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Protest all you want but please don’t do it at our graduation, thank you.
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Don’t let it get on the curtains
I’d wager op does get to walk, but I want a side bet on OP trips on the stage
You think they gaf lmao
Exactly. They will. They don’t care about anything other than showing how righteous they are . It’s all performative
What do you define as a non performative protest?
This particular critique is always so odd to me. Protests are by definition performances.
These protests are 99% people with no real life experience and zero understanding of the history of the Middle East who have decided that they know better than everyone else and have a right to do whatever they want no matter how it affects other people. They're performative in the sense that most participating in them don't actually care about any of the people involved and are only doing it because it's the current popular thing. People are shouting "intifada" with zero awareness of what the word actually means, and promoting race science theories that Jews are Europeans who faked their own history to steal land. It's a serious problem.
In 20 years you will pretend you were supportive of them just like every liberal did with the Vietnam protests.
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I guarantee it, RemindMe! 20 years
I hope I’m wrong, but I honestly think that in 20 years time we will be overwhelmed by the effects of climate change. I don’t think we’ll have the internal resources to fight over much more than survival. Perhaps here in the states we won’t be as affected yet (depending on the area), but we won’t escape it forever.
Much of the Middle East, Asia, and Africa will have been dealing with waves of wet bulb temperatures, which are very deadly. Not to mention the flash flooding (parts of Brazil have legit been wiped off the map in the last month) and droughts that are predicted. Smaller populations have already been made into climate refugees, but those number will surely surge as things ramp up.
This is a big boatload of assumptions which is also immaterial to the question at hand, which is: are protests by their nature performative?
I don't really care if they are performative or not. I am sure MLK Jr. and his marches were called all kinds of names too. To a point, understanding the history of such things is important, but that history existed in small batches at that time, and we, in the future of those days, are overwhelmingly privileged in having access and knowledge of that history as it came about.
At the end of the day, do we have to know a bunch of history to say the holocaust was one of humanity's worst? Or can we only come to that conclusion by k owing a good chunk of its history?
Don’t forget the history of individuals coming together as a group to create change. It’s scary how people have been convinced that this is not true
I think comparing MLK to a bunch of masked college kids chanting “intifada” is pretty rich, dude.
It is analogous. History has shown us that not every single MLK march/boycott were peaceful or completely peaceful. There were bus boycotts and jail overflow campaigns to name a few civil disobedience that took more actions actions rather than words. These things caused a crippling of local businesses and city functions. So maybe you are right I shouldn't compared protests chanting intifada over actions.
I think, but I could be wrong, they’re protesting because of the mass death and hundreds of documented war crimes, dead children, the tortured prisoners, the mothers screaming for their dead children, refugee camps being bombed, kids being starved, journalists and doctors being killed.
I don’t think it’s like a nuanced historical argument, I don’t think they’re saying the Jews need to go, and I don’t think you have any idea what you’re talking about. Because even if there was a history where some of Palestinians were demon possessed, I still don’t understand how that would justify the intentional and declared attempt of collective punishment.
And then you look at the actual history and learn about settler violence. So yeah, the whole thing is so depraved and deeply evil.
My guy Palestinian children are being mulched by the minute by US sponsored bombs and artillery…
Shhh don’t ruin his special day!
If the protestors understood the situation they’d be protesting in opposition of Hamas, instead of for them
Absolute braindead take…
Ya dude suporting Hamas is the thinking man’s choice eh. Those are some great people right
They’re not supporting Hamas…that’s your conflation
You sound like a child throwing a tantrum. When people protested the Iraq war, they were met with similar comments: “oh so you support terrorism”, and we all know how twisted that war was.
Besides, Hamas is not ISIS, they have a completely different mode of operation. I’m not saying they didn’t commit war crimes, cause I literally have no idea, but they function as a guerilla force, which is something we DO know.
You’re falling prey to the Either/Or fallacy.
I think people are just hoping that American college students aren’t knowingly protesting in suport of genocidal terrorists who strip rights from women and lgbt people, and want to wipe out Israel and the United States, the country they are protesting from. It’s a sad state
People are protesting genocide by Israel, a terrorist government hellbent on eliminating the Palestinian people. The minister of national security is literally calling for ethnic cleansing in Gaza right now.
I see a lot of words here and none of them say anything about the tens of thousands of people killed who are continually being killed. People who think protests are the problem are the actual problem.
