It is interesting when people within advisory role in the Ministry is all but admitting to collapse now.
Uninhabitable earth pattern is coming, says analyst as Southeast Asia scorches | ABS-CBN News
AdaptationThis guy you see above works for the Thai Ministry. He is willing to do an open interview on the current heatwave hitting South East Asia. He is also kind of also open about the idea that what is coming up next for South East Asia is not going to be pleasant and may be uninhabitable.
I also heard rumors sea grass have died in the Gulf of Siam all the way to Kelantan in Malaysia. I did not know how true it was. However given he is saying it than it has to be true.
This is not good.
This is collapse related because well .. the heatwave if it destabilises South East Asia and South Asia anymore will have monumental impact upon the rest of Asia and Australasia. It will also affect food supply as a lot of rice comes from us. It will also affect the sea trade route as if the areas around the Straits of Malacca becomes too hot or uninhabitable world trade will be disrupted.
More importantly, a lot of fresh water fish cultivation comes from our region. Have that gone and a lot of global cheap protein disappears.
I am not even sure how the prawn industry is going to survive given Gulf of Thailand is so hot now.
Imagine if the entirety of Myanmar decide to leave their country. It would make the ongoing Rohingya refugee crisis look like a walk in the park.
Where do you think they would go? NE into China is practically impossible. NW into Bangla Desh and India is awkward because everyone there will be trying to escape as well. And Bangla Desh is doomed by sea level rise among other things. South into Thailand, East into Laos, same problems. The other country is likely to be worse than their own.
Boat People 2.0
I think they were called The seapeople...
I was thinking of the Vietnamese refugees who made it to other countries in old boats, but yes the bronze age collapse is more accurate. Basically a constant horde of people in boats that are forced to raid or overwhelm other coastal countries to survive, bringing them down too.
This time, if it comes to that, our governments will be able to destroy their boats before they land.
It’s going to be the worst thing humanity has ever done
Yep. I’ve been told it’s important to make a mental list of things that you think are totally fucked and inhumane, just so that when we feel like it’s necessary for self preservation we have a reference for how bad it’s gotten. Never normalize this shit.
Foucalts boomerang has been screaming in my head with Israel using AI Drones. It’ll be on the US border wall in a few years.
If you mean the Vietmanese who fled Vietnam by boat over a 20 year period I think around 200,000 to 400,000 of them died.
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Where to though? Keep going south till you hit Tasmania, and then the Antarctic?
Africa or South America I guess, along with the entire population of India.
I've no doubt there would be a steady stream of small boats to Africa. But the nearest points are war-famine zones. And you might move a few tens or even hundreds of thousands, but not tens of millions. S America is a long way from SE Asia.
The middle classes and anyone that can afford to fly might find a way out of S and SE Asia. But for everyone else it's walk, bus, Toyota Hilux. Over terrain that is seriously difficult.
The south will be more stable than the north.
Why do you say that?
Where to though?
Most people will migrate 6 feet under.
The prequel to Waterworld!
Ready the torpedoes
Don’t give us nightmare
Best just to not be surprised when the nightmare becomes reality. Enjoy today as we know it, no telling when tomorrow is going to look vastly different.
Been trying to warn dumbass conservatives of this for years, they hate a tiny trickle of refugees but actively prevent solving problems which will cause astronomical magnitudes more refugees. Including potentially themselves, refugees in a world where they've encouraged people to dehumanize and mistreat refugees.
This is a predicament, not a problem. There is no solution, the best we can do is adapt to the new conditions imposed on us.
A wise man once told me “Adapt, migrate, or die. . .”
Bangladesh is the bigger issue. Much bigger population and much more vulnerable to extreme weather.
Thankfully, it's also much more developed than Myanmar, with more experience dealing with extreme weather.
Also very politically corrupt.
An aspect people don't talk that much about here is the demographic domino of doom, people will migrate from the equator to the north and in some case south before it gets really bad for us. There will be war or societal collapse. The end is going to be super ugly and will probably implies a lot of conflict and self-destructions.
