Would you rather do something you love and make just enough money to get by or do something you hate but make billions of dollars?
Bro if you have billions of dollars you can easily live off the principle.
Current interest rate in my country is 4.35%
4.35% of $1 Billion is $43.5 Million. That's more than enough to live off for the rest of my life, let alone that much every year. Nearly $1M per week.
Average American in America will only make 3 million in their entire life (40+ years of working).
Just one year of interest can bring you generational wealth
True, but I'd rather have more money over time, not less.
True billionaire grindset. Also why we need to eat the rich.
Disagree. Because there are plenty of lottery winners who won and end up going back to waitering or whatever in the span of few years just splashing out mindlessly. Living off interests will always be safe in a life time.
Nah, what I said is objectively true. You absolutely CAN live off of a billion dollars for your entire life easily, not even billions of dollars.
Shit I could live off a million for the rest of my life. People need to realize there are lots of civilized modern countries out there where you aren't gouged at every turn. Anyone that couldn't live on a billion dollars is just really shitty with money. Like you'd have to be really... really bad with money.
What's really grinding my gears is me simply stating that a billion is enough to live off of, as like, a fact, and people are like "Oh but look at all these other factors! Look at how they didn't live off of that amount of money" and I'm just like... ok, how does that make what I said untrue?
People also don't understand just how much money A BILLION DOLLARS IS.
Yeah I suppose it’s theoretically possible that you could burn through a billion, but god damn it would essentially be a full time job to try and burn through it
Yeah, assuming you live for another 60 years, you’d have to spend $1.3M per month to fully exhaust that amount of money. Granted, inflation will have reduced the value of that $1.3M down to something closer to $100k by 2084, taxes would presumably take a significant chunk out of those numbers, and this is all assuming that the American economy won’t collapse under pressure from any number of factors, but still… it’s a truly incredible amount of money. You could fuck off to a private island and buy all sorts of dumb shit and still be just fine.
That's reddit for you. Everyone has to prove you wrong, not matter the silly examples they want to give. But seriously, anyone that blows through a billion dollars is an Olympic gold medal winning fucking moron.
Depends on the person. Some people can get complacent and end up spending more and more ridiculous sums of money. Just end up buying islands randomly Paying Taylor Swift to give you personal concerts for months on end. Would likely take at least a while for a regular person to think that big but can happen.
Pretty sure with that money you should be getting lawyers and financial investment people to monitor things for you though to prevent you from goin that crazy.
Guys, I'm not saying moderation is dumb and people can't possibly blow through a billion dollars in a lifetime. All I was saying was that unlike 3 or 4 million dollars, which does NECESSITATE living off of interest because the principle alone won't last a lifetime, a billion dollars WOULD, so you don't mathematically need to live off of interest.
I was not commenting on spending habits, reckless lottery winners, self control, or anything else besides the literal bare bones fact that a human being CAN live off of a billion dollars in and of itself.
If the person is an idiot then they deserve to lose it.
Do you have any idea how much 1 billion is? That’s enough to buy 1000 mansions. And this isn’t even one billion, this is several billion. Besides, most lottery winners win in the millions, not the billions.
technically richest person to ever go broke after the lottery would probly be $300 mil in terms of winning. i dont think we have seen ever an actual billionaire lottery winner go broke. tho theres probly only like 2 of them in the country who won billion dollar lotteries? one of them is buying houses up in LA's richest neighborhoods but i dont think hes nearly going broke yet.
And he's practically guaranteed to double that money in ten years by selling them or just literally drowning in money for people crazy enough to live and pay rent there.
This happens because a lot of people are absolute morons when it comes to money and they tell everyone they know about it. I thought about it, if I won the Powerball I’d walk into Berkshire Hathaway and have them manage my money. I’d set up a yearly stipend paid to me and buy a couple properties outright.
Use a % of the interest to buy new revenue streams. Live off of a % of the earnings and fold the rest back into the trust.
And then do the thing you love.
I’d do it for a few months. That’s way more money than I’ll need and that way I don’t completely ruin myself over something I hate.
I'd just do it for one month.
Yes. Exactly. Then you can spend the rest of your life doing what you love to do. Sadly the reverse isn't possible in this scenario or real life.
Exactly this. I can easily stomach one or even a couple years doing something I hate. Already did it in the past in fact. Even if I came into a lot of money, I think the most I’d do is pay off debt, fix anything I need to with my current lifestyle, and continue without changing much else. Live as if we only had my paycheck still and let that money grow in the background.
