Palæstinacamp startet på Københavns Universitet Amager
hørte det samme interview, det var omega tåkrummende.
men til hendes forsvar er det sådan mange mennesker tilgår politiske emner, mette frederiksen / daddy vanopslagh siger det, derfor er det rigtigt. men israel/palæstina konflikten har sådan en sær polariserende effekt på eller relativt upolitiske mennesker
Får det også lidt tåkrummende at høre drengerøv Vanopslagh omtalt som Daddy.
Helt sikkert, men det har intet med emnet at gøre.
Korrekt, men ikke bragt på banen af mig.
hørte det samme interview, det var omega tåkrummende.
men til hendes forsvar er det sådan mange mennesker tilgår politiske emner, mette frederiksen / daddy vanopslagh siger det, derfor er det rigtigt. men israel/palæstina konflikten har sådan en sær polariserende effekt på eller relativt upolitiske mennesker
Men der er så meget der er tåkrummende. Bare det jeg vil gøre opmærksom på da det åbenbart er det emnet er endt med at handle om. Om et tåkrummende interview.
Det handler om social kapital.
Hvor kan man finde det?
Det var “Tiden” d. 8. maj ☺️
Ja, 7. oktober har de fleste glemt.
Så pinligt 😅
Så der sgu snart valg i USA igen hva' drenge?
Plus E.U.
Tvivler på at der sker så meget mere. Modsat Campen i City, er det åbent område, hvor det ikke er vildt trygt at overnatte. Konflikten har iøvrigt været helt usynlig på KUA det sidste halve år.
Det vil jeg nu ikke sige at den har. Før teltlejr var der både sådan en sit-in demonstration og der var sat sådan nogen infostandere op. Givetvis var det ikke meget..
Ser lidt sølle ud. Men så længe de ikke chikanerer nogen, så skal fred være med deres protest.
Hos is KU israel related?
KU has millions of kroner invested in companies that are involved with illegal settlements on the West Bank. One of the major demands of the students is to remove those investments.
Thank you for the response, I can’t meaningfully support the cause, but with the information you provided - more power to these young people!
KU has investments that affirm the economic life in illegal Israeli settlements, meaning it funds companies that operate in these illegal settlements, ensuring settlers have economic security. These settlements by definition entails stealing land. It’s pretty simple, but many aren’t aware of this.
Can you be more specific about what investments KU has?
They can’t because it’s utter nonsense
Yeah, that is really my only question. If they are invested in a place like Israel or russia they can absolutely go fuck themselves
I think it's AirBnB, they operate (or let people) operate in the westbank.
Sure.
Whether the investment have a meaningful impact on the continuation of settlements and their existence or not is wholly irrelevant, as the question is also about intent — that KU has no issue with ensuring economic life and security of illegal settlements whose goal is to steal land, irrespective of how large their own investment is, it nevertheless entails the acceptance of such investments. To make a comparison, their intent is dolus directus.
Moreover, no one denies investments are happening and is openly acknowledged by KU — an uncontested fact.
Although some of the specific companies are Booking_com, AirBnb and eDreams ODIGEO. These are all on the UN black list. A quick google search shows this — none of this is controversial.
Hahaha...ok so you're saying because booking.com, airbnb etc have listings of properties in settlements in the West Bank, universities that you claim have anything to do with these companies (do they and how?? Through basic mixed stock funds they own which are probably 0.01% companies like this?) are somehow investing in Israel? And they also have tons of listings by Palestinians in the West Bank, thus being a source of income for them too - go check it yourself. Maybe spend your time on doing something that actually matters on this planet.
It’s quite embarrassing to read this comment by you, and exposes your lack of knowledge on how to decode a person’s/institution’s intent in law.
One the most important aspects of any action is intent, which is also shown in a criminal act’s two components: actus reus and mens rea, thereby invoking a mental element.
Obviously, the subjective element of a crime and an action in general is vital, as it indicates what one’s reasoning is on a particular subject.
