Asmon says his 2nd channel will likely be forced to partner soon because his average viewer count has gotten so high he is now costing twitch a lot of money by not having ads run on the channel.
incoming 3rd channel
Sir, a 3rd channel yada yada yada
He should really consider selling them as they become more popular, infinite money glitch. 😂
Not too familiar with asmon, why doesn't he want to partner? Doesn't that also mean more money for him?
He says he has enough money with other ventures and just streams for funsies
For the sake of clarity, Asmon co-founded (and owns part of) OTK, Starforge Systems and Mythic Talent. (I wouldn't be surprised if there's not more that some one else can fill us in on.)
When you factor in he's still living in his family home and is very frugal, he's basically just racking up his high score.
He is living in filth that would make your stomach churn in disgust if you saw it in person.
You can be as frugal as you want, but buying a fucking mop and soap isn't going to break the bank.
This isn't about being frugal, bro has racked up several mental health issues together with that "high score"
The guy is severely mentally ill and himself and his audience ignore it.
I think you mean they see him as someone with similar health conditions that has become successful. They identify with him.
You have literally hit the nail on the head about why seemingly "random" people become popular on the internet. We have so many undiagnosed neurological diversions that are so widespread that when a guy shovels a whole cheese wheel into his mouth on livestreams a group of 200 people who also have done that or wanted to do that are like "Woah, he like me fr fr"
Honestly idek if that is a bad thing but those 200 people are sadly never gonna get paid for shoving cheese in their mouth, no matter how much they want to.
That frugal part just irks me, i dont know why. Why anyone would choose to live in that pig farm is beyond me, how being a millionaire stops you from getting a cook and a cleaner to just live a better life.
This is a personal opinion , i know he likes it like that but it just irks me
It's probably not the frugal part that irks you, it's the fact that he lives in a complete mess and treats himself and his home like shit. You can be frugal without being disgusting. Most people live somewhat frugally but they still have to take care of themselves.
Disgusting is the brand.
the guy can afford personal chefs, probably nurses to bathe him while he doesnt move, kobe beef and caviars, 24 hour blowjobs, the freshest clothes.
He's comfortable living like a welfare king hoarding millions
Welfare kings live better, though. Being on welfare doesn't mean you live with cockroaches in a hoarder's home. I like him, but the guy has problems and he's self-admitted to that.
Tbh, as someone more on the anti-social side, I wouldn't want to have other people in my home constantly (other than my partner of course), even if it is to make me food or clean. And Asmon is also pretty clearly anti-social and has to get dragged out to do events.
Some people are perfectly content just playing their games and eating what they know they enjoy each day, without having to bother with much else.
Something about his poor childhood causing it.
His statement is somewhere along the line of, "i don't want to get accustomed to more "expensive" life"
He apparently did have maid for short period during her ma illness, but apparently didn't keep her after his ma passes away.
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also per mutahar, his youtube channel is having 6 digit monthly income. He also pay his editor by percentage, hence the rather high posting number and greatly edited clips. because more view, more money for the editor.
Honestly, I have some complexs from growing up poor too. I find it massively hard to throw away food, even if I am full I finish my plate. I am well aware it isn’t healthy and I have tried to curb it but it goes back to not wasting what little food we had as kids. That shit can be tough to get over, especially with other mental issues mixed in.
Had this same shit happen to me but I'm nowhere near these guys in income, I take in about 6k post tax a month but I was living on 10$ an hr up/homeless sometimes to 30 years old before this. I will not rent anything above like 1300$ a month and living in a shitty area and probably going to move back in with parents and pay their bills because its cheaper than renting and I miss them. I'm GIGA paranoid about money and invest everything into S&P500 because I never want to be poor again
It's absolutely his childhood. Growing up poor is one of the worst scenarios for a child to endure. It scars one for life as we can see in Asmon. He will probably remain in his childhood house and continue being a hoarder for the rest of his days.
Genuine question, how did Asmon play WoW if he was poor? He and I are the the same age and I remember me and my poor friends not being able to play WoW or any MMO because of the $$$ and shitty internet connections, shitty PCs. We played pirated games mainly...
He wasn't just poor, his dad had a decent amount of money and helped his mom financially. His mom was poor besides that though and that's who he lived with growing up. Asmons problems aren't just from growing up poor though, it's from growing up with his mom having mental issues causing her to hoard.
So he grew up poor and this is the lifestyle he's lived since a child. He doesn't really even know any better (although he recently admitted that it's an issue after staying in a hotel in california). People are too harsh about it imo because they simply don't understand what that's like.