Hate. You don't have to do it forever and "just enough money to get by" sounds like a stressful life with no retirement savings.
Hate is strong. PTSD isn't worth currency.
1 year of hate for a lifetime of whatever the fuck I want is a price I'm willing to pay.
Yeah but hate isn't just a strong dislike, imagine going through a year of torturing puppies or something genuinely imaginative, not just some rough trash job or something because to hate something is to claim it opposite your soul. You may agree to pay the price but you won't likely come out the other end as yourself. Meanwhile you are guaranteed to love the other choice and not be priced out of the economy. It's a really easy choice.
You come out of neither of these scenarios as the you you currently are imo. As someone who literally only made ends meet for a few years it changes you, in bad and good ways. As someone who followed his dream and got that job, it eventually became tainted buy the stuff around the part I loved. If I can suffer for a year and be so unbelievably well off after then I can find solace that my family and friends will be eternally taken care of regardless of what happened to me. It is the greatest honor for me to suffer in the place of even 2 people let alone everyone who has brought joy and love into my life.
Sure but is that suffering okay to inflict on others? Remember I've staked that already. If you make hundreds suffer to benefit your two that's definitely a net evil to the world.
It seems like you're really going out of your way to make the job you hate some unthinkable evil practice, torturing puppies as your example states, and not you know an actual job. Which honestly just feels like a bad faith argument since that's just not a job people have, that's a psychotic extra curricular activity.
I would willingly do any actual job that exists without hating it barring something like the military which is actually a decent analogue here. The prompt specified magic when it said it could make a job I'd love so I was assuming that logic applied to creating jobs I'd hate. Again I'm operating in the power of those words by definition. I might dislike being a pawn in some crappy place or something but I'm only going to actively hate participating in something particularly gruesome like harming others. My hatred is reserved for the truly despicable, and as such to do something I'd hate would be to become that somehow. I don't see a way of getting past that word without scarring myself past the point where billions have value to me, even if I were to give it away to others I care about then that just adds my blood to the pile. Meanwhile option B has me ecstatic to work somewhere for okay pay and none of those negative implications.
So why does your hate have to be my hate then? Your hate seems like this metaphysical ideal of hate, mine is the physical reality of hate.
Also the prompt says nothing about conjuring fictional occupations from thin air. Also I don't think that just getting by is OK pay. Just getting by is enough have the bare minimum of food, shelter, and water. Just getting by means virtually no non essentials. No going out to a bar with your friends, no movies, no TV, no video games, no pets unless youre cool with them starving too, no nothing that isn't for your direct survival that is the reality of just getting by and that actually exists for many people.
The more I read these, the closer I get to seeing this as an agree to disagree scenario.
More of a can't agree on basic definitions of both words and reality kinda scenario, but I'm getting frighteningly used to those.
There needs to be a specific timeline on the hate job. How long until we get to the first billion? I’d quit at the first billion depending on the timeframe. I’d have more money than I’ll ever need past 200 million.
Also how much do you hate the job? Is it "this job is annoying and pointless so I hate it" or is it "I'm stuck in a coal mine coughing up a lung and will likely shave up decades of my life due to this. I hate it".
I kind of casually dislike all the jobs I've ever claimed to hate. My actual hatred is a little harder to actually rile. I dislike cleaning dishes but I'd hate having to torture or kill people. I may be overthinking this though because nobody else seems to be considering this all that seriously.
This. No job is worth your physical or mental health
I will quit way before the 1 billion.
Fuck I'm quitting when I hit 50 million, maybe less. I'm simple, I like simple things.
"Would you rather do something you like and have it ruined by the fact you've turned it into a job meaning you have to do it everyday for just enough money to get by or make billions of dollars doing something you don't like but at the same time it's just work so it doesn't matter"
There’s nothing I’d hate doing for a quick bil lol.
How about dying? :P Lots of jobs that comes with..
It doesn't say quick. It'll take your lifetime. Though if you don't care about an actual billion, the millions will come pretty darn quickly.
Well I mean it says billions, not just a billion.
Id settle with twice.my current pay honestly.
If it was something I truly hated, I don’t think any amount of money would make me do it. Being a torturer, for example. I wouldn’t want to gain the world just to lose my soul.
