a murderer. It’s still a terrible act that should not be defended, but it’s also not the same thing. The big thing is that 18 isn’t unanimously the age of consent, even in the US, as in some areas the age is lower. That doesn’t make a 35 year old yo go chasing a 16-17 ethically okay. The big focus should be that he was using his fame and status to try to get with someone half his age.
Yeah, he's about as bad as The Joker
No It's still a disgusting move to wait until the day she's 18 to hunt her down
LEAVE TEENAGERS ALONE FOR FUCKS SAKE
That is correct. I'm not sure why you're phrasing your comment like I'm defending that behavior.
Do you have a source for where he discussed meeting up with her? I hadn't heard that bit
Reminds me of this comedy bit: R. Kelly is not a p*dophile (technically speaking) | Gianmarco Soresi | Stand Up Comedy
Immediately thought of this. Especially when he's like "just wait it gets better" lol.
Bruh you and another commenter posted about the same thing at the same time
Go play the lottery lol
He’s right but at what cost… lol
i prefer to call him a creep and a groomer, he's a bad person but i don't like diminishing the word paedophile by using it in this way.
I don't even know what has happened. But I DO know that TWITCH must be aware "minors" are watching the streams. Does that also mean they are watching the girls in the inflated paddling pools (with 'linktree' links in their biogs)?
Does that also mean that female Twitch streamers are chatting to Twitch minors on Only Fans? Do streamers know that minors might be paying them and watching them for sexual gratification?
Of course they know. They are buying houses from it.
Who’s comedian that makes the joke about how there is a difference but if you explain the difference it just makes you look like a p3d0?
https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o?si=I1WcMfTd4Z5NMITw
Got you bro
Kids are kids, so stop diddling them
people don't like to admit when they like/admire someone who turns out to be a bad person, because they think it reflects poorly on them and their taste. it's easier to believe that everyone else is attacking them than to admit you made an error in judgment, ESPECIALLY when it comes to heinous acts against vulnerable individuals (child abuse, animal abuse, etc)
Actual pedophiles are way worse, I'm sorry.
OP, if you find a 17 year old attractive should you get help? Or is that actually completely fucking normal as opposed to wanting to fuck 8 year olds.
If you're of the mentality that manipulated a young person into sex is OK, then when it works, what's to stop him at 17. Then could be 16. What about 15.
No it's not fucking normal for a 35 year old guy to use his power and influence to try to manipulate a 17 year old into sex. Wtf is wrong with you.
Lol a dude you watch turns out to be a creep. What do you do? I know! Let's argue semantics because that totally makes mullet man look better.
There's no one in real life I'd defend over this shit. I can't imagine doing it for some creep you don't know
I feel like once you’re arguing about if you match the technical definition of a pedo, you’ve already lost the argument.
I get that, but I also hate that it's just taboo to legit discuss some topics. It feels like we're promoting ignorance and calling it virtue.
Knowing stuff and sharing knowledge shouldn't be bad.
Precisely
He's absolutely correct, but no one who makes that correction is going to get away with it without sounding like a .pdf themselves, so most people just keep their mouths shut. He did not have the sense to.
You should see his Sub right now. The amount of incels having a hard time letting go of their sexual predator video host and the mental gymnastics they’re going through to justify or excuse his actions is disturbing
I feel like this guy is fresh outta that sub and not in line with normal society at all lol
He’s def not out of the sub yet lol
Real talk, wasn’t the girl 17 and a few months away from turning 18? By no means a child.
age was never disclosed, it's a cope his groupies came up with to rush to his defense with.
Ah ok. I’ve not really been following this outside of shit on Reddit so I don’t know the details that well.
i envy you, i wish i knew as little about this all as possible
Still a minor legally, so still illegal and predatory.
The age has never been disclosed.. the fake email said 17 and people ran with it. All he ever said was it was a minor. Either way you’re literally doing what the post is saying lmao what does it matter they were underage why even defend any part of that it just makes you look bad
Would've been legal in a lot of other countries around the world.
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Not just that, the distinction only really matters to pedophiles
Either way, disrespect is a gross pervert
I should have just scrolled and found this comment instead of asking who the comedian was 😂
I mean I get that’s it’s technically not the right term, but can’t we just all agree that if you’re an adult you shouldn’t touch minors?
Even if they are teenagers and "very mature for their age".