If I was to guess I'd say most people's issue with it isn't so much that he chooses to live like a goblin, it's that it feels like a waste of millions. He likely makes more in a year than >90% of people ever have and he lives like a squatter. Imagining the difference that money could make in your life and what he's doing with it is sure to irk some people.
There's a big difference between being frugal and living how Asmongold does. I feel bad for saying it but he lives like a pig. There was a visible brown crust of filth in his entire sink, his place is covered with dust and cobwebs.
Why anyone would choose to live in that pig farm is beyond me...
AFAIK, he's mentioned his mother was a hoarder and that's something he lived his life around. Making it something of a learned behavior for most, or nearly all, of this life (...if I am right on these details, someone may correct me)
Having had family that got that way, financial history and hardship tends to play a part. (In my families case, my grandmother and her kids were dirt poor most of their life. When she then got an large inheritance later in life, she and my aunts/cousins couldn't get out of the mindset of not getting rid of "things" or of indulging too much, in case they became poor. My father though kind of walked away from that... but looking back things like Christmas were weird because it was literally more about the amount of presents, mostly cheap crap, than quality of gifts. Likewise, he had to basically cut off his sisters after his mother died. As they could not work and could not function as adults. This involved a fundamental inability to keep a house vaguely clean... at one point the did something $10k in damage to a home...)
When you then factor in how close he was with his mother, along with her passing a couple of years ago, there's probably other emotional factors he may (or may not) be dealing with. Since he basically works from (her) home he has minimal need to go anywhere. Nor does he see a reason to change things.
Not trying to defend it, just point out that I have seen how the mindset works in people I've known, that seems similar. There isn't introspection on their circumstance, nor a sense that things need to change. The have the mindset of not wanting to risk wasting things they've acquired, mixed with a desire to not spend money they don't need to.
For “funsies” the dude has severe depression and mental illness to live in the shit hole he resides in. He’s streaming because it’s repetition and avoids having to think about real life. No amount of money is worth his existence. No one should strive or act like he is something to look up to.
Ok but he doesn't just stream for funsies. If you watch even a minute of his channel, you'll quickly notice not a second or two goes by without him saying SOMETHING. I don't think people realize how insanely difficult that is. Even if half of what he says is just filler/repetition, imagine 8 hours of non stop talking. Not even a conversation, just you talking, over and over and over.
It requires an insane amount of dedication and effort and I'm surprised he hasn't burned out yet. It's not easy and he's one of the only people on the platform to do it so incredibly well and consistently.
It works because it increases an average viewer's retention period which then snowballs into a higher viewership which then snowballs even higher. Also, in 8 hours of non-stop talking, you're bound to have some good clips/points that can be used for YT/IG shorts, Twitch clips, and Youtube videos. It's brilliant.
A stream for funsies would be him not talking and just chilling, but he knows he can't really do that otherwise viewership will drop quickly
It works because he loves to hear his own voice lmao
Because he believes that if people sub/donate to he should perform more because people paid him, without subs/donos he can basically put no effort into his stream
Really weird logic but it's Asmongold.
I mean it makes sense. He got really stressed taking subs because then he felt like he had a duty to keep a consistent streaming schedule and make sure they're getting their money's worth. Now he can just do whatever he wants.
Its like the difference in cooking a free meal for someone vs getting paid to cook a meal for someone, you want to do good in both but when someone paid you the pressure/expectation you feel is higher even though the outcome may be the same.
I had a friend who was in a very low level local band. He said the same thing you're saying. He preferred to do free shows rather than shows where he got paid a couple hundred bucks because there was no stress at a free show
Yeah but his second channel streams went from being purely about playing games, and occasionally talking to chat with no camera, to now where it's basically just exactly like his streams on the Asmongold channel.
So there is currently literally no difference.
Asmongold makes a ton of money from all his other streaming adjacent endeavors, he owns one of the largest streaming orgs, he owns a PC company, has multiple huge youtube channels, and he lives off $2 steaks in his childhood bedroom.
When he is not partnered, he can get away with having zero ads, zero monetization etc etc, at this point he is able to generate content from his free streams that he can monetize elsewhere, which increases his stream growth as he's basically the only top streamer with zero ad breaks.
He is mentally really sensitive. He used to take very long breaks from streaming regulary because he feels too pressured to "perform" when streaming on his main channel. On his second channel he can be more relaxed and just do whatever he wants.
