"Coup! Coup!"
Listen here you creative mofo
I saw some anti-Biden pigeons the other day. They were going
“Coup! Coup!”
Woooouuww...
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Even though I’ve seen this posted a million times….it still makes me laugh because it truly is the perfect metaphor. A bunch of pigeons with little red hats, heads bobbing up and down, frantically walking and pooping around each other, looking to see what the big fat orange pigeon is doing so they can all copy him.
Throw in the pigeons "MINE" from finding Nemo, and it's perfect.
Seagulls
This applies to the vast majority of Americans and westerners, but they don't have the self-awareness to recognize it. The problem is they're inundated with narratives of american exceptionalism, westerners superiority, and white supremacy from the days they're born to safeguard manufactured consent in the form of public opinion on imperialist/capitalist exploitation both domestically and abroad, so they don't know what they don't know. They conflate liberalism with their exceptionalism, western superiority and white supremacy, so when you talk to them about liberties of black people, Palestinains, colonized people, etc., it's like you're speaking another language to them.
Edit: Americans and westernizers do not like it when you acknowledge it or call them out on it. As I said, most lack the self-awareness to recognize it, as the below are highlighting. You know how you can recognize that Trumpers are full of it? Well, you're the "Trumpers" on the global stage.
Bullshit is not limited to America and Westerners. One can make a counter argument that non Americans are "inundated with narratives" that all Americans think they are better than everyone else, which is not true. We have our fair share of assholes, but then so does every country in the world, some worse than others.
Yeah, no. Needlessly narrowing that to people you don't like.
Absolutely not limited to Americans and westerners.
"Vast majority of Americans and westerners"?
More like a goose.
Those things… then yell at you for existing.
Once long long ago Canadians were the most violent of people. The gods looked down and knew, if they spread across the world all would be rot and ruin. So they spoke amongst themselves and decided the people should be purged.
But one fair white bird stood up and spoke. Do not kill them, for their darkness is a burden upon them. Place their madness upon me and I shall carry it forever.
And so the gods agreed.
And onto the fair goose, who was once the most kind and most gentle, they poured the wrath of Canadians. The bird's white feathers darkened and it was done.
And relieved of their madness Canadians knew what the goose had done for them, and they hung their heads in shame.
And that is why geese are forever angry, and Canadians forever sorry.
Poetry.
My favorite explanation, it is the only logical explanation
This should be a copypasta.
Based on what's happening in Canada right now, I'm getting ready to see our geese start turning back to white.
The whole time reading this story, I figured the white bird was a swan, who’s an even bigger asshole than Canadian goose! 😂
If you've got a problem with Canada gooses then you've got a problem with me, and I suggest you let that one marinate.
I don't think this is the appropriate maritiming for such a statement.
Praise goose for their sacrifice
then accuse you of being a government shill or a jew. at least that's how it works on /pol/.
Here's Sartre's take on the right-wing extremists of his time:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.
The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Yup. And they pair it with Atwater's Southern Strategy, repurposed.
"You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*gger, n*gger, n*gger.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*gger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract.
Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.…
“We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*gger, n*gger.”
We want small government!! Individual freedom!! Except when we try to force our overtly Christian views on the masses
Fuckin geese
But I am a Jew! Now what?! 😭
How dare you insult the name of the universe's most noble and magnificent creature, the majestic goose! Trump supporters are nothing like geese, because geese are intelligent, loyal, family-oriented birds that know the meaning of community! You'll never catch a goose trying to impose a religion's beliefs on others -- they think every human belief is equally stupid. And trickle down economics? Even a goose knows that's made up.
In summation, geese are amazing, kind, peace-loving animals, and if you don't agree they will cut you.
Canada is so lovely and polite because they put all their anger and contemptuousness into their water fowl.
CW: deeply anti-Canadian sentiment ahead, also connotations of sexual violence.
Don't forget that some of that rage and sociopathic disregard for others goes into our junior hockey teams too.
