I went through the absolutely painstakingly agonizing process of killing Radahn and Mogh with a +3 weapon at level 12 so I could get hefty pot recipes. They hit like a truck containing 500 toasters though. Very fun.
Add the great jar helm and lighting scorpion charm for even more kaboom.
You can skip Rallana by going up the spirit jump near the castle. The ancient dragon man boss wasn't that hard.
You get 2 hefty pots in bonny village without killing a single thing, and 2 more pots in the belurat gaol dungeon, which you can run through and not have to kill a single thing.
The crafting recipe for hefty lighting pot is available 2 mins into the dlc without having to kill a single thing.
Everyone in this thread is super salty I guess, did they forget what sub this is?
Oh, there's more.
You can easily get Eternal Sleep Pot recipe and there's an entire flower field of ingredients near the Fissure.
Hefty Red Lighting pots are similarly easy to find and craft.
Perfumed Oil of Ranah is an infinite perfume item. It's weaker than proper perfumes, but on level 20 with fire buff it's still 350 damage per use for ~13 FP.
Really, the only hard to get part of the DLC is the Abyssal Woods because it requires killing Inquisitor at low levels. Didn't stop me at level 7 though . Now i'm cosplaying a frenzied maniac in Stormveil, going around on a routine with a frenzy torch, and repeatedly blasting hosts with madness as they fight pve.
I see I’m not alone in my quest to madden stormveil hosts. May chaos take the world!
Alternate solution is play on PC and have 600 of every pot.
Gigagib my beloved
just killed jori on a twink build and i gotta say it was quite awful. made me break down and go farm skibidi frags and sacred ash
He's awful but there's a relatively "simple" strategy against him
Certain gravestones to the right allow you to safely fire an entire Rot Breath unless he's doing his ground chain explosion attack. Afterward, you can annoy him with the homing status effect arrows from the bone bow mixed with Black Flame. Rot Breath also destroys all his adds in the beginning of phase 2. Combine it with the shield boys to give yourself more breathing room. This is how i beat him in under 15 tries, it all came down to the RNG of his fatass summon behaviour.
How did you kill Mohg at level 12?
Launch patch hoarfrost stomp
Poison antspur + Unsheathe Uchi +3
Tiche.
Carian Retaliation to parry his blood splatters.
That's it. He melts.
YOU CAN PARRY THE BLOOD WITH CARIAN RETALIATION? I was just dodging it, yeesh. I used a combo of bleed antspur with poison mist and swapping to bloodflame raptors claws once he had rot going to get through him.
Ah classic. Poison antspur, black knife, frost star fists, +10 Tiche, black flame tornado for big bosses. All the twinker's best friends. I didn't try unsheathe though, I guess it does huge poise dmg.
how do you get tiche? The boss that guards her is a pain.
Astel is actually super easy, with clear patterns and predictable behaviour, i literally have no additional tips against him because i never found him hard. He can be rotted.
It's harder to actually defeat the ringleader that drops her. But there's an AI exploit where her AI turns off if you push her into one of the far corners.
well yeah astel is easy, i meant the black knife.
I think there’s a spot on the edge of the gaol that she can get stuck on
Rot, poison, cold, bleed, carian retaliation
I’ve killed him and Radahn with unupgraded bloodflame raptor talons. They do like 80 base damage per hit but the bleeds hits for 1000+ and ticks up quick.
I don't know if they patched it on DLC release but there was a way to cheese him without ever fighting him. You had to take this weird out of bounds route and eventually it causes him to despawn and die.
Yea the base game can be awfull i would have loved to use scarlet rot bolt on my lvl50 build but i am not gonna farm the blutterflys so i am useing bleed bolt instead
If you’re on PC I have a mule with tonsssssss of crafting mats from the base game so I can definitely drop a lot for you if you are on PC.
