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Who cares anymore, this manga is pretty dead
What content we got last year? Nothing, just bullshit and redrawing.
We barely seeing the main character lmao.
It hurts but it's starting to be true 😞 The last point really doesn't make sense because OPM has always had an element of exploring other characters background and conflict before letting Saitama enter the story, but the story developments in Flashy Flash and Sonic's arc really lost steam after the rewrites and delays.
It just seems like the team is in denial of being either burned out or having creative troubles with how to move forward.
The last point really doesn't make sense because OPM has always had an element of exploring other characters
It's getting worse, and I'm pretty sure saitama was on screen at least 75% of time first 10 volumes.
Manga title is literally one punch man, not heroes killing monsters or something.
What Madhouse adapted was almost all about Saitama, that part of the manga is much better than anything else.
Madhouse simply adapted the initial chapters, where the goal was to show us who Saitama was as a character.
Following the chapters used by Madhouse for season 1, Murata and ONE already began framing arcs with different "main characters" and held Saitama out of it until the right moment.
This allows these characters to shine in their own way without Saitama just swooping in and winning. After all, it's important to remember One Punch is a parody of the shonen trope, it isn't a pure power fantasy.
In my opinion, it's less of an issue that Saitama hasn't been seen much of this arc and more of a problem that Murata is redrawing this side arc for no highly motivating reason. If the redraws were released in the beginning, this equivalent chapter would've released 5 months ago and we would've wrapped up this arc (we'd have probably seen more of Saitama as well since it's expected he'll arrive later in this arc when dealing with Empty Void.
I'm still very unhappy with the state of the manga now like you are, but I do think that it is massively more due to the unnecessary redraws of this side arc than the percentage of time Saitama spends on the front panels.
"initial chapters"
They literally adapted 7 volumes, that's like quarter of the manga...
Following the chapters used by Madhouse for season 1, Murata and ONE already began framing arcs with different "main characters" and held Saitama out of it until the right moment.
They did, and I hate that decision, I can easily see it works much better if they continued putting Saitama on the spotlight I mean tbh at first it didn't bother me somewhere about Garou's arc, I thought he was going to be the main antagonist and they were building things up, and also Saitama got a lot of screen time at that arc, but now? He is a supporting character at most.
it's less of an issue that Saitama hasn't been seen much of this arc and more of a problem that Murata is redrawing this side
imo both are related problems, if he was redrawing Saitama fights or something people won't complain, but who cares about flashy flash and Sonic drama lmao.
You can remember when he redrew some Garou vs Saitama chapters, I think everyone was still hyped.
It's just much more fun when saitama is around, everyone should agree with that.
he'll arrive later in this arc when dealing with Empty Void.
That's probably a spoiler but I don't really care anymore.
They literally adapted 7 volumes, that's like quarter of the manga
If you didn't like the wording of "initial chapters" that's fine, the point remains the same. The first QUARTER of the manga was fleshing out Saitama as a character, someone whose motivations we didn't truly understand until that first season of material was concluded.
Following that, the formula of the story was not to just have Saitama go around solving other people's problems immediately. It was to have them get fleshed out as characters first, show growth on their own merit, and have Saitama only show up when he is truly needed as a hero.
You can see this everywhere, from Suiryu facing Gouketsu and his gang and making his stand before Saitama arrives to everyone facing Garou and Saitama only showing up when Garou had already become too powerful for anyone else.
They did, and I hate that decision, I can easily see it works much better if they continued putting Saitama on the spotlight
You're entitled to your opinion, once again, that's fine. But you not liking this method of writing doesn't make it bad. It just makes it different from your expectation. Once again, OPM is not a power fantasy, but a parody of a shounen trope, putting Saitama at the center of the series at all times would simply lose steam with showcasing Saitama ending every random monster he runs into. It's funny for the first few times, but that style would have lost hype long before the length of the manga we have now.
But let's get to the main issue
imo both are related problems, if he was redrawing Saitama fights or something people won't complain, but who cares about flashy flash and Sonic drama lmao.
You just restated my point. Why does you feel like Saitama wasn't involved at all in the story for a while? BECAUSE of the redraws. It's actually only been ~4 chapters since we've seen Saitama when the group assembled at the Hero Association HQ with the discussion of Empty void.
Saitama was really only "gone" for 4 chapters (~2 months of material at Murata's previous pace).