“Decided they know better than everyone else” is actually your position, ironically. And the position of the United States. Most of the planet has a pretty clear understanding of the situation hence the USA’s constant unilateral vetoes at the UN. It’s a nice coincidence that your position of knowing better than everyone else aligns perfectly with US interests in the region.
They should be joining Israelis in protest to try to get Netanyahu out, not alienating them by chanting about killing them and spreading hate.
Their problem isn't with Netanyahu, their problem is with Israel's existence. The Israelis protesting Netanyahu are protesting because they think Netanyahu is bad for Israel. These protestors are protesting because they want to destroy Israel. Not really much common ground.
There are chants about Netanyahu at the protest
You are making so many assumptions that it's impossible to take you seriously.
And you know this how?
These are the "just comply folks" who actually have no moral compass and are profusely selfish.
Not sure but “performative” has been improperly used to discredit certain people’s intentions. Obviously there will be some people who are purely performative but to make a claim that the majority of the group are, is just trying to diminish the integrity of those taking part. I had a teacher do the same
It’s performative because the people who are suddenly so vocal about the situation in the Middle East only direct their anger toward Israel, not to any of Palestine’s other neighbors. They’re also nowhere to be found regarding the hundreds of thousands who have been slaughtered in Syria, Yemen, etc. Moreover, they call for a ceasefire and make bogus claims of ‘genocide’ but fail to observe that on October 6, there was a ceasefire. So, yes, perfectly reasonable for someone to determine that the protests are performative.
This is not what makes the protest performative. You’re making a shit ton of assumptions just because they’re students. Just ignore the protestors, move on with your life.
Hey you’re entitled to your opinion, regardless of whether it’s supported by objective facts or not. I agree the protesters should be ignored. Have a great day!
I think the "performative" criticism is essentially claiming that the majority of the individuals who are participating in these protests are not *primarily* doing so because of their intense ties to Palestinians, but instead see it as an channel for them to demonstrate a broader set of beliefs. The vast majority have any strong relationships to Palestinians or know any. They have never been to the region. They have no skin in the game, but they see these protests as an outlet to demonstrate how strongly they believe in their political views.
Most protests that arent criticized as performative when they are being done by those with direct ties to the impact they are protesting. Vietnam was college students who were at risk of being drafted, Women's right marches are LARGELY by women who dont want their rights infringed, black lives matter protests were MOSTLY black people participating, etc.
People can care about things that dont directly impact them, but when you see very fringe political groups heavily involved, who dont actually have direct ties to what they are protesting, it does cast doubt on the primary motivation of the people involved.
Volunteering on the frontlines
where they dont look cozy af eating free food and expecting to get a pass for not showing up to class.. they're not risking anything that matters to them. theyre only effing over people who actually care.
Actually they’re risking more than you ever probably will to stand up against a US funded massacre of innocent civilians in the name of a “war against terrorism” lol. Students have gotten suspended, expelled, are being charged with real crimes for exercising their first amendment rights while violent alt right conservatives and Zionists attack them and police tear gas and pepper spray them. It seems to me that you don’t care about genocide, our humanity. Get off Reddit and find your humanity
vandalism and blocking access to student resources isnt part of the first amendment.
lol. You’ve lost the plot. There is no massacre of innocent civilians. This is an urban war. It is very tragic that many civilians are losing their lives, but the objective reality is that this is the lowest rate of civilian death in urban warfare in history. This very much demonstrates that accusations of genocide and “massacre of innocent civilians” are empty and devoid of context.
Indirect civilian casualties by careless bombing is a massacre.
Agreed, less proportion of Gazans died in bombing than civilians died in Berlin during the battle of Berlin. Did the Russians “genocide” 120,000 german civilians, no, it was an urban combat bombing campaign. It’s war. It’s ugly and rotten. But it’s war, not genocide.
Did they also strategically displace them and then bomb every single place they forced them to go!m? Did Russians destroy and block aid to the civilians of Berlin? Did they actively move into the homes of their they didn’t destroy right in front of their faces? Did they torture them and put them into camps? Did they plan a new settlement in Berlin long before they started the war?
Some of what you’re claiming is flat out not true.
Like? I’ve literally seen it happen in swaths of videos from people in Gaza.
What do you belive they should do to make it non performative
Stop creating disruptions for people who can’t change the situation and focus on the people who can, and abandon those extremist/ignorant phrases and ideologies that alienate people from the movement (e.g. “from the river to the sea”, chanting for the intifada, protesting alongside anti-semites).