If you actually knew anything about this, you’d also know an action’s consequences doesn’t necessarily even have to occur to hold a person/institution accountable — this is why inchoate crimes exist. Moreover, in every definition and form of dolus, it always has the implication or “foresaw”, i.e. the subjective element is vital, because it shows you accept whatever consequences might/likely follow one’s actions, thereby showcasing intent to accept whatever consequence followed.
If you don’t agree, you just erase a whole category of law, and you’re an idiotic with no grasp on law or Palestine.
This is the whole point: that KU accepts the idea of settlements, disregarding their unethical nature, which results in affirming and securing economic of the settlements. This is why I’ve used the key wordaffirm multiple times now: to show what their intentions are, which has an extreme amount of weight when understanding the rationale of a person/institution.
You logic entails having no issue with KU hypothetically saying: “we wouldn’t have an issue with Nazi settlements in Poland, but it’s not too lucrative, so only a small portion of our money will be invested there” — remember you set the standard of consequences and erased the whole subjective element. Everybody’s intuition won’t let that sit right with them.
I don’t, man, I feel it’s rather important Danish universities don’t affirm the economic life of some the most heinous concepts in the world — but you do you.
KU does not invest themselves. They have an investment firm do it for them. One of the things they have invested in Terma. I Danish company that makes parts for the radar in the F35 JSF. And Isreal is part of that program, thus the students infer - wrongly - that Copenhagen University is funding genocide!
That IS nonsense since you cannot invest in Terma. That company is 100% owned by a foundation without any other investors. Did you just invent those “facts” because it worked with your narrative?
Which one? Do you have names? Link to the source?
You support Israel by buying vegetables grown in Denmark or other European countries! It's just one link away from someone who has a link to Israel!
Stop funding genocide Pristine_accident451! Have some compassion you zionist.
Lad os campe i vores telte fremstillet i sweatshops et sted i asien og slå et slag for Human Rights.
Whataboutism
Ok Zoomer
I wish. Men mener du alvorlig talt at man kun må protestere, hvis man ikke på nogen måde kan beklikkes? Dit argument kan jo bruges til at lukke enhver kritik af uretfærdighed, medmindre afsenderen lever i komplet askese.
Lad den, der er ren, kaste den første sten.
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Du kritiserer kapitalisme, men du køber ting i supermarkedet🤔
Jeg kritiserer ikke kapitalisme? Jeg elsker kapitalisme.
He's referencing this comic.
I will say that the protestors silence on Yemen, Armenia, Tibet, Kurds (etc. etc) is deafening.At least those 3 of those ethnicities don't actively support terrorism anyways.
Am I doing this right?
Someone help me here. How is KU financing genocide?
Also, camp is so silly it just makes me laugh. If they want to show us that they mean it, do it in the winter. Otherwise, it just looks like an excuse to start Roskilde Festival early lmao.
Danish Universities er required by law to keep some fraction of their funding (I believe it's 10%) in capital. This is some hundreds of millions of kroner, which are invested.
The movement is pressuring KU to disinvest from companies that are part of the illegal occupation of the West Bank.
Does KU hold individual stocks in the blacklisted companies, or are they indexed?
Its new to me that Airbnb are on a UN blacklist.. I've used them quite a lot myself 😬
A camp, seems to be a just one garbage bag tent.
They just copy America like always, they have no independent thoughts just BLM movement
Looks like they got their inspiration from watching VICE episodes on drug tent areas in American suburbs then lol
The University has investments worth one million kroner in companies that, according to the UN, have business ties to Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territories. the investments include booking dot com, airbnb and eDreams
It's a microscopic fraction of their business ties that relate to the settlements. And the University has an invest of only 330.000 DKK (average) in each company. It's grotesque that this can draw so much attention.
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I my opinion they should pay for their own education. No money no education. Why should I use my tax money for these young people destroying the facilities and other interested people's education.
