You can pick ones not pictured as well (like Orochimaru, Kaguya, etc…)
For real! That’s a suicide mission and they’re mad he survived. I would’ve ripped their hearts out too after being assigned a mission like that.
Kakuzu's backstory is pretty wild. Being sent on a mission to kill Hashirama is basically a death sentence
Actually what they wanted. Either he dies to Hashirama or gets executed for failing the mission. However, they didn't take into account that Kakazu was not going to take that lying down.
He legally gambled and lost because he was set up by the house. Yeah I'd crash out too
1 arm of hashirama's wooden gundam mech 1000 arm monstrosity would no diff kakazu 🤣 wtf were they thinking.
Yea shit is fucked up, he had no chance 💀🙏
I mean he was still a really nasty and cruel assassin. Gaara was just a kid who had never been to sleep and whose family absolutely hated him. Gaara was borderline insane, Kakuzu was just a criminal who got the short end of the crime straw
His village told him to do it how does that make him a criminal if hes following orders
He had a better reason to be like this and do the things he did then the other members of akastuki
Kisames reason to kill:i want a world without lies
Itachi:brother...
Hidan:religous fanatic
Deidara:i want to make things boom
Pain:peace (nukes a village full of innocent)
Konan:she likes pain (wtf)
Obito: just fuck this asshole seriously....the fact that a person like him gets a happy end makes me vormit
Madara:peace also madara: loves fighting and laughs his ass of while flexing his powers
Danzo:i don't even know why he did the things he did (hated hiruzen maybe ?)
Kakuzu was blant but easily not as cartonish evil or broken hero whatever like the rest of the villains
Pains was most realistic. If you grow up in his circumstances from an early child you’re obviously going to have some mental problems going on and might not have the most societally accepted thought processes. It’s like war orphans growing up to be terrorists. It’s not good but it’s more than understandable and in pains case he still wanted peace and not revenge.
Kakuzu. He's not a villain, just a businessman.
Bro got hoed so hard by his village
Got sent to kill the literal God of Shinobi and when he fails he gets the boot. How was bro supposed to win
The fact he lived is a feat in its own
Considering Hashirama's personality it doesn't feel like such a miracle.
Kakazu: "Stonks"
Businessmen are villains
? What’s the difference
A mercenary that kills other shinobi is what they all do they’re just mad he doesn’t do it for a village
insert business is booming meme
Now Im imagining a kakazu deidara partnership
Facts 😅
I feel like a solid percentage of fan don’t actually know why Orochimaru is the way he is, like he really didn’t just wake up and decide to be evil one day the dude watched one of his best friends lose basically everyone they loved in less than a year and couldn’t do anything to stop it and that was after his parents died and being mostly raised by Hiruzen (we all know how well that probably worked out) and yeah he’s still absolutely a monster and a freak but like there was a pipeline there was a turning point
Iirc all of Orochimaru’s character is defined by his thirst of knowledge. The moment that changed him into a p*do sharingan hunting snaky bastard is when he accessed the forbidden jutsus room. That’s the moment he realized he didn’t know shit and that he could never achieve such knowledge in a normal human lifespan. So he decided to do anything in his power to extend his lifespan (meaning grooming little kids to eventually possess their bodies). Then he decided to hunt sharingan users, which would give him the possibility to assimilate at a much faster pace. I don’t think his traumas have a lot to do with his evil actions
His trauma is what caused him to switch from just looking for knowledge to doing whatever it takes, if there was no war, if he didn’t watch firsthand Tsunade lose her brother and lover he wouldn’t have gone down that path
Basically, Anakins entire trip to the dark side was driven by a thirst for knowledge in order to save padme from dying both of y’all could very well be right
No, Anakin was driven by a thirst for power. Anakin is closer to Pain
Darth Plagueis would be a more accurate comparison to Orochimaru
people think orochimarus as evil as doflamingo or aizen and js started out as evil as them nowadays 💀🙏 nobody talks about the points you js made which are great points. he couldn't do anything to stop nawaki from dying, and couldn't stop tsunade from learning about the loss of her brother, as well as her loss of dan, where he legit watched as her ah was struggling on the field tryna revive ts man she was prolly gonna marry. like he had a heart until he saw what having a heart did to mfs, that's why he wanted to unlock every mysterious jutsu and secrets to humanity, to bring about immortality so ppl couldn't die anymore 💀they js needa rewatch the show before stating dumb opinions
Bad example, Doflamingo is also a pure product of his upbringing ^^
When he arrived on the Earth, he asked where the slaves were, not out of curiosity but he wanted that, even when they explained to him, he didn't care and wanted slaves for him.
And ?
He just doesn't care about retiring the well being of everyone for his own.
people have lost their kids and spouse in a single accident before but they didnt become Hitler from that
Not much of a counter argument. People process things differently and if magic was a thing I’m sure more people would seek it out in times of pain.