Most of these have absolutely nothing to do with being "performative", it just sounds like you disagree with the protests. Additionally they are focusing on what they can to create change: the UC system can divest from Israel, and they as students can influence the policies of their university. Also "protesting alongside anti-semites" is just BS, especially when we have documented evidence that pro-Israeli counterprotesters at places like UCLA included anti-semites along with a UC Santa Cruz Alum. CNN also identified a guy called Narek Palyan who posted a bunch of antisemitic shit.
Bus boycot in Mississippi. They selected a particular target for a specific policy change that was directly relevant to the community and lives of people involved. Performative. We protested highly debatable concepts without concrete realistic goals. For instance the deconstruction of a foreign nuclear armed nation of which we have no control over.
I’m in the emergency medical field and know Zionists who are volunteering to help the Palestinian people on the front lines for medical care. Idc about protests on some college campus. Go out and do the work and actually help.
Seriously. Protest doesn't do a damn thing.
Literally all of US Social Justice History begs to differ
One that impacts guilty parties rather than bystanders (eg students with no say in how their college invests)
Let’s play a fun game and try to brainstorm a protest that was effective and also disrupted 0 people who weren’t immediately “guilty”
Non-performative doesn’t necessarily mean effective, I think performativity is more about intent.
But most civil rights protests in the south were directly aimed at people who actively participated in Jim Crow. These campus protests are like if someone in 1965 went to Maine and protested in a McDonalds because they had franchises open in the south.
They’re not being noticed by people making decisions (why aren’t they protesting at the schools’ admin buildings or investment offices?) and the people making decisions are only tangentially involved with Israel, let alone the IDF at all
Oh yeah my point wasn’t that non performative meant effective - my point was that it is impossible to be totally un disruptive and also be effective. The civil rights protests you describe were absolutely 100% of the time perceived as disruptive to / by the general public.
They're... not being noticed? Aren't we discussing them right now? Isn't this thread about having them be noticed less because some poor fellow who isn't being bombed doesn't want his privilege interrupted?
Are we decision makers?
Moving the goalposts? Do you think administration has not noticed them? It's a mechanism to start a conversation about what we believe our values to be. Not protesting is certainly not going to change any minds.
… yes that’s what a protest is.
I get that you're angry, but let's be real here. It is both substantive and performative.
You can't control what other people do, but you do have some control over how you react. You accomplished those things over the course of 4 years, not at the ceremony.
Don't let other people diminish your work just by being loud or disruptive. There will always be loud and disruptive people. Letting them ruin 4 years by disrupting a ceremony for a few minutes would be kind of silly
I like this. You are right I may have my regrets and grievances but if I didn't come here to do what I did then I would be missing out on some many connections and experiences. I will always hate the administration of this school and no one can change my mind but that was a good ass response.
Now that's some wisdom. God bless ❤️
During a Brown University commencement speech, there was a protest against the war in Vietnam. 2/3 of the student body turned their back when Henry Kissinger spoke at the graduation.
There are ways to protest, and even if it’s messy, you’ll let it go eventually. Good odds are it’s gonna happen, but we can look at this as a part of history if you wanna look at the bright side.
The people mad about a potential protest during their commencement don’t even know what kind of monster Kissinger was…devils right hand fucking man
Henry Kissinger can’t make the JRL/C9 commencement ceremony this year unfortunately; he’s feeling under the weather.
I hope your graduation ceremony won't be ruined but if it is, hopefully in 10 years you will have accomplished more than just graduating from high school and university and can celebrate bigger achievements.
I've had 4 graduation ceremonies and only attended high school graduation. I was upset about missing my undergrad because it was such a huge achievement at the time but over a decade later I've moved on to much more interesting, bigger, and better things.
I’ve never liked ceremonies myself, but I know it will mean a lot to my family, particularly as a first-gen and I’m sure a lot of people feel the same way. And you’re right, hopefully there will be bigger achievements but for a lot of families this is a very significant milestone
Lol I graduated about 10 years ago, and the only thing I can tell you about my graduation is that I was sweating like crazy under that plastic garbage bag of a robe, wishing it were over. Hell, it woulda been kinda nice if some protesters came in and shut the whole thing down.
The notion that you'll remember your graduation 10 years from now is so depressing. I sure hope you don't.
I almost peed my pants because i drank to too much before hand 😭
The notion that you'll remember your graduation 10 years from now is so depressing. I sure hope you don't.
Speak for yourself, it's a fond memory of mine. Last time I saw classmates, family together, overall joy throughout the campus.