Same here, I feel like people are interpreting this question very differently from how it's explicitly phrased. It's not doing something you dislike, it's doing something you are against on a soul level. The other option benefits from the use of strong language too similarly. Id do something I love for no reason, enough money to get by is a slightly better incentive than that alone even. Exist in relative comfort while playing video games all the time or receive more money than I could reasonably spend to set puppies on fire or something is an easier choice than most I make.
Needs more info. How much is the pay per year? Do you have to stay for a predetermined number of years?
Something I hate, for a short time. Then I don't need to stress myself out about affording things I like doing, like having food and medical care.
If I pick the job I hate am I allowed to quit after a year and live off my savings?
Hate? Billions is life changing amount of money for my friends and family. Am I just not allowed to quit? I’d still do it, unless it was highly unethical or something.
Yeah then do it badly enough that you get fired. You have a billion so who cares.
Do the thing I hate for more money. I will do the things I want to do when I have off
Do the thing I hate, earn even a few million, quit, do the thing I love
Do the job that I hate for some time, till I get enough money to never worry about it and then switch to doing something I love and live freely
It depends on the time, if it is a thing that is for life, I prefer something that I like.
Hate my life for a few months. Then retire with a few hundred million. Take that money and do whatever I want to
Well I'm currently doing the first one. It's pretty great, not gonna lie.
I have already made an analogous choice, and the answer is the former.
Do something you hate... I think that encompasses most people. At the very least, a strong dislike.
hate, make a few million, retire.
Hate so I can provide for my family until I make an amazing amount of money to just live off of
Billions, no question. Millions of people do jobs they hate for pitiful wages, so getting billions is amazing. Make up for it with awesome houses, vacations, etc.
Billions. With billions I could spend the rest of my life doing things I love and not worry about making money.
Make enough to get by please.
Im tired of doing something I hate and I only work on weekends. My wife loves her job and has doubled her salary this year. We’re comfortable.
So I would love the opportunity to work full time doing something I love especially since I would make double than what I’m making now.
I would do something I hate long enough to make a a billion and then quit and do what I love.
I already do something I hate for a lot less than a billion. So I'll do something I hate for another year or two and call it quits.
Do something I hate. I only gotta work for a short time if I'm making billions.
I do the job I hate because I’m assuming I only have to be there 40 hours a week maybe even less. Your prompt was extremely vague and lazy so that leaves us massive amounts of wiggle room, I could go to the job I hate and barely do anything.
Like a boring office job or am I working for an insurance company?
Hate. Do It for sometime, and then quit It. Simple.
I guess it would depend on why I hate it, and, as others have alluded to, the minimum amount of time I could do it before retiring comfortably.
If it isn't contrary to my values (IE I'm not, like, facilitating a human trafficking ring or something) and I can get out in a reasonably short amount of time (2 years or less), then I'd suck it up and do the hated thing.
Pretty sure something you hate is by definition something explicitly against your values. You'd be human trafficking or whatever else specifically would harm you mentally. I don't think people are very imaginative about what they'd actually hate. I'd hate stuff like drowning puppies and burning babies. There's a large amount of particularly degrading positions I'd just heavily dislike rather than hate that I think folks are confusing in their answers here.
No, I can think of things I would hate doing for a living that are value neutral or even a bit aligned with my values. Sorting and disposing of trash at a landfill, for example.
I would probably heavily dislike doing that, but that's why I'm stressing the difference so heavily. I wouldn't hate sorting trash, I'd hate biting babies, or raping animals or something that's genuinely against my morality. I'd heavily dislike doing chores but I'd hate committing crimes against humanity. The words used in the question are just too strong to pull weaker definitions out of.
Well, we're different people. Morally repugnant as biting babies might be, it would at least be more entertaining and less exerting than trash duty, and I could actually have some human interaction before I get down to chomping. Maybe give the baby a nice tickle and a raspberry and cover its shoulder in honey before I bite down.
Not really sure what that says about me as a person.
You said that you hate being bored or overworked more than you hate the idea of dismembering babies with your teeth. If I felt that way I'd probably do something to reevaluate how I think about things but if that's what makes us different I'm fine with that.
Well I’m already doing something I hate and barely making enough to get by. So the 2nd option 😐
Life is too short to do something you hate. Enjoy your life and do things that you will never be stressed about
Hate for billions Alex
Billions obviously, because a fraction of a billion $ = instant luxurious retirement.
Yeah but you can't undo what you did to get it.
Billions for a crap job for awhile, and then quit to do what I love because earning money becomes moot.
Love and enough.