KU has investments in occupied areas
Nice source bro
This is no secret and has been in the media for ages. https://www.berlingske.dk/nyheder/koebenhavns-universitet-laegger-investeringer-paa-vestbredden-frem-men
What investments?
me too
Then how do you protest if it’s not winter? Like how does that argument make any sense, do you honestly believe people should suffer to protest? And why?
The danish winters are like 5+ degrees celsius on average (only around 4 weeks of sub-zero temperature, sometimes only a week), and mostly rain, with a good sleeping bag you can safely manage sleeping out most of the winter lmao
Education is evil, police is evil, the established state is evil, at the moment. Just young people who try to be different. Like always.
I see you’ve received few productive responses on this, which are at best hinged on ignorance, but more likely a malicious attempt to obfuscate the unambiguously fair goal of divestment, so bystanders people won’t support their cause.
What’s the MO of the demonstrations? It is to halt any investments into any companies that are active in Israeli settlements.
Any investment into economic life in settlements affirm their existence, making them legitimized by integrating into a globalized economy.
There are a multitude of issues with these investments, namely one being the intersubjective consensus among relevant legal bodies (including the Danish foreign ministry) of the illegal nature of these settlements.
As such, affirming the existence of settlements that steal the land of the Palestinian people’s which results in Israeli settlers inhabiting the stolen land is considered to be extremely unethical by the demonstrators, hence the desire for divestment of these explicitly unethical investments.
Hope this helps a bit.
Please tell me what pro isreal companies are being subsidized to a meaningful extend by the University of Copenhagen
Also do tell me how you actively using reddit - a platform that openly supports isreal settlements - are not contributing to the investments that intergrates isreal into the world economy.
Whether the investment have a meaningful impact on the continuation of settlements and their existence or not is wholly irrelevant, as the question is also about intent — that KU has no issue with ensuring economic life and security of illegal settlements whose goal is to steal land, irrespective of how large their own investment is, it nevertheless entails the acceptance of the political bagage settlements have. To make a comparison, their intent is dolus directus.
Where and when has Reddit said it supports settlements? Settlements are a very specific thing.
Moreover, no one denies investments are happening and is openly acknowledged by KU — an uncontested fact? So I’m not sure what your contention is. Although some of the specific companies are Booking_com, AirBnb and eDreams ODIGEO.
I guess they wanna raise awareness. This is much smarter than what climate freaks are doing in Germany and UK, glueing themselves to concrete, blocking highway, and throwing soup on art.
This dude is just making a tent and y’all still freaking out. The right to protest is important.
we arent freaking out, we are calling it silly because it doesnt make sense. Copenhagen University isnt financing Israel or their military lol.
I suggest you read this comment I’ve made, as you clearly have no knowledge on the motivations of the demonstrators nor of the facts that lead them to demonstrate:
I see you’ve received few productive responses on this, which are at best hinged on ignorance, but more likely a malicious attempt to obfuscate the unambiguously fair goal of divestment, so bystanders people won’t support their cause.
What’s the MO of the demonstrations? It is to halt any investments into any companies that are active in Israeli settlements.
Any investment into economic life in settlements affirm their existence, making them legitimized by integrating into a globalized economy.
There are a multitude of issues with these investments, namely one being the intersubjective consensus among relevant legal bodies (including the Danish foreign ministry) of the illegal nature of these settlements.
As such, affirming the existence of settlements that steal the land of the Palestinian people’s which results in Israeli settlers inhabiting the stolen land is considered to be extremely unethical by the demonstrators, hence the desire for divestment of these explicitly unethical investments.
Hope this helps a bit.
The right to protest IS important! So is the right to call the protests ridiculoues.
You mean the right of “ free speech “ Im using my free speech as well so …
Exactly!
I love how you get downvoted for a bit of common sense.
People who whine over our constitutional right to protest, protests happening btw without costing the public a cent, should go touch grass.
If it was a book burning, they'd would probably feel completely different and would go into a frenzy supporting the little fat man spewing hate while costing tax payers millions.
I also love getting downvoted on issues like this. Shows the hypocrisy of some people. They are just using the argument of “KU not being related to genocide “ just as an excuse to trash “any” protest. Danes are spoiled. Anything a little bit abnormal makes them freak out.
