Confederacy: 4 years
Television sitcom According to Jim starring Jim Belushi: 8 years
The annoying orange: like 11 years and still fucking going to this day
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It's a zoomer thing
It's not though.... millenials started that one.
Fair enough, I've just never met a millennial whos ever actually enjoyed it
it was at the peak of its popularity when most of older gen z were in kindergarten lol
That's when I loved watching it tho lmao 6-9yo
Fucking ouch.
That's a new one for me. Nicely done!
Damn, I gotta remember this one lmao
I like Minnesota's confederate flag, and wish it was still on public display to see.
Plus, our former governor had the best response when Virginia asked for it back: "We took it, that makes it our heritage."
TIL I have a favorite Confederate flag...this story is AMAZING.
VA: "We want our traitorous banner of sedition back"
MN: "Stay mad...losers."
Anyone who loves the Confederate flag and glamorizes the Confederacy is clearly a moron who is not the sort of person that any decent human being should ever associate with.
Also, people who say stupid bs like this dude about foreign flags being flown outside of people's houses should be ignored since they're never going to stop. You can't fix stupid people.
It's funny, because in the South, they teach you that the civil war wasn't about slavery, but about people defending their rights. It's kind of a thing of being proud that people stood up for what they believed in; their being wrong isn't really talked about. So you would see that flag and thing "Southern pride" but also associate it with trashy people to a degree. There's people out there with that tattooed on their body, and now they're learning it was about slavery, and whoops.
Another reason I'm glad I've never gotten tattoos. Not that I'd have ever sported a rebel flag (which is what we always called it), but merely the principle of viewpoints changing without your tattoos following.
I don't fault people like that for being tricked. I fault them for not looking any deeper than the whole "states rights" argument because that entire thing falls apart as soon as you ask "states rights to do what?" In fact, it falls apart even more afterwards when you examine how northern states passed laws to protect runaway slaves and the fact that the south wanted the federal government to override those laws. So, in essence, it all boiled down to how they just wanted to own slaves without anything getting in the way of that. But that doesn't fit the narrative that certain groups of people have been using for decades.
And that's what it's really been about. Using a narrative that doesn't tell the entire story to mislead people down there into believing in things that just aren't true. Why? Because a bunch of racist fucks wanted to preserve the status quo however they could to make themselves feel more comfortable about living with themselves and their racist beliefs.
I think you severely underestimate the indoctrination. I am one of the most inquisitive people I know, but I didn't know that what I was taught 25 years ago was intentionally misleading and downright wrong until I read about Texas school books being edited to teach about the civil war. Why would I have expected that my 7th grade history class was curated to mislead me and promote division? When I read about it on a reddit post (no joke), I started digging and told whomever would listen. A kid doesn't usually expect to be lied to by their school curriculum. Additionally, at the time, there was a major prejudice against "yankees". Their ideas would be filtered through that prejudice. "They don't understand what it's like down here. Damn Yankees need to go home."
I don't have kids, but I'm old enough to have had a late teen by now, and I'd have passed on ideas a long time ago that I didn't ever think to question. Now, I hope a kid of mine would have used the invaluable repository that is available today, along with the skeptical ideas that are now so prevalent, to dig into this topic and teach me the deep and thorough error in my understandings, as they were taught to me.
Also, you need to realize that this stuff is deeply steeped in conservativism. Television and news are designed to condition us, and conservative news and religious programs very effectively condition people to reject outside ideas. Additionally, these people are overwhelmingly non-african american. This is not a recipe for making people who go digging for truth. This is a recipe for making people who hate learning new ideas.
Well, when you put it like that it makes a lot of sense as to why so many people down there think like that. Conservative government is literally conditioning people to believe what they're told to believe and ignore anything that disagrees with all that. It's really sickening when I think about it because it reminds me of books and movies that have been made concerning a dystopian future where people are made to be like brainwashed robots devoid of individual thought. I can't help but think of the movie They Live. Only the bad guys are all humans and there are no aliens.
it reminds me of books and movies that have been made concerning a dystopian future where people are made to be like brainwashed robots devoid of individual thought.
Obligatory "1984" reference. I'm not sure if you've read it. The main character worked for the Ministry of Truth. Their job was to be part of a large team that edits all historical information to be in line with the current stance the government had. It was a neverending job because the government had to shift narratives often. Absolutely everything was set up to make the people's minds malleable to a degree that they accepted today what was not so yesterday without the slightest disbelief, and believe it had always been that way.
It's literally a playbook for tightly controlled tyranny, and it's frightening to see the parallels.
I'll have to check out "They Live".
my us history teacher in texas saying slavery was the main cause of the civil war:
Good.
yeah shes a w teacher, she gives donuts to class periods that did good for a sub
...I read 'Confederate' as 'corporate' the first time
America isn't a melting pot (all homogenized into one thing), it's a stew-- lots of different things floating around in the same broth.
Normally I hear/use the term Salad bowl.
I’d rather be a salad than a stew
(Try not to hear Simon and Garfunkel singing that sucker)
Yes I would....if I only could....I truly would...
I heard it in my mind even before I read the second line….ha ha!
or a buffet. i’ve never been to all the places in the world but im sure the us is prob the most diverse place on this planet.
London would like a word.
Half the flags in my area are Confederate flags 🙄
Rebel flags. That's likely what they called them. It leaves out the ugly bits, in their minds. Mostly.
Still dumb.
It was about 160 years ago. It happened and now it's over. Why don't you leave it alone? If not, do you have a time table for spiking the football?
I mean you won't get any argument from me.
10-4. I wish everyone would just move on. People who want to fly the confederate battle flag alone along with the LGBTQWErtY+-%$# Flag and the BLM flag should be left alone. I believe there are many more important things to get fired up about.
aint no way someone named jimmy is talking right now
The penalty of treason is death. No North, No South, the Union forever.
