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This happened to my fiancé. Just picked up a second job and told them he wants part time, like three days a week. They scheduled him 5 days.
Part Time is the new Full Time
Part time is the excuse not to pay benefits.
And so they keep it just under 40. It's really that obvious. OP needs to stand up for themselves.
Even at 40 hours you dont have to pay benefits. My job is full time and doesnt.
Check local and state laws. To legally be owed benefits does not always mean you just have 40 hours/week
To have employer healthcare via the affordable care act in the US is 30hr week/130 per month.
Could be worse, my wife got a part time job at a bank call center in her 20s. It was 10-noon, 3-5pm every day, 5 days a week. Saturday was only 9-11am. She was only there for coverage of breaks. That job lasted 2 months before she got fed up about not being moved to full-time or getting benefits.
...how is this worse? Not everyone wants full time. A part time job should be a part time job.
This happened to me. They started giving me 4, then 5. So now when I fill out my availability I only have 2 days open.
They do this so when they inevitably have to cut hours they just can because they didn't promise you full time. Its everywhere in retail and the like and it's total bs. Where I work no one is full time unless you're a manager
Literally same. I work at a „certified great place to work“ with lots of benefits available…to full time employees. There are actually some available for part time as well, but far less, and the only ones on FT are managers, and one team lead.
Sounds like publix.
I just went 6/30 to 7/6 and ran the numbers. They are working you 49 hours during that time period. The second, partial week you show has 41 hours on the clock. Subtract a whole hour for lunch, and the first period is STILL over 40 hours for the first week. You are getting over 40 hours a week, there should be overtime pay and benefits.
Likely they're scheduled more regularly at 40-lunches and this was an anomaly week where they got a few hours of overtime, but benefits don't come in unless it becomes an every-week thing of 40 actual working hours. (It's bullshit)
Depends on the state; fair number of states Full Time doesn’t require 40. (People should really mentioned what state they’re in for these kinds of posts)
Depends on the company the gas station I worked at paid us time and a half for any time over 8 hours for the day. So you could work 36 in four days and still get 4 hours over time.
Which is cool. But in Ohio, for example, it’s only “overtime” if it’s over 40 hours a week, even if you work 4 ten hour shifts, none of it is overtime.
Yeah the IRS, for the purpose of the ACA, calls full time 35 hrs+ per week. I would imagine that entitles you to benefits.
And am I crazy, or is the screenshot math not mathing? That's over 40 hours in a week. Defenitely full time.
I'm assuming it's an unpaid lunch that pushes it to just under 40 hours.
That's assuming the unpaid lunch is an hour. If it's a half hour it's still 46 hours.
I think Sunday is considered the next week. With a half hour lunch, he worked four 8s and a 7 for a total of 39 hours.
How do you figure? Sunday to Saturday is 2 sevens and 4 eights.
Sunday to Sat is 6 days. The first week they're only off Thurs. Even with an hour lunch, they're working 43hs minimum.
Nevermind. Half the image was cut off in the stupid app viee. I see what you mean. Yes he is well over 40. OP is getting screwed.
Personally I would start calling out whatever days I want off. The fact that you’re being scheduled 7+ consecutive days is heinous enough.
Bro's working more hours than me and I'm full time💀
In the USA part time is under 32 hours. 'Just under 40 hours' is full time. They owe some benefits.
Been there
They’ve been doing this since the beginning of retail. It’s totally wrong.
"Zero hours" (does all the hours)
Welcome to Kroger. Join the union
Not Kroger. Meijers and our union is a bunch of corporate boot lickers
I’m still working with the same company, and to their credit they are very accommodating, but while I was in college, if I had the day off from school I would work 8 at the office, throughout the year I averaged something like 32 hours a week. They had a company handbook which stated employees working more than 1200 hours/year were entitled to 15 days of PTO, so I tracked my hours and brought it up. They denied my request for PTO since it was only intended for full-time employees. Still pisses me off.
This is full time in England. America is a brain dead country holy shit. Also illegal to work more than 6 days in a row consistently.
Look into the laws in your area, not sure they can legally have you working a certain amount of days straight, like 7 days straight in the second portion of the photo.
So, I can explain what's happening here as I also work for this grocery store chain (at least from my districts way of doing this).
Full-time status is calculated once a year. Used to be 36+ hours a week for six weeks, but with the most recent contract, it was negotiated to be done once at the beginning of the year. So, at the end of that year, if you average 36+ more hours a week, you're full-time.
Its soooooo fucking stupid and I absolutely hate it. Gotta make sure Rodney McMullen gets his millions in bonuses at the end of the year, while most of their associates struggle to pay their bills
My company uses this app as well. I hate it. I know that’s not what the post was about, just had to say it. :)
Part time just means not salary at this point
They do this so they don’t have to pay benefits. It is quite common in the customer service industry. Pay little, work full time hours, no benefits.
They're cheating the system thru a legal loophole. Anything under 40 hours is considered part time.
I’m sorry Kroger and the likes will never realize if they paid anyone a living wage working there would be a no brainer as of how easy it is. Sadly they ask for so little because the pay so little
Yeah I know you work part time, but what about second part time?
Some states determine overtime requirements by number of hours per day, not total hours per week. Check your state’s law.
Depending on where you live, they might legally have to make you full time status with benefits if you work over XX hours per week for enough consecutive weeks.
Don't ask how I know. 😏 It's how a former retail employer was forced to make me full time after I they gave me more than 32 hours / week for 6 weeks straight.
Reminder that this is illegal in the EU (most of it anyway) and the law would require this employer to offer you a full-time salaried contract and back pay/benefits missed due to this misuse of part-time employment.
Sounds like in your case this applies to you even in the US.
Could it be because a bunch of full time employees have vacation?
Look into your state's laws about hours. My old PT job had a deadset rule that you couldn't hit 32 hours at all or they legally had to offer FT benefits. I had a couple weeks I had 31:59 but I was actually done working. Might be worth a shot, but that'll light a fire under their asses to drop you down to PT.
Full time is considered 130 hours a month I believe.
I was told at one job "you'll be part time, but all of our part time people basically get full time hours". Like no, either pay for my benefits and pull me on as full time or don't work me full time
the alternative being they make you a full timer, and don't pay you on the overtime.
the alternative being they make you a full timer, and don't pay you on the overtime. & then you don't bother turning up at all & they can go fuck themselves.
There. Fixed that for you. Your welcome.
This is largely not correct - most full time retail jobs aren't salaried, therefore overtime is required to be paid.
At jobs like this you are likely under the overtime exemption salary of ~44K starting July 1st. So they would still have to pay overtime. Plus full time does not mean salaried.
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