The problem is Murata is very clearly either burned out or creatively blocked along with ONE in how or what to choose to progress to the next central arc. As such, Murata made the very poor decision of redrawing a useless arc and taking way too long to do so instead of going on hiatus to plan for the real future of OPM with the formation of the Neo Heroes.
Saitama is still very much a main character, but in the bubble we have following all of Murata's updates, Saitama's faded altogether from the development hell of this side arc which realistically would've featured more of Saitama way back if Murata didn't reverse 6 chapters and space out redraws month by month.
That's probably a spoiler but I don't really care anymore.
I've recently been taking a break from the OPM manga, only checking in once a month or once every 6 weeks to wait out the current stalling of the manga.
I'd say it's probably best for you too since you're also out of care of current developments of the story.
If you didn't like the wording of "initial chapters" that's fine, the point remains the same.
Oh yeah I definitely didn't, that was very misleading. You were talking like only first 5 chapters were about saitama alone lol.
Now that tou agree that the first QUARTER of the manga was about Saitama, you can't say "it was always about other characters" So yeah the point doesn't "remain the same", you were wrong.
But you not liking this method of writing doesn't make it bad
But it's bad, again the manga title is One Punch Man, that's what the manga promised us, imagine if the manga "Naruto" had naruto appears just only once in a while? That's stupid.
And no, it could work even if Saitama had more screen time, many other manga/anime do it, and many of them worked out just fine or great, you should know that.
parody of a shounen
Most of the VOLUMES after what Madhouse adapted aren't even parody of anything, there isn't even a comedy or anything, most of it became meh.
BECAUSE of the redraws
No, you didn't get my point, not seeing Saitama and his lack of appearance are the same problem, yeah we saw him 5 chapters ago in one panel in a full chapters, that's really laughable.
Saitama is still very much a main character
Is he? I'm not sure when was the last time we got a Saitama centred chapter.
So yeah the point doesn't "remain the same", you were wrong.
I see you're now frustrated that your opinion isn't factual and just nitpicking. My point didn't budge whatsoever, OPM consists of an expositional arc to focus on Saitama as a character and then opens on arcs for other characters' developments. (e.g. Genos, Garou, Suiryu, King, etc.)
But it's bad, again the manga title is One Punch Man, that's what the manga promised us, imagine if the manga "Naruto" had naruto appears just only once in a while? That's stupid.
One Punch Man is a title, it isn't even a name like Naruto 🙄. But I'll humor the argument.
I suppose you also hated Full Metal Alchemist arcs that followed Greed, Scar, or Roy. You probably also hated any Chainsaw Man arcs that the Chainsaw Devil wasn't center stage.
The writing's not stupid, your static mindset is. I suppose you also hate the entirety of Sasuke's Taka arc and revenge on Itachi considering Naruto was not seen for dozens of episodes, same for Sasuke's infiltration of the Five Kage Summit, or an innumerable amount of other stretches of the story that followed other characters like Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura, Itachi, etc.
Instead of thinking any deeper than you do, you immediately use dumb arguments like "it's called One Punch Man, I didn't see the One Punch Man in 5 chapters, THIS MANGA IS A LIE" if you don't like it, at least own up to it, don't be a spoiled brat on it.
Why replying in three separate replays, you look angry lol.
Anyway
I see you're now frustrated that your opinion isn't factual and just nitpicking. My point didn't budge whatsoever, OPM consists of an expositional arc to focus on Saitama as a character and then opens on arcs for other characters' developments
I see so you had no arguments left you decided to repeat your old replays, cool with me!
Whenever you see someone says "My point didn't budge whatsoever" that means they are feeling that it's budging lmao.
One Punch Man is a title, it isn't even a name like Naruto 🙄
Whoa, really? Anyway that supports my point, it's supposed to be about a man who is one punching, not some shit like building nobody-cares-about characters.
None of the manga you mentioned overdid it like OPM did it, and also don't forget that OPM is Comedy/parody and not a serious work which requires the MC to be in spotlight more
Also I already mentioned that I forgave OPM when it did it the first time, but it keeps doing it unlike anything else.
This is without arguing about if what you said about these series is right, as I didn't read any of these manga.
No, you didn't get my point, not seeing Saitama and his lack of appearance are the same problem, yeah we saw him 5 chapters ago in one panel in a full chapters, that's really laughable.