He said he doesnt need more money and mainly wants to keep the viewer experience good. Not being partnered means he doesnt have to run ads.
(I know twitch can force them but i didnt get an ad on his channel in a looooooooong time)
any reason why he streams on a 2nd channel to begin with?
The reason he gives is anxiety. He felt like there was too much pressure when streaming on his main channel, so he made an alt. Eventually the alt just became his main channel.
The reason he gives is anxiety. He felt like there was too much pressure when streaming on his main channel, so he made an alt. Eventually the alt just became his main channel.
Unironically sounds like exactly the same reason many people playing a competitive videogame end up making an alt to get around their ladder anxiety // performance anxiety. And then weirdly enough they often do better on their alt acc because they have less ladder anxiety on that alt and can play closer to their full potential, and then when their alt overtakes their main they get ladder anxiety again (lol)...
Sounds like smurfing with extra mental steps
This person has just described smurfing but from like an empathetic perspective
Wanting to stomp ppl vs playing without worrying abt main rank is indeed smurfing but from a different direction lol
My main Im decent but my alt (same rank) I stomp every game
Which in my experience is something you just have to push through
Fr, it sucks but just fucking accept the fact that you’re nervous and care about doing well
Or it is just SBMM catching up to them
So is Asmongolds “full potential” being a disgusting chud?
Yes it’s who he is
oh i see, kinda reminds me of greek doing this too
I know of a german streamer collective that streams on a second channel before their "official" schedule because it doesn't hurt their average viewer numbers on the main channel, which is basically the only statistic number that interests potential advertisers.
Once they hit their official online time for the main channel they just raid it. That way they can stream at odd hours, without having to care about low viewership, lowering their average viewercount.
Another upside is they start with alot of people on their mainchannel. Not sure twitch is going to allow that in the near future though, the platform is losing money on that.
This is one of many reasons that youtubers will have second, third, and fourth channels. They separate the content if it's a little far from what the majority of their viewbase is looking for in their channel, but still have it linked together for "loyal" followers of the creators themselves. This way they don't have the 'blemish' of a poor performing off-topic video, on the main channel.
Eventually the alt just became his main channel.
Minus the 15 minutes intro
HOOD? modCheck
I forget when it started but i wanna say around Diablo 4 launch, but he said his main gave him anxiety because he had to put on the show that is Asmongold(i paraphrased)
Then his alt used to be, no cam, him just grinding doing a little chatting. But he wasen't making YT videos anymore which for 2-3 guys ment no income(catdany, dailydose, etc) so he started turning the cam on for 2-3 reactions for YT, then back to doing whatever. The channel just slowly evolved into his normal stream content that was on Asmongold
D4 was a year ago. He has been exclusively on his alt for like 2-3 years at this point.
Pretty sure it started when he was streaming one of the soulsbourne games and got mogged by a boss and rage quit
Almost forgot how laughably bad he was at DS3 - dude would over level content by 100 levels, face tank bosses with a shield and the heaviest armour you could equip and would pop ashes and weapon buffs every pull to down these most mundane of bosses. You could see in his time played he was practicing off-stream also for dozens of hours at a time.
It was the kinda setup you would give a 6 year old sibling to ‘play’ the game.
You could see in his time played he was practicing off-stream also for dozens of hours at a time.
Lmao I remember that, guy was getting destroyed permanently, didn't stream for a couple days and came back first trying Nameless King, having clearly practiced the fight for hours on hours just so he could act tough.
Ironically it would have been a really cool bit if he hadn't been so pathetically fragile about it
Why the fuck won't he stream on his main channel again? It's the same shit no?
Mental illness, unironically. He says the expectations are too high when he streams on that channel and it gives him anxiety, even though his stream content is basically identical regardless of channel.
when he first started his alt was originally no cam offline grinding games barely talking most of the time and when he did talk it was just about the game.
now his alt stream is literally the exact same as his old main with hot takes and clip baiting and everything. exact same content. so full mental illness.
I haven't seen a single asmongold/zackrawr transmog competition clip posted here in the last 2 years.
He was such a fun streamer before he became a react and opinion Andy. I'm a completionist in games and played WoW so his Legion-era stuff when he really started taking off was so fun. It sucks he got so far away from WoW, too. I know BFA was a drag and SL was utter garbage but if he'd have stuck it out to DF it could have been a lot of great content.
