www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/northeast-ohio-cities-are-blocking-new-car-washes-heres-whats-driving-the-backlash
Northeast Ohio cities are blocking new car washes. Here's what's driving the backlash.
It requires very low capital investment to turn a profit and very low staff I assume a bunch will close within 10 years
It’s an expensive thing to run decently though. You’re constantly fighting rust and a lot of heavy mechanical moving parts that are also being eaten away by the detergents.
On top of that you need to find proper ratios and such for detergents, while you’re actively doing detergents a pump will conveniently explode on you. There’s a lot more but they’re a lot of work to keep up with.
(I work corporate for a Carwash chain)
my guess is they will run till the equipment breaks, close down and write it all off
And the busted car wash will then sit in a weed filled lot for decades
run decently though
That's the problem with Ohio businesses.
This isn't unique to Ohio. The article states outright that this is a trend that started in the south and has now reached the midwest.
That's the problem with
OhioAmerican businesses
Fixed.
My cousin owns 3 and says it’s as easy as can be. His 1st one is maybe 8 years old now.
I spent a while doing part of the fabrication work for a car wash chain in my area. Just roughly based on the manhours spent on that job, that's alot of fucking money.
idk I thought most of the new washes are using standard equipment from some vendor that sells turnkey solutions.
It’s a lot to a normal person, but it’s really not the business world.
Is the upkeep cost the same for un-automated car washes? You know like the ones that just have a bunch of open bays with big hoses and high-powered vacuums?
We actually used to have bays and the normal wash that’s automated, but we have started to tear down the bays because they actually don’t make as much money as you think they would when you have an automated wash right next to it. I Imagine that the cost is way lower than an automated car wash, but you also aren’t gonna be bringing in as much as you really think you are. People are only willing to spend a couple dollars if they have to use the pressure washer there’s themselves, which obviously results in lower profit. That’s why we charge almost $30 for our highest wash And less than 20 for our lowest.
I’m not sure what the exact metrics are financially, but you could make $500,000 on an automated wash and spend 200,000 to keep it running or you could make $10,000 on a self-serve car wash but only invest $1000 into keeping it running so it kind of just depends that’s just the dark financially though like I said, I don’t really know anything about the financials
Mike's and other car wash chains have been doing fine for years
As someone inside the biz , is it just that tveryone thinks it's easy money ?
Probably thinking that the self serve ones are relatively passive income. Pay maintenance people to fix/replace things when theyre reported, no other staffing costs, just hope that the income covers the costs
In theory, it makes complete sense, 24 hours people help themselves and you’re just making a couple bucks and all you have to buy is detergent and do some repairs here and there, but people are busy these days and they don’t wanna sit around and spray off their car Unless they like it old-school lol. Personally I don’t blame them lol, there’s also concerns about the cloths inside the tunnels, and I can’t speak on behalf of other companies, but with ours, we have daily checks before opening to make sure everything is working properly and make sure there’s nothing in the cloth before opening and throughout the day the managers have to also do checks while cars are going through to make sure everything is working properly and there’s nothing in the wraps to make sure, no damages caused. It’s pretty elaborate.
Ah, so you have ordered Mr. Quarter's video as well!
100%, most people don’t think about the cost. It takes both financially, environmentally, and physically. Most people think it’s just soap and some water and a couple pressure washers. It’s not that in the slightest lol
Aren't they famously used for money laundering as well?
Automobile laundering as well
Only in Albuquerque
😂
Mr Heisenberg, I presume?
That's my town too. Car washes, Starbucks and vape shops. Our town is roughly 50K people and we have 11 vape shops
That sounds so depressing. Im sorry.
I'm so tired of seeing these eyesores popup everywhere in this city. Someone build something like idk a laser tag place, or just something more useful than another major source of water pollution.
We lost our laser tag place. It’s a fireworks store now.
They mostly recycle the water they use.