Totally agree. I think later in the show we get to see some Orochimaru in a different light. He is grossly misunderstood. Doesn't excuse what he did though.
im sure like 99% of the fandom missed out on what made orochimaru tick.
in a flashback with hiruzen we get an inkling behind his motivations but kishimoto just abandons orochimarus storyline for other villains.
in the flashback with hiruzen, mourning the death of his parents, they find a snake to which hiruzen tells him that they are born anew when they shed their skin. and hiruzen talks about reincarnation. orochimaru takes that info to mean immortality, and by his parents grave we could infer that he thinks his parents may come back a next life as other people so he pursued immortality+knowledge so that he may live to see his parents again.
my memory is hazy, so i might be missing some details and exactly how the conversation between oro and hiruzen went, but that's the gist of it.
when he kills hiruzen he even sheds a tear and by then he was already deep into his dark path. but he still felt something there.
unfortunately the storyline becomes so uchiha focused we lose orochimaru's plot and we get a half baked redemption without ever getting a true reveal for why he wanted to do this bc it wasn't just about power and immortality.
he is a monster and he deserved to die the way a villain should. not be welcomed back into society around children he would have experimented on not even too long ago.
orochimaru was one of the coolest characters in naruto and kishimoto handled him poorly.
I think Hiruzen calmed Orochimaru down by talking about reincarnation. However, when the next war began and Orochimaru saw how he was killing a bunch of people, how his comrades were being killed, how his comrades were suffering from the loss of loved ones, he simply decided that it was useless to wait for some possible reincarnation in the future if they were suffering in the present. And I think that is why Orochimaru began to seek the path to immortality, absolute power and knowledge.
And if you don’t know how good a parent Hiruzen is, just look at how badly he neglects Naruto after Minato and Kushina’s deaths.
Clearly he was set up to fall
Deidara. Free my homeboy. Idgaf he was picking fights with kids and crazy. I could fix him!!!!!
he became a terrorist just because he could...
(I also want to fix him, what an I say. his dub voice is so hot.)
Roger Craig Smirh FTW
hes such a sweet guy too like i love that man hes so cheerful and kind. when i met him he like held my scythe and drew mouths on sticky notes to put on our hands
Well and also didn’t they just kinda force him to join. I could be wrong and would love more info if ppl got it. I knew he was fucking shit up, but like, if I recall he didn’t have a choice when it came to joining the Akatsuki since Itachi beat his ass. Always kinda felt bad for Deidara I can’t lie 😂
I wanna know what them hands are capable of 😏
but the teeth...
Sasuke. Takes a special kind of idiot to literally question how Sasuke could "dare" go against Itachi's will to protect Konoha and be okay with the village genociding their clan.
Sasuke isn't misunderstood. His motive and reasoning is very well spelled out for the audience. He just isn't liked because like you basically said, a lot of fans don't like that he just didn't take the L (his brother being manipulated into murdering their people by Konoha).
I wish, but people legit DON'T get Sasuke's actions.
Even back in part 1, they DON'T the notion of Sasuke being tortured, or Sasuke's trauma, or anything for why Sasuke would lash out against Naruto and Sakura, or feel like leaving the village.
Just as they also did not get why Sasuke learning the truth would turn against Konoha and think he should have followed Itachi's will.
How do people miss the plain obvious?
I never agreed with people calling him emo and whiny and a crybaby. He was 100% justified in his reaction and wanting to burn konoha.
He was justified, and is my favorite character, but his goal since episode one has always contradicted the will of fire which is the central theme and point of the series lol.
He had an understandable motive but he wasn’t justified
i mean everything up until the point where he wanted to kill everyone in konoha was justified. Like all the elders and people who played a part in itachi’s suffering, sure kill them, and anyone who got in his way, sure why not kill them. But he literally said he wants to kill the whole village because everyone is enjoying what itachi sacrificed his life for, people who were just as clueless as he was not even a week or whatever before. Like i get it when something like that happens and ur whole perception switches just like that, you lose all sense of right and wrong, but to me making sasuke say “I’m going to destroy the leaf” just takes away from the complexity of his character. Like it just seems cheap for the way his arc was going. It just makes for a much more interesting concept if sasuke still keeps his ideals of not killing the innocent while hating everyone who had a hand in itachis demise. But i guess that doesn’t raise the stakes like wanting to go boom boom to the leaf
Same. It's so stupid, but somehow, there are stupid people in the world who think that way.
Or they do get it but they just don't agree with it. Like me.
He just isn't liked because like you basically said, a lot of fans don't like that he just didn't take the L (his brother being manipulated into murdering their people by Konoha).
Yeah.... he definitely should take the L... not like his family was murdered or anything....