I'll always miss his 1 am start time streams from years ago when he had 2k viewers and I had a degenerate sleep schedule. Found him through WoW youtube guides and his streams were so fun back then.
Same here. Great times.
I know BFA was a drag and SL was utter garbage but if he'd have stuck it out to DF it could have been a lot of great content.
This is sadly very indicative of the mindset of a WoW player/addict. The very idea of saying "If only he stuck around for 4 years grinding content out of a game that was terribly unenjoyable to him, it would have been good content later on!" is insane to me.
It's not some sort of college degree to grind through man. Moving away from WoW was the best career decision he could ever make. It helped him understand that he does not have to play that game and suffer the ups and especially downs of it because his livelihood depended on it. Mentally absolutely a win, and career wise too.
So many WoW only streamers are stuck in that loop and can't do anything else, so get unhealthily and emotionally invested in what Blizzard does with the game.
Insightful comment. More people should realise when they're grinding a game vs when they are enjoying it, would change a lot of lives.
Mentally absolutely a win
I don't think he's winning any mental battles considering he's unable to stream on his main.
Culture war brainrot is dogshit for gaming as a whole, yet folks will act like they’re the only thing preventing the whole industry from collapsing when they yell on twitter about the most recent black character
I can’t even watch his new content anymore, it’s just not for me. I hate the way he just cycles through whatever’s the most talked about games as well.
I guess this is the natural progression of a streamer it would seem, but I thought his WoW content was his peak. Nobody ever made a game look as fun as Asmon did with WoW.
I think Peak WoW content was when he would log in everyday and farm nightmare vision stormwind for the mail muncher.
That shit was peak.
It sucks - I only got into watching Twitch at all as an escape from the day to day in 2020 when lockdowns first started. It was mainly just listening to or watching Asmongold each day as a break from being isolated - since both my parents were older and had cancer.
Once his channel turned into reaction, drama, and politics commentary it was no longer an escape for me.
Sorry about your folks eh. My dad died of cancer, we had his funeral the week before lockdown here, was glad people were able to celebrate his life.
Hope you and they are in a better place now.
I pretty much leave a stream the moment they start talking about IRL stuff, drama and co. outside the start of their stream (which is reasonable to let people gather, proven to be important regarding viewership) and maybe some food break.
And often enough I unsubscribe once it happens more than once a week.
I want background sound which is about video games and fun stuff, not someone unqualified talking about IRL stuff, giving their bad opinions and takes.
He was such a fun streamer before he became a react and opinion Andy.
I didnt want to be a hater and a doomer but I fully share this opinion.
I started watching Asmon back in the Huolon/Bufo days and the dude was honestly a comedic genius when it came to WoW stuff. Like a Gordon Ramsey who could roast his own viewers in creative ways.
WoW eventually got bad and boring, and he started doing variety. At first I really enjoyed the idea of Asmon doing variety, especially because he'd play my favorite games. (Souls).
But he struggled a lot with performance anxiety. Whenever he would fail it felt like he was about to have a mental breakdown, which was very hard to watch.
Then he started to react more and more. Eventually I stopped watching him, even though I still follow his channels. Every day or two I hover over his stream and he's either reacting to some video-essay andy or has the chat-history of a viewer open and is basically debating them.
Worst thing is the community by now. It has become an unbearable army of incels, it actually hurts reading chat or his sub by now..
It's really sad, I was a huge fan of his since later MoP/WoD. Then sadly his mom passed and then the Johnny Depp trial stuff completely wrecked his ego and showed him how easy reaction content was. The FF streams were the last time things felt really fun, but even those got cancelled despite him promising multiple times.
It was a blessing in disguise, but I got perma banned from his subreddit with no warning. I think it was because I made a few comments saying that him arguing with chat was getting old and that I missed more community driven content like transmog comps. Realized I was becoming way too parasocial with the dude, lmao.
But yeah WoD-Legion was definitely his high, WoD was especially great because he made content and a community inside of WoW despite the lack of content.
I don't watch wow so the only time I watched him was when he was playing XIV. And I did enjoy those
I think him getting bored of/not liking streaming wow content is a lot of the reason he moved off the main channel. There are still people who would go to the asmongold channel expecting wow stuff but if you followed him to Zackrawr you know that's not an expectation. Now he's trapped himself in react andy content so as he stops doing that we'll probably see another shift or at the very least a long break. A lot of 1 game streamers have talked about this issue, the difference for asmon is that he gets mentally affected by viewers more so than others who have managed to refocus their channel away from a main game.