And Quebecois drivers.
I actually found Quebec drivers pretty tame on my last road trip.
I mean I got run off the road in Quebec by a completely clueless moron in their Prius, but I felt like the anger level had dropped 😂
I grew up driving in Chicago and commuted into the city; where speed limits on the highways are suggestions and any space between cars is aggressively taken by another car. If you cut in line for a toll, you’d get shot.
I was not at all prepared for my first trip in Quebec.
IF YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH CANADIAN GOOSES THEN YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME, AND I SUGGEST YOU LET THAT ONE MARINATE.
You’re fuckin’ 10-ply, bud
You know I saw a couple Canada Gooses mount a swan once and you gotta think that swan went and told her friends about it
I am too tired to process that sentence today.
When you're a famous goose the swans just let you...
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The only animal that wants anything to do with Canada Gooses are Canada Mooses
When I was comins up, we'd be lucky to have oils, now yous are puttings it on gooses eggses! Must be fuckin' nice!
Beeaaaahhwhehehhehehe I'm wheezing
This goose has already been marinating for a few hours over night. How much longer do I need to wait? Thanks for the suggestion.
If it talks like a goose and steps like a goose, it's probably a nazi
No goose or pigeon ever looked like this though .
My eyes! Yikes! You have to warn people before you link things like that!
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Please! Warn us with a NSFL (not safe for life) tag!
And take whatever bread you have
Don’t forget being very aggressive physically too
:(
HONK!
Pigeons don't know how stupid they are
Neither do trump supporters
They are smugly confident in their ignorance.
Dunning-Kreugers, if you will.
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Yup, but the Trump supporters won't understand that.
He just wants to be inclusive!
You think the average Trump supporter does?
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Original version is about arguing with creationists
Equal intelligence level as a Trump supporter, then.
I'm guessing there's a lot of overlap between those two groups.
The Venn Diagram is one circle inside a slightly larger circle.
creationists, flat earthers, climate change deniers, and MAGAs are like a Tower of Hanoi; at some point the only answer you're going to get is "pray harder" to discover the truth.
I doubt there are many MAGA people who are not religious. I think it would be hard to find as many non-religious people who are so willing to accept apparently false statements as facts based solely on someone else's say so.
So many where I live. They love TFG because they love his policies. Ie: they vote their wallet because their only god is $
Not every Trump supporter is a creationist, but all creationists are Trump supporters.
My dad is a creationist and is very anti-Trump. I admit that this is very rare (all of my parents' friend circle of creationists are pro-Trump). I think that he became a creationist at a different time of his life and is sticking to it out of habit. But they are now very pro indigenous rights and environmentalists, and that has led them to become anti-Trump.
The mentality is the same “I believe this person that I like, so anything else they tell me must be true too, especially since they tell me that (Satan means adversary in Hebrew) anyone opposed to them is evil.” ….hmmmmm…
Sooner or later, if our species wants to survive, we’re going to have to jettison organized religion. It’s literally thought cancer, and disables peoples’ ability to think critically when they’ve decided that it’s inconvenient to do so.
If there’s a god, let it tell us. I’m so far beyond sick of hearing about this god character from these people, and I’m even more sick of hearing about how great Jesus is from the fucking idiots who would crucify him again for preaching about kindness and tolerance.
Sooner or later, if our species wants to survive, we’re going to have to jettison organized religion.
Will never happen so long as the looming mortality we all face is too much for people. Religion is meant to be a comfort from the inevitable void, and the weak minded take great comfort that there will be something "after".
Yeah, that worries me too. Honestly, I think extinction is more likely.
They're the same people
Insert it’s the same picture meme.
It is. The philosophy is both "I'm right because I say so, ignore all the evidence saying otherwise".
Which, btw, is still true to this day. Youtube is filled with people still shooting down the same YEC arguments over and over again. Ad nauseum.