It’s not that we don’t like him not “taking the L”, it’s that his response is, instead of taking out the people directly responsible for it, he wants to kill and hurt people who had nothing to do with it.
He wants to destroy the village because it is what the village did to him. Sasuke is still completely a bad guy at this point in relation to Naruto and it's a completely reasonable reaction from him.
Just when he was going to get his revenge for everything around him being destroyed he learns that it was actually the village all along. All that happens is his hate for Itachi shifts to Konoha, and the village system, in general.
Honestly the weirdest thing in all this is Itachi thinking that wouldn't happen.
Which people that had nothing to do with konoha and its military that he hurt? Can you name one?
You gotta remember he was shunned by the people of Konoha as well. Although they knew he was a victim, no one treated him with actual care. So the village that cost his families life also abandoned him. This would make Sasuke think no one cared that the Uchiha got wiped out.
Like Gaara did in Part 1 when he literally stated that killing random people is what makes him feel alive? Why don't you hate him as well?
He js
This. Naruto fandom has such trash reading comprehension, media literacy and subhuman IQ that you have to spell clear cut context to them. One that's SPELLED OUT in canon. And still they don't GET the character.
“Subhuman Iq”
……..😐
Most naruto YouTube reactors are like that: Boldcast, Suzy Lu, RTTV, The Normies, iShinobi, Heiusten, etc
Don't even get me started on Boldcast.
Ep 475 "Manifestation of his hatred" like huh????
It's not so much his reasoning but who he's targeting. With his actions, for the most part, he targets those responsible, sure. But all the shit he talks just makes him seem like a psycho who's willing to kill everyone and anyone who gets in his way and otherwise, including Kakashi, Sakura, and Naruto, which makes him no better than the people who orchestrated the clan's genocide. And I think that's what gets the most hate, and his path to get revenge and the means he's willing to undertake for it feels like it changes a lot. I think Sasuke would have been good to have a clearer redefining of his goals and path there after Itachi dies, because he's kinda all over the place and becomes very chaotic until he reigns it in during the war arc.
Nope. They very much didn't get his reasoning. They don't. They didn't ever think that the genocide was that bad. They didn't think the torture was that bad. They legit undermined the trauma.
Someone speaking about killing everyone is equal to people who orchestrated in the clan's genocide? Are you sure ? Not like Kakashi and Sakura weren't willing to kill Sasuke. And why were they willing to kill Sasuke ? For leaving Konoha ?
Sasuke was very much clear and defined, he wanted revenge, he went after Danzo and then wanted to destroy Konoha? What wasn't clear or over the place ?
Yup. This ALl OvEr tHe PlAcE has become a shitty and pathetic excuse for people who either have ass reading comprehension, media literacy, and general ability to connect dots, OR they just like to feign ignorance and handwave the fact that sakura and kakashi specifically went to KILL sasuke. Kakashi literally spelled it out to sasuke that he was there to kill him. THRICE! Why should sasuke not consider them a threat and retaliate? Kakashi also brushed the genocide under the rug during his convo with obito. He literally didn't care that sasuke was tortured and put through genocide. Sakura backed him up. Naruto wanted to drag him back to the SAME village that created systematic oppression of his clan and then murdered everyone.
ALL of that is simply handwaved away to paint sasuke as some kind of psycho who just wanted to take the lives of their "well meaning" former comrades, the very same comrades who didn't think genocide was a big deal, who brushed it under the rug, and then went to him with the full intent of taking his life IF he didn't comply with their demands to head back to the military establishment that destroyed his life and his clan. Shit is just disgusting at this point as no well meaning and decent people would side with the establishment who murders people en masse over rebellion. The fact that kakashi and sakura stood on that side? That alone makes them legit targets to be taken down. Same for naruto.
Point is that Kishimoto did a bad job, he wanted to establish Naruto and Itachi to such an extend that it automatically degraded Sasuke, he showed them as main figures for the Will of Fire and the whole story justified the genocide of the Uchihas, including the most kind hearted Shinobi like Hashirama, he was dick riding Itachi when he heard about the genocide. Tobi portrayed the whole Uchiha massacre like Itachi was doing some service to the Shinobi world, most people use Obito's assumption about the coupe as literal outcome if Uchihas wouldn't have been massacred.
And Naruto is a special kind of nutcase, that guy believes Obito is the coolest even after knowing what he has done to his parents and the reason for his childhood to be ruined, Sasuke was actually right when he told Naruto that he doesn't understands the pain of what it is to lose someone as he started without anyone.
Kakashi and sakura went to take his life. Naruto wants to drag him back to the village. It's perfectly fine for sasuke to attack them and remove them from his way. None of this is ALl oVeR tHe PlaCe.
Sasuke
people call him a cry baby and an emo out of spite, in reality he one of the better characters in naruto and his story arc is absolute gas.