[citation needed]
I think you've really hit the nail on the head. Car washes are important. But how many do we really need? Isn't there something better that can go in that location instead? Do we really need another location dumping contaminated water in another piece of land? Granted, there are regulations so I'm hoping it's all safe in the end. But still, enough with the car washes.
They're almost as bad as those money lending shops that jack up the interest rate.
Car washes are not important. They're probably the least important business in a city.
If you live somewhere where they salt the roads in the winter, they're pretty important.
I rarely wash my truck except in winter, but I do that on the few non-freezing days that appear. If they had an "underflush only" option, I'd take that. If they had a "drive through a big freshwater puddle" option, I'd choose that.
I don't care how it looks, but I want that salt removed from the frame. But it's only $8 here, I'd probably reconsider at a higher price.
I can’t understand why people are downvoting you. Salt is a car killer and washes are car savers up here in Cleveland. I would love an undercarriage only clean. I wish I could get an $8 wash, but they all cost $15-20 here in North Olmsted now. We had a $5 wash and Sgt. Clean bought it and jacked up the prices at least 3-4x.
Are you trying to make a Breaking Bad joke or was that an accident?
We had a laser tag place nearby. No one went, and it closed. It's a carwash now.
Personally, I like the car washes. I'd hate to have to drive across town to get a carwash. Plus I can throw away my trash there.
You know a lot of car washes recycle their water? They are an eyesore and necessary
Is it necessary to have 6 within a 2 mile radius?
If they’re busy then it is necessary.
There's a difference between necessary and an oversaturated market. At some point supply exceeds demand and profitability goes down. And our supply is 8 car washes within a 2 mile radius of the 44221 zip code.
And if that’s the case, they’ll go out of business. If it’s not, they’ll stay in business.
Which then creates the problem of a bunch of abandoned car washes in the area. Because unless someone's buying up the land they aren't getting torn down, and repurposing one isn't going to be a cheap investment for local business people. So we then end up with abandoned car washes bringing down property values for the nearby residents. So them going out of business is just as bad for us as it is the owners of the business.
NGL it feels like you're trying really hard to paint this as a big problem when it's kind of insignificant.
How many cars are in that radius?
And how many regularly get their car washed? Just because there's a potential large supply of vehicles doesn't mean there's actual demand for the service. I drive passed a lot of these regularly and you know how often you see anywhere from between 0 and 3 cars at once? Granted that falls in line with confirmation bias.
But according to drb.com a local car wash supplier says an average carwash should process roughly 30k cars annually. Other stats say 66% of car owners wash their cars 1 to 2x a month. Cuyahoga falls has a population of 50,655. So even just taking the population at total value (I mean kids don't own cars but I'm overvaluing for the sake of arguement), thay means 33,423 people would wash their car at least 1x a month. If you assumed they do 2x a month we are at 66,864. Now if the average wash is expected to do 30k cars a year, we need two car washes within the municipal area to service all the expected cars being processed annually.
That being said Google maps actually has 8 car washes within a 2 mile radius of c falls. That's an estimated 240,000 cars expected for processing annually. Almost 4x the expected statistical population of cars based on population count. So how many of these are losing money? How many are going to get shut down and abandoned because that aren't profitable? Also repurposing a car wash facility into something more useful is not really a cheap undertaking so whay happens? When that happens because the market is oversarurdated and we have a bunch of abandoned car washes what do you think will happen to home values due to the eyesore that is a bunch of abandoned car washes?
This is called concern for long run economic viability, not just "oh gotta make quick money as fast as possible." Which is right where these car washes are at, is make money as quick as possible without concern for market supply vs demand.
I think this is the question. I don’t like em but we have em
I’ve never washed my car in my adult life, and it has had zero consequences. The rain washes them just fine. It’s a complete waste of money and resources.
I’d recommend AT LEAST once a year if you really don’t want to wash your car. Salt will eat your car. Just go through an automated wash and ask for whatever has underbody spray.
