Loot filters are a little complicated for an idiot like me

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Edit: Thanks for the helpful comments everyone. I’ll do some more configs and try some more filters out with the recommendations. If the devs just need feedback on this anyways, perhaps some premade basic filters as examples may be handy as universal basics, again, for idiots like myself.

I’ve been playing for about 5 hours now on my first character and was having a good time picking up literally everything and just stashing it away for later til I started reading about how you should just sell everything instead for an abysmal amount of gold. Which is where I then learned about the loot filter so you don’t even need to see what drops unless it is worth it… according to the configured filter.

Now this is also where I spent 3 hours looking up a ton of guides, walkthroughs, and premade filters which was an absolute information OVERLOAD. I tried using the “noob friendly leveling filter” variations and even those had a ton of options you have to know what to select or not and as a new player who barely knows the ins and outs of stats and gear and class specific stuff yet I’m just… lost.

So I tried making my own super simple ignore all white and blue items. Simple enough, right? Wrong. Because apparently while leveling blues are still useful. Then you have additional stuff like ignoring anything not your class, focusing on potential build specific stats only to show up etc. again no idea what the heck I’m doing and just overwhelmed with information and a dilemma of missing out on gear vs having too much useless gear and having to portal back and forth back and forth.

On the topic of portaling, apparently this resets the map and if you port next to a chest, it’ll just respawn and can get… you guessed it… more loot to manage. Is this an exploit or something as well? I feel like you could just sit there all day clicking the same chest.

Anyways… why have useless items in the game at all if there isn’t even a salvage system?

in LastEpochby TheGrandWhatever

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SoupOrMan692

1mo

I unlocked empowered monoliths with some jank build i came up with and no loot filter on my first character (SAF).

Don't obsess about this stuff until you actually hit a roadblock in gameplay IMHO.

Panda_Bunnie

1mo

I'm amazed you could last that long without a filter, i literally had to make one at like lv 7 or so because there were already too much garbage dropping.

Dasterr

1mo

On my first char I also had no filter forever until I put some time i to it

on my second char I had a very basic filter (hide normal and magic items) after the first city

TheGrandWhatever

1mo

Thanks. I guess that’s also part of my issue too is that some people are saying they won’t play without them, some people do play without them, and then there’s the middle of those which is where I’d sit but the config for them can truly get complicated

GiganticMac

1mo

You definitely learn to adjust and play with your loot filter more as you continue to level and learn what exactly your build is looking for. I wouldnt stress too much about it while leveling. You can definitely turn off all whites and probably blues. And then you don’t have to pick up every single piece of loot you see, although I would recommend saving all uniques you find until really late game. A good rule of thumb is, if you’re not going to use that piece of gear immediately, or at least have a plan for when specifically you will use it, then don’t bother saving it because you’ll never actually use it. Just hover something, see if it’s an upgrade to what you currently have and if not then just ignore it. And in due time you will learn more specifically what you’re looking for and it will make managing your loot filter much easier

Koravel1987

Falconer

1mo

Look up Raxxanterax "the only loot filter you will ever need" on YouTube. 25 min video all you ever need to know about loot filters and a preset loot filter you can customize for your build.

DrMarloLake

1mo

https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/

Click '+ Create Loot Filter' and then 'Filter Wizard'

Usually does a great job at providing something 'good enough'.

Once you begin seeing too much on the ground, or decide to tweak/fine tune your build, definitely worth investing some time into learning how to build/modify them on your own (imo). But if you just want something in place to cull majority of undesirable drops, that tool should do it for you.

Good Luck!

painseer

1mo

My advice is: 1. Watch a couple of YouTube videos about how to use the filter. 2. Start off really simple. Once all your gear is blue then block whites. When all your gear is yellow block blues. This should help to declutter initially (there are exceptions but you won’t use any of this gear in the late game so if you get it wrong no big deal) 3. Make sure your top most rule is show all uniques, set items and exalteds. Do not change this until you understand what you are doing! 4. If you see a purple or orange glow from a piece of gear on the ground but do not see it show up - hold x or try pressing Alt + z until you see it. If this is happening then you may have not followed step 3 (or a bug or have toggled alt + z) 5. Start playing around with the Recolor option in the filter. Set a couple with different colours for key affixes for your build - maybe highlight +levels to chthonic fissure if you are playing warlock or movement speed on your boots. See what happens - is every second thing red now? Maybe your filter was too broad. 6. Once you figure out this character some other filters that are helpful are: - filters for your next characters - filters for rare affixes to use the rune of shattering or rune of removal on - filters for T7 or double T6 exalts - for mages specifically you may want to create a filter for finding gear that craft into a fractured crown.

Anyway don’t stress, you’ll be farming better gear later. Now is the time to learn and experiment.

Oh and don’t forget to have fun!!

shaded_grove

1mo

Mine is quite simple with 2 rules: the lowest rule is hide all normal/magic/rare. All I need above that is one show rule for affixes I want on the gear and select weapons I want. The 5 minutes it takes to look through the affixes you want saves you lots of time while playing.

Obvious-Jacket-3770

1mo

Go watch Raxx video on YouTube. He wrote an AMAZING filter that will cover 99% of your needs for any build or any class.