I am on ps5 play ps4 version but since the dlc i cant get the save editor on pc to work to give me stuff it did work before the dlc so idk why it stopped working
Yeah never used the save editor so I honestly couldn’t tell you why it’s not working that’s really strange might have something to do with the current version of the game but not entirely sure on that.
Yea i was thinking the same hope they update it soon some extra larva tears also wouldnt hurt
You can just get them dropped to you or just use cheat engine if you're on PC.
Honestly, elden ring is the only souls game where twinking is completely justified, if im gonna be forced to fight multiple people at all times, im using whatever the hell i want.
Facts. Every invade is just a constant 3v1. With these pots I love one shotting or close to one shotting the hosts over leveled phantom shitter friends spamming weapon arts repeatedly.
Honestly is it just me or is Elden ring pvp like, worse because of the 1 invader but also better cuz of all variety that can be used.
And do you miss ds3 anor Londo invasions, cuz man those 3v2 were fucking fun and god damn. The invader stories, some I'll never forget. But in a elden ring I feel like that magic is gone.
For sure the magic is gone. The 2v2s in lothric and the ringed city were legit. Now its 3 dudes waiting for 1 poor fucker to stumble upon them. They chase you down while the host runs away and casts magic.
I generally done understand why they did this. Invasions are so much worse now lmao.
Catering to a wider audience ig. Bc none of the other fs games were this accessible.
I'm assuming technical limitations on last gen consoles. That's the only reason I can realistically think of.
I'll likely be addicted to ER for the next year or so, but my previous break from ER got me hooked on BB and DS2. My next break I plan on playing the fuck out of DS3 again and I'm pretty excited for that
Don’t forget that normally the OLP are passwords that have end game loot so don’t feel bad about using broken end game weapons against them. It levels the playing field.
The fact that pretty much all of the FROM games with invasions always put you as the invader at a disadvantage like this is why I don't really try to invade in any of them. It's not fun to always fight at a disadvantage that big every time.
At level 50 they stll one shot people it's crazy
cringe asf
You got in the dlc with a level 12 character and hefty pots were the broken thing you brought back?
I mean if it works it works
im going to do the same thing on lv 25. wish me luck
I just did it with lvl 35 +3/+1. Took like 3 hours to beat Mohg lol
What did you use? I'm planning on using rot-breath and pots + the lil greatshield dudes
I don't know if they patched it on DLC release but there was a way to cheese him without ever fighting him. You had to take this weird out of bounds route and eventually it causes him to despawn and die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YIuSqPxkMc
But in general: Poison antspur, black knife, frost star fists, +10 Tiche, black flame tornado for big bosses. All the twinker's best friends.
patched with the dlc release
Shackled him in first phase and used bleed. Was able to get him to 2nd phase consistently without damage. Then I rotted him and played passively through P2 because every move was as a 1 shot.
There’s something so insanely gratifying about taking 80% of the health bar off a level 300 phantom with literally a big jar of rocks. Love me hefty rock jars. Simple as.
This is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of new optimizations...
And I had people giving me shit about running Death Knight longhaft axe at RL40 💀this is beautiful, I’m excited to see the new variety of twink builds ppl make from the dlc
Pst- light Greatswords get the same amount of bleed buildup as a normal Greatsword when infused, but hit multiple times with the heavy/jumping heavy attacks. I've avoided clipping it because I know gankers watch our sub now.
Absolutely perfect. Amazing work, keep it up
You could always do this with regular pots too. Consumables scale crazy at low level. Same clip could happen week one of the game releasing with a normal lightning pot.
What class you run this on? Did you use rot or bleed or both for the bosses?
Usually both. Rot + poison with a poison antspur rapier first, then switch to something to bleed them with while it ticks down. Combined with a +10 summon, that makes most bosses fairly easy even at low level.
Gonna try this on my twink😎
PvP is so insufferable
So killing Mogh and Radahn must have been fun at lvl 12.
I’ve done numerous times on them at level 1. Not I’m very good at pve, they are super easy to cheese, especially radahn
I usually hate twinks in fromsoft games, but in Elden Ring the odds are stacked so much against the reds that twinking feels completely justified
Me jar head, me throw jar.
