Looks good to me
This is gonna be a hit. This book is all over tiktok and the casting has been in the news since 2 years and on tiktok. This will attract the book lovers crowd like where the crowdad sing movie
Crawdad is definitely the best comp, and that movie had pretty poor reviews. If this one can hit 70+ on rt and have decent WOM, it can be a lot bigger
was where the crawdads sing a huge hit?
$144 mil off of a $24 mil budget. It did very well.
oh i had no idea. i wonder why people don’t mention this film more
It wasn't big with the typical reddit demo.
It's a good movie
It’s a rich person’s fantasy of a poor person.
Tiktok is like youtube, there's videos on every subject. There's a very large book community with videos recommending, reviewing, discussing/reacting to books. If a book is popular on tiktok (or twitter or reddit or...) it means lots of people are reading and talking about it
Will do better than Challengers, might do Anyone But You's number
Borderlands looks like it's trying to appeal to a wider audience than this but this will do better imo as they come out the same weekend
It'd need similar crazy legs as ABY to do its numbers. I think it will open bigger but will settle around the range of Crawdads.
Crawdads seems like a more realistic bet I'll admit but I decided to go bold due to the book having insane popularity and think it'll appear to younger demos than Crawdads as Crawdads was mostly older women iirc
Only two rom-coms releasing in theatres this year and both by Sony and that too in the space of five weeks.
Rest of the year is bare.
Rom-com? Isn't this an abuse drama? What's the other one?
Fly Me to the Moon, most likely, but that's an Apple movie, being distributed by Sony like Napoleon last year
They're remaking the 2008 animated movie about houseflies going to the moon?!
Lol I think about that any timeI see the title.
i didn't get rom com vibes from this at all
Author isn’t romcom author, she’s more into drama and suspense
It's not a rom-com, leans much more into the romance drama. It'll work well for the Twilight, Fifty Shades, Bridgerton audience
Sony being smart. There’s a lot of money on movies that appeal mostly females.
Not the target audience but rooting hard for this to be a hit.
Why?
Because I’m #teamwatchmoviesattheaters and for that we need counter programming to all the action flicks and horrors that have been released this year. It’s a travesty that all female content is going direct to streaming now. Then studios get surprised that women aren’t rushing to theaters like before. With the women come the girlfriends and the long suffering Partners (boyfriends, husbands, sugar daddieS) , sometimes the sisters and daughters so hopefully this is a hit.
Yeah this kind of movie would’ve starred Rachel Macadams and Channing Tatum in 2007 and made $200 million dollars randomly. I think if we could get back at least a fraction of that kind of success at the box office for these kinds of movies, it would be a win.
Didn’t anyone but you by the same studio became a big hit? The flash and the marvels envy those profits. And those horrible fifty shades movies were rentable enough that the studio gets enough money to get confidence in something like Oppenheimer. We don’t need to go that far back to the notebook, just this year anyone but you delivered.
There is some comparison there but Anyone But You is a romcom. I’m talking about the weepies directed towards a female audience
With so little product for women anyone but you is a fair comparison. It’s Closer to it ends with us than challengers. Yes one is comedy other is drama but both are aiming to females in a way no recent movies have tried lately. Challengers seems to aim for the Oscar crowd.
Looks like a prime video streaming movie
True but those should open in theaters first. Otherwise there isn’t counter programming to all the action flicks and horrors of the past 8 months.
Nothing that has flopped in the past few months is something to be proud of. All are action flicks that look like any streaming action comedy. At least Sony will cater to an unserved demographic: women . And with women come their girlfriends,partners, hopefully the book crowds.
I'm not into female oriented drama but rooting hard for this one .
maybe it can do an anyone but you?
I think it’ll open a lot bigger.
250M WW
I'd say 150m. Just to be on the safe side.
That feels about right. The book is popular enough to do $110M-$160M in spite of the heavy subject matter.