I wouldn’t say he’s trapped. He’s made it very clear on several occasions he likes what he reacts to and his format of doing things.
Just like he liked streaming WoW before, I meant he's trapped as in if he stops doing it his audience will complain in the same way they did before and he'll feel like he's forced to do it. I guess theoretically he could never get tired of it but we'll see.
He was one of the first people I followed on twitch several years ago, during the reck/pop adventure era in Japan. Removed him a few months ago though, his content changed a lot.
I think when Pink sparkles left him, he was filled with a void knowing smaller chests will never fill that emptiness.
I miss his WoW streams :(
good ol days of talking shit with mcconnell and doing xmog comps in garrison back in WOD
He did a transmog comp like a week or two ago, guess it wasn’t posted
it was
saw he did one a short bit ago like the other fella said, cant wait to watch it and see the classic "now get on the mount" into disappointment combo
He had his first transmog comp in months (years?) a few weeks ago. The only reason he did it was because it was sponsored by Blizzard.
He’s been too busy being Texan DramaAlert.
He and Emi did one like two weeks ago.
He just posted a new one recently
He did a transmog comp recently with Emiru. A clip of him challenging her to name 5 mounts and she named 5 of the starter horse mounts that humans have access to got pretty good traction.
He did one like a week ago, but before that, i can't think of any he has done during Dragonflight.
He’s the only one who has those expectations of his main channel. His chat couldn’t give two shits if he acted the exact same on both channels.
I think one of the times he took a leave it fucked him up in the head and he got upset about feeling like he cheated people who were subbed to him
You might be right. What’s funny is that there’s people who ask to sub to his alt. He explains why you can’t and then chat directs the viewer to his main.
It's probably related to viewcount. I think he cares about viewcount on his main channel because it's monetized so he feels like he's "playing the game" and losing if it drops. On his alt he doesn't have to care about viewcount because it's below his old numbers.
He is a fcking gremlin
He used to just berate his watchers on his alt lol might of been a stress release.
Full mental illness are those which having still their sub running on first channel or even on multiple
Nah, his main channel had at least somewhat entertaining shit, his current alt stream is horrible, every time I open his stream it's either him pulling a chatter's logs and talking to them directly so he could feel a power trip about "owning!!!" some 13 yo chatter or he's reacting to some shitty "MODERN FEMINISM IS RUINING OUR WORLD!!!" "WOKENESS HAS KILLED MY FAMILY AND CHILDREN :(" type of videos
Asmon has a very bad mental illness unfortunately, not just that but everything else he’s been doing, he said he can’t even smell mould anymore but he has multiple dead animals in his house at the moment and he can smell them, imagine how bad your mental health needs to get to justify that and not even care about it.
This kinda made me sad. He legit has fuck you money. Enough to get a professional cleaning team to bring the house in a pristine condition every single week and reading this made me question reality.
Enough to get a professional cleaning team to bring the house in a pristine condition every single week and reading this made me question reality.
Nobody can help someone that doesn't want help.
He took on his mom's hoarding and won't get rid of anything.
unfortunately i think he's afraid that if he hires someone to clean they'll unironically call the city to condemn his house which has basically been rotting since his childhood
which terrifies him because it has so many memories & it's a big connection to his mom who he clearly misses a ton & is still fucked up over losing
sadly he kind of inherited her hoarder mindset as well as her "who cares" mindset which creates a death spiral of him never wanting things to change & also never wanting to improve so he just lets things fall apart thinking "this is fine"
He needs someone to clean his brain first.
The mess is a symptom, not the problem. He has made it quite clear he has no intention of fixing anything because he won't admit anything is even wrong. He has built up this absolutely gargantuan house of cards of justifications, excuses, and "reasons" for what he does and how he lives.
And other than his obviously terrible physical health, and his very masked terrible mental health, he has been generously rewarded for acting this way his entire life.
I had depression really bad at one point and was living in my room where you couldn’t see the floor or my bed due to trash. Literally sleeping on garbage, point being it’s gotta be really fucking bad
That’s horrible I can’t even comprehend that level of mental strife, sorry you went through that
Mama ain’t raise no bitch got me through that part of my life. It still pops up every now and then
I'm in a similar position right now for the past 5 years taking care of my mid 70s dad. No dead animals but just stuff piled up on counters and bed since he cant reach from the floor, I have to move stuff from one spot to another just to get to another room.
Things have gotten a lot better this year and I'm not gonna lie that getting a big fat raise at work was the main thing that helped, better food, better care, etc. Was even able to plant trees this spring.