As long as they don't straight up cancel commencement, either out of caution or in the middle of the ceremony, Ill live. But if they do fucking cancel it... that would just be really sad for me and everyone else who's worked so hard over the years.
100%. The class of 24 is not to be fucked with. Please let these students have their day. They had no senior year of high school, no prom, no graduation, AND no freshman year of college. FFS just let them have a college graduation.
But Netanyahu has said he'll only stop the war if they ruin the graduation at UC Santa Cruz.
Doesn't even matter, nothing will even come from the prtests. Fucking rich kids think their opinion matters so much. Anyone with an iq over peanutbutter knows the war is bad. Anyone with an iq over a dish sponge knows a protest isn't doing a damn thing. Just making these kids feel like they're doing something... which they are, wasting time.
They don't care lol, the self righteousness of a social media activist is unbounded.
They will; so prepare. 🤷🏽♂️
Bro, of course they are going to, but you’ll be fine
They’re all about destruction. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Unfortunately majority of the protesters are OUTSIDERS so they don’t give a fck about those who they are ruining commencement for. It’s sad
This “protestors” are mostly not even students. They’re scumbags there to cause damage and whine. If they actually wanted to cause real change they would protest at place where people who are actually responsible for the atrocities in Gaza are at, they’d protest in front of the state assembly or congress but no, they gotta make sure people like you who’ve worked hard for years are miserable and hate their cause.
There are Pro-Palestinian seniors that will certainly be walking, it is their graduation as well.
I’m in the same situation, i swear if they prevent me from celebrating this achievement i will remove whoever’s in my way..
this badass is gonna walk across that stage in his dorky fuckin’ gown, or there’s gonna be hell to pay…
please do it at my graduation tho 🙏‼️‼️‼️
You'll b ok
The Pro-Pali game plan is to never allow Jews to be comfortable anywhere. They don’t want Jews to enjoy their graduation so I’d expect they would rather disrupt that event then miss an opportunity
If there were protests at my graduation at least it would be more memorable.
Also a graduating senior who didn’t have a high school graduation who is neutral on the whole commencement thing - isnt the achievement graduating, not walking?
Walking the stage is an important way to signify and celebrate the end of an academic journey. Some care about it, others don’t. OP has never gotten to properly experience this milestone, and rightfully wants to be able to celebrate their hard-earned achievements with their family.
Hopefully protesters recognize that and refrain from stealing a fellow student’s moment of recognition.
I guess I just don’t care as much about pageantry as other people.
So funny seeing people deride the protesters for performative action, when walking across a stage is literally a performance. They'll mail you your diploma if you don't walk.
This is the silliest thing in existence, sorry. People are being killed indiscriminately and OP's most concerned about not getting to walk across the stage for 5 seconds. If there were ever a time to criticize someone for entitlement or privilege, it'd be now.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with feeling entitled to your own graduation. What’s happening in the Middle East is a humanitarian crisis but there’s more effective ways of shining light on the situation that don’t include punishing people like OP who have nothing to do with the situation. Protest outside civil buildings, call your representatives — literally anything other than misplacing outrage.
It's not a punishment, though. I mean, that's a very sorry way of looking at any sort of protest... I mean, hell, were white people punished by no longer getting to sit on the front end of the bus during the Montgomery bus boycotts? Should Black people have protested in a way that didn't make poor whites late to their jobs because the busses were late or cancelled? Are all marches inherently bad because they punish average people trying to drive to work? Is it bad to boycott businesses because average Joe employees might get laid off? It's not a punishment if you have solidarity.
Calling representatives does very little in this day and age. Message spreads through the media, and a demonstration at commencement would certainly get media attention.
I don’t think the civil rights movement is an apt comparison in this case.
Even when Israel is committing acts of genocide, according to the world's experts on genocides?
Brain dead take. If you are comparing this nonsensical Middle East scrimmage that Palestine started to the civil rights movement, you should check your privilege.
Bus boycotts "punished" ordinary working class people who could not attend work. I'm sure some lost their jobs and struggled financially.
Commencement demonstrations "punish" graduate students by not letting them spend 20 seconds walking across a stage. They lose nothing essential.
Why is #1 okay but #2 isn't?
(My stance, obviously, is that both are justified and good.)
Protests are meant to be seen. Why do you think there aren’t protests in the middle of nowhere?
They need attention though..
If you ruin a person’s graduation it makes them want to support your cause though.
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I know, but that’s how it works apparently.
Also the most effective way to stop a war is to leave a bunch of trash on a college campus.