I could do a year of just about anything for a billion dollars
Sokka-Haiku by Hmccormack:
I could do a year
Of just about anything
For a billion dollars
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
Depends… what level hate we talking? Is it…
- Argh I don’t wanna get up let me sleep I hate it there.
Or
- im really really screwed aren’t I? God for sure is gonna banish my soul to the circle only reserved for the…. I can’t even write the type of things that belong in that circle.
So if it’s 1- I’ll just discipline myself and suffer a bit.
2- No never in a non-nillion years. No worth it.
1st doesn't really fit the definition. I feel like the wording of the question implies the 2nd, but the answers are not reflective of that. I read it as earn billions developing severe PTSD or suddenly start a cool unicorn job that pays enough to live and is pleasant. Most everyone else seems to answer like hate is just something a little annoying.
Ah! Well ok then. Sign me up for the annoying bit. Future me will just have to deal.
Edit: I’m confused now as I read what you wrote again. No what forget it. Give me the cushy job. Im barely getting by now. To enjoy my life and time …that’ priceless.
I'd be glad to do something I love as long as I make enough to get by. That would be lovely.
Hate and then quit after my first billion dollars
Love, my morals are too tight. I only hate things that are genuine crimes against humanity. Anything I'd hate to do would look pretty grossly antisocial and the stain on my soul isn't worth even the difficult to fathom amount of a billion dollars. Plus doing something I love for enough to get by suddenly becomes an option in my world. I don't currently love doing anything I could earn a living off of so that's fantastic.
Hate…..
Give me my billion
Thing I hate for billions of dollars. That's a no brainer
Do something I hate. There’re few things worse feeling than starting to hate the thing you love
I don’t need a lot of money. Already pretty skilled to build what I need or want instead of outright buying it.
I’d do a job I love.
Money schmoney. Quality time is far more valuable.
I would rather be somewhere in the middle. Enough to be comfortable at a job I don't hate
Do something I love
I want to be a teacher, so the first option was already expected for me.
I'll take making billions.
What if you couldn't quit or be fired? You could either do what you love but only make enough to get by, or you absolutely hate it but make millions - either way you've gotta put in your 40 hours per week and work until a normal retirement age.
What's the timeframe? Traditionally if we say you "make" say $50,000 working we mean a year. 2080 hours of work. If we say billions it has to ergo be at least 2 billion. So if my assumption is a minimum of 2 billion for 2080 hours of work, that's a pay rate of $961,538.46 an hour.
Earlier this month I had a 3 hour eye appointment that resulted in me having an allergic reaction to a die that made me pass out, break out in a cold sweat all over my body and vomit, followed by an injection directly into my eyeball. I "hated" every second of it. And I need to have multiple future injections. I'm paying to do this. So that I can improve my vision and do the things I enjoy.
I'm also recently debt free, looking at my finances and saying that some time in the next 6 years, my wife and I can retire. Once we do that, our time is ours to do what we enjoy. I figure if a million tax free dropped in our laps, we could bridge ourselves to the age where we could pull money out of my 401k, her pension and social security without any hit to our standard of living. Right now we make enough that we don't have to worry about it. If we want to buy something, we buy it. If we want to eat out, we eat out. If we want to go on vacation, we go on vacation. We don't live extravagantly and don't want to, but we live well. What we don't have is unlimited time.
We don't "hate" our jobs, at least I don't. So let's say I go into work tomorrow, but instead of doing what I normally do, I have to do something I hate, but instead of making what I make, I make $960k/hour. At noon I quit, go home and have probably about 2.5m after tax, 2 1/2 times what I need to live the rest of my life on my terms. Which even if my wife and I ended up having different ideas of what the retired life should be, we could amicably part ways and each live life on our own terms
I'd do what I hate for a morning so I could do what I love til I die. One could say well, if I'm getting by doing what I love anyway, isn't it six of one? But then I'm just getting by. I don't love just getting by. Both ways I always get to do what I love, but a morning of suffering which can't be worse than certain mornings I've had (hell, I once had a job paying a third of what I make now where I'd get screamed at literally for hours on end for not doing trivial things the way the boss wanted them done, and I did that for over a year), is worth being able to thrive and do what I love.
Hate, please. I'll retire next year and spend the rest of my life doing what I love.
Billions. And quit as soon as I'm comfortable. Maybe even after my first check.
If I made billions of dollars, I obviously wouldn’t have to do it for long
Hate. Do it for 1 year, have billions of dollars, quit, live of interest.