Hot take, but 1 shot builds are boring. You get stuck in loading screen simulator hell, as you rapidly cycle invasion after invasion because they end so fast, and its never satisfying, because no effort had to be put in to the kill. Press a button and done. Gg. Outplayed.
why did you kill radahn tho?
You need to access the dlc.
Huh, i guess that makes sense considering the story. So if you only beat Mohg it doesnt let you in?
yup! you need to kill both Radahn and Mogh to access the DLC.
I’m interested to know why anyone would feel the need to have a twink
I don't usually level past 200 so I can't catch people on NG+, I enjoy having a level 50-70 character so I can invade in a wide range of the earlier areas. Never base limgrave though that's a bit toxic
The worst kind of red man. Invading in the opening area. Fuck off.
You challenged yourself in PVE getting to the DLC at RL12 just to take the easy way out in PVP. I don't get it.
I don't think this sub is for you
This sub is filled with toxic invaders who praise each other for doing almost nothing in PVP.
That's your opinion, but you must not invade at all. If you're on a low level invader account you need broken tools to beat over leveled phantoms, otherwise you're just a piece of cheese flying into the grater
No I invade. Have done PVP playthroughs. Have killed max level phantoms at starting level. It's not easy but twinking is way lamer than playing with your OLP friend.
Twinking @ low level is a necessity in ER, idk what you're on about. Quit crying about how others play the game
No it isn't. I'm criticizing others for being lame. You're getting worked up because somebody doesn't agree with you.
Yes I'm very worked up
then go somewhere else and quit whinging about it
Because fuck gank squads
This isn't a gank squad. It's two friends playing and one of them is probably new. You guys aren't serving justice most of the time you're just trolls.
Welcome to Dark Souls
Thanks but I've been here for a long time.
and yet still the concept of invasions is new to you, and you're still whining about them years later? Interesting.
Cringy post OP
Cringy reply
Yeaaaah gonna have to seriously doubt you slogged through Radahn, Mohg, and then several hours of DLC to both find the recipes and farm hefty amounts of materials for this when the DLC hasn't even been out for two weeks. I smell the smelly smell of the cheat engine at work here
Imagine not having several low level invaders with Mohg and Radahn already beaten YEARS before the DLC came out.
All the character builds mods have really spoiled people. We used to go all over the darn place, grabbing everything manually if we wanted to be a RL1 dickwraith! And we didn’t even have Scaroet Rot or Mimic Tears back in those days.
I booked all of last week off for the dlc. Already beat it on 4 characters on pc, and did my first blind play through on ps5. I've been playing souls games and pvp since ds1 on xbox 360.
Cope harder because it's clearly a skill issue.
I'll be honest and say that I did de-patch the game on steam and used launch hoarfrost stomp to beat both radahn and mogh, but it was still pretty damn hard. Never used cheats.
Nah, still gonna have to seriously doubt that, and I'll apply Occam's Razor here.
What scenario is more likely? That you used a cheat engine? Or that you went to all the effort of beating those bosses, collecting those heavy jars, all the equipment you're using, all the bolts, farmed all the materials, got the recipes for both dragon bolt grease (which is allll the way up in scorpion river catacombs) and heavy cracked lightning jar?
Look, I don't really care if you used a cheat engine for it. Just don't make up a story that's far less likely
You can skip rallana, by going up the spirit jump near the castle. The ancient dragon man boss wasn't that hard.
You get 2 hefty pots in bonny village without killing a single thing, and 2 more pots in the belurat gaol dungeon, which you can run through and not have to kill a single thing.
The crafting recipe for hefty lighting pot is available 2 mins into the dlc without having to kill a single thing.
I don't have recipe for the dlc grease, I got my friend to drop me 10, then we reset a few times so I could get some stored. The bolts are from the base game, not DLC.
You are delusional.