World population is roughly 49.5% females. Around 72.5% are above the age of 18. so roughly 2.87 billion legal fish in the sea. Why you have to go for the illegal ones?
Btw, I’m not some rain man type statistics genius, I just looked up the numbers from a 2023 statistic
What did Dr Disrepect do? I’m out of the loop. Thanks in advance.
We found out the reason why he was permabanned off Twitch 4 years ago because a former Twitch employee leaked it and Doc confirmed the allegations were true. He was caught by Twitch staff having an inappropriate conversation with a minor in Twitch DMs
I love a good vocabulary lesson.
However, it seems unfair to hold Scott solely responsible for the degradation in the definition:
Half the country thinks pedophiliac means "a politician whose policies I don't understand so hate."
The only people that differentiate them are pedos
“Well akshually, pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescent kids” ☝️🤓
Edit: spelling
Literally the worst thing to have an “ackshually” moment about
A teenager can look older and be physically attractive, but your moral compass should tell you that they’re still a child and you shouldn’t be fucking a child. Not being a pedophile means you don’t take advantage of children.
Multiple people on Reddit have explained this to me as though that makes it better haha
Here’s the rest of the conversation for context: https://imgur.com/gallery/BdkJe1x
Started out as a funny meme, most people got it but a few people needed help catching up so I provided more details. Then this absolute gooner comes in screeching about the dictionary definition of “paedophile” looking like a totally normal well-adjusted human being. He was even malding so hard he had to laugh react to every single one of my replies like “I’m not mad! I’m not mad! Look, I’m laughing, that’s how totally not mad I am!!”
I legit tried to make it through the whole conversation, but at this point my eyes have rolled a full 360 degrees in my head, trying to comprehend that dude's thought process, and I have no interest in losing anymore brain cells trying to get on his level.
It was wise of you to try and preserve your own sanity. I’m already too far gone with this shit
This just reminded me of Gianmarco Soresi’s R. Kelly bit.
Bruh you and another commenter posted about the same thing at the same time
Go play the lottery lol
You better not ever go to Cell Block One.
Oh cool it's Docs army of 17 year old libertarians
Congrats, you won this battle. Now you sound like a creepy weirdo.
Dude knows the age of consent in every state and country by heart.
People who die on this hill are 🚩🚩🚩🚩
I'd reply, "he's not going to blow you dude, you're obviously not young enough"
If our military fights as hard to defend us as Docs fans have defended him, we will never lose. I can believe how many of them are doing Simone Biles level mental gymnastics.
It's baffling to me how many people is defending a married father in his late 30s sexting a minor (and other people) trying to have sex during a convention.
Like how the fuck
I think The Joker wrote that comment. (Makes sense, since Dr. Disrespect sounds like a Batman villain.)
Knowing the difference really makes you sound like a pedophile.
Ok cool, he’s still a fuckin loser predator though lol. Just because you’re better at the dictionary doesn’t change anything.
Friendly reminder we still don’t know how old this minor was, anyone saying they were 17 is just misguided or lying
“At least my friends care!” Was a fire line frfr
He’s technically a hebephile. Still sick in the head and should be locked up.
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Even pedantically he’s only half right. Yes being attracted to a 17 year old doesn’t make you a pedophile. But also, Dr disrespect didn’t only have an attraction, he acted on it. So that makes him a predator, not a pedophile.
Oh well that makes it so much better /s
lol, “he’s not a pedo! They were a MINOR, there’s a diff”. Yowza
Why don't you take a seat over here
Put this in r/drizzy
This is like people who try to do gotcha debates by only choosing one specific definition for a word and making that the crux of their argument. It's a waste of everyone's time.
We use something called "common parlance" and the word "pedo" is used for all people who try to sexually coerce, or are attracted to, people under the age of 18. You can be pedantic all you want but we aren't in Psychology class; we're in the real world and in this real world that is what pedo means to a very large swath of the population.
The other side to that is there is literally no benefit to anyone knowing that distinction outside a career in psychology. Why even say anything if you aren't a weirdo trying to defend yourself?
Jesus christ i wasnt expecting 30 screenshots
This highlights how deep the brainrot goes
Yeah, im just mindblown by the amount of brainrot, lol
Okay, I have an actual question. I’m not well versed in this drama. Was he just talking to the underaged person or was he talking talking to the underaged person?
talking talking
Oh
Self admitted too. Not accusations
Thing is laws have been enacted and define p@do differently than psychiatry. We can do that and personal opinions aren't the law. Why is that so hard to understand?
