I'm 80 years old, no degree, and no teeth. I worked as a factory foreman for the past 45 years, but I'm getting tired of it and looking for a change in pace. I saw some action in 'nam, so I got the veteran's box checked for the college financials. I'm thinking of starting out in community college and taking some classes with a goal of eventually getting to law school and breaking into a V50 firm and making partner. Is it too late for me? Any advice?
I was curious and searched for this and somehow there is no law school circle jerk sub
https://www.reddit.com/r/lawschoolcirclejerk/s/2rlU5gkVcy I made one if anyone is interested lmao.
Go for it. Teeth have always been overrated.
Luxury bones
I'm afraid your number of teeth is wayyyyyy below the median of every law school in the country; it's going to be an uphill battle, even with a good LSAT and GPA. Write an addendum, but even then the tooth thing just makes law school a real gamble. Sorry, bud.
I think WashU allows you to redact the number of teeth you have from the application. So holistic.
The amount of posts here that miss the satire is the real satire of the profession.
Too early homie. You need to become a the CEO of that factory before you even think about become a lawyer.
This is the way
Someone in their early (?) 70s got accepted to med school in Sweden some years ago. He had the grades and the SAT score and while there are age restrictions on student aid, there is no enrollment age cap. And given that med school in Sweden is a combined undergraduate-graduate program, we would be looking at an 80-year-old resident with board certification a few years down the road. When media caught wind of the story, there was a lot of pressure and petitions from students denied admission. I think he voluntarily withdrew in the end.
But for someone who got his law degree and passed the bar in his 40s (40, but still) that guy is my guiding star. And if this post were real, I would have said, hey, go for it!
Invest in implants first and law school will be a breeze.
Even if this is a joke, there are people in my law school, some of whom just graduated yesterday and last year, respectively, in their 50s and 60s. Apparently, there may be a 1L in her 70s this coming year. Furthermore, there was a woman my 1L year in her 50s who worked at my law school. When I finished my 1L year, she left her job at my law school to matriculate at another law school. Sheâs now a year behind me. She is a rising 2L.
Iâm not sure why I read this thread, but I will offer my two cents. I am retired now and simply canât imagine going to school long enough to get a law degree in your fifties or sixties and then planning on working. I like being retired.
I had a successful career in my 20's and retired at 30. I raised 2 kids as a widow in my 30's. Went back to school in my 40's for a Bachelor's, Master's, and I just graduted Law School yesterday at the age of 50. Being retired was so boring after the first year. I can't imagine having nothing to do and just waiting to die! I want to do volunteer work with my law degree now!
I will graduate law school at 50 next year. I had a great career and worked my ass off, raised kids, got a masters and wanted to have the same schedule as my kids so I worked at a school but I was bored. I plan on working until I die, everyone I know that retires gets sick or has a stroke or gets a part time job. I want to do something that will help people out and keep me busy. I only plan on working as much as I want. It's not about money or power or success for me. It's about doing something worthwhile to help people and use my brain.
Iâd just like to point outâŚ. You retiring at 30, means you worked a max of 12 years⌠So you âretiringâ after only working 12 years isnât the same as someone who works for 40 years and then wants to retire. Trying to compare the two is quite special. Most people donât retire until their 70âs or later because they actually have to work to survive, and donât have the financial privilege to be able to stay at home for 20 years raising two children without having to work. And to add the amount it costs to get a BA, MA, and a law degree which was clearly paid out of pocket shows a level of privilege that most people donât have or experience in life. The general population canât retire after 12 years, at the age of 30, and be financially stable enough to raise two children without having to work. Most have to work through their 20âs, 30âs, 40âs, 50âs, and 60âs because we donât have that type of wealth. So consider yourself very fortunate. But donât try to compare you retiring at 30, and say some ignorant thing about not imagining what it would be like to not work or having nothing to do. Because thatâs literally what you did for 20 years, since you didnât need to work for money to pay your bills. Which is not what most people in retirement have experienced⌠As they worked for 40 years before retiring. So maybe try working for a full 20 or 40 years before saying youâd hate being retired again⌠đđ¤Ą
The no teeth sent me.
Retake and reapply
My advice is to let people go after their dreams, and not concern yourself with gatekeeping or making fun of those that try. The admissions department will make the decision on who can get in.
I know this is likely a troll post and all.
But, I know of a guy who was a medical doctor. In his 60s, he got a law degree.
He's a centennarian now and still is active and teaches medical school. I don't know if he still actively practices law though.
nah, man. youâll be good.
youâll have to deal with the littles, but itâs not that bad. theyâre endlessly entertaining
Found Pierce Hawthorneâs Reddit account
All power to you man, it's great that you're going after your dreams, but... are you sure you wanna go to law school? It's a whole rigmarole, borderline hazing at times, and DEFINITELY a lot of work
Do it just do it
Never too late to chase your dreams, bro. Go for it!
It's never too late for now.
We had a retired doctor in my class. Went to big law.
I know this is a shitpost
Youâll get a scholarship for sure!
Hahah oh man, I get it. Good one!