Most danes don't agree with the edgelords, the amount of time they use on being angry about other people using their democratic rights, is not at all proportional with the wider public.
But yeah i agree.
What do you expect from a nation heavily involved in colonialism? It's much easier to just pretend it was all fine and in the past, than face the fact that it was not in fact fine and many of modern governments support it happening again
Nobody said the protester can't protest. We're saying he's an idiot because KU isn't investing in Israel.
Thats the most lame part, pretending to know better than the people protesting while doing zero research yourself.
You can use Google its not that hard.
Nej tak
They just set it up and leave this isnt an encampment it's littering
USA USA USA
Det er et spændende modefænomen.
Bringbacklockdown
Internettet har gjort folk sindssyge.
Alle har en stemme idag, vi skal blive bedre til at sorterer hvem vi lytter til og tage det vi siger mere seriøst, så skal det nok gå altsammen. Et skridt af gangen, vi skal nok klare den allesammen makker.
Er det sindsygt at ytre sin mening, og gælder det alle meninger, eller kun dem du er uenig i?
Nej, men det er sindssygt at syntes du helt automatisk har ret, og at alle andre så bare skal rette ind efter det
Og det syntes folk ikke før internettet? Jeg synes det er et sundhedstegn at vi lever i et samfund, hvor folk kan lave en lille demo, hvis de brænder for noget.
Det gjorde de sikkert, men internettet har gjort det nemmere at råbe højt. Er det så godt eller skidt? Sikkert begge dele
Alle meninger er ikke lige meget værd. Hvis de eksempelvis ikke har udgangspunkt i fakta eller afviger meget fra samfundets værdier, som når demonstranter gerne vil løse konflikten ved at udslette Israel, så skal de holdninger ikke tillægges værdi og legitimitet.
Alle folk har ret til at ytre deres meninger, og andre folk har ret til at mene, at de har nogle sindssyge standpunkter.
Virtue Signaling ❤️
Eller også mener de det oprigtigt og tør stå mere ved deres holdninger i offentligt rum end du nogensinde har gjort?
Haha, du ved ikke en skid om hvordan / hvor meget jeg ytre mine holdninger i det offentlige rum.
Hvis de var så utilfredse med KU, hvorfor fanden studere de der stadig? De flager den holdning fordi der er "billige sociale point" i at støtte sagen på nemmeste måde, uden at det har konsekvenser for hvordan de lever deres liv.
Man siger "red klimaet", men man køber plastik lort fra Kina.
Jeg ved ikke hvem “man” er, men lige så hurtig du er til at blive forarget over min antagelse, antager du om demonstranterne
Måske fordi de elsker KUA at de vil have det til at blive den bedste version af sig selv det kan være
At jeg er utilfreds med ting i Danmark gør ikke at jeg vil flytte, nej jeg vil kritiserer og forbedre
‘Åh jeg provokerer bare rigtig meget her, fordi jeg elsker dig så meget. Kom, lad os kalde til intifada fordi jeg holder så meget af dig.’ Mm, helt sikkert.
Du kan vel næppe kritisere Marc her for ikke at vide hvordan du ytrer dig i det offentlige rum, og i samme træk snakke om hvordan personerne i opslaget “bare scorer sociale point”. Til din anden point er den her slags protest vel netop langt fra “den nemmeste måde”. “Hvis i er utilfredse hvorfor studerer i der så” er bare latterligt. Er sikker på at du på et tidspunkt i dit liv også har brokket dig over din arbejdsplads, dit studie eller lignende. Hvis ingen prøver at faktisk lave ændringer, men bare skrider hver gang man har det mindste problem med hvad man laver - så bliver intet nogensinde forbedret.
Hende i radioen forleden var helt blank i fht T hun læste på uni. De skulle jo også på ferie og til examen. Så det der holder sgu nok ikke så længe.teltet skal videre til Roskilde må i forstå....