Wow, they really out themselves don’t they?
"You're so childish"
"And that turns you on, right?"
Pedophile ❌ - too clinical, can be rules lawyered by "um actually"s, a bit overused, can't be conjugated
Nonce ✔️ - funny word, is appropriate as a catch-all for all kinds of age creepiness and crimes whether technically "prepubescent children" or not, hasn't made it to the states yet, can be contextualised for effect (noncing, nonced, noncery, etc)
Whenever I see people go "Well ACKSHULLY..." or start harping on about age of consent and other technicalities, I will automatically assume their hard drive needs to be looked at by authorities.
Anyone that gets specific on the type of pedophile a person is, is a pedophile. No one looks into the different meanings when they all represent the same thing.
I mean both are bad but there’s a big fucking difference between being attracted to a 17 year old vs a toddler
It is so annoying when people online refuse to acknowledge the differences and pre label you as a pedo if you do
Like if you were to say there’s a difference between a spree killer and a mass killer and a serial killer. But if you acknowledge that well I guess you want to kill people!
17y/o are above the age of consent in most places, even most of America
Just say you like little girls and move on
You think an 18 year old fucking a 17 year old is the same as a 35 year old fucking a 10 year old? That is insanity.
That’s not what you said though is it? You and I both know that’s not what is being talked about. Just admit it.
Fair enough. do you think a 35 year old fucking a 17 year old is the same as a 35 year old fucking a 10 year old? That is still insanity.
Bear in mind the age of consent is 17 or lower is most of the world, including most of the US. Do you think pedophilia is legal in most of the world
Yes I do, because we aren’t about to have an Olympics of suffering. The bottom line is that it is abusive. The power he has to talk to a minor in that way is wrong. There is no ifs, ands, or butts about it. And if there is for you, then maybe you need to do a little evaluation of your mindset. If we wanted to talk about severity. No one would be able to talk about the abuse they suffered because someone out there would have it worse. I’m sorry that’s not the way it works. This 35 year old talking to a minor who is a fan with sexual intention, is fucking wrong.
First of all, we don’t know how old the minor was, we don’t know the contents of the messages, and we don’t know what “inappropriate” means. A racist joke is inappropriate, but wouldn’t make him a pedophile. So my only stance is that there’s zero reason to brand him a pedophile.
What we do know is, it was bad enough for Twitch to kick him off, but it was not bad enough for a prosecutor to bring charges. And the bar for a criminal charge is pretty damn low for messaging minors on the internet.
The power dynamic between adults and minors IS problematic. What Dr. did IS problematic, and I’m sure he got what he deserved. But there is just no reason to brand him a pedophile. Pedophiles deserve to be taken behind the jail and shot, there’s no reason to think the Dr. deserves that.
So a minor would be 17 and under. Could be any age. And he initially said that they were sexually inappropriate messages. So keep speaking. All you’re doing is confirming that you’ll do anything to let it be okay to talk to minor. Only one reason for that. Honestly you should speak up about your view points way more often. Warn women and girls to stay away from you.
You’re using a false dichotomy. My options are not limited to either what he did is perfectly fine or he is a pedophile. What he did is not ok and I hope the consequences he faced were proportional. But I don’t know the details so I don’t know if they are. I’m also not saying he’s not a pedophile, just that the information available doesn’t prove he is or isn’t.
I agree with the law, I agree with the dictionary, I agree with Twitch’s actions, and I agree that he deserves public backlash. These opinions aren’t controversial.
While there is a difference the adult is still the adult and shouldn't be sexual towards children. I personally feel like pedophile the word has 2 ways of saying it one is adults liking minors and the other adults that like prepubesent children. While sure technically sexting a 17y isn't pedophila. I'm still going to call that adult a pedo.
One is illegal everywhere, the other is legal basically everywhere. I'd say it's pretty fucking important.
A 19 y/o having sex with a 17y/o is not a pedo. A 19y/o having sex with an 8y/o is.
Are these scenarios the same to you? They're not to me
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Technically he’s an ephebophile. But the only people who know the difference between a pedophile and ephebophile are predators.
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