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So if these are turkey bags then Iâm pretty sure they are made out of food grade cellophane which is not a petroleum product
I hope someday soon we swap all plastic for cellophane
Food grade silicone is probably the safest polymer. We also make edible utensils and drinkware which don't damage your testicles.
Corporations want to make money and fear change. Until we hold them accountable, our planet will continue to collapse at an exponential rate.
Hold up, what beverage fucks with my bits and bobs?!
That part we don't know yet because it's unknown how the microplastics make it to the testicle
I hope we find out soon. Thatâs where I store my pee!
Lol
Fuel is stored in the balls
They got G Fuel in there too?
Gonad Fuel
Is this a r/GameGrumps reference? If so, thank you đ
That's why squirt is pee. Girls ain't usually got any balls to store their pee in, so they squirt and that's pee.
We do know what type of plastic was found in that study and it was PVC. So most plumbing in most places.
Isn't science fun!?!
I think theyâre talking about the forks spoons and cups rather than the actual beverage, but I to would also like to know which mess with them.
Itâs the consumerâs fault for using a straw though /s. Thereâs all sorts of pressure on the consumer to change habits but none (that I see) on the corporations to change theirs.
That time period where people were so violently against straws was so awful for disabled people like myself. Complete bans on plastic straws didnât account for people who actually need single use materials due to disability. They didnât really ever take our needs and what we try to add to the conversation into account, and some people actively tried to push back against us and what we said. I remember a whole lot of people suddenly getting into trying to like expose disabled people for supposedly not being disabled or not being âas disabledâas ableds thought they were. So much eco-ableism thrown at us all for something that had a very tiny impact compared to, say, corporations actually being forced to change their policies and practices. Disability rights donât have to stand at odds with other rights, especially environmental, but until I see actual steps being taken to listen to us and actually take what we say into account, Iâm wary of movements like the plastic straw movement.
"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos."
We also make edible utensils and drinkware which don't damage your testicles.
Lol
They already use it to wrap up the parker house rolls.
Whatâs a Parker house roll?
These Parker House rolls, they belong to my Ma.
It's those oversized rolls of TP the Parker household uses. Something about so much of it wasted due to sticking to their kid Peter's hands.
I've no idea who the Parker household is, but thanks, at least I now know it's TP they were talking about :-)
It's not a good vapor barrier so it won't replace plastics for a lot of applications.
After a brief visit on Wikipedia, it states that nitrocellulose was invented and used as a coating on cellophane to vaporproof it. So the issue has been solved already.
Guncotton is flamable, though I'm sure that's somewhat mitigated by the application process, since it's dissolved into sort of a lacquer. However, treated cellulose is still a poor moisture barrier relative to something like a coextrusion of Nylon and EVOH.
it's not a good vapor barrier yet, I trust that's something that can be solved
The shirt says Phillipines, which can be a decent indicator
No, thats definitely Philippines
Ya they are not, those are cheapest plastic bags you can buy.
Yeah but the way cellophane is manufactured isnât very environmental friendly either
Yeah it's totally safe. Chefs do it.
OP could've done a quick google search before posting to find out that PVDC plastics (Saran wrap and plastic baggies) can be heated to over 250 degrees Fahrenheit . As counter intuitive as it may seem, you can put your Saran wrap in the oven and in the microwave.
Source : Google
Source 2: Better source.)
But it's only if it doesn't come in contact with your food and sous vide is much lower temperature than boiling soup. Either way you can't avoid plastic contamination no matter how much you try especially if you eat a lot of seafood.
A chef is a guy that cooks. What about it?
I had a bag of Pepsi when I was in Thailand. With a straw in it, because why not?
It was the strangest, most insane way to have a beverage.
It's less plastic than traditional containers.
It's not about reducing plastic usage, it's about consumption of plastic.
Not sure what you mean. Less plastic per container means less plastic consumed, no?
Literally consuming it, as in eating micro plastics that have leached out into the food during cooking.
Oh my bad. That's not how we use consumption in industry. That's ingestion.
Can't speak for SEA but we've mostly eliminated BPA from anything used in food storage or manufacturing. It's almost all PP or PE or PET. Nylon is a petroleum derivative but it's also BPA free.
When people talk about health hazards from microplastics, thatâs completely unrelated with BPA. Not sure what your point is.
When people talk about health hazards from microplastics, thatâs completely unrelated with BPA. Not sure what your point is.
Itâs about the plastic leaching into the food
That's ingestion, not consumption, as far as the industry is concerned.
I sense you're not overly familiar with food processing and manufacturing.
The original comment wasnât mine
Consumption can also mean âthe eating, drinking, or ingesting of somethingâ
You misunderstood me. Everyone knows the literal definition of the word. But as a consumer surely you don't believe that pertains strictly to things you eat. That's a lay term.
By using the term that way, I feel safe assuming you're not familiar with the industry for which you're speaking.
I never said it couldnât be used the other way, but thatâs the way we are using it in this situation. Also neither is the âliteralâ definition, they are both correct.
they are both correct.