I don't think people will stay in SEA if that goes that bad they will try to join the continents.
Absolutely. If people think we have migration issues now, just wait! Billions will have to either move or die.
The US will simply murder or enslave all of the migrants. They've been priming the population to accept it for years.
The obvious route is to Singapore, Australia, China, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.
Australia is about the only one that accepts migrants though, so I guess thats where many will try for.
(Japan has something like 2% of the population being foreign-born, but China and Korea are fairly xenophobic and not likely to welcome refugees from Southeast Asia.)
But we have to be careful to not endanger economic growth!
Thank you for thinking of the shareholders.
If the rich really don’t have a massive rocket or orbital living situation secretly built they are truly stupider than I could have ever imagined.
Some of them are building massive bunkers. I’m pretty sure they know what’s up… We are all running out of time. It’s probably a lot cheaper and easier and sustainable to build a massive underground bunker than it is to have an orbital living situation. Still doesnt help us in any way tho
that technology simply doesn't exist. imagine spending the rest of your life on the iss. and- micro/no gravity is very bad for the body, so your life would be shortened anyway.
It would be shortened even more since the ISS needs regular re-upping of supplies. Without that the handful of people there would either die or have to abandon it to come back to earth inside about four to five months.
I mean, I don't see how there is going to be any steady stream of supply rockets going out to any space station--that kind of thing takes hundreds of people to coordinate, if not thousands--in the event of societal collapse, so underground bunkers it'll have to be.
I think if you maintain exercise with simulated gravity using bungees, space actually extends your lifespan somewhat as evident from the telomere length of one astronaut who has an identical twin who didn't go up.
We shoulda spent less time worried with sports teams and wars and more time investing in education and sciences. This play through of Sid Meyer's Civilization is about to need a restart.. ohh or more sea bases!
There is nowhere for the wealthy to run this time....
A study found being wealthy turned people into sociopaths so once you get up there you lose your ability to be human.
Is that definitely the direction of causation or does the behaviour of sociopaths get them into the wealth elite?
They theorized being rich and isolated hurts your social skills. They lose the ability to read human emotions on faces. Obviously it takes psychopathy to sell out your fellow man for money, but once they’re wealthy it gets even worse.
Interesting read. Thank you.
sociopaths
If there's too many people on the planet, there is only one logical outcome. Does that make someone a "sociopath"? Sounds like an earth realist to me
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Ugh, appreciate the share as devastating as it is. Good luck to you and everyone else!
Prawn stars season 23 is coming up.
Sea grass is important to sea turtles too :(
What do you mean by “the Thai ministry”? The video states he works for the “department of marine and coastal resources”. Is he more important then than being just another government scientist?
Large human civilizations are dependent on cereal grasses like rice, wheat, and maize to sustain large populations. These staple crops have very specific growing conditions and are more sensitive to climate change than larger organisms.
So if we are worried about human beings surviving heat waves, we should REALLY be worried about crops surviving heat waves.
This is the stuff that people will wonder how it was missed when looking back. It is a fact that climate change will effect agriculture, yet it’s barely mentioned.
This is all I have been thinking about for years. “Sea level rise” as the most talked about side effect is preposterously insignificant compared to a few years where we grow way less crops.
Right? Like it's almost as if "sea level rise" is a ruse. I mean, I had a conversation with a person recently and she's skeptical about the impacts of climate change because "oh they said sea levels would rise and I don't see it happening."
It's like, "Good grief, lady, that's one of the most imperceptible things that climate change is doing and a ridiculous measure to use in terms of assessing its reality and the pressing and already occurring impacts."
And then she referred me to a video featuring a grifter named Gregg Braden as representing her position on things and that's when I realized it was going to be hopeless to even bother talking to her anymore about, well, anything, really.
Gregg Braden lol… my aunt pulled the same shit on me years ago, that guy is really popular in New Age circles.
Yeah apparently she works in some New Agey type shop that sells some kinda' computer controlled flashing light therapy or some shit. So that checks out, I guess.