Throwing some wax on your car (even liquid kind) will also help protect it. Both of these take like 5 minutes at most, and it’ll keep your car from rusting from the salt and paint deteriorating from bird poop
If you live in a state that salts the roads, your car would be junk in 10 years.
It’s important to some people. Some cars have value.
Your car loses value as soon as you sign that paperwork.
No kidding, but not so much on the used market.
Some cars have value.
And other myths the oil industry wants you to believe
All cars have value, but washing or not washing them has zero impact on their value.
I do understand it's important to some people, but I still think it's a waste of money, time and resources.
All cars have value, but washing or not washing them has zero impact on their value.
Washing/waxing keeps the paint in good shape which is important for resale.
We live in the rust belt. Washing the salt off of a car is quite important to prevent it from disintegrating here in Ohio. Not to mention the sap and bird droppings that destroy paint
That’s not why they call it the Rust Belt, but you’re absolutely right about everything else. It’s insane not to wash a car.
Ah crap.. I meant "Salt Belt" but had rust on the brain
Lol yes…we are in the Belt of Salt, with rust the result!
They call this the Rustbelt because of the old rusty factories where our dads and grandpas used to have good union jobs until Ronald Reagan came and took it all away.
The more you know…🌈
Unfortunately the decline began decades before Ronald Reagan took office, with trade policies going back to the 1960s and some really destructively high interest rates in the late 1970s…among other things…but yeah, it was the Steel Belt until it all got scaled back and a bunch of it abandoned to rust out. I wish it only went back to 1981…the 60s weren’t great, but the 70s were really really bad. Our region just got gutted so bad…it makes me sad.
My car (193,000 miles) has not disintegrated yet. None of my cars that I've had since living here have ever had significant rust issues, and I drove them all well past 100,000 miles. It rains a lot around here, and the rain seems to do just as good of a job as the car wash with getting rid of road salt.
You must live in Southern Ohio or your car gets driven high miles and isn’t that old yet. Trust me, up north of US-30 and especially around Cleveland, your car would be a whole new color underneath without keeping it washed through the winter and spring. Every part under your car will rust through and you’ll end up needing a new car around 100k. You seriously extend the life of your body and chassis if you keep it clean. It’s not as useless as you think. Even getting the bug guts off the hood of your vehicle will save the paint and prevent a lot of rust.
Hard to say that it's a waste of time and money when you live somewhere that uses salt and brine on the roads....
I do live somewhere like that, and I've driven every car I've had until it's well over 100,000 miles (current vehicle has 193,000), and never had issues with the body rusting out. There's always been some other reason to junk the car due to some other mechanical issue before rust becomes a problem.
Then you've gotten incredibly lucky. I've literally never heard of a single person that has put 100k miles on a car, didn't wash it and had no rust issues if it is exposed to salt.
They are obviously lying or have never looked underneath their car.
yeah taking care of and maintaining one of the most expensive things you own is totally a stupid waste of time.
What?! You don't want to have a shiny car? /s
Stow is known for its car washes and Mexican restaurants. I am waiting for a Mexican car wash to pop up
I'm waiting for a car wash that gives you a burrito instead of a disgusting smelling air freshener.
Now that’s something I would pay for !
Eat yer tacos while going thru the car wash!
Brilliant idea👍🏼
Come to VA.
It's weird. First thing I noticed was a total lack of self zer e car eashez and an over abundance of automated car washes, with plenty of Hispanic attendants
Have you not watched Breaking Bad?
It's a way to put something up quick that makes a little bit of profit while you sit on the real estate for speculation purposes
Same thing happened in Toledo the last few years or so. A bunch of them popped up, seemingly out of nowhere
What’s the unofficial city website?
It's a land hold with cash flow.
That actually makes sense, from a business perspective. Unfortunately a lot of those businesses fail, and the community is stuck with an eyesore for decades.