I beg people to stop looking at Naruto through naruto’s perspective and see Sasuke is fighting the trauma that was pushed on to him. He can’t deny it, it haunts him everyday, and as long as itachi is alive it will always persist. Itachi showing up at the hotel to hurt Naruto, Kakashi, and be put in that tsukuyomi shows that he can’t escape it. I completely understand why he did what he did and i applaud him for the balls. His story top 3 no contest.
It’s funny how people constantly demand characters with the nuance that are complex and hate goody two shoes characters but love Naruto and hate Sasuke
i'd say danzo yes I don't like him either but kis literally designed him to be disliked and from his own character he just wanted to protect konaha
No way a man wanting to protect his home would just stand back and watch a terrorist level it completely. That’s insane. Danzo isn’t misunderstood. He’s misdiagnosed.
This is exactly why he's the most misunderstood character. His intentions were to use the attack to get rid of Tsunade and then be able to prevent the 9 tails from being captured by Madara, whom he designated as the real leader of the Akatsuki. He believes not only Konoha but the entire world will be lost.
This is exactly the policy of the Shinobi alliance who willingly risked way more lives to keep the Kyubi safe from Madara.
You absolutely proved his point, lol.
Ngl bro danzo is odd cause bro couldve 100% stepped into the fight with pain and done some damage, I mean like kakashi wouldve wiped deva path if he didnt decide to save choji so if danzo and his what? 9 lives was there theres a good arguement to say asura and deva path would be cooked. Bro was the 2nd strongest person in the village at the time with more lives than the juubi has tales and he just let konoha get swish kababed. Danzo, more than anything just wanted to be in charge, thats the way i see his character, while convincing himself he was doing it for Konoha. I agree with killing the toad, but theres no mental backflips you can do to say danzo wanted the best for the village while hiding underground with his what? 200 member ANBU task force letting the village be destroyed, like i think we can all agree pain wouldve killed and destroyed everything in the village if naruto hadnt showed up right?
You act like Danzo has a way of knowing about shinra tensei. The akatsuki is focused on the tailed beasts. Pain even offered to ally with tsunade,but she pissed him oft by not going along with his god complex. Only then does he try destroying the leaf
I agree with you but tbh you probably explaind Danzo better and more clearly than the manga really did lol
That's true.
It was two key statements from 2 key characters.
The first statement that threw me for a loop was from Shisui. "Danzo doesn't trust me, he intends to protect the village in his own way" Why would someone's enemy say that? That always stuck with me.
The second statement was Hiruzen's at the Hokage revival. Hiruzen basically said he unfairly burdened Danzo with the worst of the village, and it backfired because of the unfair amount of pressure the village put on Danzo.
Going back and reading it knowing that the Uchiha were being controlled by Black Zetsu, that an Uchiha did kill the 4th Hokage, and that Madara did indeed comeback to life combined with those statements and you're talking about a whole new character than when I first read the series. Things really made more sense. His distrust in Shisui, his unwillingness to let Naruto participate or be the hero, his unfaithfulness to Tsuande, even his disdain for Hiruzen knowing the unfair amount of pressure he ws placed under by him made more sense.
He, by no means, is a good guy or hero, just more complicated than I was initially lead to believe.
Not really,even shisui and sai affirm this after they've been wronged by him. Fans just don't understand a villain unless they get talk no jutsued and we see a sad flashaback
Was that an anime only moment? Cause I don't remember reading these dialogues. I would almost say that Shisui has no dialogue in the manga but maybe I forgot or missed it
People can have a valid perspective on a character even if it doesn't align with someone else's. If someone were to call Obito a poor soul who lost all hope in the world and it's people, that would be valid. If someone were to call Obito a sadistic evil murdering wuss who had the power to revive Rin and didn't use it, that is also valid. Neither of these people have " misunderstood" his Character. Now if someone came along and said Obito was a hero and served to exemplify that Naruto's goals were foolish, that would be a misunderstanding. If someone said that Naruto was evil because he was possessed by Kurama, that would be a misunderstanding. Different perspectives on a character are fine and just because someone hates a character you like doesn't mean that they've misunderstood anything. Different strokes for different folks.
I feel like deep down if Obito revived Rin, he’d know that she’d be absolutely disgusted on how he’s turned out.
Imagine Kakashi asking him "Why didn't you revive her, since you don't follow any moral code anymore?" and he just hits him with the embarrassed monkey side eye.
Cuz it wasn't all just abt rin
In any rational world, yes but the spoiler free version is that we don't get that much needed resolution on her part.
Thats a hard concept to grasp not even for just some Naruto fans anime fans in total
U spitting tho
I feel like it’s gaara He did Nothing too deserve that He wanted too be Loved.