Protesting at the graduation is going to do more harm than good… anyone who is happy about the protest is already on your side anyway so it’s preaching to the choir. Then you are just pissing off the rest of the people and their families who are just wanting to enjoy the graduation and leaving them with a negative impression. Nobody is going to think “hey I better support Palestine because some protesters ruined my kid’s graduation.”
So overall you’re going to alienate people and lose more support than you gain.
The Hamas terrorist supporters don't care about you. They just want all Jews dead
The Israeli government is literally massacring Palestinians at the moment.
"massacring" by telling them where they will be bombing so the civilians can get out? Ok 🤡. Keep supporting the Islamic terrorists that want sharia law and all non Muslims to die
so blindfolding, handcuffing doctors and nurses right in the hospital for days and then shooting them in the head is not massacring civilians
Massacring by telling them they'll be bombing certain areas with short notice, and then bombing the escape routes while they're leaving.
30 minutes isn't short notice. It's not hard to get away from a small area in 30 minutes. Maybe tell Hamas to stop blocking the roads so civilians CANT leave so Hamas can claim Israel is bombing civilians. Maybe don't put your weapons and ammo underneath hospitals and schools to use innocent civilians as human shields. Maybe don't take innocent civilians as hostages, kill them, and then offer "not alive" hostages in peace deals
30 minutes is extremely short notice to pack up ur life and leave ?? stop trying to justify genocide
What victim blaming. Keep guzzling down that propaganda. It is a fact that Israel has been bombing escape routes and designated safe zones. Even Palestinians who follow directions get killed. It's not much different from the Nazis deceiving Jews during WWII. The actions of Hamas do not warrant the killing of innocent Palestinians
Yeah, like I said. Hamas is bad. Can you read? Hamas has genocidal intent. I'm not contesting that. That's the expert opinion.
The Israeli government is currently committing acts of genocide. The Israeli government also has genocidal intent. That's the expert opinion. Netanyahu compared Palestinians to the Amalekites, which God tells Jews to genocide in Samuel.
Lmfaooo
That’s right! Civilized protests for a civilized genocide 👍
Civilized protests…what a lib coded phrase
Thomas Friedman a scholar and NY Times journalist of the region who has covered the Middle East for over 40 years and has advocated peace vigorously during this time period points out three major compelling flaws with this season of campus protests: 1) "they are virtually all about stopping Israel’s shameful behavior in killing so many Palestinian civilians in its pursuit of Hamas fighters, while giving a free pass to Hamas’s shameful breaking of the cease-fire that existed on Oct. 7." 2) "Second, when people chant slogans like “liberate Palestine” and “from the river to the sea,” they are essentially calling for the erasure of the state of Israel, not a two-state solution. They are arguing that the Jewish people have no right to self-determination or self-defense." 3) "these protests have become part of the problem in that they ignore the view of many Palestinians in Gaza who detest Hamas’s autocracy. These Palestinians are enraged by precisely what these student demonstrations ignore: Hamas launched this war without permission from the Gazan population and without preparation for Gazans to protect themselves when Hamas knew that a brutal Israeli response would follow"
Agree or disagree? I think he makes some really good points. And this particular performance of protests have basically turned into a farce and an outright sham since is SO ONE SIDED and IGNORES SO MANY COMPLEX TRUTHS of the situation !!
Come fight me if any protestors are coming to ruin the commencement, idgaf
I hope you eventually realize how empathetic you sound. "Oh woe is me, my graduation day is being protested! I'm missing out on one of the most important days of my life because others think MY day isn't as important as a genocide. Let me have MY day thank you!"
There are incredibly vile things happening around the globe in full view of the public, and people are actively trying to call attention to it because we all feel lost and confused on how to fight a global super power. But hey, instead of using your voice to spread a positive and united message, here you are, posting online and complaining about PEOPLE PROTESTING AN ACTIVE GENOCIDE. For fucking shame.
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And yet the genocide is still happening. As we speak. And I will protest it until my last breath, and am even willing to give my life if it means I can help.
As for the 500 comments that disagree with me, I don't give a shit about apathetic and weak willed humans who only care about themselves. It's people like you that are to blame for the current state of this society. You should spend more time teaching yourself empathy for your fellow human. You'd be a lot better off for it.
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Shit, you gonna pay for me to kit up and to fly there? I'd take that chance in a fucking heartbeat. I don't care HOW I get there. But at least I'll have a better chance at accomplishing something. That's what people like you will never understand. That someone is willing to give their life for others, if it means things would be better. Because that's what life is about. Being better.