The guy ate too many punches, he's a walking CTE.
The USA is immigration based, including from my country!
Those immigrants killed off most of the indigenous people.
He claims to have been saved by MMA and moved on from that but his latest round of ramblings sound exactly like a guy who thinks the neo-Nazis in American History X are 'fucking cool'.
Everyone has a right to love their heritage. But, IMO, it shouldn't be that rose-colored goggles version where everyone's original homeland is 1,000 times better than where they are now. For the most part (excluding slaves, exiled people, etc.) the reason people left their homelands is the US offered better opportunities and/or an escape from whatever horrible thing that was going on in their homelands that displaced them.
Christ, what fucking SNOWFLAKE!
Strickland is a genuine piece of shit. This douchebaggery here is pretty mild, compared to his normal shit
I wonder if Strickland has a couple confederate flags in his possession? I'm sure he thinks they are patriotic 🙄
5th gen Hispanic thank you so fucken much I was born in USA had the pledge of allegiance in class in grade school and the anthem my flag is the red white blue and will always will be of course these MFS from the other side look down on me but idgaf while they looking down they can spit shine my shoes there muddy nice and broken but I know where my loyalty lies
Right. The Confederacy. Traitors who rebelled against the US government, seceded from the Union, went to war to overthrow said government and cry over losing their slaves but not for that, no they lied by trying to cloak it in the guise of "state's rights." Yep, state's rights to own slaves. Hey, that sounds familiar . . .
Actually, they went to war to leave the Union, not to overthrow the federal government.
Depends how you look at it, they definitely overthrew the federal governments power in the South.
We don’t need to go back to the Civil War to chronicle the federal government’s continued intrusion into every aspect of your life. The Founders of this country never intended for us to have the overbearing federal government we currently live under.
I’m mean I’m okay with them intruding on slavery, not sure that’s the best example you could use.
Did you not read the first sentence of my comment? Today, a FEMA bureaucrat determines if you can build a utility shed to store a lawnmower on your property. I don’t see how that has anything to do with slavery or preventing a confederate uprising.
I agree, so lets avoid wrapping bad Civil War takes up in any unrelated crusades against big government.
Sometimes we want federal regulation, often times we don't- anything else requires context.
Buckets of Gold's comment below is most akin to what I meant. Comments online have to be truncated even though mine never really are. The slave states would have loved to expand to the rest of the Union of given the chance, and they didn't just want to leave Lincoln's administration, but would have loved Jeff Davis to take over all over. There's a war cry, still, in the South, to this day: "( Free Bird, Dude) South's Gonna Do It Again!" and look. They're considering it. And I do not believe, if given half the chance, they would not try a 6 Jan on steroids. They'd storm the Capitol, again, and probably not stop there.
Dude is such a bellend
Another response to the original tweet could have been to simply point out where the American flag comes from: https://youtube.com/shorts/rbvr4OgSyEM?si=vmG2A6VadFxZuG8z
I once had an Irish immigrant tell me that his people are from here and he's not an immigrant. His father moved his family here when he was like 7.
They were noy sending their best people from England to the American colonies.
How many criminals did England send to America?
Between 50,000 and 120,000 British convicts were transported to America, a fact that makes many Americans “incredulous,” says Railton. This is often because convicts were politely referred to as “servants.”
https://sage-answer.com/did-the-british-send-criminals-to-america/
Those corrupt countries are that way because the US keeps destabilizing them or planting US puppets as presidents. Latest one is the Ecuadorian president. Then if they start doing their thing they threaten them with invasion and sanctions like they are currently doing to Mexico. Mexico is thriving WITHOUT a US puppet as president. Korean people are moving there because they see the potential, China is opening businesses along future project areas, France is sending companies there and more. Then there's other places like Argentina that are in financial trouble so the US gives false hope to their president so he can sell their resources like lithium to an American company currently owned by Musk. Then from time to time they show their president in US media so it goes back to the Argentinians so they think he's doing good. Cuba STILL has sanctions. All because it didn't play by the US rules. Last I check, they were an independent country. Then they have the audacity to deny those immigrants legal status and wonder why they come here. After all that, what did yall think would happen? The rest of the world would forget while you saw the atrocities in TV and were like, "that sucks. Time to go to work. Another day another penny". You all should see those flags as a reminder of the people yall screwed over. The African immigrants that were part of the blood diamonds scandal. Which hasn't stopped yet.
The guy even has an Irish name.
Migrants rarely (if ever) flee "countries". They flee PEOPLE oppressing them in their country or seek out opportunity in a foreign country. That doesn't mean they're no longer allowed to be proud of the country they're from...
"Boston to Philly" isn't the US and the inconvenient truth here is that in the vast majority of the US white people simply don't fly flags of their origins on their homes or cars. Inside their homes? Yes, but not frequently.
Instead a bunch of them fly a flag that represents killing members of the U.S. military.
This is unfortunate because Sean is an alright dude aside from this. At least publicly.
I hear he's not-at-all annoying or bigoted or terrible or anything.
This isn't a murder, because there's nothing in that dumbass's post that implies he's fine with white ethnic group flags.
When you're a POC, you grow up to realize that whenever a white person says some shit like that it's always from a racist standpoint. So he probably is ok with white ethnic group flags.
Except for that part where he specifically calls out Mexicans for being the worst. Saying I hate all foreigners but especially Mexicans isn't any less racist.
Also is Mexico really the worst country you can think of?
Don’t see any American flags alongside the Palestinian flag lmfao.
Mexican flags: not good
Confederate/Nazi flags: A-ok
Got it!