Not in this context.
Did you even read the article? It said at low temperatures. Boiling water isnât at a low temperature.
Also in big bold letters says not to cook food with plastic touching... those bags are definately touching the food lol
Yh lol
The highest temp that water ever reaches is itâs boiling point. Depending on your elevation, thatâs about 212 f. Far lower than temps listed in the article as unsafe.
The article also stated that in most cases the plastic wrap doesnât actually touch the food
Thank you sir. đŻ
Boiling is considered low you idiot. Water boils at 100 celcius and PVDC are okay up until 170 celcius.
(High temp would be deepfrying you goofball)
The article also stated the plastic wrap shouldnât be touching the food
It's always SEA isn't it?
Eh not limited to only SEA , it's still widely a thing in China and Taiwan too.
There are kinds of plastic that you can use with hot soups and hot drinks
These are not the plastics they use
How did you know? Btw PP plastic is safe for human tho
Source, I've been served hot soup in a trash bag with rubber bands... Just a quick eddit 1, 5, and 7 are just as dangerous once heated. The problem is the legislation has not caught up with the technology
Hey it's your life, do whatever you want
I just hate misinformation and people who spew supposed "facts" with no source.
Those bags are LDPE, a thermoplastic, and will start leeching chemicals at around 60c.
Most plastics have compounds that resemble human hormones. And they are called endocrine disrupters, because they mess with your bodys hormone system. Heating plastic is a great way to release those as the plastic breaks down.
confirmed by harvard to be causative of obesity, too.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/is-plastic-a-threat-to-your-health
No they won't you goofball. Provide a source you liar.
Omfg can you stop calling people goofballs? Itâs quite annoying.
Why are you still here? Move on bud.
Why wouldnât I still be here?
How do you post so much but have so little karma?
It's like you have no life but you don't have the karma to show for it.
All plastics have been shown to leech chemicals. There is nothing safe about keeping food in a petroleum product. Especially heating it
https://www.breastcancer.org/risk/risk-factors/exposure-to-chemicals-in-plastic
That's misinformation
I love the 18 idiots downvoted you. You are correct sir. Saran wrap is completely safe to heat up. âď¸
That's Marco plastic right there
Polo plastic!
Plastic out of water! Get off the ladder!
"Get back in the ocean, you! You've got fish to strangle!"
Holy fuck, you just solved pollution buddy, we just need to find a plastic that is really bad at Marco Polo and put it in the middle of the oceans to play with the other plastics.
Please donât. Trash Island is the only chance most of us have of owning real estate.
Ironically, once the ocean levels rise due to human activity, our only dry land, once the downfall to our land legs, shall become our uprising from the watery ashes.
Marco plastic!
One of my aunts does something like this when she comes to town.
She makes "ziploc omelettes."
You throw a couple eggs and some cheese and ham and stuff in a baggie and boil it. :|
Seems like more work than to just make a normal omelette.
Iâve only ever seen this done for groups of people when camping. Itâs easier to boil a pot of water than to make 8 omelets in a row.
Seriously, if you can't make an omelette/scrambled eggs in a normal pan, I think that's natural selection coming for you.
However, making it an omelet in a different way does highlight survival mechanisms at play.
less dishes and pans to wash
It's actually great for backpacking, but I'd never do it at home.
I think Ziploc can handle boiling temps though.
Edit: actually ya no they are not supposed to be used that way.
They specifically say not to use them for sous vide cooking on their own website. They start breaking down around 230F, just above the boiling temp for water.
They specifically make Ziploc bags for that purpose, they call them Endurables.
You would never set a sous vide that high. The highest I've seen a sous vide even be able to go to is like 212. The highest I think I've ever set one to is like 180 as I was doing ribs and didn't have a ton of time to break them down, otherwise I would have went lower.
Yeah but 230 is like the full-on structural integrity breakdown, the whole bag basically melts.
That doesn't mean that there aren't chemical changes and plastic breakdown at lower temps, just that it takes longer.
Actually shit I saw a Ziploc melt this weekend from hot chilies that just got roasted lol. Ya don't do this!
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I used to do something similar to that in uni, crack a couple eggs in a mug beat them ad some cheese and pepper then microwave it for a couple minutes then have it with bread if I was in a rush
Your way isnât nearly as bad.
:(
How do you think low-tier restaurants, frozen scrambled egg vendors, cafeterias, and prisons serve eggs to hundreds of people at a time?
When you eat overly dense scrambled eggs that are somehow still runny? And you didnt see how it was cooked? This is more than likely what you ate.
Source: Worked at a hospital cafeteria, and also a prison kitchen.
I 100% believe it. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of microplastic research is relatively new in the public eye, and we've likely been poisoning ourselves with them for decades.Â
this is messed up
Nah, thatâs some macroplastics
Wait till OP finds out about Sous Vide.
Yes, this is a viable cooking method. However, not usually done in a broth but submerging the food completely (not with air as shown in the pic) and heating the water.