I love my dad and it was tough but at least things are starting to slowly turn around.
And he's the guy that his viewers take advice from...let that sink in.
Does he not hire regular cleaners? I've heard he's messy but I don't know anything more.
no dude. He once totally used that salt shaker on stream 12 years ago for 20 seconds, so it must stay exactly where he placed it afterwards on the shelf in his room. forever.
No. His rationale is that he grew up poor and more or less not taking care of himself or his things, so he's comfortable in that environment and he is extremely frugal.
I personally think it goes a bit deeper than that and I am not a psychologist but his situation reminds me a lot of hoarders and OCD, fear of change.
His mom was a hoarder and he took that on too.
Yup, been following him for awhile and he made this transition to his second channel shortly after his mom died. He suddenly just stopped streaming on there around the same time he quit playing FFXIV. I wouldn’t doubt it has something to do with his obvious depression and her death.
I remember him making fun of weak minded people while he has mental breakdowns weekly complaining about shit he can easily fix
Projection
when someone first explained the reasoning to me, I swear I almost had a stroke because of how stupid the reason was.
i mean, mental health isnt super logical. Dude is just anxious as shit.
I have anxiety whenever I hear my name being called by women with a certain regional accent in my country due to issues from my childhood.
Mental stuff can be stupidly specific or nonsensical.
I unironically miss the no cam super relaxed mmo grind streams that he used to do, no drama, 10k viewers so the chat was a lot more discussion oriented instead of reactions to content on the screen
It kind of made sense for like a minute when viewers expected WoW and the character. But no one cares about WoW anymore and its long since gone back to the character instead of just quietly playing games and kind of interacting.
its kinda not - asmongold is his stage name - the one that got him big - so from his pov using the main channel comes with lots of implications of how he has to behave etc - where zackrawr is his „private“ where he does what he wants - because it is not influenced by the burdens of „being“ asmongold
like a singer that can sing awesome jut the moment she has to perform under her stagename falls apart because of the fear to fuck up
Funnily (not really) enough, that expectation was entirely built by him. In the early days of his second channel there actually was a clear quality difference between his second and first channel streams, but over time, he just replaced first channel streams with second channel streams and as a result the "quality" of his second channel went up significantly. So the comparative quality his first channel would now have to achieve, in order to achieve the same discrepancy as before, is unattainable.
Honestly, if he was mentally in a healthier place he should just say fuck it, nuke his second channel and stream on his first channel, regardless of quality and then nuke every chatter that wants to chat shit, but with his broken mind state, there is no way he can endure the mountain of mockery this would result in and he is way too mentally fragile to just ignore his chatters for a week or two.
Twitch should probably never have allowed this second channel shit in the first place, not just for their bottom line, but for the streamers health in general. Wouldn't be surprised if they update their TOS at some point to just allow people to have more than one channel
Yeah, that’s just straight up delusion
I think that anxiety from the main channel partly comes from the amount of money he was making from it. On the alt there's no money being made so it's more comfortable, and zero ads too
When he started streaming fulltime zackrawr, he was just doing chocobo races on ff14, infinitely grinding while giving close to no commentary, and when he talked he had a monotone voice that creeped me out, you know that voice like you are tired and have no emotion? was he on drugs or something?
now he's pretty much asmongold again, but that time was crazy.
I feel like if someone could wade through his heap to the pc and just swap the stream key he wouldn’t notice
I've noticed a lot of people start doing this too, even among Vtubers.
A lot of people feel like they have to "put on a show" on their main channel which I guess creates this unachieveable responsibility in their heads and initially when making a secondary channel they act as though it's just gonna be a place to relax, but then they end up making the same content there anyway.
It has become quite common, a lot of streamers do it.
iirc months ago he was streaming on his main and a forced ad interrupted him when he was ranting, and he got so triggered he ended the stream
and even since then he streams on his unpartnered alt to avoid making his viewers watch ads
I was wondering about that. These days he is basically asmongold on zackrawr. And when he only occasionally streamed on zackrawr, the was always sounding so depressed. Like there was no life left in him. But these days there's no difference, except he doesn't say sup you all it's asmongold.
Yea I remember him just talking with no energy doing wow chores for hours.