Speaking with them personally, you find that they can be shown and understand how their belief has been proven incorrect, and they’ll ignore that and repeat the incorrect statement again, anyway. When given the correcting information again, they respond, with 0 sense of irony, “You’re just parroting the same things over and over. Get something new!”
That's the problem with any belief based on faith or spirituality: at the end of the day, any argument can be defeated by "well I just believe it"
I thought the original was "arguing with idiots". But you are probably right because I remember the creationists one too
I think the arguing with idiots one is like this:
Don't argue with idiots, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Both versions exist
Some really good quotes on that post. Thanks.
Yeah, why do people do this? Passing off old stuff as their own thoughts?
Any voter who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 and will vote for Trump in 2024 is beyond redemption. They are TFG's. (Too Far Gone)
To speak about politics to such persons on your own personal time is to allow your time to be stolen from you. Avoiding such situations is admittedly much harder with immediate family and close friends, which makes this all the more enraging.
I like that you used an acronym and then typed out what the acronym was. Some people would say that’s tmi (too much information), but I disagree
This is unfair to pigeons. They're pretty cool in some ways. Amazing flyers. Trump supporters do not have redeeming characteristics.
They also used to carry messages during wars. So much better than Trump supporters.
The thing about wrestling pigs is you both end up covered in shit, but the pig enjoys it.
I mean, sometimes I'm just in that mood.
Pigs are quite intelligent, capable of empathy, and look out for their droves.
I think the supporters can cover one of those, at best.
Yup. Perfect summary of 4 years of presidency and the after Hours show aswell. Love it!
They did win, though, because their intent wasn't to play the game in good faith, it was to destroy it and make you mad.
It's more pity than anger. It's been awful to watch good people get turned into terrible ones by constant lies.
I dunno. They made thousands of choices to follow the bullshit when they knew better. Out of fear, out of wanting to belong, whatever, but. Y'know. They absolutely knew better and deliberately threw reason and logic out the window to follow a racist sociopath conman who couldn't be more obvious if that was his actual fucking name.
Pretty angry, is my point. That was totally unnecessary.
They did, but wanting to belong is a basic human trait. Thats why its always them discussing politics and the rest of us trying to ignore it. They want to know if youre in their club.
Its unbelievably sad but its a product of low intelligence. The RW media plays on their anger and theyre unable to responsibly parse that information and be rational. It's not their fault they can't do the mental math and figure it out.
100% this "product of low intelligence". I have NEVER met a legit trump supporter who is actually has any critical thinking.
They really should have a test you have to pass to be able to vote. I doesn't even have to be hard! Just a simple 5th grade science test. And if you can't pass it, you can't vote lol.
Jokes aside, I really wonder how many trump supporters that would single out. Really ask yourself that? I would be around 95% of them.
Black people ain’t falling for that one again
Giving the government the power to determine who gets to exercise their rights means that they're no longer rights. Not even felons should be disallowed from voting, in my opinion, because that just creates an incentive for the state to criminalize its political opponents (hence, the War on Drugs).
Exactly!
I’ve been using this expression for years, although in my version it’s always been “Arguing with an idiot…”
So, you know, the same thing.
If Trump supporters knew how to self-reflect they'd be very upset right now!
This isnt 2016 anymore. Trump's MAGA insanity has become the conservative norm. But even before Trump, the only rational conservatives were the ones who could at least be intellectually honest that conservativism existed only to promote corporate interests and the interests of the top 1%. The best argument I ever heard for a worker voting conservative was one of appeasement: they feared the rich had too much power and that they would retaliate and hurt the working class even further if we fought back. And he wasn't wrong, companies will shut a location down if it unionizes even if the location was very profitable just so they can make a point. Or they threatened to send our jobs overseas. It is essentially blackmail and it works.
Neoliberalism exists for the same purpose but you get to feel like a nice person because you don’t hate gay people.
So…better?
That IS neoliberalism. Neoliberalism has NOTHING to do with modern liberalism.
Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy.
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.
What an extremely moronic take.
I mean, after the Roger Stone clip.......yeah.
I don‘t appreciate you comparing pigeons to trump supporters. Those poor pigeons!
This is disturbingly accurate.
Yes, I can see Trump as a child knocking a game over when he lost. Actually, I can see him doing that now.
I treat trumpers the way I do flat earthers, sovereign citizens, or someone who claims to have a unicorn in their closet at home.
Clearly they’re mentally ill, but there’s nothing to be done to help them, so just walk away.
Logic itself is liberal. Conservatives take conclusions handed down from authority and scramble together a passable body of “evidence” and slipshod “arguments” to sate liberals as a false front for their ideology. Liberals, by contrast, use reason and external evidence to reach and evaluate ideas and frequently contradict authority and each other. Both project their approach onto the other side; thus “both sides”-ism from the left and accusations of “liberal indoctrination” from the right.
Pigeons are way way way smarter than trumpers though.
They'll all be rotting in prison soon enough 🥰
A boy can dream.
Doubt it...
They dumb it down to their level and then beat you with their own game
I just don't feel that smearing shit on walls qualifies as a game.
Old tweet reused by someone else. But still true of course.
This joke is very old, but unfortunately it's eternal
Or a flat earther
I love this! Fill in the blank…Arguing with a Trump supporter is like: ______.
Arguing with a Trump supporter is like discussing dialectical phenomenology with a toddler on crack. No matter how well-prepared and rational you are, the toddler is still going to shit its diapers and scream until it gets more crack.
Still, maybe if you beat the shit out of the pigeon (in a public setting and debating) the other pigeons may realize how fucking stupid they look.
Don't give up on the cultists.
Have you ever tried to swat a fly buzzing around you, and you miss, and it just keeps buzzing around you? Despite the imminent danger it’s facing. And so do the other flies. They’ll fly right into the light of a zapper even after just watching their friends get zapped.
Some creatures just don’t have the brain capacity for learning.
I'd love to share this with my family, but it would just be like playing chess with a pigeon.
I say all the time that I don't play chess with pigeons.
This goes for arguing with anybody on the right side of the political spectrum.
I've stopped arguing with them. Now I just point out that if they still support republicans, they are evil, hateful people who have no problem with racists, nazis, rapists, pedophiles, and xenopobes.
Before 2016 we could still be somewhat civil. Since then we have been shown that they only care to hurt people that don't think like them. You can't argue in good faith or be civil to people like that.
We have to show them that the rest of the world won't tolerate this shit. We are not going back into the dark ages because they have a hard on for the Christian rapture.
Don't forget they'll take PPP loans and then complain about the unemployed.
You know what sucks.. is they probably have a meme saying the exact opposite and share it with total conviction.
Everytime you start making good points and they onow it, they'll hit you with whataboutism after whataboutism after whataboutism.
Conservative policy platform is like a pigeons nest.
I voted for trump the first round but not the second... I find this to be atleast somewhat accurate.
The goal here is to reframe all discussions in term of checkers while the Trump supporter thinks they're playing chess. The way I've been able to do this in the past is to take the concept of reparations for black people. Every single Trump supporter will think of this in terms of race, whether they admit it or not. I let them. What I say is that, right before Christmas of 2018, the government shut down. Our military was forced to work for 35 days without pay during this time.
First you ask if these people deserved to be paid for those 35 days. They'll say yes. Then you ask why they deserve to be paid. They'll say something along the lines of "because they worked for it."
I've only had this conversation twice, but both times I got them to say this out loud and the immediate reaction from them is they get flustered. Because they realize what they said as soon as they said it. This works because they were fighting this battle along racial lines, and they didn't realize I was fighting this battle along labor lines. Black people worked for it. They ought to be paid.
The only alternative is saying that people don't deserve payment for their work, at which point you can confidently say that that is a shitty opinion to have. Works every time.
