UPDATE [probably] tomorrow - Things that matter now - From the beta

Seems legit. Hahaha

Rectum? Damn near killed-um

I smell a rat! No wait... a gerbil!

Something odd about that but I can't quite put my finger on it.

From what I have gathered until now from the sub and several YouTube videos, I haven’t tested it myself: no, the storage units are completely separate to ship cargo on all fronts.

The storage units are basically just normal storage units, like they were before the update, but now you can place bigger ones on ships. For example, engineering bays already had a 150 (I think) chest in them which was its own separate storage space that didn’t count towards ship calculations whatsoever.

This means that everything put into these is also not available to sell to vendors unless it’s on your player inventory or distinct ship inventory.

Containers outside of cargo don't have the universal access feature for crafting and sale. What they do, though, is let you reserve your cargo for resources and vendor trash.

Ammo has weight, and so I have an empty armory filled with ammo containers where I can store my stash. Once I fill a container type, any excess goes for sale (because I'm obviously not using it). I have 1,666 rounds of .27, which is plenty if I find a good legendary Sidestar that I want to try. It's probably overkill, though, so the container keeps my hording in check.

I have mounting plates for interesting named weapons I come across, like Sir Livingstone's Pistol or Peacemaker.

Note that items never actually effect the weight of your ship. Cargo containers have mass as if full, even if they have nothing in them. It's a simplification measure for calculating ship statistics. I'm actually OK with it as a reasonable break between playability and realism. While, in theory, having to jettison or stash cargo before a battle to improve your maneuverability would make sense, it could get very tedious over time given the number of hostile space encounters you can have.

You can't die from hunger or thirst but you can from some conditions on the highest affliction settings.

I like to go low carry weight, high vendor money. It means they can usually buy my entire stock when I hit them up, but that I have to be choosy about what I bring back with me or take out with me.

like having to hydrate every 30 minutes, so waiting for vendors to restock can kill you, apparently

It says above dehydration causes a debuff, nothing about death? All the options are configurable so I don't think you need to worry about that.

Not spoiled, that’s just how you enjoy the game. My games in general (not just starfield) usually end up on the less harsh side if I’m given options. Nothing wrong with that, it’s a hobby for fun. I swear if Reddit commenters represented the majority of players there would be no difficulty sliders, only ultra super hardo mode.

That's an interesting point. If in sleep or wait, what happens to the need to eat and drink? Can't expect everyone to wake up from sleep almost dead from dehydration?

Can’t make everyone happy, I suppose. Perhaps in time they’ll add more options to make more people happy, but it’s understandable that they have finite time and resources and wanted to make sure that the final product is as appealing to as many people as possible.

I’m of the mind that playtesters have a certain way of playing games, and you can’t playtest for ultra survivalists fresh off a modded Skyrim lol. I love that the data points were left in for either group to take up the mantle and I think the community can figure out what they want survival to look like in full

Even Todd said before it was removed or maybe was same interview that starfield is their hardest game yet. And u had to really plan stuff out.

But let's be real as much as I and others would love that (true survival with fuel etc..) vast majority would hate it if it was core to the game. Which sounds like it kinda was a core thing to game and then got removed.

It's obvious from a lot of systems in the game that this was the design and it sucks that it isn't the game we got. It's hard to say how well it would have been received, maybe worse considering that I don't believe a system as hardcore as that would have mass market appeal.

I love the game, but I want to play the survival version of Starfield and hope that their vision is realized in some kind of survival mode down the line.

I have a mod on pc that adds fuel back in, it’s tons of fun.

I think we’ve seen what happens when you refuse to launch until it’s all perfect looks at Star Citizen

It would be an interesting feature for some, but isn’t at all necessary to have a good time. Maybe it’ll come, maybe it won’t. If it does come they probably needed more time to sort out how it works, prevent softlocking, figure out how to refuel, etc

They could have taken another 6 years and the hate brigade would have found reasons to hate the game. That's what they do. Brigade and hate.

Oh, go pick up some clutter, why don't you?

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Of lesser utility than other items, maybe, but not every flower needs to go into a potion, if you catch my meaning.

Every update done to every game should have been at launch. Every single game launches in BETA state nowadays for obvious reasons. If you view it from the POV that once the last update comes out it's the "real release", you won't be disappointed anymore.

The ammo still weighs next to nothing. It really just encourages you to use only 3 or so guns and sell or store you unused rounds periodically. But you can toggle whichever options you want.

I'd even like to see another level of it with ammo weighing a lot more and then have automatic weapons not do less damage than semi of the same cartridge.

I’m so torn. I like the challenge.

But so many weapons TEAR through ammo. But that forces you to be thoughtful of what you bring, where you bring it, and who you use it on…and I like that.

Well slap my ass and call me a masochist!

^{Please...and hard...}

Use it on a melee build, free XP buff with no downside.

Well because it gives you an xp boost. That’s the primary trade off for selecting options that make the game harder in the new settings. I think I’m gonna do it in my next playthrough. I am also going to of course be putting my carry weight at the maximum though lol. 

Someone replied earlier it should br around 1pm eastern. Let's hope

They did no such thing AFAIK. Do you have a source?

Unless a new statement came out that I'm unaware of, they didn't actually promise a survival mode. They promised survival mechanics, which this update has done. Would be disappointing if this is the end of that, almost can't imagine that to be the case, but it is a possibility.

We still need the fuel mechanic, complete eating and drinking mechanic, and sleeping mechanic at least. Hope they add this next month.

When did they say there would be a survival mode?

They never said that— “there will be survival mechanics”, and these are survival mechanics, and imo there’s not a whole lot they could add (and they’re not adding anything new survival-wise anyway)

They never officially referred to it that way because they expected people to have the sense to make the connection, I imagine

Is it possible with the system to remove the bullet sponge at high level post-unity? I basically want to make it so I'm squishy and so are the enemies so that combat is equally lethal both ways? I don't like scaling enemies to the degree it works in Starfield. I just want everything to be deadly and a gun is a gun that can kill things readily.

Yeah, I think for me it's just the principle of the matter that the vendor credits are too low, and there very well could be people who don't realize that you can change it in options, I know I wouldn't have thought to look in the options for it.

But I also didn't play around with them much. I increased the credits and set sleep to safe places only to offset the xp difference.

No, sorry. Had two subs on screen, tapped the wrong one. Just ignore it, thanks.

So am I and have since october. Love it!