All these youngsters… they buy a Gaza scarf online, and hit the streets, yelling about stuff they most likely cannot comprehend. It’s cute.
Useful idiots it’s called. God I wish they knew how much Gazans hates them
Have you ever talked with someone from palestine? They dont hate us. What is that racist assumption lol!
They absolutely hate our way of living, freedom of sexual orientation, and religion.
So you thinks Israelis like you, and agree with your way of living, freedom and sexual orientation?🤣🤣 that is so funny
Yea
They cant comprehend it, but i suppose you can?
I’ve never said I could. Honestly, I think most people don’t comprehend what’s going on - they are just jumping on whatever is popular, and right now, amongst young students, it’s clearly to buy a scarf and yell “free free Palestine”
Or maybe they actually care about stopping or atleast not funding a genocide
If they actually want to make a difference for Gaza, they should do volunteer work, or just work, to gather money to donate (and hope, that Hamas won’t steal the donations)
Why is that the only option? Because u said so? Also how would that work when Israel doesnt allow trucks to come in to Gaza? And the few trucks that are allowed are being shot at killing 200+ volunteer workers from red cross etc.
That is the option that would impact the Palestinians. Unlike wearing a scarf and having a felt camp in a university garden in Copenhagen.
Few trucks? I realize it’s not enough, but more than 300 trucks enter Gaza on a daily basis.
The protest litteraly have created world wide pressure including the UN now condemning Israel for its warcrimes.
The protesters have created world wide attention making multiple people boycot products directly supporting the genocide.
Protest like these have worked multiple times throughout history, and is showing to be effective once again
It's called a keffiyeh or shemagh, and I'd think that academics are fairly well-equipped to understand what's going on, compared to most people.
Hilarious elitism. These tankies got their heads so far up their own ass, they can't see the sun.
It's pretty much horseshoe theory in action, seeing far leftists unite with the far right islamists to cheer on terrorism.
It's not elitism to point out that people who study politics, history, etc, for a living, are likely to have greater than average knowledge on the aforementioned subjects.
That's like saying it'd be elitist for me to assume, that an electrician would be better at installing wires, without getting electrocuted, than most people.
These people are not tankies. Maybe there's a member of RS/RKP or two amongst them, but the vast majority are not.
You will see that people who are actually experts on the subject, aren't sitting there alongside them. It's just young and naive students who have no expertise on geopolitics or dealing with Arab imperialism or Islam extremism.
If they weren't dumb and naive, they wouldn't be calling for an "intifada" which historically has cost the lives of mostly civilians through terrorist attacks, or at least they wouldn't associate with people who have such extremely disgusting opinions.
keffiyeh or shemagh
But do you know that the black-white keffiyeh the liberal-jihadist alliance likes to wave around was created by a British army officer for the British Palestinian colonial troops? He created them to distinguish them from the existing British troops in Jordan that wore black and red.
it was popularized by the famous Cairo-born politician Yasser Arafat.
They're not academics.
They're kids that just left high-school.
So like, I hate to be that guy, but, source?
I personally know a couple of people in the big camp around my age (25). They all already have at least degrees. One's doing his ph.d. - are they not academics? What is an academic to you?
so... academics?
I bet none of them could find Israel on a map either.
Ligner lidt Roskilde festival
Ok Zoomer
Samfundstabere.
Good practice for when they finish their useless studies and become unemployed and homeless in a few years.
Sjovt, det ligner også Gaza meget godt
Det er sympatiliverollespil.
Gå nu hjem og ryd op på jeres værelser…
- It’s not a genocide
- What Hamas done on October 7th was genocidal.
The UN reduced their deathtoll count by 50%, not a peep about this from these larpers
Ryd lortet og send dem til Palæstina hvis de brænder så meget for sagen.
Kør en bulldozer igennmem lortet
Someone please reassure me that not all of Gen Z is this stupid.
Er ved at være lidt træt af pøllestina
Oh god.
Gud, hvor dumt! Tænk at støtte et folk der frivilligt har valgt Hamas!?