Is it that popular?
the book is super popular
Yeah just saw the trailer and I can see its appeal to a similiar crowd to Crawdads.
Top selling novel of both 2022 and 2023. I think this is going to be a hit.
oh wow. this is going to be big then.
I'm probably the only person on the sub who thinks this movie might underperform. Lively seems miscast. Lily is in her early 20s not mid 30s. The book was massively popular on BookTok and probably still is but they should have gotten an actress around the same age as Lily and the Gen Z fans reading the book. Lively isn't a box office draw on her own but they probably wanted a famous actress in the role. Sadie Sink or MBB or Madelyn Cline or Ariana Greenblatt or another actress around that age would have been a better choice for the role of Lily.
There are no actors that are box office draws. Even Tom cruise the rock and Keanu have opened below expectations.
Some actresses might be a box office draw for Gen Z girls and women. MBB is very popular with that demographic. But the point was more that I assume they cast Lively in the role although she isn't the right age because they think she is a box office draw. Otherwise they would have cast a younger actress.
Who is MBB? And many of that demo prefer to see their celebrities on tik tok and IG than at movies.
The only box office draw for gen_z I can think of would be Lisa and Jennie from black pink. If they draw people to the concerts maybe they can draw them to box office. But not with a bad documentary , a good written role.
Even harry styles and Taylor swift movies have underperformed with gen z demo.
Blake lively isn’t a draw but no one is.
Millie Bobby Brown. Damsel did well. I understand streaming ratings will always be higher than movie theaters but if only some of the people who watched Damsel went to a movie because of her it would be successful.
Her new film Damsel recorded 35.3M views in just three days of availability
There aren't "movie stars" the way there used to be but studio executives complain that Gen Z doesn't watch movies in theaters anymore but except for a few exceptions they continue to give lucrative roles to actors who were famous in the 90s or 2000s instead of helping young actors get more recognition. This movie was the perfect chance to see if a younger actress could pull Gen Z back into theaters.
True about Millie, but there’s a reason Netflix keeps her busy. And Coleen Hoover herself wanted it to be an older actress so …
They aged up the characters for the movie to make it realistic for the Ryle character to be a neurosurgeon.
In the book Ryle is finishing his residency when he meets Lily. Most people doing a residency are in their 20s not mid 30s so having the characters in the movie be older wasn't more realistic. Also the girls and women reading Coleen Hoover books aren't frustrated because the characters don't have realistic jobs. The books are about relationships. They should have cast a Gen Z actress since that is the age of the fans of the book.
Yeah, I just told what CoHo herself explained about the decision to go with older actors.
Also, if you ask me, even if a book is popular it's still not guaranteed box office.
Nothing is. Comic books and action flicks used to be the safe draw not anymore. This will perform well mostly because some women want to go to the theater and there has been nothing for them since anyone but you. Challengers doesn’t count. It’s an arthouse film about ambition. Not a female oriented flick.
The casting is really, really disappointing. I think Blake is a really bad choice for this… and what’s worse is that they chose the most random Taylor Swift song ever for the start of the trailer just because they’re friends.
I read the books, and while I think these will make money, i wish the screenwriter would have fixed the stories to make them more realistic.
Gorgeous Lily Blossom Bloom with no friends opens her dream flower shop and in walks a rich woman who practically demands to work for Lily FOR FREE and she happens to be the sister of the neurosurgeon just met recently because they just randomly met on a rooftop.
I mean. It’s Hallmark but with a darker twist.
SPOILER ALERT
It turns out (spoiler alert) the homeless boy who was her first love is actually now Boston’s most successful restaurant owner/chef. Will she (a) stay with rich abusive neurosurgeon or (b) go will her first love who is also a rich successful business owner. And of course lily’s business is also a huge success.
Sony making more Netflix-esque movies.
And getting better returns than the studios releasing mostly action driven movies. This will have bigger returns than monkey man, boy kills world, ministry , fall guy.