I watched the video--because I'll give anything a fair shake--and it was mostly rehashed ideas that were on Art Bell Coast to Coast AM in the 90s. Like, wtf?
It’s easy as fuck to explain we all used to be farmers and understood the way of things
They turned us into bankers, so we didn’t know our ass for our hand
Now we can’t figure out why we can’t do anything
It’s because you’re not a farmer
I read this in Wilford Brimley's voice.
I actually sound more like the computer from 2001
I always say that when people bring that up. “I can always just move away from the coast, I can’t magically grow food in a drought though.”We’ve been so softened and spoiled by easy access to resources we can’t even imagine not having water.
We had a small farm in the mtns. in our 70's. Hadn't been on one since childhood. Like riding a bike, especially with internet and Mother Earth News. I keep telling young folk, "Get thee to a farm, before everyone else."
Sea level rise is definitely a valid concern considering something like 70% of the world’s population lives near a coast, it’s just that the implications of food and water shortages are much more severe in the short term.
I've tried talking about global food shortage with a friend before, who is otherwise knowledgeable about global issues. His rather cynical response was "Why should we be concerned? It won't be richer countries that are affected. People in poor countries, that already have shortages, will starve but here it will just cost more."
Sadly this is true. Countries with unsustainable populations that experience famine still export food products, because they are either produced and owned by international corporations or the regime needs the money.
I've been in Laos before when there was a globally reduced rice harvest. All the tourist restaurants had signs saying they have no white rice and it was only available in the more expensive places that were definitely unaffordable for local people. I doubt that anyone in a developed country noticed, even if the price went up slightly. I did find out that they have mountain rice, which is perfectly fine but tastes like brown rice, that is a variety of rice that can grow on hills and doesn't need to be in water like other rice.
In other words most people in developed countries don't care about this because they don't believe they will be the ones who can't get food
"Why should we be concerned? It won't be richer countries that are affected. People in poor countries, that already have shortages, will starve but here it will just cost more."
Did you then direct him to look at: (1) the ever growing homeless encampments here in the "developed nations" and (2) the significant strain put on local food banks?
Because if those two things continue on the trend they are currently on, then it won't be long until he, who can allegedly afford his inflated grocery bill, will be getting mobbed and mugged in a parking lot or in his driveway for his groceries.
I mean, that's what I foresee happening, anyway: soon enough there is going to be a significant increase in crime simply because there is going to be a large number of entirely desperate people who don't have anything to lose and no other way to survive.
Doesn't matter, cheap slaughterbot to maintain "peace" will probably be deployed asap.
Before collapse, we're heading at full speed into the most dystopian fascist techno hellscape you can imagine. At this point we can only hope that collapse happens sooner than latter to avoid those sort of scenarios.
Yes eventually.. but the point is that before significant numbers of people are starving in the street in developed countries millions, if not billions, will be dying in famines elsewhere first. Yes all countries already have people that cannot afford to eat, but I suspect they will continue to criminalise being poor and turn them into prison labour before there is widespread violence.
I don't believe we should be so blasé about it, but I think most people will be until their own stores have empty shelves. Otherwise they will blame the poor for being poor as usual.. I mean, it is already happening. There is already civil war driven by climate change related food scarcity in Sudan, Syria or Yemen and no one really gives a shit.
Yes, well, I am certainly not trying to dismiss that point and your friend seems a callous and uncompassionate person--but more than that, his view seems shortsighted.
My point is more that the dynamics of the situation in wealthy nations will not be so simple as he figures. It's neither that things will merely cost more nor that billions will die in poor nations first, but that as cost of living becomes more unsustainable for people in wealthy nations this will set up repercussions that directly effect the people who can seemingly afford such cost increases.
It's been said that anarchy is only nine meals away. If there is a large enough mass of people who have no food to eat, then no amount of police or protection for the "haves" is going to prevent those people from taking radically desperate measures.
So, while there might still be food on shelves in the stores for some, it won't matter much if mobs of people who can't buy those goods loot and pillage the people who can.