By fans ? Sasuke he meant to be one of the most loved character in series if this show has matured fans. I really don't understand how people defending obito and Itachi while criticizing Sasuke. People call him cry baby bro wtf his older literally wiped his clan and made him watch that shit many times how man can be normal? Naruto is bigger cry baby than Sasuke I think Naruto cried even more that sakura and fans call Sasuke cry baby and if madara planned infinity tsukiyomi and killed many people for his idea it's for peace best villian ever Chad. If Sasuke present his ideology which is definitely better than tsukiyomi and for that he needs to take 5 kage and Naruto fans call it bullshit and clown
People don’t defend Itachi and Obito, you’re living in 2015 if you think that.
There are way more Sasuke fans on Reddit then Obito or Itachi
Reddit isn't a good representation of the fanbase.
Sakura and naruto fandom is just mad that he's got all the cool powers, looks, and the plot. The things they think their self-inserts have.
Depends what you mean by misunderstood, I’d go with itachi since a lot of people don’t understand he’s undercover in the Akarsuki and legit never tries in any of his fights but I see others being extremely reasonable as well like sasuke, orochimaru, gaara
Itachi is the most misunderstood in the sense that many people don't think of him as a villain, which seems to be a major misunderstanding.
Madara!! He didn’t want to kill anyone. Just make them go night night
bro was just developing cure for insomnia, what a sweet person !
Tbh if what was on stone tablet was true and people were to live their desired lives in genjutsu then for me madara is a hero no matter what ways he used
Now don't say that's not reality,that's the point of it,you will never realise it is genjutsu and be happy forever
Deidara did nothing wrong
Except for killing my boy Gaara.
Sasori, if we're talking misunderstood potential. We never saw what he can actually do in a fight because not only did Sakura and Chiyo have 2 hard counters for him, but he was apparently holding back.
Looove Sasori and he's super underrated but idk why y'all think Sakura and Chiyo hard countered him, if anything it was the opposite. They had an antidote sure, but he fought an old lady well out of her prime and a melee fighter with no AOE or ranged jutsu. Even if he didn't decide to suicide, it would've been an extreme diff fight regardless.
Someone like Temari is an actual counter and would've one shot most of his arsenal 😭
But one poison attack and its over. They were actually a hard counter
No other team in Konoha and the sand can beat sasori
And remember, it wasn't just sakura and chiyo. It was the entire collaboration of the medical team of their villages under them
Temeri is quite strong but say she and gaara managed to dodge most of Sasori traps the third kazikage (their grandpa) power will demoralise them and still the poison is a major factor at play
It's like saying yeah sure Kakashi is strong but how strong is he without Obito sharingun while fighting his grandma a person who he looked up too
100%
Konan but that’s mainly due to a lack of screen time
I mean, I’m convinced that Kishimoto didn’t understand what he was writing when doing Itachi.
I feel Donzo ngl
Zabuza. He would literally be the protagonist in another manga. He is rebelling against Yagura and the bloody Mist Village that's being controlled by Obito, and Madara before then, he is 100% right to leave the village, save a persecuted minority and train him to survive on the way, and gather funds to hire allies to help free them from Yagura.
It’s such a good story arch
Yeah I think a Naruto is great at having a lot of great motivational back stories. Kishimoto does flawed but heroic characters well. Chiyo, Jiraiya, Kimimaro, Itachi, Kisame, Kakashi, Nagato and Konan to name a few.
Obito. A lot of people mistake it as he does the evil stuff ONLY because the single event that Rin is dead which is not really true.
How is it not itachi?
"Obito started a war over Rin" is completely false and I see a lot of people saying that. Most of these other antagonists have their motives better explained. Sasukes is probably the hardest to understand and honestly It took me a while to understand 100% his justifications for what he is doing
As others have said, Obito's problem is basically "show don't tell". People like things being spelled out for them. Kishimoto didn't necessarily do that with him. He's someone a lot of people have to analyze a bit more to better understand.
Sasuke definitely isn't hard to understand though. I don't get why people find him to be misunderstood. He's just disliked and not empathized with because he always picks revenge and chaos, and because he goes against his brother's ideals and sacrifices. People call him emotional which he is, he just has damn good reasons to be.
Sasuke is a very complex character that many people don't bother trying to understand. They just either like him or hate him.
“They either like him or hate him” that applies to every prominent character in a story
Danzo. He's less unidimensional than redditors think.
Everyone outside of reddit says the same thing too, though that’s how most people are
Sasuke ngl. Some mfs really do not understand his character at all
Gaara
the fuck why is gaara there and suka he wanted to kill his bother because his bother killed his clan!!!!!!!!!!!1
I think orochimaru always made his points clear. There is nothing to misunderstand hahahaha
Out of the list provided anyone not saying Gaara is just incorrect. Everyone else on that sheet made their own choices, even if they were remotely justified from their perspective. Gaara was despised by his own family and unable to sleep for the majority of his existence, on top of keeping a crazy sand chakra demon under wraps. Gaara is the only one who’s actions were dictated by a sand demon and a MASSIVE lack of sleep, he is the only one not in his right mind while acting as an antagonist
Its gaara because of how little control he has on his tailed spirit
I've gotta say Sasuke. He's the one who has to eat shit for Itachi and Kishimoto's sins, and when you keep that in mind Sasuke makes pretty sensible decisions and is a pretty nice guy all things considered.
