www.howlforwildlife.org/stoptheinsanity
WDFW Commission is out of line. Sign the petition please.
Something keeps bothering me about this petition. This group doesn't even seem like they're based in Washington State. They're advocating in Canada and South Australia? Who are these people? Like seriously, names of the organizers would be great. When you go to their website and look for their "Pack Leaders" you get redirected to membership plans and signups.
Howl for wildlife is a non profit that helps spread awareness. Some times we have to take information presented to us. Then do our own research and evaluation. If you don’t agree with it move on.
"Don't look up"
Charles is based in California, but he built a tool that is useful world wide.
Anti-hunting groups are world wide. Why shouldn't pro-hunter groups be?
Charles who?
Whitwam? something like that.
At a certain point, you're going to either believe me that it's just a guy who advocates for hunting, or do your own research.
You do know grassroot movements are political groups made up of locals to tackle local issues.
Then when I look up their* organization through Californias SOS or OAG they have non registered status or are missing statements of info. I may be a bit ignorant on the topic, but this info seems suspect. I think this is their registration# 4775041 if anyone better educated than me wants to dig.
Climate change is happening.
We recognize that humankind is in the midst of a biodiversity extinction crisis and must act now while we still have the building blocks for success
That's what you're fighting against? Nah, I ain't signing that tantrum petition. Your hobby isn't that important to even risk further damage when climate change is accelerating it. Less guns in nature is a pleasant side effect from this too.
I like the statement that if climate change was real. Banks would stop loaning money on beach front property 😂 😆. This ball of matter has been going through climate changes before humans starting polluting the whole thing.
Can you paraphrase for us that tiktok?
No I feel you should have to at the least investigate one simple thing on your own today. Then make a educated opinion of your own.
And while your at it. Ask why private jets that burn 40,000 gallons of fuel are ok. But my gas lawn mower is killing our climate.
Who's taken your gas mower away?
Just read through the petition, read the new policy. If you agree or disagree. Cool move on
Soo you won't summarize a tiktok you created and posted, want to complain about private jets and lawn mowers. Then you tell people you don't agree with to "just accept what's presented" & move on? You seem afraid of something, just can't quite put my finger on it.
Well let’s unpack this. For one I didn’t create the tik tok. Still amazed I have to explain that one. Two, you stated this with climate change. Problem with that is look at the bigger picture. Third yes I am moving on. Try to have a great weekend. Again do your own research and investigate things that are important to you. Then get involved.
"We aren’t going to turn our lands into parks. That’s not what the intention is of this. Maybe it is, maybe I just don’t know."
^when one of the commissioners is quoted as saying that about the policy.... that's a problem.
also: think yellowstone park. you're not going to be able to ride your bike in said parks anymore if I can't hunt them.
Because cyclists and hunters have exactly the same impact on wildlife, right?
I'm not going to argue with you that climate change is real or will affect hunting seasons. Show me the data and I'll be very understanding. Let's use data to drive wildlife management and climate discussions. Not emotions.
Show you what data? Why don't you show us the data that shows the environment can withstand the extra pressure.
If you want to call out emotion, let's see what you have to say with respect to this commenter.
As far as I can tell it is people being upset that they are no longer allowing for spring bear hunts and then projecting that into a fear that they will cancel other hunting seasons.
I don't need to ride my bike in Yellowstone or any national Park. There are plenty of other options.
People get involved due to emotion. There's no denying that. I've learned a ton since I have. But I'm also not making emotion driven decisions when I'm put in place to do science-based management.
This does largely stem from the spring bear issue. That's no secret.
WDFW's own biologists showed how the spring bear issue wasn't orphaning cubs or having a net impact on the population, but the commission cancelled it anyway due to social pressure from a very small minority of people who strongly opposed the season. It was strongly supported by another small minority, and frankly most of the rest of Washington didn't even know bears are really even hunted.
Hunting doesn't have population level impacts most of the time. And when it does, the season is understandably adjusted. Deer seasons in many western states have been increased in recent years, because management has allowed it.
And in fact, seasons for turkey have been adjusted down in the southern part of the country as the population changes. People aren't happy, but they get it.
I'm obviously not asking you for the data, anymore than I can show you my findings, from my own experimental data, but, more suggesting that making management adjustments should be made based on science and data rather than feelings. That's all we're asking for.
Anyway, I appreciate the good-faith discourse. Happy Friday
Hunting doesn't have population level impacts most of the time.
It seems the powers that be disagree with that little detail of yours. Look, you're probably a good guy heavily invested in a particular hobby that feels threatened. As a bicycle commuter, welcome to the club. I got nothin else for yah.
At least we agree on one thing, lol. One day I'll take up something that doesn't have detractors. But most of those aren't very interesting or fun. :)
I’m out of the loop - what’s the bill entail?
Starting with the removal of the spring bear season, the commission has shown itself to be animal rights activists instead on conservationists. They are intent on removing hunting seasons, with all predator seasons and elk seasons up for discussion already.
This proposed policy has language that is very preservation and not conservation. It's would lead to less hunting and fishing opportunities overall.
PETITION FOR THE WASHINGTON STATE FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION TO IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW THE PROPOSED CONSERVATION POLICY.
Washington State wildlife are resources, as clearly stated in RCW 77.04.012, the department and commission mandate, as well as many other Washington State laws and rules. The commission cannot declare them beneficiaries, contrary to existing law, simply by adopting a policy. Further, the commission cannot remove management, contrary to existing statute, simply by adopting policy.
Whereas the policy development process has been non-transparent and non-inclusive;
Whereas Washington law finds wildlife are resources, not beneficiaries;
Whereas the department and commission are directed to preserve, protect, perpetuate, and manage fish and wildlife;
Whereas sportsmen and their organizations have made and continue to make some of the state's greatest gains for wildlife;
Whereas the department has an existing conservation policy already in place;
Whereas many terms in the draft document are vague with no relation to wildlife conservation and management;
Whereas the definition of conservation in the draft has no relation to standard definitions of effective and proven wildlife conservation;
Whereas the policy calls for authorities outside the jurisdiction of the department of fish and wildlife;
Whereas conservation is a science-informed social process so delineating a conservation policy that excludes wildlife stakeholders can only harm conservation; and,
Whereas there is no evidence that the policy development effort consisted of consultation with official entities, such as the National Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, and most important, co-manager tribes, that share wildlife conservation responsibilities, nor consulted any conservation partner outdoor/sporting entities.
We, the undersigned, DEMAND the Washington State Fish & Wildlife Commission withdraw the proposed conservation policy and cease further efforts to adopt a conservation policy unless there is a broadly engaged policy development effort.
The reality is that this progressive party is involved in a religion
That religion worships Mother Earth
Mother Earth will usher in the new Utopia
One where there is no distinctions between people and we don’t own anything- but we are happy
Knowing that the bears and trees are safe!
And we will be sustainably eliminated- as the cockroaches we are for the betterment of the Mother
Amen
And although these ideas are not new
The environmental dictates are
Understand that you are the carbon they want to reduce in order to have some sort of commie society that elevates the maternal Earth to her rightful place
God is dead - but Mother is all around you
Petition signed. Thank you!
You want us to sign an angry petition opposing the draft policy, but you don't bother giving us a link to that policy. So, you expect us to sign blindly.
And you're angry that the policy describes our state's wildlife as "beneficiaries" rather than "resources". I have no problem with properly managed hunting, but I really don't like the mindset that sees wildlife as nothing more than a "resource" to be exploited.
So no, I'm not gonna sign on to your angry tirade.