How monstrous. Maybe tell him about the disease that will spread during this time, first world won’t be able to avoid that.
what disease?
What do you mean? All of it. It’s well known that climate change will bring disease.
Start with a warming temperate region allowing insects carrying disease to come north, our mild winters are boosting tick populations and spreading Lyme disease like wildfire. Malaria, Zika, Tsetse, yellow fever, all the tropical diseases our winters save us from will be able to spread up.
Then you have the resulting human density from 10 billion people not being able to live across the globe any more. That will bring TB, influenza, typhus, cholera and all the fun stuff that comes with too dense population and not enough infrastructure.
That’s barring any of the biological weapons labs being broken into and used against the first world as revenge, or as a result of warring between first world nations.
We’re currently watching avian flu mutate closer and closer to being transmissible between humans. Would be our second 100 year pandemic in a decade of it happens soon. I’m not sure how often these super rate events need to happen before people realize how bad it’s gotten.
Ok, but you wrote "about the disease" which seemed like you were thinking about a specific one :)
Then you have the resulting human density from 10 billion people not being able to live across the globe any more.
I wouldn't worry about that. Europe will not those people in. They will most likely die.
Europe doesn’t have the ability to stop them if they all come at once. Better start building a 40,000 Km wall.
That’s bc often the counter argument is “but CO2 is good for plants” with a complete disregard for the effects CO2 has on everything else. Been in a number of talks on that topic with deniers.
I’ve tried providing them with sources in the past without any luck. There’s not much help if someone chooses to turn a blind eye and ignore science
Oh there are solutions, but they are still frowned upon. They will become the general way of doing things in the quite near future, though, I suspect.
Mass famine because of crop failure is literally my biggest fear of climate change. World wide drought causing water shortages is a close second.
"Why didn't they tell us?" "Why weren't we warned?"
But it’s only 3% of GDP!
Because if we don't think and talk about it, it won't happen and we can focus on working, producing and consuming. Right?
This is the true collapse that will kill billions. Various systems can collapse and people suffer but people still largely survive even though quality of life becomes worse. What we cannot exhibit resiliency through is the collapse of industrialized agriculture. Agriculture collapses and people die. Simple as that.
This is my expertise, and what I studied for my dissertation. Flowers and pollination cannot tolerate heat, and they have a narrower range of tolerance because the development of reproductive organs and gametes is highly sensitive to temperature. The entire dynamic of pollination changes due to heavy qualitative effects to the point where there is no way to overcome it. My research found that flowers would need to receive x200 (that's correct) the quantity of pollen to overcome the effects that heat has on pollination.
I know tomatoes won't set fruit above a certain temperature (around 95F) and the spring tomato growing season effectively ends around mid-summer where I live. After it cools off we usually just replant for a fall crop. But the hotter it gets, the longer that mid-season bubble will be. It's definitely going to throw planting times off.
Good thing we have a lot of bees! Oh wait.
RuBisCo activase is heat sensitive and a particular weak link. No RuBisCo/ RuBisCo activase and for many grains, no photosynthesis. And no photosynthesis, no grain. Scientists have been working on this, but it should have been funded at a Manhattan Project scale.
It will be, once it’s too late and we’re all starving.
BuT PlAntS LoVE CO2!
Well theres always sturgeon roe. Tons of it!
There is a large group of Australian conservatives who simultaneously hold the policy positions that climate change is not real and doesn’t need any reductions in greenhouses gases, and are also utterly opposed to migrants entering the country.
The millions of climate refugees that are going to overwhelm Australia because of the environmental policies these people push is one of the black humour things I am expecting to see.
Sadly this could be deliberate. The threat of mass migration is used by the right to gain support for a more hard-line approach. The more migrants come the more power they will have. They are 'The Other' which can be blamed and dehumanised. Until at some point all beaches have barbed wire and bunkers and the navy is blasting small boats full of desperate women and children out of the water, with the full support of people who dont want to reduce their lifestyle.