In Elyria we have a problem with crappy chain restaurants opening and almost immediately closing and then the empty restaurant sits there for a millennia. With a Cushman/Wakefield sign out front.
It has a lot to do with the fact that many now operate on a subscription model. It is way easier to turn a profit from someone who is on a subscription vs someone who isn’t. Their costs are fairly inexpensive after the initial startup cost. What does it really cost them to wash a car? A few dollars? It’s mainly just soap, water, and electricity for costs to wash a car. It’s a fraction of the monthly charge. Which was always true, but now people are on subscriptions and guarantee that the car wash will receive that $30 every month whether you wash your car or not. How many times will you wash your car in a year? You think it’s going to cost that car wash $360 for all the times you wash your car in a year? Nope. Lots of profit there. Especially in winter when folks aren’t washing their cars much and they forget to cancel the subscription
New laundry mats are pushing that subscription model as well. Rip offs. You have to be careful what you buy online these days, too. A lot of makeup companies will put you on a subscription these days if you don’t read the fine print.
Same on the other end of the State, they are all over the place in Butler county
Yep, up in Mason on Kings Mills there are three that have popped up over the last year. Two across the street from each other and a third down the road about a mile. Hoped for cool things and got car washes
Zanesville has had 5 pop up in the last few years and all are packed every day. The dealerships use them to wash new cars as they come off the transport truck. Much faster than paying an employee to wash them by hand.
In my neck of the woods (south of Dayton), getting a new Sheetz is all the rage. You just gotta have one! (sarcasm…)
We have Sheetz everywhere in the NE as well. Nice place, I can’t afford, but I like their business model and their gas stations aren’t eyesores.
I'm not sure if we've banned new ones yet in Cuyahoga Falls, but if not, we really need to. There's too many!
You didn’t watch Breaking Bad?
The Breaking Bad effect.
Meth dealers laundering money
Probably money laundering
Next it will be weed dispensaries.
I would be careful being too specific with where you live on here. Fucking psychos on reddit
Money laundering.
They replaced the self serve yogurt shops
And all the Rite Aids that are closing left and right.
Thank God!!! Worst store ever. Their cashiers always looked like they were being held prisoner, too.
Woah woah woah there are self serve yogurt shops?
Menchies for example.
There is a cashier that weighs your cup after you fill it.
Ohhhh okay. That makes more sense. Still lightly staffed then. I was thinking like completely automated lol
That’s sounds like a one way ticket to a 20 dollar cup of yogurt 🤣
I used to end up with a 25$ salad from the Whole Foods salad bar because of my love of marinated artichoke hearts.
Do vape shops next
Okay, business model: Combination car wash/head shop/beauty supply. We move into old video store footprints. With all the dollar stores closing, we'll be the #1 retailer in Ohio in 5 years!
Throw a vape store in there, and I'll be in.
Are head shops not vape stores? Genuine question.
I think it's a Venn Diagram situation. Not all head shops are vape stores, but all vape stores are head shops.
E Cig vapes
While you drive through the car wash, you are ordering your weed and hair dye? They bag it and run it out to you when you come out the end of the car wash? I... kind of love it... I'm high, my grays are covered, and my fucking car is clean!
😆🤣😂👍
Notice how every car wash is trying to sell you a subscription plan? That’s why. They finally figured out a model that works.
It’s the Planet Fitness business model.
As someone who works in the IT side of the industry and has had hands on work with those Automatic recharge plans that’s exactly how it works.
A site could have $30 dollar unlimited monthly plan for their $15 wash. You would have to wash your car twice a month to get your money’s worth. If you wash your car that often it’s a good deal. The car wash is guaranteed that money regardless of if you wash. And on top of that the chemical cost per wash is less than a buck.
It’s a license to print money.
It was great when my 3 year old wanted to go through the carwash literally every single day lmao
The one group in ohio been offering $50/ 60 gift cards half price. Not a bad deal for basically half priced washes without a subscription.