Take your small mind, and your small ideals, and aim for something bigger. This whole world needs help, and humans have the technology and the knowhow to do something about it. So WHY. ARENT. WE?
LMAOOO , protest all you want but pwetty pwease not when people are watching 👀. Get real that is the best time to spread a message 👍🏽
You think it will be someone in the crowds first time hearing about the conflict going on?? Lmao get real
You're right that it sucks to be in a cohort that has had commemorative events surrounding personal milestones disrupted by world events. And I sympathize with the frustration you feel.
However, context is everything, and you've made it through your university intact, along with your school's physical plant. The bigger context is that all of Gaza's institutions of higher learning have been destroyed and evacuated. The destruction of educational institutions is one of the main tactics used when the goal is destroy a civilization or a culture. You and your diploma and your alma mater will exist the day after graduation, no matter what.
Take a step back, think of what you have that others are being denied and are having destroyed, including the lives of those around them who would be there to celebrate if there were anything to celebrate.
You are lucky and have accomplished something. Embrace that, and look outside yourself. The world needs us all to look outside ourselves, and see, and take action against forces that want to destroy our capacity to defeat oppression and injustice. As important as graduation rituals are, they don't outweigh the grotesque annihilation the protestors are outraged by.
So if there are geopolitical conflicts going on that you're upset about (which will be 100% of your entire life because there has never been world peace ever), you have a right to disrupt any event you want, even if they're literally on the other side of the world and nobody at the event has anything to do with it? It sounds like you're just finding an excuse to be an asshole.
Here comes the virtue signaling
Join the protest to make it even more memorable 😎
Poor guy
I mean odds are people will just walk out or not go. Doesn’t affect you. There are people out there who will never get the chance at a college education now.
Glad i aint class of 2024😭 they dont care at all. Actually you having a special day makes them want to protest even more! Dont know what protesting on campus is supposed to do, government buildings would be much more efficient and impactful. Although its for the right cause, ruining a graduation is not going to make anyone join the cause! We need to be productive and impactful, not silly yelling at a huge graduation. We want to spread our message, not make people hate us for our opinions. Same ideology as blocking the bay bridge or golden gate, if it causes others inconvenience then we dont achieve our notion of spreading the word and joining forces. Instead it just pisses people off and brings negative connotation to all protests. Hopefully the way of protesting will change for the better.
I didn’t have a highschool graduation and I would happy if my peers were protesting while I was walking.
These people try to inflict maximum pain so that you give them what you want
Love when they chant for "settlers, settlers go back home" When these people are literally living on once native land in America. They're just as much settlers as Israeli people are except there are actually Jewish roots in Israel unlike white people in America if you wanna get technical.
Newsflash: they don’t care about you or Palestine or the children. The protest is not about the topic. It’s about them wanting to be heard. It’s always been about them. Notice how they don’t protests on the steps of congress or Washington DC because no one will watch, but they know if they protest at your graduation it’ll make the news.
10 months from now you won't give a shit about your graduation, let alone 10 years. Let them protest.
And what exactly is civilized protest, pray tell.
Did you not pay any attention in highschool history, because mlk was pretty famously razor tight on having protesters be as media trained and presentable as possible.
Only dumbass self aggrandizing social media activists think a protest necessitates being loud and obnoxious.
You mean minus the people getting ass whooped? Your definition of civilized protest is just ppl getting absolutely beaten the shit of them.
The entire point of a protest should be to get beat up or treated poorly, while maintaining your composure and acting civilized.
If you're protesting some entity, the best outcome of a protest is that entity overreacting and proving your point while you maintain a civilized composure.
Black civil rights activists knew they'd get beat up and spat on for doing a sit in at a whites only counter. They dressed in their Sunday best and remained reasonably calm, knowing full well they where going to be treated like shit by everyone.
That's the entire point, to show the barbarity of the system they where protesting. If they where obnoxious and violent and hateful during their sit in, people and the media would simply say they deserved the beatings and arrests.
Their point was only able to be made when they acted as a contrast to the system they where protesting.
Don't want to be inconvenienced during your time, but ok for others during theirs?
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I say everyone who isn't protesting flash their top and lower junks at the protestors as a sign of protesting their protest.
So become a sex offender, cool cool
Lets throw fireworks at them
"Protests are supposed to make you feel uncomfortable."
-AOC
AOC's eyebrows make me feel uncomfortable.
Join em loser
Don't allow people to ruin things for you. The accomplishment has been achieved. Walking across the stage is a formality.
What do you wager will happen