I wonder how much the budget is? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s in the $25 million range or so just like other Sony movies of this kind. People would probably be ragging on this movie for how cliche and Lifetime-y this looks if it was an original movie but since it is based on a popular book it might do fine which is kinda astounding. Maybe my screenwriter friends was on to something when they said they are turning their scripts into novels now since those are easier to get made into films rather than make something that is actually daring and original (this past April surely didn’t help with those fears either)
This is a movie now? It's legitimately one of the worst books I've ever read. Not cause I didn't enjoy reading it (I was never bored or anything), but cause of how AWFUL the writing is. Not to mention how problematic it is, but the fans don't seem to want to get to that yet. Its a shame this is only further popularizing it.
Right! I like Colleen Hoover’s plots but not the writing. I personally enjoyed It Ends With Us (hated the sequel) and Verity for what they are, but I don’t think I’d seek out another book by her unless something changes.
Lolita was problematic.
A song of fire and ice (game of thrones) was problematic
A hundred years of solitude and chornicle of a foretold death are problematic
Poor things was problematic both movie and book
Glad when women support this narrative that only men should be allowed to write problematic content and be praised for it. Heaven forbid a woman writes tabboo because that means there's freedom of speech and equals the ground? Right.
Side note: you dont' have to watch it, go and read problematic content written and praised by men. To each their own.
I absolutely have criticized every single one of those books, though I absolutely disagree with the criticism about Lolita.
This is not a post about any of those books. Why bring sexism into this?
Not to mention, everything you mentioned are examples of good writing as well. It Ends With Us (while I didn't exactly hate the plot itself, besides the problems and poor writing) is an example of how the publishing industry is pushing out novels like these much like fast fashion is, to a degree I suppose.
There are positive and negative ways to portray the negatives and positives of taboo, but It Ends With Us is not a positive way of doing so.
Shh, it's okay. No one here cares what you read, or what I read for that matter. The Thing is "problematic" or not the movie is a reality, Just don't watch it since it's "problematic". Go and read problematic content written and praised by men while Colleen Hoover and his alledgely "poorly written" allegedly "problematic"content gets successful the way very few women get to be succesful. Play the only men can write problematic content game all you want. It's okay.
Perhaps Game of thrones is more your taste since you were the one bringing the word "problematic"? Is that your kind of approved "problematic"?
I can recommend plenty of highly praised "problematic" books written by men since you are okay with that. What about Mario Vargas Llosa Pantaleon novel?
Why can't popular modern literature written by women have a movie as successful as this is going to be, without writing literature that is problematic. There's so much good stuff out there written by women, and I really hate to see it go unnoticed. Why are you so hooked on the idea that only men can write problematic books? It's a little strange if you ask me...
Edit: I also kinda wish this was directed by a woman. Even though more and more mainstream cinema (and tons of indie stuff too!) is being written or directed by women and more female stories are being produced, I would've liked to have seen this done by a woman.
If anything, it'll get more female audiences to the cinema and more female stories told!
Edit 2: That's what I thought.
Why are you so hooked on the idea that only men can write problematic books?
I can't care less if a movie or book is problematic or not because it's called freedom of speech. You were the one using the term and the one who is more critical of it happening when it's done by a woman. So thanks for playing the men can do it but women can't game. It's you who felt the need to trash a woman's sucess and popularity because you found it "problematic"
Thanks god not all books are political correct, thanks god many books are problematic and still made movies. Thanks god this movie will raise the popularity of something you dislike. Go and watch game of thrones. Because that's so not "problematic" right?
I think this will make money it’s first weekend then completely fall off quickly the following weeks. The book is huge, sure, but it won’t translate to the general public who haven’t read the book. The trailer just isn’t interesting enough to draw in people who haven’t read the book. It’ll probably do Mean Girls numbers.
Is this a romcom about domestic violence? 😬
romantic drama, but yes
This is one of the books that gets stolen off my classroom bookshelf every year. Maybe the most read book among my female students for a few years running. Will be huge.