Currently do uber so I did get a plan on that car and run through daily.
TBF I wish more offered a subscription.
I don't go to the brush washes and the only decent touchless wash anywhere near me (in a bigger Cleveland-area suburb) charges $18-20 for their higher-end wash options and has no subscription.
I usually take one of our vehicles once a month, maybe twice/mo during the winter. The other car only gets washed occasionally since we rarely take it out. But I'd gladly just pay $30-35/mo for unlimited washes and take both of them once a week.
There are four in a one mile stretch near me, and a fifth one is being built as I type this.
Well stop typing!
Mahoning Ave in Austintown??
Ding ding ding! Give that man a cigar!!!
Absolutely bonkers that they're putting another car wash there. Plus the Meijers, traffic is stupid enough.
Money laundering. The strip clubs are gone, so gambling and car washes.
No strip clubs? WTF?
RIP Lido
A lot of Walter Whites out there…
Same thing happening in Columbus, lotta new car washes. I mean, the Moo Moo washes are always backed up out to the street on sunny weekend days, maybe we needed a couple more, but let's not get carried away w/it.
Cops need to actually enforce traffic violations and ticket people that are obstructing the road at the Sawmill one. It doesn't matter how badly you need your car washed, it's still not legal to just sit in the road and block traffic waiting for room in the parking lot. Morons sit blocking the side road AND around the corner blocking Sawmill Rd as well, frequently.
Nobody knows how to drive. Period. Go watch the clusterf%$k at school drop/pickups!
We have 3 within a half mile of each other in tiny little Canal Winchester. Like. We don't really need 3 car washes here lol
I don’t know how true this is, but someone told me car washes are basically ways to claim prime real estate. You make a little money and camp on the land until it’s worth more, then sell. I haven’t seen any of them sold, though…
Not really. Car Washes just make a lot of money. They’re one of the few industries that did well during the recession and the pandemic.
After the initial cost of building or buying an existing site the operational costs are pretty low and the mark up on the washes are extremely high.
I work in the IT side of the industry so I have some experience with this stuff.
That goes along with what he said though. They’re low cost. So you can open one and even if you don’t make that much money you still get to sit on the real estate at a low cost
And storage units.
We need a Land Value Tax to discourage this crap.
They are squeezing them into established parking lots in the Kettering/Centerville area and its terrible. There's a starbucks right by 675 that has a parking lot which is now completely inoperable cuz they built a wash in it. They cut our Meijer parking lot down to put another one in, which they had the space for but we cant handle driving in parking lots as it is let alone one with a car wash sized blind spot. I hope everywhere does this, these are awful for cars anyway.
That parking lot is a MESS. That whole triangle and Meijer area was very poorly planned and it’s so congested and dangerous.
Toledo area has had several built this year. In a particular area near Maumee there are at least 5 in a one mile radius. I wish whoever approves these things would open their eyes and use more common sense.
I believe that the Toledo area has more car washes per capita than any other metro area.
They're building a brand new one squeezed between Cinco de Mayo and Menard's on Airport. There's one a quarter mile away that's been there for decades.
Just wait two more are coming… 🫠🫠
Strong car washes for the strongest town
Youngstown area has way too many. They just keep getting built.
ModWash has popped up in just about every suburb of Youngstown/Warren in the 2 years it’s crazy
In lake county whenever they start construction on something my wife and I play “car wash or auto parts store/oil change spot”
There needs to also be a way to make all these businesses ( car wash, drug store/dollar store type) take their purpose built structures with them if they close down within a certain timeframe. They leave them behind to sit empty for years.
I completely agree with this. They should have to put money in a trust or something so when they fail or move there are funds o demo the building. But taxpayers will just tear then down at their expense.
Family dollar did this in my neighborhood, built a new store like a block away and the old store just sits there all dilapidated. It's disgusting.
Money laundering?