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Clancy was talking about his stream costing them money on another interview. Can't recall specifics, but he's got to be one of the only big streams out there taking no monetisation, at least via twitch. No subs, no ads, but around 25k average viewers, with huge spikes into the hundreds of thousands for big events
Crazy that he's been streaming on Zackrawrr full-time for 3 years now and the channel is just now being forced into partnership.
time for the 3rd account
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I can't believe they don't do it already tbh.
I honestly thought they did for non-affiliate/non-partners
I'd imagine it's because Twitch knows it is likely to damage channel growth by pushing viewers away from these very small streamers (IE below 50 followers).
Reaching affiliate isn't hard to do and Twitch wants anyone who streams regularly to become an affiliate. They then want you to run ad breaks, which you have an incentive to do as you earn money from it.
Asmon's alt is just very much an outlier for a regularly streaming, yet non-affiliate/partner account.
I'd imagine it's because they can't verify that the smaller streamer doesn't break content guidelines for ads, that's the whole point of youtube's demonetization system which twitch doesn't have.
There is no reason they couldn't just run ads when a channel is of a certain size.
This change for non-partners has been theorized by some of the people who pay attention to the goings on. Zach Bussey has suspicions, that I have heard specifically.
The CEO said they could. So they might. https://youtu.be/WA26q9mLtn8?si=pHictmIFYbJOCWq7
Why the fuck is this upvoted?
bootlicker take
Why would you want that? Do you like ads?
I like the sort of people that watch asmongold being forced to watch ads
There are still working adblockers for twitch, I haven't had to modify mine for about a year now.
Everyone knows you by Asmongold go back to Asmongold it’s time.
Didn't xqc say he won't be running ads only the pre rolls that twitch enforces, asmon could do that.
It's almost as if having no ads actually makes for a good viewing experience and makes people want to stay and watch
I personally don't watch him for a long time but it's nice to pop in and just check out what stuff he is talking about without having to get brain rot from another uber eats delivery ad
I was watching a Summit stream the other day, he was playing some Day Z, watched for about 15 minutes as they prepped to drop down a hole. As soon as he dropped I got possibly 5/6 ads, seemed to happen to others in the chat as people were frantically kicking off about it. I just turned off Twitch, couldn't be arsed after that at all.
Twitch doesn’t want you to stay and watch if you aren’t seeing ads. You don’t generate revenue and you cost bandwidth.
It’s like when people threaten to quit watching YouTube if they disable all adblockers somehow. YouTube sees that threat and thinks “good.”
I don’t think that’s true at all. I think they both go hand in hand. Twitch can use the numbers to market themselves.
If YouTube had higher viewer numbers then streamers would simply start moving over losing twitch the ad revenue they would otherwise be getting.
I’m sure they just push back on it to get data on who accepts the ads and who fights back and gets another ad blocker.
Streaming high definition video is just expensive. Very expensive. Even at the discounted rate or at-cost pricing twitch has with Amazon IVS it is still extremely expensive to stream video to 20 thousand viewers for 10 hours and receive no revenue from it.
At the same time 20 thousand is just a small % of total twitch viewership. Cost-benefit is nowhere near good enough to letting it continue.
Market themselves to who exactly? What is the value add of having a high user count that you apparently can't serve ads to?
Pre-rolls are cancer. If it's that time of the week/month where my ad blockers stop working, I literally have to watch Asmon, because I'm not going to sit and wait for 30-120s for ads to finish before I start enjoying a stream.
And as a League viewer, ads popping up in the middle of a match literally ruins the viewing experience. I lose track of the match and the hype for the mid/end game is wasted because I missed it.
I wouldn't mind ads nearly as much if they were delivered in a way that didn't detract from the content. But ads on Twitch quite literally are 0/10 trash tier ads. Always have to watch before you tune into the content and they sometimes appear right in the middle of the content, so you miss out. It's significantly worse than TV where at least viewers can change the channel when ads are on and come back later to view the rest of the program. They don't literally miss the show they were watching because ads played.
Could do literally anything else with your time lmfao. No one is forcing you to watch Asmongold.
least melodramatic r/lsf user
without having to get brain rot from another uber eats delivery ad
yeah now you get brainrot just by hearing him talk
They took it long enough
Just stream on Kick if you dont want ads?
He’s been costing Twitch a load of money by exclusively streaming on this channel
It's crazy how he had a girl over (who was obvs there for the money) and it was only then she realized asmon isn't putting on an act, he really lives like a creature and the blood booger wall is indeed real.