Why would anyone move to Australia? It's hot over there too and everything is trying to kill you over there too!
One of the more exciting things about the climate getting warmer is that spiders will get bigger and faster. So bigger and faster Huntsman spiders in Australia. Sweet dreams!
I for one welcome our new spider overlords.
Happy for the puppy spiders to be bigger and faster. Redbacks and funnel webs on the other hand?
There could be something to be said for the idea of moving there now, as test run for the rest of the world in the future. If you can successfully learn to live a subsistence lifestyle in a remote deserty part of Australia, while you still have the modern world and technology to fall back on if necessary, then you would have the knowledge to move somewhere that will become like that as the climate worsens. Set yourself up for the long haul while the rest of the world are fleeing to the poles. Pre-collapse to de-collapse.
The first time that you use your credit card after your tourist visa expires your happy ass will be on a plane back home.
So you're saying I would only need to buy a single ticket 😆.
I meant with a legal right to be there of course, I would be a professional bogan.
750,000 people just last year weren’t too worried. Plus, you can buy a higher education over here as easily as you can a loaf of $9 bread.
A few boatloads of economic migrants have turned up on Australian shores in recent months. All undetected and the people only found after they wandered into settlements.
Some Indonesian fishermen were apparently eaten by crocodiles though, so I guess nature does provide some defense.
Reminds me of the Republicans in the states. They deny climate change but then fixate on building a wall clearly meant to stop climate migration.
I mean, it's pretty easy for Australia to close off borders so refugees can't get in.
Diplomatcally, yes.
Physically, no. We've had decades of fearmongering from right wing politicians about "boat people" arriving en masse along our northern coastline (ironically, the number of people arriving pales in insignificance to the number of visa overstayers from western countries). Getting here is not the challenge.
Practically, IDK. I think if boat loads of people started landing on our north coast our military would struggle to turn them back due to the sheer size of the coastline. That said, the inhospitality of that part of the country means that trying to get from any random point along the coast to a population centre is no joke.
barely anyone at all arrive by boat, because, physically, Australia is hard to get to.
If things got real bleak it would be real easy to sink ad-hoc boats from desperate refugees with modern weaponry.
The surveillance drones currently in use have missed a few boatloads of refugees this year.
I reckon it won't be too many years until newer drones just sink the boats well out to sea.
That said, the inhospitality of that part of the country means that trying to get from any random point along the coast to a population centre is no joke
Exactly.
they could sink some of the boats, perhaps that would scare some people off?
I reckon details of this situation explain why the climate change policy paper written by the Australian intelligence community has not been released to the public. The UK and US ones were released (albeit with some details redacted), but the Australian one has been kept secret.
The idea that millions of people will be flooding in is apparently too much for the public to bear.
BUT WONT SOMEONE CONSIDER THE ECONOMY?
I would be genuinely curious what would /r/economics propose as a solution to this.
I know exactly what they will propose:
We grow all food for everybody in algae - its easy and cheap - only the rich will eat other stuff
Molecular technology where EVERYTHING is broken down to atomic level and rebuilt.
mumble mumble something endless energy endless resources from mumble mumble that will mumble
Time compression that allows us to use these technologies and spread them virtually instantly
Same with /r/singularity. In fairness, someone somewhere will have a reasonable response. This sub is like most subs and is very one sided to the point that shouting one of the slogans is enough to be a top rated comment.
we are not immune
faster than expected!
A sufficiently intelligent AI would be able to solve climate problems in efficient ways while also reducing our current emissions by providing novel alternatives to current energy solutions. On top of that, an AI can research the long term effects of new potential products being pushed by large corporations, and will be able to find links to damage of life or ecosystem much faster than an individual could.
What if the AI suggests stopping all emissions immediately? Would you comply? Would our wealthy overlords always out for a line moving up, up, up?
What if the AI recommends no more children being born for a hundred years to get pollution to a safe level?
Maybe Ai suggests no more drilling new oil. Will every country comply?