If it's any consolation, I believe you.
Thanks for the info, as well. I got a RL9 guy into the dlc right before it dropped.
Now I know what I'm grabbing first.
this idiot has never heard of console either
Lmao, whatever man. Honestly, if you did all that then more power to you I guess but that's a fat waste of time just to troll beginners
I have twinks to this level of min max in all souls games. Did it in ds2 with the ring to stop soul memory, and beat four kings at level 10 with a +2 in ds1 just for pvp covenant item.
I guess it's the internet, and everyone thinks everything is fake or cheated.
Not necessarily, but the simple answer is often the more likely one. Like I said, more power to you but it just seems like a ridiculous waste of time so that you can one shot brand new characters
Check what sub you're on
I'm fully aware what sub I'm on. I have low level invaders, but invading the first step is picking low hanging fruit lol
The entire sub is about wasting time, I mean it’s a VIDEO GAME
Skill issue. Lvl 1 runs are easy
Never said they were exceptionally difficult. It's just more about the time involved in doing so that seems incredibly unlikely based on the alternative
To get Radahn to spawn, you just need to reach Altus. You can do that within an hour of starting. You can also beat him at that point easily, just spam summons and poison him with a bow.
To get to Mohg you just need to do Varre's quest offline. This can also be done without killing a single boss. Killing him is a bit trickier and you may need a purifying tear from Eleonora, but frankly it's not a big problem. Just grab iron balls or star fists and slap cold on.
If you know what you're doing, this will take you maybe 10 hours tops.
Edit: 10 hours including DLC
I actually just over the weekend, made a RL110 invasion build for my buddy on his PS5. 13 hours of playtime, well explored DLC map with Divine Beast killed, and at Messmers door.
People seriously underestimate how quickly you can do stuff if you plan/prioritize and know where to go.
Before the DLC came out I made a new character and had him at RL90 maxed out weapons and knocking on Radagons door in one play session
Yeah Idk what these guys are talking about, I started fresh and getting to the DLC took like 7 1/2 hours, and I didn’t go fast by any means
You’re just simply wrong friend. Mohg and Radahn are both easily cheesable even on a RL 1 wretch. And all the Materials for the recipes are obtainable without much hassle. Furthermore if you don’t feel like wasting time grinding for mats. Im sure someone on r/patchesemporium would be glad to help out.
I had a RL20, 30, and 15 that had beaten all the way to Radagon ready for the DLC day 1
self-reporting yourself their man.
are you really that bad to not have done a sl1 run for YEARS before the dlc came out?
It's not about the difficulty of an sl1 run that I had an issue with lol. They aren't difficult once you know the bosses, and Elden Ring is the easiest game FromSoft has made.
What I have an issue believing is that OP allegedly put in all that time just to make a First Step twink build when it's far more likely he just used the cheat engine for it. I mean, yeah, if he has no life outside of video games then it's certainly possible but holy fuck.
Also, you seem to act as if Elden Ring has been out for 5+ years. It's been out for a little over two years now. So no, I haven't done an sl1 run "YEARS ago" as you say because I go out and touch grass as well as play games.
i mean, i myself have a first step twink and just killed jori inquisitor yesterday to access frenzy flame pots, its not that difficult when you use everything the game offers at your disposal.
edit: also on ps5 so cheats are not an option
I beat the dlc in 3 days and I'm shit mate, plus people are doing rl1 runs of it already
Not that hard to believe someone has got to the dlc at a low level lol
Damn, did you enjoy it at all? Speedrunning enjoyment and all.
I guarantee this build could be made in 4 hours tops, be fucking for real my guy
SL1 runs are a thing, really isn't that crazy difficult
The funniest thing though? You can easily farm heaps of Hefty Rot Pots without killing a single DLC boss. No need to minmax pot damage or anything, just throw it vaguely into the cooper direction.
I have no idea why base game materials are even limited at this point. Moore should sell infinites of them all by the end of DLC.