Did you actually follow this manga properly at all?? You brought up Naruto as a comparative example with the names of the series and I could give you 100 examples of gaps of 10 or 15 chapters that had Naruto in for maybe 3 panels total.
Let's look at the ACTUAL story and stop using Murata's last 10 padding chapters as an example. Prior to the Ninja arc that STILL hasn't established conditions where the characters have gone through their own growth and require Saitama to step in:
* We had the Neo Heroes introduction, which had assorted chapters that focused on all S-ranked heroes in respone to the Neo Heroes, Saitama was regularly seen.
* Before we had the Psychic Sisters Arc, where Saitama was ALSO regularly seen, immediately workign with Fubuki to stop Tatsumaki's rampage.
* Before this was literally peak Saitama involvement for the entire finale of the Garou arc.
100 examples of gaps of 10 or 15
Please do.
Nobody cares about what you think is "the actual story" That's just your preference, not what is this manga supposed to be about.
All these arcs you mentioned still lacks Saitama, he had to make something that's common sense lmao.
You really are replying "but Saitama did something in that arc!!!1!" That's beyond question, he is the main character my boy.
100 examples of gaps of 10 or 15
I already gave you 3 in my other comment, I'm not wasting my life combing chapters for every character side arc in Naruto to serve a fool like you that clearly didn't read either Naruto or OPM.
All these arcs you mentioned still lacks Saitama, he had to make something that's common sense lmao.
Are you actually braindead? "Lacks Saitama" despite the fact that all of those arcs start and end with him. OPM is not the power fantasy you want it to be so badly. In order for Saitama to have actual growth, he is used conservatively to work off of other character archetypes like Genos, Sonic, Tatsumaki, King, Bang etc. If you can't accept that much, stop hate reading, and find yourself a better story to read.
You really are replying "but Saitama did something in that arc!!!1!" That's beyond question, he is the main character my boy.
Yes he is... bro did you actually READ any of my comments this thread? That is his point as a main character. He drives the story. You say the manga lacks Saitama yet he's still the main character that you clearly understand.
Nobody cares about what you think is "the actual story" That's just your preference, not what is this manga supposed to be about.
Here's some wisdom for you. When you tell other people that their point is just preference and yet claim the idiotic notion that what you say is somehow any better, maybe look inward and see the irony.
You want OPM to be Dragon Ball and introduce new fighters to get clobbered by Saitama. At least say that instead of dancing on the lines without saying anything. OPM as a manga now is so popular because of its story.
It's the same reason the manga is stalling now, with no strong story to drive it forward. You want more Saitama? Whine some more about it, I'm sure that'll change things. You keep screaming my words are just opinions. Yes they are, and so are yours.
I already gave you 3 in my other comment
97 to go! (This if these 3 were even true examples)
despite the fact that all of those arcs start and end with him
Oh yeah that's clearly enough, my bad :)
the manga lacks Saitama yet he's still the main character that you clearly understand.
He is the main character but he isn't playing his role enough as a main character? Who's the braindead? :)
that what you say is somehow any better
The difference is that my preference is the core argument here, so it's essential? Unlike your preference?
OPM as a manga now is so popular because of its story.
It's popular because the anime who made it look like Dragon ball, and it's losing popularity now because the lack of Dragon Ball similarity :D
Is he [a main character]? I'm not sure when was the last time we got a Saitama centred chapter.
Yes he is. A protagonist/main character is the one that makes the key decisions that affect the plot. EVERY pivotal arc to the story and the world we perceive in OPM is driven by Saitama's actions.
* From recruiting Genos and joining the Hero Association to fighting and stopping Boros.
* When the Monster Association attacked, Orochi was also taken down by Saitama.
* When Garou awakened his cosmic form and essentially eradicated everyone, Saitama saved the timeline by beating him.
* Saitama's resolution to become a hero in the beginning of the manga, saving a kid, DIRECTLY CREATED the Hero Assocaition we see.
We always know that Saitama is the main character that will drive how the world changes before and after each arc, but because he is designed to be unbeatable, OPM uses these arcs to let other characters shine before Saitama swoops down.
Also, this point of yours really hits home that you've lost context of this story as a whole from the recent chapters. Answer me one question: which character appears more than Saitama in this manga? Who's the main character then if you argue Saitama is not?
It's unfortunate your last response was just a bunch of childish ranting because all that says is you're too blinded by opinion to accept that this is a story you don't like instead of it being bad in writing.
