OMG I will use this phrase now as much as possible
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I am actually a little bit shocked about how sexist these guys can be :/
how are you shocked ? genuinely, no shade intended. just did you not know that in a lot of african cultures, women are expected to do the house chores ? (cooking, cleaning..). i was more shocked that most of the men have those basic life skills and didn’t mind doing it without being asked to
Totally agree and to add, I think a lot of cultures when you leave the US are still behind when it comes to gender roles/women’s rights. Caribbean culture, Hispanic, Italian, Muslim… etc.
Tbh I’d push it farther and say in the US people still play around with gender roles; some men will expect the woman to do the upkeep at home even if she’s also working. Gender roles will always be a thing unfortunately 🥹 But I gotta say watching the men cook/clean with confidence was lovely. So many American men haven’t even gotten that far.
i just think that in the US, it’s more passive. most men wont outright say “the women’s place is in the kitchen” but they’ll act like it. i don’t remember seeing men in the US version cleaning the whole house or cooking and i don’t assume that they did tbh
Yes that’s a perfect way to say it!? Men in America might not say it but they expect it. Otherwise it won’t get done. I’ve had to physically train my partner on what to help me with so we are both doing our part. He was not accustomed to it prior to me.
I’d say America is starting to come around but there will always be so much nuance with gender roles.
I got you, but I truly am. I really try to keep an open minded about the sort of things we can listen about non-occidental cultures. I mean, there's a lot orientalism in certain comments and I don't like reproducing that at all, so I tend to give a chance. I come myself from a third world context, and I'm currently living in Europa, so I would really not like hearing certain things (of course if it's against misogyny/racism/human rights, I'd would totally agree).
i think expecting women to do house chores is not exclusive to african cultures, it definitely exists in the west too. i just think that african people are more adamant on gender roles when it comes to the household like they’ll say it loud and clear and don’t care about being misogynistic because to them, it’s not really, it’s just how things are. that’s why i was so pleasantly surprised to see men doing house chores on their own initiative (except genesis bc isaac would still do them since khanya wouldn’t) things that we didn’t really see men doing in the french or american version
YES! totally agree with every word. I guess I didn't express myself well, and that's it that shocks me. But not just the men, I'm really not into how girls (Khanya, for ex) are "supportive" (?) of this gender role and I'm not seeing a girl that stands up and say "girl actually this is a little messed up, nah?". I mean, I know it's not really a unanimity among girls that splitting the bills (like for groceries) should be normal if both could help at home and there's not a great difference between salaries, etc. I find great when guys want to pay things or gifts, etc but I don't find disgusting when they don't find it a must and don't want to play this role, you know?
It’s a very first world mindset. I’m from South America and people in the north see our culture as we are behind and the roles aren’t equal and things like that. But What I usually say to people is, in my country people are starving to death, they can kill you for a smartphone or shoes on the streets and there’s no law. So yeah maybe we don’t have laws about equal rights and lgbt+ because people are literally surviving against all Odds.
So I see these cultures with the same eye I see mine, people aren’t educated enough about these subjects because most people have to deal with really really big issues (like no having food, water, crime, extreme proverty) and trying to survive .
Brasil também? 😄