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I mean, this video entirely skips over the double and trippling down in between the apologies
and admitting the apologies were fake and meant only to serve himself, until the final, definitely real apology
Third chances**
yeah i ended up just deleting that part when it hit me lol
Hi, I'm checking in as someone who saw Simple's video and came here to find another perspective, what happened during 2022-24 where Hax doubled down? I remember seeing evidence.zip 2, but I haven't followed anything since then.
Instead of writing you a summary let me just say this: get out now. This shit is not worth it.
he made about 6 hours of videos in total. TOs from his scene initially privately reached out to him, asked him to take them down, told him the consequences of not taking them down, and then he continued to upload them anyways
And archive of his removed videos and apologies:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-v68EdOhTpe_0XhJMJiHG6VySoEzhSuL
Thanks, Simple detailed all the apologies, but definitely glossed over some things. Skipping "evidence.zip 3" could be forgiven since it was so soon after .zip 2. I'll have to look at "The Truth" more closely, I can't tell much right now.
He needs to stay banned. Hax had an agenda: Cancel Leffen. He brought up some claims to try and sway public opinion, and then exaggerated a bunch of stuff to try and make them look worse than they were. When that didn't work he re-edited and uploaded his hit piece to be more palatable, twice. When that didn't work he co-opted a bunch of grifter conspiracy theorists to harass Leffen and several other people. And when that didn't work he made a series of apologies, starting by taking very little responsibility and gradually owning up to more to see how little he could get away with. And when that didn't work he doubled down on the original claims of his video and admitted the apologies were not genuine.
Stop going to bat for this guy. It's pointless. He doesn't wanna get help. He wants to be right at any cost, even if it means sabotaging his own career. This whole thing is on him. Lesson learned: don't try to leverage your clout to take down someone you personally don't like. Ironic considering that's what he and his fans have been accusing Leffen of doing this whole time.
annnnnnnd technicals saw the simple video, and says he has something similar + large that'll take a few weeks to finish. guess we're back on the cycle of weirdo dramamongering altrights latching onto this.
Yeah, mana monthly freaks and technicals are probably the reason that hax$ isn't unbanned yet.. Psychos are aggressively hateful and very loud when it comes to this situation bc it's the only way they can get attention. Not sure if hax$ even associates with them, though. He avoids the mana monthly tournaments, even though they are probably begging him to go.
I definitely wouldn't view simple as a dramamongering altright.
Idk where I stand on Haxs but I don't see what's wrong with people giving their 2 cents on a situation in a community they like
not simple, technicals
Oh my reading comprehension failed me
Not sure on who this is but characterizing haxes videos as normal and that he would be a video essayist if people liked him? Wtf this dude is severely underplaying how unhinged those videos are.
Im not sure how you could watch those videos and be like yes this is a well adjusted person that is ok to have at my tournament.
Also remember TOs arent some corporate big wig that are paid, they are doing this shit for free and its completely fair that they do not want to deal with a guy who compared another player to hitler in an incoherant 2 hour video.
Also his point on how tournaments are about deciding who the best player is and not the best player who follows the rules is really stupid because literally every competition that exists has some kind of behavioral rules.
Like i dont consider myself apart of yalls community, i browse and watch melee so i dont really care but this video is at best really stupid or at worst manipulative trying to downplay unhinged behavior.
This is especially whack because I know he's directly spoken with the ny TOs on social media and they explained their decision to him, which he seemed to get. This isn't the first time simple has called for this
who is the simply guy? Is he a melee player i havent heard of? or a TO or something?
mario-based youtuber/twitch streamer, does play melee though not at a notable level.
More accurate title is guy who is not member of the melee community defends a serial abuser of the community. You aint fooling anyone aside from banned mana monthly weirdos
He is apart of the community tho
Weird choice for Simpleflips to endorse a guy that made his life mission to attempt to deplatform someone to the point of death threats.
Haven't watched the video yet, I hope it's just ignorance over it all, but based on the comments I don't see that happening.
he just entirely skipped over most of the issue
who is simpleflips, is he some person who has played melee that I've never heard of or something? I would assume he's a big melee player since he thinks his opinion on this is relevant right
He's mostly known as a top level Mario 64 speedrunner, but he also plays melee.
mfs whole reply history to this is "erm ackshually you probably dont play melee, opinion discarded" mate is that your only argument lmaoo
Who? Am I supposed to know who this is? If this was like “armada asks for hax to be unbanned” Id watch it but i dont care about this guy?
really appreciate him for this. I'd bring nothing but positivity if it could happen. <3
Bullshit
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Yeah Hax$ has never done anything other than the psychotic leffen mental break.
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/o55yay/ibdw_calls_out_hax_after_he_denies_sexual_abuse/
Oh wait hes a complete piece of shit i forgot
Ok but iBDW did lie about fucking his mom during the height of the great pedo summer of smash. For attention, presumably.
I hope Hax$ gets another chance, kudos for SimpleFlips for having the courage to bring this up.
I hope Hax$ gets another chance after he burns the chance you wished for him.
"Trust me guys this time things will be better, history never repeats itself"
what place did you get at your last local
whole lotta people who dont post here showing up lmao
Shoutouts to Simpleflips, I have a ton of respect for him using his platform to say a truth that most of the melee community doesn't want to hear
shoutout to Simpleflips getting his reactionary brigade of incels who have literally never once posted to this subreddit to defend an abusive POS.
