Matt and Colleen are married. At this point the best thing we can do for them is leave them alone. All this speculation about Matt being abusive is unfounded in my opinion. I feel like a lot of it come's from the one interaction where he's upset at her after the pool. He's obviously very intense during the interaction but he doesn't yell and doesn't really attack her. The dude knows he wasn't this girls first pick and he's been cheated on in a different long term relationship. Obviously he's gunna be insecure and upset when she flirts with another guy while they're engaged (and he doesn't even really know her character). The other thing I've seen is people saying she looks like she's being held hostage in the reunion. Why not just assume she's uncomfortable because she knows she's going to be put on the hot seat about the pool thing and she's ashamed and embarrassed? I'm not the biggest fan of Matt but it seems like Colleen is. Even if it is an abusive relationship (God forbid) it's not like internet sleuths are actually going to do anything about it by speculating. And if they are actually just two happily married adults then the abuse speculations are only going to hurt their marriage.
Matt's got issues but let's not all imply that he's abusive.
SpoilerUNPOPULAR OPINIONTHANK YOU! I think she looks uncomfortable because rewatching things is obviously uncomfortable. She said yes and they are still together. Let it go people!
Mark this post as spoiler please. I had already seen the Ep but otherwise your first sentence is shown in the preview and could spoil the end for someone...
good call thanks!
Clingy people don't "deserve" to be controlled. I'd hate for a loved one to be that uncomfortable with someone they love.
Look at her face. Would you be okay with someone doing that to your friend, sister, mom. She was very scared.
I appreciate what your saying I just genuinely don't see fear from her towards him.
I respect that but I don't get how. If any of my loved ones had that body language around me I would be very concerned
Sure I would too if it was for no reason. I just think it's more likely she looks uncomfortable because of the uncomfortable nature of the questions and reunion.
We may agree to disagree but I do hope you are right
Also why did be berate her over the story until he heard it from Cole? He literally heard the same story and after days of raging and threatening to leave he chilled out. He doesn't respect women because he's still hurt (fair.) Don't put that on someone who hardly even knows who they are.
I think it's sad he wasn't able to trust her but to be fair they don't have a foundation of trust and don't even really know each other (and she did flirt with another dude when Matt was 20 ft away). He definitely dealt with it and with Colleen in an unhealthy way. Having said that, to me him feeling better after talking with Cole seems pretty understandable. Like if it was another woman involved instead of Cole and the woman corroborated Colleen's story I think Matt still would've felt better. I don't think it was an issue of needing to hear it from a man but just to hear the same account actually lets him know Colleen was telling the truth, of course he's going to feel better after that. And again even though Matt's not dealing with it in a healthy way idk why people feel the need to assume misogyny and abuse.
I challenge you to rewatch. Look at every season. But look at how fucking scared she looks to answer. He's hovering her. Making faces. He was on camera trying to bail (at every small moment) and completely losing it a "tiff" or some other verbiage similar (I apologize I'm watching bobs burgers to decompress and don't quite remember the exact quote)
I get my experience may be projecting but it truly seems so obvious to me.
i knew these posts were coming thats all ima say
Nah it definitely wasn’t just that one fight, there were at least three times he went into that mode. The first time he stormed out, the “say it, say it” scene at the aquarium, and one in between those episodes I think. I don’t think it’s the insecurity people are objecting to, it’s the way he argues
also when they met with his friends, one of them said "i know your side, you get upset and you yell"
it's very telling when the people in his life know that this is a pattern of behavior for him. people are right to be cautious
This! The constant threads and the use of "red flag" over and over again are driving me batty. Everyone saying she looked scared of him at the reunion, yet she was at the same time holding onto him. Her face looked tense to me not her body language towards him.
She was clinging onto him for dear life at the reunion! Probably because she’s afraid of the loonies on social and getting any more hate
Agreed I rewatched some of the clips and I just couldn't see it. You could tell they both felt awkward about the living situation but like obviously it's weird. I think they just had awkward conversation topics so obviously they're going to look awkward and uncomfortable. Nothing at all damning imo seems like speculating can only hurt them.
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