Danzo, Madara..
Danzo and sasuke are pretty much the only misunderstood antagonists, technically obito but that’s more delusion from casual fans who actually think he started the war and became a villain purely for rin
Sasuke.
People call him emo, whiny, selfish, arrogant, childish when he's anything but all of this.
Sasuke used to be a happy, kind, hardworking kid who loved his family and clan immensely, but all of that was taken away from him when Itachi, the person he loved and looked up to willingly betrayed their family and clan, Itachi wasn't manipulated into betraying them he always hated his clan, this is backed up by his behavior and attitude towards them in his own novel, Sasuke's flashbacks that lead up to the massacre, Hiruzen himself, and Itachi's attitude towards them when he's brought back as an edo. Itachi on orders of the state genocided their entire clan and trapped Sasuke in a genjutsu for over 72 hours, making him relive the massacre.
When Sasuke woke up, the village that ordered the genocide in its entirety shunned him. The bodies of his family and clan were desecrated, their Sharingans harvested. The blood of his parents wasn't cleaned from where they were slain. Sasuke was allowed to wander and live in his families compound alone and isolated. No one in the village gave a fuck about him, girls were only obsessed with his looks, skills, and other stuff meanwhile the guys outside of his clan hated and envied him for the female attention he was getting, and the adults outside of his clan really didn't give a shit about him outside of his skills as a useful murder weapon. His teammates Naruto and Sakura were obnoxious and annoying, forcing their own desires and insecurities onto him, ignoring his wants and needs. Kakashi didn't give a fuck about his revenge and told him to forget about it. Hell, Itachi and everyone else involved in the genocide were allowed to get away with their fucked up deeds for years.
Sasuke gets flack for joining Orochimaru and later the Akatsuki, for attacking his former comrades and the kage, for going against Itachi's wishes, and for trying to start a revolution. None of that is even remotely wrong on his part.
Konoha made explicitly clear that it wouldn't help him avenge his clan, so he was totally justified in going to Orochimaru, who willingly offered to help him. People say Orochimaru killed Hiruzen though well too bad because the old man allowed Sasuke's people to be fucked over and genocided, he allowed Orochimaru himself to get away with his fucked up experiments and only did something about it when he turned his fangs against Konoha itself.
Team 7 repeatedly pestered and chased after Sasuke for years, trying to forcefully bring him back to Konoha even though he repeatedly tells them to leave him alone and that he doesn't want to return. Sakura and Kakashi had tried to kill Sasuke, so he responded appropriately to their murder attempts. Naruto and Kakashi, upon learning about the Leaf's role in the genocide judged and questioned Sasuke for not returning to Konoha and even chose to cover up the genocide and shake hands with Itachi. So Sasuke was right in how he treated them.
Itachi again betrayed their clan for the village that discriminated against and genocided them despite experiencing the discrimination firsthand so his wishes don't mean shit and Sasuke was right to disrespect and disregard them.
The kage and their villages are terrorist states that since their inception have kept the world in a constant state of chaos, death, strife, and misery, they and their followers are nothing but literal war criminals.
The Cloud kidnaps young girls for their kekkei genkai, hoards jutsus, war postures, and demand the heads of slaves and innocents when shit doesn't go their way.
The Mist had bloodline purges and hunger games style graduation ceremonies, and as seen with Kisame ordered the deaths of their during missions.
The Stone hired the Akatsuki to commit numerous acts of terrorism on their behalf, disregarding human life.
Suna helped attack Konoha.
Konoha itself has a long list of bullshit. One of its founding fathers invented necromancy and started the process of human experimentation as well laid down the foundation for the village system as a whole. It's discriminated against one of its founding clans and ordered their genocide when they stood up for themselves. It allows slavery and treats its orphans like shit, not just them, but even those like Sakumo are not safe.
The major villages fucked over smaller nations and their villages, turning them into meat grinders, and forcing feudal lords to fight each other to keep the paychecks coming, Amegakure is one of the most notable victims of this. Additionally, they have no issue utilizing organized militias to get the jobs done, and the Akatsuki are among those groups that they hire, this is something that is explicitly revealed and confirmed by Pain and the Kage Summit. The Akatsuki's ridiculously large capital is further proof of this.