Jeg synes ikke det er så simpelt at stille op. Der er børn, der bliver dræbt, og de har ikke stemt på nogen som helst, og valget var desuden i 2006 hvor man så kan diskutere hvor retfærdigt det var. De civile betaler den største pris, man bør anerkender at nogle kæmper for deres sag.
Så kan man også ligge det til at Hamas fremstillede sig som et ikke ekstremt og demokratisk parti.
- at efter Hamas's angreb og Israel forberedte sig på krig, så demonstrerede mange i Gaza imod Hamas under slagordet "Vi vil ikke dø". At Hamas ignorerede dette og omtaler dem som martyrer når de dør, så behøver Israel ikke demonstrere en ligeså ligegyldighed over deres liv.
Hvad ville du have støttet ellers ? Hamas har lovet at frigøre Palæstina fra Israels besættelse . Israel har i årtier undertrykt denne befolkning . De bestemmer aaaalt i Palæstina , hvor meget el, vand, internet , export/ import osv af aktivitet der må foregå . Man kan sammenligne Palæstina med et kæmpe fængsel under Israels magt .
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looks inviting.
Aah ja. Så kan KU lære det. 😎 Det må gøre så ondt på Københavns uni xD som at få havet til at stige ved at kaste sten der i. 😅
Stop den om sig gribende amerikanisering af vores land. Det startede med Vietnam protesterne, selvom DK ingen andel havde i det.
Det er ikke alt, fra den anden side af Atlanten, der er værd at tage til sig. Hvad bliver det næste, skoleskyderier?
det er også undersøgt nøje...... fanatikere med inspiration fra sociale medier
Det er sgu et lidt sølle setup. Man kunne i det mindste investere i tre farver maling.
Det kan de ikke og det er fordi de faktisk er ligeglade. De deltager bare i en trend. Det er performativ aktivisme.
Jeg ved ikke om du bare kan konkludere alles bevæggrunde - uden lige at spørge dem - men du har ret i det sidste. Det meste aktivisme er dog performativt og symbolsk - det er ofte meningen, som her.
Kan nogen fortælle, hvordan KU støtter folkemordet i Palæstina ?
Ku har utroligt mange pro palestinænser der desværre ofte hat blokeret israel fra at løse porblerrmen er og er derved med ansvarlige når hamas genocider israelier som vi så i oktober
KU har millioner i investeringer i firmaer der er forbundne til bosættelser på Vestbredden.
Det drejer sig om, at de igennem en kapitalforvalter har aktier for ca. 1 million kroner i Airbnb, booking.com og eDreams. Så det er lidt en overreaktion IMO.
Det er virkligt akavet, hvis det er bare er det. Er det så fordi du kan leje et hotelværelse på Vestbredden med booking?
Det er umiddelbart det der er meldt ud. Studenterorganisationen havde meldt et væsentligt højere beløb ud til at starte med, men det vidst ikke mere end 1 mio. kroner i de tre selskaber.
Det er vitterligt fordi, du igennem de platforme kan leje et værelse på Vestbredden.
Ja, det er absurd, at folk som skal på besøg på Vestbredden ikke må booke et værelse at bo i under opholdet.
Det er angiveligt firmaer som Airbnb og booking . Com, jvf tidligere kommentarer på den her post.
Der er ikke noget folkemord i "Palæstina". Indtil retten har talt, er man uskyldig i et retssamfund. KU støtter intet, men har en mikroskopisk andel på 333.000 DKK i tre selskaber, som hver især har en mikroskopisk andel af deres globale aktiviteter i området. Det er grotesk at himle op over ... ingenting.
Frygteligt- ud med de vandalisme palæstinensere- de laver lort overalt
De er i top i kriminalststistikkerne overalt, hvor de er.
Jaja. Free Palestine. Men Ukraine blev invaderet først. Så de skal lige befries først.
Så når man siger free palestine, er det så kun Israel eller også Iran (Hamas der fordrev politiske modstandere med våben i 2007) man vil have ud ?