OPM as a story is not the "Ninja arc" or the "amount of chapters since we saw Saitama", it is a story about One Punch-Man, the moniker for Saitama and also the theme of his presence as a hero that became too strong.
A good story uses its characters to maximal effect in gaining interest from the readers. Focusing every page on a hero in a world that cannot harm him at all loses interest rapidly. In fact, once again going to Naruto, a key CRITICISM by most on Naruto is the fact that it dropped the ball on all of the other side characters by the end of the show, it literally frustrated a massive part of the fanbase.
In order to tackle an interesting story, ONE uses other characters and Saitama's interactions with them to paint a good story, sometimes focusing on those characters first before wrapping Saitama in the mix to avoid him from solving all their problems with overwhelming strength.
Good stories don't use metrics of showtime of their main character to tell a story, they use the characters as tools to tell it. OPM is not a badly written manga just becase you're frustrated by the title not making every other chapter involve Saitama as a central figure.
Yes he is. A protagonist/main character is the one that makes the key decisions that affect the plot
Wow, tou really can't even get sarcasm, this really speaks a lot about this discussion lmao.
I guess you forgot what we were talking about considering the time you slacked until you replied lol.
I can't believe you are actually explaining how Saitama is the MC, the first half of tour comment made me cringe hard lol.
which character appears more than Saitama in this manga? Who's the main character then if you argue Saitama is not?
All characters except Saitama! lmfao.
I like how you are bringing naruto every bit of time thinking I'm fan of it, but the truth I didn't read the manga and didn't watch even an episode of the anime, you got played hard haha.
Actually the second half of your comment is also cringe, nothing important to reply to as tou are just repeating your words again and again.
And I mean you already lost your argument last time but I'm gonna continue replying, this is fun :)
Wow, tou really can't even get sarcasm, this really speaks a lot about this discussion lmao.
I think it speaks more about your inability to understand writing on the internet. I'm aware you're not actually unsure, I responded to the point of even questioning it sarcastically.
Sorry I don't lurk on Reddit waiting on responses, I have work and a life to take care of before spending some spare time here.
I can't believe you are actually explaining how Saitama is the MC, the first half of tour comment made me cringe hard lol.
Oh so your 12 then. Your entire response on this thread questions why a manga called OPM doesn't have enough of Saitama for you and you cringe from a response to your dumb points?
All characters except Saitama! lmfao.
Thanks for validating for me that you've never read the manga 🤦
I like how you are bringing naruto every bit of time thinking I'm fan of it, but the truth I didn't read the manga and didn't watch even an episode of the anime, you got played hard haha.
Don't like me bringing up Naruto? Don't use it as an argument for talking about titular characters then moron.
You say you want OPM to be more about Saitama, yet your smooth brain can't comprehend that he is literally the most present character in the manga. You bring up Naruto to argue the titling of the manga and and your own idiot self professed you aren't even a fan, despite pretending you knew a thing about either of these shows.
And I mean you already lost your argument last time but I'm gonna continue replying, this is fun :)
Have fun, your saying "cringe this cringe that" is the real fun, you're literally squirming because this entire comment was "no you're wrong" with no argument points and copium for your ego to deal with the fact that you knew nothing of these shows and you can't back out now. Enjoy yourself ;)
I think it speaks more about your inability to understand writing on the internet
That's some projection lol.
Your entire response on this thread questions why a manga called OPM doesn't have enough of Saitama
And you understood from this that I don't think saitama is the MC? hmm something about the "inability to understand' or something idk!
Thanks for validating for me that you've never read the manga
Second arc of "not getting sarcasm" something about "12 years old" could apply here I think :D
Don't like me bringing up Naruto?
Never said that? I absolutely loving this, it made you look very gullible haha.
that he is literally the most present character in the manga
Wow! that's really an achievement, I'm sorry ONE and murata, your mc is appearing 10% of the time meanwhile the rest cast are appearing less than 10% my bad my bad! (Warning: This is sarcasm!)
You bring up Naruto to argue the titling of the manga and and your own idiot self professed you aren't even a fan, despite pretending you knew a thing about either of these shows.
Ah yeah this feeling, my favourite result. seeing you mad after realising how you got played very dirty lmao.
Enjoy yourself ;)
That's what I'm doing, even you can sense that :)