The Akatsuki stands antithetical to the kage and shinobi system, and the organization extended its hand to Sasuke since they had common interests, and since they're the only ones opposing them it makes sense why Sasuke chose to defect to them as well.
Sasuke saw how corrupt the system was and how it would continue to cause more pain and suffering if something wasn't done about it. His revolution plan was meant to truly unite the world under him, with him being immortal and the sole power of the world, ensuring that what happened to him never happened again.
Nothing Sasuke did was wrong, save being talk no jutsu'd.
From this list, sasuke and obito. Maybe danzo. Itachi doesn't get enough shit. His writing is fucking trash.
Pain
Obito
Orochimaru. Bro just wanted to be immortal. like is that too much to ask for?
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I mean pain is rather up here but what about sasori ? i mean the poor dude was a fine kid until he was completly broken by his parent never coming back and chiyo lying to him about their death , if anything it's heartbreaking to see little kid loose all compassion and happyness because of the war resulting in him becoming empty inside.
The way he get killed by his parent puppet and actually letting it happend show that the guy wanted to die after all it's really a sad existence who could have been avoided maybe if chiyo tell him the truth sooner...i really think the chiyo-sasori is one of the most tragic relationship in naruto, with shiyo in her desire to not break his heart actually make things worse for him.
Hidan
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Just kidding he got what he deserved.
It's kakuzu
Why is Gaara on the list? He was just too young to understand what life is about, but he changes and becomes a good Kage
Itachi
Most people do not understand Sasuke was right actually
Sasuke for sure
Danzo
Zabuza
Sasori. I still see dudes trying to tell me he wasn't suicidal
You can't hate Danzo but then find Naruto's entire aesthetic and world inspiring. Danzo is the embodiment of that corrupt world in its most true form. He exposes the child abuse to the political disregard for civilian lives to the dark underbelly of shinobi life.
He's a complete package that Naruto fans are too dumb to understand
Zabuza.
Pain, Obito and Itachi.
Madara and itachi. Because both of their doings were purely for good except they both were done in non 'civilized ways'
Orochimaru.
Easily Danzo. He had good intentions in just wanting to protect the village and when he took power he did it because he sincerely believed that anyone else would be too naive to protect the village properly. He’s definitely an “ends justify the means” type of character.
2nd would be Zetsu and Kaguya as a tie. There were way more clues to their existence way earlier than most people seem to think. It wasn’t as much of an asspull as people said it was.
Kabuto.
Zabuza. This tsundere really wasn't a bad person. He was a mercenary and killed for money, but all in order to accumulate enough finances for a revolution in his village, since he was against the oppressive regime of their government. Although he said that shinobi are just a tool, he would not have attempted to overthrow the government, escape and collect funds for the second round if he really believed in what he said.
Like it depends on what you mean by misunderstood... the real question is who is the less misunderstood- Danzo.
Like... no argument there, the guy has always been an ass to anyone. Name it. Yahiko and his Akatsuki, Kabuto, Itachi, even Naruto. Like it's no joke. Fuck Danzo.
Kakuzu, all he wants is your heart and some money!
The reaching fouls I see regarding madara specifically is crazy.
Danzo ! I mean we all know he did what he did for the village anyway my favourite character overall
Danzo
Obito, and it's not even really a question.
If you say danzo consider yourself and opp
Hidan, I still don’t understand his cause…. Or I guess just don’t think it’s valid
Hidan.. he’s not even a villain if his religion were actually somehow true, since his god seems to mandate execution of those who don’t believe.
zabuza, zero talks about it... sub is in english tho
Misunderstood by fans of the series, or misunderstood by the people in the series? Or both? Just curious
Itachi
Sasuke
Honestly, Itachi. Like he's one of the more fleshed out characters and even with all that information that's a massive disconnect most people can't bridge realistically. Most characters you don't know enough to even misunderstand them fairly. With Itachi, you know enough to properly misunderstand the character so far removed from a world like ours.
Like, how can you understand an isolated clan who enforces laws and you become a child soilder at what 10? To secretly murder people with nearly no warning and your best friend is a run on sight if you can child soilder. Then you have to murder everyone training and protecting you for the sake of these new trainers who hate your clan, but you do so to protect only your younger brother and not your lover?
Like dude, how could you even begin to unpack and understand Itachi? The places you would have to have visited and researched or lived through would have been terrible.
Itachi is not a bad guy
Upvoting because I know the Itachi haters are about to come in swarms
Madara. People think he wanted to kill everyone but he just wanted to create peace in the entire world and make everyone live their dream desires without causing harm to anyone
He laughed his ass of when he was killing the shinobi alliance and he smiled like shit when he heard hashirama was there for a brawl....