"Never mud wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty and the pig enjoys it."
I've got people at work who would like to "discuss" politics. I will keep it brief but I find it easier and easier to disregard them. I view their opinion - and them if I am being honest - to be irrelevant. I know that I cannot trust their opinion on anything significant (finances being a good example) and will simply work with them and let them be. But from literally every other aspect, they are irrelevant to me.
Republican meme makers will rewrite this about Democrats and repost it in 6 months, getting laugh emojis from old Facebook users with sunglasses in their profile picture.
Then steal the pieces and blame the other side!
I saw this comment being echoed in 2016
You have to do it at a level they can understand. They don't get chess, they don't get checkers, they only get bullshit. So give them shit.
Uncle, "Gas prices are Bidens fault!"
Me, "What are you a Socialist now?"
Uncle, "What?"
Me, "Gas prices are free market, your for the free market right? Capitalism? You want Biden to control gas prices? Do you want Biden to control the cost of guns and ammo too because that could come next?"
Hehe
Spot on
You could also argue the pigeon was never playing the game so it never actually lost.
Perfect analogy w the latest cheating scandals in chess
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/14/crosswords/hans-niemann-cheating-report.html
Arguing with a MAGA supporter is like arguing with a crow; he will just shout louder than you and without making any sense.
Talking with a friend who lives in a dilapidated trailer in a slum trailer park who gets $500 a mth in food stamps. Knowing he “loves” trump, I said he should thank a Dem for this “social” program. He spewed venom about Dems. He has no idea how much trump loathes him.
But then you can kill and eat the pigeon, not so much with a Trump supporter
The pigeon is great at using pawns, though, and grabbing your queen by the pussy
Not even, the newest administration of pigeons is getting fucked in the bird hole all of its pawns are ratting them out for their crimes. And the pawns on the Supreme Court just shat on the orange pigeons hopes and dreams.
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Is he taking credit for this? I swear I saw something extremely similar months ago. It's true lol, but still screw copying.
The pigeon analogy has been around for years now… I think it goes back to 2005 or so.
Yeah this meme was big in atheist circles when it was still super edgy to be an atheist back around that time. It honestly probably predates the internet.
"It's all good, fam" -Mark Twain
Yeah, this is incredibly old. I first heard it about Iraq War 2.
It came from here originally
Thank you
Just because you claim you're right doesn't mean you are!
Wait, no way, you guys are finally understanding
About damn time
You have no idea how much this analogy is used for so many things. It’s become kinda overused tbh.
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The smart Trump supporters know not to argue with people online, and just keep it to themselves, because he's the least defensible president we've ever had.
Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with... A liberal. No matter how good you are at chess they'll just change the rules, gaslight you about it, and then call you a bigot for pointing it out.
I guess you all are enjoying your current America right now…… lol
Arguing with a Trump hater is useless because they just repeat things they’ve heard.
Omar is extremely brilliant
Red Team v Blue Team.
Technically true, and red team are actual traitorous Nazis.... Makes the choice pretty easy when you think about it.
Actual nazis? Literally?
Yes... And stating otherwise demonstrates either naivety or malevolence on your part.
This exact analogy was used in Canadian parliament about Pierre Poilievre over 10 years ago. Give the real author credit Omar.
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Thank you for this, seriously: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-death-rates-higher-republicans-democrats-why-rcna50883
Please keep up the hard work and keep spreading the word among GOP voters.
It’s a problem that sorts itself out
Hahaha 🤣 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Trying to explain that this is a stolen quote is like playing chess with a pigeon.
Good artists borrow, great artists steal.
-- me, but also someone else before me
It's not so much a stolen quote as it is a Decades old, if not centuries old saying.
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Aplica a los similares de AMLO
Touché.
👍🏼
Same goes for Biden supporters ;)
This joke would be funny if I didn't see it 37 times already.
Are we gonna just repost well liiked things now? This is sitate Ive already seen mentioned in many comments
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