You would think with the classic cash business model, but they're saying in this article it's the subscription model that's fueling growth, hitting people up $30 every month rain or shine on the credit card, like a gym you don't use.
I work in the car wash industry on the IT side and the automatic recharge plans are a license to print money.
The wash itself only costs the car wash less than a buck in chemicals. The car wash the article mentions the wash for the $30 plan is $20 bucks so you have to wash twice a month to get your money’s worth and that’s not factoring any of the add ons.
The car wash is guaranteed to bring in money regardless of if you wash or not.
Stupidity and fiscal incompetence must be punished. However it doesn’t matter what the article says - I firmly believe that the entire business is a perfect ground for money washing.
My husband was trying to find a business to park some money in and he kept thinking about a car wash (I hated that idea so don't yell at me about it). The selling point is it's cheap to start, open 24 hours a day, and a person doesn't need to be there. We def don't do anything fun enough to require the laundering of our money lol
I work in the IT side of the industry and Car washes make really good money. The biggest issue is always the initial cost of building or buying an existing site. But the operation costs are pretty low and the mark up on the washes is extremely high. Hell, the monthly automatic recharge plans is basically a license to print money.
Ding ding ding 🛎️
From articles I’ve read before one thing real estate experts say is that these car wash chains are basically a business front for a private equity firm to buy prime real estate land or real estate they speculate will be valuable in a few years, build their brick and mortar business utilizing the tax incentives available like the article mentioned, get as many subscribers as they can regardless of their use, then when the real estate has got to a high price point because the area is greatly expanding they shut down, write off most of the cost by using business loopholes, then sell the real estate for 10x what it was bought for.
Latest money laundering business.
Breaking Bad inspiring a run on car washes is hilarious.
How many car washes do we need? What happened to letting the market decide this? Too much with the busy body small town Karen's, and petty little officials. Old guard businesses are now all too often vacant buildings or lots. Let a viable business come in, and it's generating taxes, it's providing a service, it's providing employment, and driving traffic RIGHT BY the adjacent businesses and restaurants and so on. That's right, I said it, and I don't care if it gets me negative points or not.
What happened? The cartel watched breaking bad and thought carwash,great laundry. Now they all make their initial investment cost every 6 months.
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I believe that’s called a driveway
theres been an insane amount of new carwashes popping up around cleveland
kinda like the influx of dollar stores that are now closing except these buildings will be even less lucrative for resale and unusable.
I manage an automated carwash and on average we wash 1000 cars a day. It honestly depends on the brand and the amount of work put into it. A company has to be willing to go with the changes in the industry. We recycle vast amounts of water and control a lot of our costs. But I do agree I’ve seen a saturation in the market. I’ve seen brand new washes build down the road from well established ones and struggle to maintain business. The company I work for is very big on buying old washes or pre existing buildings that can be repaired and rebranded.
I live in Pittsburgh. I’ve been to many different states and to this DAY Ohio has had the most I’ve ever seen. Phoenix is 2nd but still doesn’t come CLOSE to Ohio.
There's MooMoos all over Columbus. The subscription is ridiculous. $360 for a year and they aren't even touch less. So anyone that works a farm or went mudding over the weekend. All that mess gets dragged all over your car if you're after them. No way I'd take my car to one. I do touch-less or wash it myself. Get it detailed once a year. Which still puts me under the subscription. We aren't in the south. 5 months out of the year the weather is shit
It's no surprise the automatic car wash trend started in the South and West. Dovetails nicely with the growth of HOAs prohibiting homeowners from hand washing their vehicles in their driveways.
As for why more people are patronizing car washes, its not so much that they care more about how their vehicles look but the opportunities and willingness to hand wash their vehicles at home are declining. In addition to HOAs and the growing perception of driveway washing as unseemly behavior in suburbia; the growing market share of tall, high-roofed vehicles also factor because they take more effort to hand wash. It's no surprise that dirt-hiding grays and silvers as vehicle colors are more popular than ever.