The difference is the kind of plastic used and temperature control. Some plastics aren't meant to be boiled in water?
But yeah, fair enough I guess, everything has microplasticsin it , even fresh Antarctic snow. The quantity is still worth trying to control for through.
It's Sous vide /s
this looks like a dish that would be served on some alien planet in starwars
Macroplastic!
You won't be eating that when you know what it's made out of, micro plastics aside. I think that's "Papaitan." A dish cooked with beef or goat meat, a few of its innards, and its "shit juice." They squeeze the undigested stuff inside the gut and mix the shit juice in while it's cooking.
They squeeze the undigested stuff inside the gut and mix the shit juice in while it's cooking.
There is no "shit juice" involved. You use bile, which helps break down food, but at no point is there any "shit juice" being used.
You can use intestines in the soup, but those are cleaned before cause no one wants to eat animal shit in their soup.
You are right. I've always just called it "shit juice" because the liquid looks and smells horrible, especially when it's being boiled prior to mixing it in. In some parts, it's not just the bile that they use, but they also use the juices of the undigested stuff in the gut.
Unlimited power dumps
Well that explains why it looks unappetizing (at least to me)
Lol, I can't blame you.
I don't wanna try it but I wonder how it tastes
Slightly bittersweet and sour, with a hint saltiness to balance it out. Besteverfood did a video of it when he went to the Philippines. This can be cooked without the shit juice, though, and most Asian stores in the US actually sell "papaitan seasoning," similar to a packet of taco seasoning, that emulates the bittersweet taste. It's usually beef meat, intestines, liver, and tripe.
If I can find a non-shit version, I would definitely try it
Organ soups are yum
I guess like shit
Ever throw up until all that's left to be thrown up is green bile? Probably similar.
But why are they using plastic
Those usually contain innards that customers would prefer to eat.
Even though I am aware of what offal is, there goes my appetite,
Well now I want to try it.
More like plastic with a side of whatever that is.
it's brains inside the plastic. they do that so that the brains don't get squished.
it's brains inside the plastic. they do that so that the brains don't get squished.
I mean, its your option kung lalamun ka sa ganyang kainan. Hahahaha
Oh hell no
I wouldn't be worried about microplastics, which occurs when the plastic is breaking down over long periods of time, but I would be worried about compounds that can leech out of the plastic. The chances this is a high qualify food-grade plastic are probably pretty low, and heat and moisture is a concern even with food-grade plastics.
The water is brown cuz a lot of the bags are leaking
Someone doesnât understand micro plastics.
A prominent chef at a well known restaurant in NOLA tried to teach me to poach eggs like this.......
Plastic touching your food doesnât poison your food.
Boiling plastic can definitely leech in chemicals though
Everything is chemicals.
Yeah, and boiling plastic adds more chemicals.
And thatâs bad becauseâŚ
I should have clarified: Boiling plastic like this leeches chemicals harmful to humans into the food.
Cause cancer?
Thatâs definitely logical.
BPA friendly
more like macroplastic
Macro-plastic
That would be macroplastics since theyâre visible.
These people wish theyâre dead so why should they give a crap, am I right?
Boil-in-bag meatballs, one pack.
Mixiotes?
I'm good
Nothing micro about that!
I have already a lot of microplastics in my balles, thanks you.
Pfas gives the real taste
MACRO
Micro plastics?
Nah i want mega plastics
The contents might just smell horrible and this keeps the place from smelling like a goat pen
Not saying that it is but it could be like a sous vide bag or some other safe material.
I remember that scene from ExistenZ
Those look like macro plastics
This is how the Army cooks their protein in the field
Bro the earth is so fucked we already have micro plastics in us. Just fucking role with whatever now. All our kids or kids kids or kids kids kids are fucking doomed anyways. This earth is dying, 2 generations away from you no one will think or say your name. Fuck it. I'll have micro plastic soup. Life's to short to not eat boiled garbage lol
My guess would be this is Pagpag, so micro plastics is absolutely not a concern here. Those kind of concerns are for the privileged
That violates a lot of health codes but the Department of Health doesn't care at all. The restaurants I've been at are dirty af, same with small businesses.
Cite your sources! Which health codes does this violate, and in what country?
Philippines, street food vendors have to be licensed, this one may not be.
"May not be". The other person affirmatively stated that "this violates several health codes". The assumption that they might not be licensed without any actual evidence to suspect that isn't in itself a healthcode violation.
Just pay off the cop that day and you all good, homie.
If they didnât have the Philippines shirt I would have guessed India.
Yes from PH and the food is called beef pares. Those meat in plastic I think are the serving size per order.
Wonder why they do that? Tiny chops of meat in a big casserole full of hot soup it will be hard to partition meat servings.
Most likely because they have lots of patrons so they pre-cut the meat in plastic. Others will just cut it whenever someone buys since they have more time.
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In SEA they love using plastic bags for taking out hot soups and everything.