DrMarloLake

1mo

Finished reading your post... Regarding your final sentence - one mans trash is another mans treasure ;)

Canzas

Runemaster

1mo

Just watch this This is good in my opinion also you can watch other his videos. Raxxanterax is OP

islander1

1mo

You could always just copy a decent pre-existing one. It's incredibly easy to import copy/paste...easier then POE.

TakovEnjoyer

1mo

Your last question doesn't even make sense. There IS a salvage system. Runes of Shattering...

EnderCN

1mo

If you are uncomfortable with the loot filter try just recoloring a few things you think you don't want. This way you can still look at them and after a time when you really feel comfortable that you never want to pick up anything of that color you can switch it to hiding them.

Every item in the game is useful at some point and under some condition. There is no way to make a games loot such that every single item that drops is useful to your specific class and build.

Malscant

1mo

I watched a video on loot filters from raxx he walks you through everything and gets it set up for your class and build works very well. link

EchoLocation8

1mo

Personally I'd rather just use a noob friendly loot filter and don't touch it at all, just look at what it decides to show you. Or just don't use a loot filter and look at items as you go.

The short of it though is that rules are obeyed on the loot filter from top to bottom, its not a combination of a set of rules, items obey a single rule only. Meaning if your top rule is "show all rares" and your bottom rule is "hide all rares that are for Druids" or something, that second rule will never be used because the rule above it is less specific.

Rules must be entered, top to bottom:

Specific -> Unspecific

So you generally want rules like: "Hide all normal/magic/rare items" to be at the very bottom so that if the item is not caught by any rule above it, it will be hidden.

Depending on what level you are, I would probably just start with a basic filter:

Show all Rares, Exalts, Uniques, Set items (despite what some people say, there's some great leveling Set items you can find).
Hide all normal, magic items.

And dont' expand this until later when you understand the game more and understand your class more, anything beyond this is basically preference. Eventually you'll want to start filtering out most irrelevant rares, then irrelevant exalted items as well.

MuteSecurityO

1mo

Here’s a basic one that I use

Show > Rarity > Exalted, Set, Unique
Hide > Class requirement > any other class (this also hides idols which people may want to see from other classes)
Hide > Item Type > select all other weapon types you’re not going to be using (so if you know you are gonna use a bow and quiver, check everything except those)

After that you may want to highlight specific affixes but that requires you know what kind of build you’re going to be using. Either way stuff like Movement speed, + level of your main skill, and your main damage type are going to be useful. If you want to do that then it’s:

Recolor (pick a color different than yellow, purple, green, and orange) > Item affix > search for “movement speed” or the name of your skill, etc.
Hide > Rarity > Normal, Magic. (If you’re just getting started leave this off until you have at least all normal items then enable normal. Then when you have all magic some rare you can add in magic. The reason for rule 4 is that it will still show magic items that have important affixes like movement speed and + to your main skill, etc.)

ImplicitsAreDoubled

1mo

Lastepochtools.com does have a loot filter wizard builder

Red-Leader117

1mo

I legit won't play a build if I can't find a look filter online it's easily the most QoL thing out there. I can rest easy good loot will be flagged and just play the game

bikunoob

Void Knight

1mo

Raxx is a streamer and I use his filter as a base. Once I got 'rich' with the recommended affixes, I just add more conditions or affix towards the shards I have less of depending on the gear and my own build (which is warpath echo void knight).

50_centavos

1mo

Because apparently while leveling blues are still useful.

My first two rules were:

-Show blue/yellow with combined tiers of greater/equal to 8

-Hide all white/blue/yellow

That way it cuts down on the items you see but still shows you ones worth looking at. Then I added more rules later for specific affixes and what not.

Spendinit

1mo

I'm a complete idiot and I figured it out in aabout a half hour. I suggest watching that Tenkei guy on YouTube's walkthrough guide on making one. It's pretty good.

perfect_fitz

1mo

Just copy and paste one from someone else who put in the 100s of hours.

AerialSnack

1mo

I've been playing for 50 hours and I still don't get loot filters. Thinking about paying someone to make one for me...

cat666

1mo

If you're following a guide then they almost always come with a loot filter to copy/paste.

If you're going it solo then it can seem complicated at first, but it really isn't. Just remember that the top rules take priority, so if you had a rule saying SHOW all purples and another to HIDE all purples the one at the top would win and the other would be ignored. So anything you want to see put right at the top so purples, uniques, sets etc. Then anything you want to hide put at the bottom, so whites, blues and yellows. Then in the middle add the rules for stuff you're interested in from the blue & yellow rarities, so items with the affixes your build uses and the weapons you want. This is where it can get confusing as you can filter on lots of stuff. In between the show all and the filtered rule add some recolouring for the rare affixes and that's pretty much a guides loot filter done. Just be aware you have to treat idols as a different thing.

tFlydr

1mo

First line in your filter should be ‘hide all white, blue, yellow, set, exalted and idols’, the next lines should just enable gear you want to see tbh. I’d show all t4+ class specific mods of your class (helps to have rare shards to use despairs or chaos glyphs), show all t7 affixes, and specify which idols you want to see, as sifting through them is a pita. If your class or archetype doesn’t use a specific weapon type just totally hide it imo.