But where will I get my paint worn down at if they dont let any more spring up just to close a year later?
IMO, brushed car washes suck.
Laserwash FTW.
All of those car washes appear to be moving to Toledo.
I suppose it’s better than continued blight, but there’s a reason these are showing up everywhere in the country.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-02-21/car-washes-are-taking-over-the-us-here-s-why
Coin-operated car washes are exempt from collecting and paying sales tax; and sales tax makes up a big part of many counties incomes. In addition, the model of combining real estate with the car wash business offers write off benefits that reduce the tax due for the owners (so less local and federal tax.) And the owners - well there are 50+ national investment groups building chains everywhere, so it might not be local families. And the bigger the location, the less employees per area, if any.
So the sad part is that it’s not the best business model for the use of the space, but I suppose it’s better than an empty lot or abandoned building, because nothing else is coming in. I guess it’s good for the owners for a while.
Maybe people don’t like them because it’s a recognition that the community is going downhill.
Visited my family in Ohio recently for the first time in a few years and I was like driving around with my dad and every new construction i would get excited and be like “wow what are they building here?” and my dad would be like “car wash”.
When there was already a car wash like less than a mile away.
The backlash is that there’s one every 5 traffic lights.
Here in Zanesville they've built like 4 in the last few years and they're clearing out a lot to build another one less than a mile away from another one. Between them and dollar generals it's getting ridiculous.
Block em all! I’m in mentor on the lake and they’re getting ready to open a car wash where an old rite aid used to be. Literally a stone’s throw from a Zappy’s
Walter White owned a car wash.
We have one that ran off the local food truck community, then never opened. It had been an abandoned Banner Mattress. Food trucks gathered in the parking lot every Thursday, it was a great time!
It's sitting there, fully equipped...and rotting.
It finally opened a couple of weeks ago.
They finally raised some scratch? Surprising!
I hope a sinkhole opens up and swallows it overnight. I'm still salty over the loss of the food truck gathering. We have too many car washes
Ahh. So this is a Ohio thing then. I’m in toledo and there are constantly new car washes being opened.
I think I could get to 10 in 5 mins or less
Lorain County—Home of the new car washes!!!
Haven’t we all learned from Breaking Bad? The best way to launder money is thru a car wash, duh.
some of the names are genuinely comical. theres a new chain called Sgt. Clean near me, like Mr. Clean went to Iraq, came back with PTSD and is now invested in carwashes.
There’s a intersection I drive by sometimes that will have one on each corner when they finish building the last one and like a mile or 2 down from it there already building more I really don’t know why you would need so many so close together
TBH, I think the push to stop car washes, is to keep out a certain demographic. I hope that’s not the case, but I have a gut feeling about it.
I'd wish they'd block new huge gas stations
Sheetz or Casey or whatever
That reminded me of a story. Sheetz near our local bar paid like $250K for that spot. This old guy had an opportunity to buy that lot cheap like, 10 years ago. Now it's all he ever talks about - complaining that he didn't buy that land and get paid the $250K.
Like yo
When a plot is for sale, anyone can buy it. We should all be mad we didnt buy that plot of land😅
Yeah, hindsight is 2020. But you do have to pay taxes even if the property is undeveloped.
Subscriptions for car washes? What a joke. Only chumps would fall for that.
Good, close t hem down. MAGA wants to go back, so g o back to washin g your car the old fashioned way.
They need to spend more money on dispensaries and less on car washes
Went to a new one recently and I made the mistake of going through the full wash. Gouged the rims of my new car
A top quality car wash will draw people from many miles away. They are not restricted to the people living in the city they are built in.
Hire many do you need in a ten mile radius, one?
Any word on tattoo parlors on every block?
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Maybe I missed it in the article but is there a reason why they've been popping up like weeds? I know here in Cuyahoga Falls we have several and they came very quickly. There's been jokes on the unofficial city website that whenever development starts somewhere it's going to be a car wash.