I deres venstreorienterede tåge af ignorance, er det naturligvis kun Israel. Hamas er nærmest blevet et tabu for dem. Desuden er det nemt bare at råbe “From the River to the Sea” - det lyder godt, så fuck hvad det egentlig betyder (Israels totale ophør).
Hamas burde få en stat i Iran. Så er de omgivet af venner. Alle andre omkring Gaza hader dem. Også Egypterne.
Hamas er helte for dem. Straight up, jeg har selv hørt det fra hestens mund.
Nu er fokus jo flyttet. Hvem faen gider snakke om Ukraine længere?
Hvem betalte Hamas for dén aktion?
Det ved vi jo godt. Det var noget Putler aftalte med diktatoren af Iran som er øverste hersker over Hamas.
Iran og russerne står bag.
Uden tvivl den nemmeste måde at støve noget ubarberet feministfisse op til fredagsbar.
Kolbøtter 🫣
De nyder da bare det gode vejr. Da jeg selv gik i gymnasie var det ik noget bedre end når vi strejkede. Så var det en tur i netto og købe en kasse Ren Pilsner og så ellers i mindeparken for at “protestere”.
Ja de er da heldig med vejret, min de også havde gjort det hvis vi skrev oktober😂😂
De er helt blanke dem der ligger i de telte...
Mod dumhed kæmper selv guderne forgæves.
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Det er tåkrummende det der, alene fordi det er så ringe en indsats.
Hvem laver en roskilde og overpisser lortet?
😆 tabere!
Free PA betyder folkemord mod jøderne og udrydelse af Israel. Så 'slimerne må godt advokere for - og udføre folkemord men ikke Israel, som desuden blev frikendt for anklagen ved øverste instans, ICC ? Giver ligeså god mening som alt andet fra den front !
What. Fri palæstina betyder at palæstinenserne har ret til egen stat og være fri fra Israel’s forfølgelse af dem. Problem er er at så mange folk tror at palæstina og Hamas er det samme. Det er det bestemt ikke.
Bare kig på vestbredden hvor Hamas ikke eksisterer. Der flutter israeilerne stadig ind og overtager folks boliger.
Basically, når den gennemsnitlige person siger “fri palæstina” mener de sgu bare at palæstinenserne, ligsom jøderne, har ret til at eksisterer.
Enten lyver du eller så er du extremt naiv ! PA ønsker bestemt ikke nogen 2 statsløsning med Israel. De ønsker kun at udrydde Israel og alle jøder. Det er derfor de altid har afvist alle forsøg på våbenhvile og 2 statsløsninger lige siden 1937. Araberne vil have det hele uden Israel og jøderne skal udryddes. Det ønsker alle i gaza og på vestbredden. PLO flag er støtte til hamas og hamas er PA og PA er hamas. og islamisk jihad og hezbollah og isis osv. osv. De har alle samme dagsorden. Ligesom dig !
Det var nu ICJ og ikke ICC. ICC retsforfølger enkelt personer for brud på menneskerettigheder og ikke stater. Samtidig har ICC mulighed for at indespærre disse enkeltpersoner hvis de findes skyldige. ICJ kan kun give principielle domme og det er så op til medlemsstater om de vil bruge det til væbnet indgreb eller sanktioner eller ikke en skid.
Ingen må udføre folkemord!
Det er en kamp om hvem der kan mest ond. Desværre sidder der en masse uskyldige mennesker midt i det hele, som dagligt bliver sprunget i luften og skudt på.
Det er fucked Up at det kan være kontroversielt at sige at man ikke vil støtte op omkring at tusinder af civile mennesker skal dræbes, uanset hvor de er født.
Jeg vil ikke pynte på det, det er skræmmende. Se på Amerika.
Fy for satan! All hail the jews
Hørte en pige blive interviewet om det i DR's Genstart. Kæft hvor er det pinligt at man er villig til at protestere og stille op til interview "fordi hun har tillid til sine venner har undersøgt det nøje"
Håber virkelig hun er en ener blandt de studerende.