The equivalent of a spritual healer actually coming into contact with a possed person
The good thing about his channel is the lack of ads. I'll vote for a 3rd channel
suffering from success
Nah he’s suffering from mental illness he’s literally doing the same thing he did on his main channel. He says streaming on his main channel gives him anxiety and can’t keep up with the expectations but he literally doing the same thing he would do on his main. Dude got issues.
I don't understand how is that anyone else's problem. It hurts no one.
If he feels 5% better because it isn't monetized, then that is all it takes. It doesn't have to make sense to anyone but him.
LSF has a massive hate boner for him. The majority of the threads that feature this dude devolve into nothing but shit talking him.
LSF has a massive hate boner for streamers, period. This is a streamer hate sub. The big streamers get it worse than others but there's a large contingency of people here who just flat-out hate all streamers for one reason or another.
I used to not watch Twitch up until about two years ago. I hated people talking about streamers like celebrities. Irked me pretty badly that people would drool over some dude on the internet playing a video game. I would join in with the "fuck asmon" chatters in World chat on WoW.
But then I stopped listening to all of the hate and decided to actually tune in to watch him myself and form my own opinion. And it was then that I realized that a lot of the people who hate on him are just as mentally ill as they say he is. It's clear that 99% of the people who hate on him don't actually watch him, they just parrot all of the out of context shit that people on Twitter say.
So people have to like him?? "hAtE boner''? You mean genuine critique? Dude and his fanbase are judgmental know it all edgelords, check his subreddit if you don't believe me.
he should just leave his main channel on 24 hour cycle, just play commercials
It was bound to happen if your top 5 on the site they want the 💰.
Tbf livestreaming to like 30k viewers for like 8 hrs a day costs a shit ton of money.
This is an estimate but using this website it says it costs them about 15k a day if you assume Asmongold is streaming 8 hrs a day for an average of 30k viewers. Obviously those aren't always his numbers but since Asmongold has been streaming on the 2nd channel for more than 2 years now it's safe to assume it cost them millions already so it's understandable for any business to resort to this.
Honestly surprised it took them this long.
I haven't watched Asmongold in ages, but I hope he can get through whatever he's battling on the inside. Real depression is awful if you've ever been through it. Don't wish that feeling on anyone.
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I'm just saying, why the fuck isn't this just in his contract?
Kinda weirdly honest of Twitch to have a non compete of that sort
Nobody knows what's in his contract. My guess is that it probably is but they were just lenient because the eyeballs he brought to the site are worth it regardless, but they didn't expect him to actually do this for years.
Time to make a 3rd then
I watch his stream partly because there's no ads, otherwise I literally close twitch if I get an ad. I can't do it.
further on in the clip asmon talks about growth twitch and someone mentions hot tub streams and he says they dont matter and that they barley go anywhere and the peak of them are only like 1k viewers. he jokes say dont tell twitter that though.
Isnt he one of the biggest farmers of the twitch=pornsite narrative lmao
His point that you just mentioned is about the cost of hosting a stream to many viewers. His point about twitch=pornsite is about putting them on the front page and their inability to take a more stance on where the line is for nearly naked women on twitch. Those are 2 completely different things.
That definitely wasn't in the clip. I watched the whole clip and he didn't talk about this at all.
If you are going to partner zack I wonder why not just go back to Asmongold and make Zack the alt channel again for smaller streams now and again.
The lengths that people go through to rationalize this is honestly insane to me. Why do YOU care what he does? He’s just a regular guy. You are the agitator, not him. If he wants to steam on a 2nd, 3rd, 4th channel - why does that matter to you? Why does that matter at all to anyone? If it has something to do with a subscription fee or something, just don’t subscribe?
If someone other than asmongold said he not running ads and cost twitch a lot of money, lsf respond is surely different than this nonsensical hate toward someone who consciously go and operate against the system.
Which is costly for twitch itself, 2 years with average $12k cost per stream is huge damage.
I thought lsf hate amazon. Oh, they just love being toxic and salty.
I remember a pirate software short where he show with a calculator which i want to know the site where he did it. But for his channel with 8k viewers that stream at 1080p cost twitch for 8 hours over 4k dollar per stream.
How long until he creates another faux anxiety channel lmao
Im not sure I understand what "faux" or "fake" has to do with him claiming anxiety? From what I understand his mothers death exacerbated the anxiety significantly, effectively turning his main channel into a "no-go zone" of mental illness.
CLIP MIRROR: Asmon says his 2nd channel will likely be forced to partner soon because his average viewer count has gotten so high he is now costing twitch a lot of money by not having ads run on the channel.
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