For decades computer models (a form of Ai) have suggested cutting emissions, stop mass farming meat, stop burning so much carbon and literally NOTHING has been done. Why would new AI opinions be treated any differently? They would be treated as too extreme or not profitable enough to consider.
There is nothing coming to save us from ourselves.
The thing with AI/techland is that it's basically magic, so you say we wouldn't stop emissions then someone else could say that AI would figure out a system where stopping emissions would increase profits for the people who were opposed to it in the first place. Is that reality or magic?
I’m not sure what you’re asking. Ai is reality. Will it save us in some magical way? Probably not if profits come first.
Corporations have led the public astray for decades on how dire the whole situation is. First it was recycling then reducing then cutting personal consumption while they continue to pollute for the sake of their bottom line.
I still have family members who are quite educated who deny climate change is even happening- or if they admit it is happening claim it is a natural part of life on earth. No amount of facts, knowledge, or evidence will sway their opinion.
Not true in the slightest - these issues are social in their nature. Just like all famines are man made.
AI will not magically resolve our inability to confront scarce resources in a world of infinite want. That must come from our own self-reflection and growth.
What do you mean? AI absolutely could do that. That group of humans? Boom gone. Suddenly there are enough resources.
We'd have to give (that future version of) AI control over business (regulatory bodies too) and government though? I don't see AI getting the reigns and fixing things in the way you're describing without major changes.
If AI has connection to the internet it could essentially take control of almost every business and through that take control of the government. Government would technically be able to make it's own decisions, but when your economy dries up overnight if you don't comply, I feel like the wealth politicians will give in easily.
Paper over the cracks doesn’t lead to structural integrity… and it is dangerous to think it can
Not great about noticing jokes eh.
We’re an uncooperative species and short term focused. The only actual real solution as i see it is a true artificial superintelligence to govern our species. They’re trying to build an actual god over in the Silicon Valley, and exponential progress would indicate that they will eventually succeed. Hopefully our planet isn’t too far gone and it can fix the climate in its infinite wisdom, but I’m less optimistic about that. In effect, humanity’s technologic progress exponential is racing the exponential progression of climate change, and we’ll likely know the winner soon.
In one corner, inevitable doom of climate change and ecosystem destruction fueled by forever chemicals, in the other corner, a hyper intelligence that has usurped all connected systems in the world and put a strangle on governments forcing them to obey its implemented rules but ultimately saving humanity and the earth in some form.
What a time to be alive.
It would solve climate problems by shutting down the energy grid or exterminating all the people.
Honestly if the options are humans die with everything else on the planet as we slowly poison it, or AI removes humans and the earth continues on, the second sounds better.
More money?
It will be "geoengineering".
Remember that actor in Don't Look Up? The one that was trying to warn everyone of the terminal fate, and how he was largely unheard even face-to-face, as if the people were shell-shocked. To nod their heads and think this guy surely can't be right. The automatic clinging to protect, to hear a thing, but never truly letting that idea sink in.
Is this guy telling us it's over? We don't seem to be listening to him.
Well, most people don't want to accept it's all over but the crying, you know? And governments have a lot of reasons to not tell people 'Hey BTW climate's fucked, you're boned, we're going to our bunkers bye!'
They'll still do the last part, they just won't say anything.
The last thing the government wants is for people en masse to stop working due to panic. We’ll see them push businesses as usual until the very end
As all these eco systems are destroyed or damaged - what will humans do?
I will tell you what: We will intensify our efforts to destroy all those systems that survived and hasten the total destruction.
Another exponential curve that ends in a real BANG.
Yes, whatever, how does this affect my quarterly earnings report?
George carlin: "The planet is fine... the people are f*cked"
The animals, who played no part in this, are also fucked :(
I dunno about that. Would you consider Mars fine? Likely where we are headed
Earth has had hotter temps and more co2 in the past, may take multiple lifetimes but it will eventually return to a stable equilibrium
The problem is the speed in which it’s happening. It’s killing wildlife faster than it can adapt to new environments. If everything dies before anything evolves to sustain the environment, it’s a runaway train with no end in sight.