Its a little contradicting acting like this and talk about ,,peace" at the same time you know...haha
You can understand the disdain though for the people who opposed him (the alliance especially) because in his mind they’re fighting to continue a system that perpetually leads to violence and war, instead of accepting his peaceful alternative. He’s happy Hashirama is there for a brawl because that’s his childhood homie and I think to the very end he liked Hashirama
He could have simply paralize all of them with his sharingan he was an undkillable being with endless chakra he was faster then all of them there was no reason to kill them
Deidara
He just wanted to share his art with the world
Kisame I think made it pretty damn clear who he was
Madara. Bro didn’t even understood himself nor that he was being used by Zetsu.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Hidan, because I don't think Kishimoto ever really went into depth on the guy's reasoning for his religious extremism, let alone how that ties in with him joining the Akatsuki.
"Misunderstood" is not the right word for that. More like "unexplored potential".
Danzo and Sasuke. And Kakuzu. Bro just failed to kill the literal God of Shinobi and his village kicked him smh.
I'd argue Itachi, since he's often portrayed as either a complete saint or a genuine nutcase rather than just... a mentally unwell guy who made a really bad decision that he went on to regret.
Itachi is not an antagonist
He is for all of part 1 and half of Shippuden.
Just because he did what he did "for the right reasons" doesn't mean that he isn't an antagonist.
From 1 an antagonist is the one who opposes the protagonist. A villain may not be an antagonist and he is not against Naruto so he cannot be an antagonist. 2 he never wanted to kill his entire clan we forced him Itachi is the good guy and the Uchiha are the bad guys by killing them Itachi to save everyone. And 3 if we follow your logic that "having done that for the right reasons does not make you a good guy" well then Kakashi and Yamato are bad guys because when they were anbu they murdered people
Well, Sasuke's also a protagonist, and since Itachi opposed him, he's an antagonist.
It's not as simple as "Itachi good, Uchiha bad".
The Uchiha made the mistake of taking out their anger on the entire village instead of the people who were majorly responsible because they were blinded by rage, despite their superior vision, ironically enough.
Itachi made the mistake of finding an alternative to the problem because he was young and blinded by the love he has for his little brother.
But Itachi then went on to make Sasuke's life a living Hell because he was blinded by self-hatred.
He's neither a good guy nor a bad guy, he's a broken boy who decided to handle a terrible situation in the worst way possible.
Same goes for the Uchiha.
As for your "Kakashi/Yamato" point...
I didn't say "doing something bad for the right reasons doesn't make you a good guy", I said "doing something bad for the right reasons doesn't mean that a character isn't an antagonist".
You said it yourself, a villain =/= antagonist.
It just means that the character opposes the protagonist.
Which is what Itachi does for most of his screen time, even if his motivations don't align with the opposing side.
The real bad guy is Danzo 😡
Gato my king
Obito. People actually think he did it only because of Rin.
Sasuke and Obito.
It's between Obito and itachi for me
Itachi is not a bad guy
as for who the Naruto verse is making the characters misinterpretate, obviously itachi, but I feel like we mostly misunderstand orochimaru or sasori. like orochimaru had a heart before and so did sasori. it's not like they js one day decided to choose violence, they clearly had a reason for turning the other cheek and ppl don't realize that for some reason. sasori legit lost his parents at a very young age man, losing your parents like that and being outcasted for it is sum gruesome shi to go through. he wanted love again so bad that he made puppets of his mom and dad and chiyo even taught ts mf puppet jutsu she felt so bad 😭 his strive for love led him to a dark path which is very understandable. and orochimaru had to watch tsunade suffer through sm and dropped one of the most impactful lines in the series when he told jiraiya to kill yahiko, konan and nagato bc he was actually right about them being put out of there misery if they kill them, they wouldntve made the deal w hanzo and yahiko wouldntve died which led to nagatos villian arc. this suffering his friends were experiencing made him think about the secret mysterious and jutsus of humanity and if there's a cure to any of it finding a forbidden immortality jutsu that he uses bc of how much suffering his friends went through and how much he wants humans to not experience pain and death, which is also reasonable. let's not act like they were a run of the mill sukuna bro. cmon now
Danzo
People think he's this psycopathic warmonger that will do anything to keep his village on top. But really, he's just a murderous douchebag with a powerful 'friend' that also happens to come from a prestigious legacy (former student of the Nidaime)
To Everyone that says I can change them joke or not if Naruto the one who popularized Talk no Justso can't change them what makes u think we can
Obito does not deserve the hate thrown at him. Like leave my boy alone.
I agree
Deidara. He’s not misunderstood in the anime, but the fandom seems to believe that he’s “trauma-less” or is just evil for the fun of it
Sasuke probably isn’t as misunderstood as some fans make it out given that literally every other person here is saying him.
Kakuzu he was punished by his village because he lost to hashirama....(Lol wtf) Everyone knew this mission was nearly impossible to fullfill
He killed his eldars and took there hearths after that kind of betrayl i would also just trust money man....