What makes you think he or his fans are reactionary or incels
Brother you're fighting ghosts. Chill out a bit, ok?
is this an agenda? Simpleflips is super progressive, pro lgbtq, pro trans. He is literally the oppoosite of these mana monthly freaks. Disagree with the video, but dont attack a really nice guy who has a super safe-space community.
what place did you get at your last local
What place did you?
Imo this is a great video, i think hax has been treated unbelievably harshely compared to others in the scene. The fact that you arent even allowed to argue hax's side without endlessly getting shit on, bullied, and harrassed shows that this community has completely failed. Fair discussion, or even just discussion at all is shut down, nobody will ever hear the other side of any argument because they are already convinced that they're right.
what place did you get at your last local
https://slippi.gg/user/melee-1
what place did you?
Nah man, the trust with hax is really easy to understand. The second he admitted to lying for the sake of an apology, it became impossible to trust him.
Hes asking for trust while having abused trust in the past. It is what it is, go find a new community.
It’s laughable that people in this community think Hax’ past lapses of mental stability pose any kind of threat to anyone. It’s done and dead at this point. Just let the dude play the video game, and stay mad.
he can play the video game all he wants, he just can't do it at places where the organizers don't want him there
That was implied
I followed this whole situation pretty closely since its inception. You know how you work in a large company, and there is some COMPLETE BULLSHIT rule that has existed for 50 years? And there is no way to ever change it because the 90 year old dinosaurs at the top made a ruling so long ago they dont even remember? And now thats just the way things need to be forever? This is just like that. Smaller communities like this have the benefit of younger people, and people who actually give a shit running things, yet the "power" given to these people corrupted them, and a community as niche as this gets fucked by these absurd rulings by power hungry mods who for some reason get to decide something like this, with no input from people like me, who have been a part of this community since its inception. No reasonable person wants hax to remain banned.
Every reasonable person who has a brain wants him go remain banned, you speak for noone. Your comment history includes fundamentalist christianity, defending Trump, and defending privatized pharmacare in Canada. Youre not educated on any topic whatsoever. Attend a local before posting diatribes on melee social media
I've noticed this at my local too, there's a weirdly large overlap between people who keep bringing up unbanning hax and trump supporters
That's confirmation bias if I have ever read it. Most people just want to see good players playing melee and hax is someone who could win supermajors. I think anyone else who loves melee would want to see that.
what place did you get at your last local
6th
I love watching good melee. More than I like watching good melee, I like the melee community to be a safe space. Keep abusive people banned tyvm. Being good at the game does not mean you can get away with being an asshole.
As a trump hating freehaxer I promise you there are plenty of trump hating freehaxers in the community. They just don't speak out cause of the chilling effect. And also Hax dug his own grave so much and has been dishonest about his intentions too many times it's hard to defend him passionately. I'd unban him if I was in charge cause he's obviously no danger to anyone, and leffen quit so who cares about him anymore, but I also don't care that much. Why would I put myself out on a limb for his sake. The passionate Hax defenders are all leffen jisu truthers which is the same conspiratorial trumper mindset.
While I believe you're entitled to your own opinion I'll just say it's far from obvious that he's no danger to anyone.
Hey I think their take is dumb considering a vast majority of people, not just the TOs and community figureheads, want Hax to remain banned. That being said, I don’t think them being hardcore Christian or liking trump has anything to do with this discussion.
Dumb takes are not exclusive to Evangelical christian trump supporters, but their takes are basically exclusively dumb if u catch my drift.
This is part of what Im talking about when I say "Power hungry mods". People who will see others opinion on completely unrelated things, and assume they are relevant to the conversation. I was looking forward to an argument against the hax unban, but instead it was just another person digging through the comment history of a hardly used account.
Also, As a Canadian of 30+ years, Our health care system sucks ass. To say otherwise means you are seriously unfamiliar with it.
hardly used account but youve posted dozens of times this week OMEGALUL
Actually the system is fine and way better than the US. You don't speak for Canadians bub.
i do
I'd argue that no reasonable person wants hax to be unbanned. His videos were psychotic, and he continued to double down without having any common sense from the reaction of each of them, that he was clearly sounding insane.
He truly believed(believes) leffen is as bad as a nazi.
I do think that his locals could move towards unbanning him. But dude shouldn't be allowed back at nationals anytime soon. He was so hell bent on getting the entire community to turn on leffen, that Leffen was getting death threats. He didn't even immediately attack his followers for using such threats. Only after the backlash of the community on his lack of action did he say something because he was being strong armed
I say this, when Hax was my favorite player in the scene for the longest time. Big House 4 was my first non evo tournament, and I cheered him on ever since he got falcon downsmashed. But dude is a looney at this point
His local scene did give him a chance, he burned it a few months ago and they (rightfully) banned him for it.
Saying somebody "Got death threats" is meaningless. I hear people say this all the time and just roll my eyes. People throw around death threats online constantly. You can spin up a burner account and send 500 death threats in 5 mins if you want. The videos really were not that bad. People just freaked out because he used a few key buzzwords people are uncomfortable with.
I imagine you've given more death threats than you've received. Doesn't change the fact that its a crime and a felony is some cases
Of course I agree, but lets not admit that 99.999% of "Death threats" arent some random anime pfp twitter account typing the message "k*** yourself" or something along those lines.
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On a personal note, can we just...not do this again? Who is this person?