Youâll need a good disguise
I donât know why people covet law school so much. Now that I am in it. Itâs honestly so much. The intellectual challenge sure. Itâs just debt. And some pseudo important title. You could do great. I think riding the ai wave is smarter if you have elite high level thinking. Although being a lawyer could be valuable. Itâs a slow burn. And yes in a way you are running out of time. You could live to 100 though who knows.
If you already have money and have that veteran money plus VA loan. You actually have a way better spread there. Law school is a psyop unless you have tremendous luck. Itâs a stupid concept. Who wants to be recognized to be the hardest and best worker. I rather be smart. I donât. Itâs hard to outwork the gunners.
Most states have laws on the books that say if you are over 65 or 70 (depends on the state) and you can get in (GPA/LSAT/app package) then you can go to the a state-supported law school (usually the flagship) for free.
If your goal is only v50, you donât have what it takes. Only people who set their sights on v10 partnership should even consider law school.
I get the joke here but obviously this riffs on the many posts where people ask if they are too old to attend law school. My question is too old to what exactly at law school?
Fit in with 20 somethings? Yeah, unless they want to make you their clique mascot or something.
Make good grades? Maybe, the educational environment has shifted considerably, you will get task saturated in readings and briefs; if that type of analytical work isn't something used on the regular, it will be easy to get lost.
Neuroplasticity doesn't allow for new concepts to take hold? This is a problem two ways, learning adaptivity and cognitive dissonance; young folks are quick to try new world views as older peeps who have learned to survive with the world view they built over time are less likely to discard it because someone who spent the last 20+ years in academia says so.
Cover the costs? Shit ain't cheap and I don't think the stats bear out any promising indicators on mid/late stage older folks getting scholarships.
Workforce timeline expectancy? I'm already hearing rumors on how age is a negative for big and mid law since they won't be able to immediately convince you to work down to the nubs.
Enjoy the hustle? For older people with families there's a concern that you could just be giving up 3 years of time and financial security/peace to prove something to yourself. 10+ if loans are necessary and things "go according to plan", dependent on what specialty you fall in with or what office you decide to call a second home.
People have done it before and will continue to do so well after. It's case by case on whether the juice is worth the squeeze. The risks are great but experience should help older students appreciate and mitigate those risks.
(yes, super cool that you have an anecdotal story that demonstrates an exception, further highlighting the rule)
I think the one I didn't see coming as much was buyer's jadedness. The older, nontraditional students like myself have a habit, I think, of placing the law on a pedestal. The rigorousness, the costs, the potential respect are all very real but have also been teased out as "purpose driven" by American culture. The underlying truth to this is the law is gatekept, and intentionally so. There's so much open source information on the law at this point, you could piecemeal a SYH experience together by going through barbri and studicata. Granted you need a JD to generally practice in all but 2ish states, however the knowledge that gets you there is pretty easy to come by. The poor but well-balanced smart kid lottery equalling 10-20%ish of T14 classes ignores the wealthy who make up the majority and simply see admissions as a formality. Older students pick up to the game a little quicker it seems, probably because they don't trust as easily and have watched other institutional systems maintain status quo at all costs. Realizing that this was trading in one set of beat up socioeconomic hand cuffs for a more subtle, sleeker set sucks.
If you're young, consider the angles. If you're old, consider the angles. Age is just an indicator on how long you will be able to practice. Check all the young faculty members at law schools making peanuts with their JD who spent 5 minutes in the law before bouncing for something low anxiety. Conversely, talk to successful older students who hit their peak just before/during/right after law school but still going strong with family and career goals. Clint Eastwood is making/directing/starring in Oscar nominated films in his 90s. At 5'8, Spud Webb won the 86' NBA dunk contest. Don't be a self fulfilling prophecy that because you are/not a certain thing, you can/not do a certain thing. You probably won't be a Spud or a Clint, but overcoming challenges will make you that much more prepared for the next one.
No youâre never too late and I think itâs a very good idea cos I think it will really broaden your knowledge on a whole lot
Run for president
I say !! Go for it!! Educate yourself, become a great lawyer.. you will hopefully help others and it will prolong your life force long time!! I am already proud of you!!!
the time will pass anyways- might as well!
Go for it!
I donât think this is funny. Itâs endemic of some law studentsâ vapid need to look down on people who donât have the same education or accomplishments. This is the reason people hate lawyers. Whatâs the basis?
My response to this if it was a genuine post would be - if you enjoy reading and writing, obtaining a legal education is a wonderful way to spend your twilight years. However, I would suggest a less stringent, non traditional program for you because the traditional way that students study law can be stressful and may be detrimental to your health at your age.
Lawyers are also called counselors. I wish we would remember that.
I think this is a highly inconsiderate post, even as a joke. I imagine OP has little to no life or professional experience.
Right? As an 75 year old prospective applicant hoping to sit for the LSAT in August, who has most of his teeth still, I find this just distasteful and obtuse.
I am 80 and have my teeth however they are mostly in my vagina
Ain't no way we got lawschool circle jerkđ