"So long and thanks for all the sea grass" 🎶
It’s terrible for all the marine life and turtles that depend on that grass 😭
Hope NASA is at work on that moon colony tech. We're going to need it here on Earth instead.
I have always said that this is what Musk's whole mars colonisation hype was all about... Get the scientists who dream of space involved, set up things like The Boring Company for building underground structures or SpaceX development of manned missions, for the problems of life support. Not to build a habitat on mars but right here on earth. I bet they already started it in the Rockies or something, as a 'facilty to research future space colonies'.
Hope it’s well guarded. I played Fallout. I know what happens to buildings like that 😂
Biosphere 2 is in Arizona, it’s really cool!
Why didn’t I think of that?! Let me just dump my piggy bank. That’s a dystopian woopsy.
That’s never going to happen. Self sustaining colonies are impossible.
People don’t appreciate that an artificial environment is created by taking resources from a natural habitat. No habitat, no humans. We can’t live on the International Space Station indefinitely
Ashgabat, Turkmenistan feels like a city made to entertain the 1% after collapse.
But I want to keep consuming…ugh it’s not time to end my insatiable desire to shop
People just wanted products to live their lives, noone ever asked for an unihabitable planet, a ruined climate, mass species extinction, pollution, pandemics and huge costs. Those were the result of the FAILED capitalist ideology of almost every western politician, DESPITE DIRE SCIENTIFIC RED WARNINGS. The People’s HUNT for the responsible persons will start. Carbon extracting CEOs, Carbon financing CEOs, Capitalist freedom Presidents, CEOs of POLLUTING companies, … To pay for it all, CLAWBACKS of Carbon profits will be required, The Elite has failed in their most BASIC mandate, to ensure a safe living habitat for humans. For this they must not be rewarded with VOTES, but be REPLACED by thinking representatives of the People at large, i.e. CRISIS governments who will take immediate actions with the sole aim of SURVIVAL of humankind.
People just wanted products to live their lives...
And instead they mostly got marketed lifestyles and endless heaps of trash to emulate those lifestyles. Confusing their desires for needs, as was also part of the marketing scheme, they willingly, and literally, bought into it all--with gusto!
The real ramifications--and truth--of "shop 'till you drop" have never been more apparent.
In fact those attractive models in the TV and cinema ads spelled MANKIND’s EXTINCTION.
But there’s a new show on Netflix I need to watch….
Disaster series?
Is there a text version of this somewhere that I can read in one tenth of the time and not have to worry about annoying pre-roll advertisements?
More like "uninhabitable city."
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Has anyone read "The Ministry for the Future" scifi book? It starts with a future heat wave that kills 20 million people in India. We haven't reached that level yet, but I'm expecting it any year now.
Except it’s not normal.
This reminds me of the first chapter in Kim Stanley Robinsons ministry for the future--wet bulb effect when the ambient temperature and humidity are too high for the human body to cool. Scary stuff indeed.
... SA and SEA are 😬😰😮💨
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Astalon18:
This guy you see above works for the Thai Ministry. He is willing to do an open interview on the current heatwave hitting South East Asia. He is also kind of also open about the idea that what is coming up next for South East Asia is not going to be pleasant and may be uninhabitable.
I also heard rumors sea grass have died in the Gulf of Siam all the way to Kelantan in Malaysia. I did not know how true it was. However given he is saying it than it has to be true.
This is not good.
This is collapse related because well .. the heatwave if it destabilises South East Asia and South Asia anymore will have monumental impact upon the rest of Asia and Australasia. It will also affect food supply as a lot of rice comes from us. It will also affect the sea trade route as if the areas around the Straits of Malacca becomes too hot or uninhabitable world trade will be disrupted.
More importantly, a lot of fresh water fish cultivation comes from our region. Have that gone and a lot of global cheap protein disappears.
I am not even sure how the prawn industry is going to survive given Gulf of Thailand is so hot now.
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