Lab-Grown Meat Company Says Ron DeSantis Ignoring Republican 'Basic Values'
Cruelty, that’s all.
How many of these lab grown meet companies donated money to the Republican Party and are now shocked that their donations didn’t get them favors as expected?
You don’t donate once, you do so annually like a tax or protection money. Then when something like this comes up, you threaten to pull their allowance
Being sold to the highest bidder is a long-time Republican tradition. Cattle lobby has a lot more money than new lab-meat company.
Corruption, willful ignorance, retrogradation...
Alright, in the interest of objectivity, can someone please link me an article that induces this reaction but towards democrats?
I’m inclined to agree, for the record. I just want to check my bias.
Probably not. Most democratic policies are sane and don't illicit this kind of reaction.
Maybe Bob Menendez
Nice comment! Can you clarify what kind if reaction you are looking for?
Nope. DNC politicians hate getting money from lobbyists.
I tried to give a Democrat some money one time and he was like, "Yuck! Get that away from me!"
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Desire for power and the ability to control people are the core Republican values.
Yep beef can pay him more
Remember the outrage when Biden suggested people eat less beef and more chicken? I remember seeing people on Facebook screaming that they cannot survive unless they have 5 double cheeseburgers a week.
Then wonder why healthcare is insane
Also slaughter, apparently.
Fear of anything new is one of their values.
I haven’t seen any multigenerational animal studies showing no behavioral differences between those eating the lab grown and those not,
Because no one is eating lab grown meat yet. It is literally the same thing as regular meat, but it does not cause cruelty to animals. I know, the moment that it is released in stores, people will be claiming that tortured animals taste better.
¡It MuSt Be ThAt AdReNaChRoMe!/S
I had a coworker bring that up, a lot. I feigned interest to get him to say more wild ass shit. But obviously, his source was just how unbelievably informed he was. Soo.. where is this from?
Not that I’M a reliable Internet source, HOWEVER;
Adrenachrome is the oxidized adrenaline compound epinephrine. It’s naturally occurring in everyone.
Thanks to QAnon, it’s become a cornerstone to the dumbest conspiracy theory, being that a Satanic cabal of elite people around the world invest heavily into the child-sex industry and child slavery for cannibalism purposes to harvest AdReNaChRoMe in order to live longer.
Realistically it’s a veiled conspiracy, laced with both antisemitism and xenophobia, and is a basis for many “Trump Pastors” to continue a money grift and a blending QAnon and Evangelical beliefs together to reinforce a Christo-fascistic takeover of government as they (believers) wait for The Storm.
I hope this helped clarify somethings, however, expect nothing to make sense in QAnon World as it’s just layered conspiracy theories with no proof and constant walk-backs and reinvention.
There are going to be so many conspiracy theories when this stuff hits the shelves.
Be honest, you haven’t looked have you?
Have you read any multigenerational animal studies showing there are behavioral differences between the two groups?
No, he's "just asking questions"
In hyper palatable foods. Huge. 6 weeks and its looking different not just acting that way
And Algernon, from you I am surprised a tad just from your moniker the source of concern via history’s and fictions lens the legitimacy of concern,
What is that you're smoking? I tried to follow your logic and just couldn't. I wouldn't exactly call lab meat "hyper palatable food". Have you ever had it?
Fascinating. You couldn’t be bothered to source any of your alleged ‘studies’. Why would that be?
Is it because you know you’re pulling. Nonsense out of your ass?
You do realize cultivated meat is seeded with a sample from the actual animal, right? It's the exact same cells from the animal... Just grown in a tank vs inside an animal. The FDA and USDA recognize cultivated meat as bioidentical. Have you found a single study that shows cultivated meat cells to be any different? The answer is no because we've been growing cells this way for the last 50 years for biological research studies. In fact, we used cultivated cells for toxicological studies because they behave identical.
I haven’t found a single study, where they fed them for multiple generations, and saw no difference
If the cells are bioidentical, literally the exact same cells taken from an animal, then why do we need studies? The answer is that we don't. Both the FDA and USDA agreed that no studies are required because it's identical to meat.
Republicans support the free market....UNLESS the free market might start favoring things like healthier food or fossil fuel alternatives. Then they cannot big government the alternatives out of their states fast enough.
Like 25% tariffs during a pandemic that hurt the people who needed to save every penny.
Are you calling lab meat healthy food?
Am I calling something grown from cells in a sterile lab healthy, compared to the alternative of an animal that spent its life in a crowded factory, wallowing in its own feces as it ate a steady diet of cheap feed made from the refuse of other products, and was injected with so many hormones and chemicals to protect it from a whole list of diseases that it was no doubt exposed to daily.......geeeee.....let me think about that for a s-
Yes. And I'm not exactly sure what would make you think otherwise.
I don't understand why you posted this, it seems to just argue that (too much) meat is unhealthy and doesn't say anything about lab grown products.
If you are some sort of vegan protesting lab grown meat just because it is meat you really need to get your priorities straight.
Yes...and lab meat wouldn't have those problems....which means.....
Grown from cancer cells*
It's quite a bit healthier, yes.
Not gonna debate it with you here but I'd do a bit more research on that
It makes sense that it would be healthier. In the lab we can control the fat content, and the meat is produced in a sterile environment with no need for antibiotics or growth hormones. The meat will also never be exposed to heavy metals, pesticides or parasites like live animals are. There is also no risk of prion disease (mad cow disease), bird flu or any other disease really.
For example, Melissa Mitri, MS, RD, a registered dietitian and the owner of Melissa Mitri Nutrition, told Verywell that “lab-grown meat would likely contain fewer antibiotics and additives,” than meat that’s been conventionally produced.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/fda-lab-grown-meat-6833515
When lab-grown meat reaches the shelves, it could be healthier than meat reared from livestock. According to researchers in the Journal of Scientific Research, “this is due to the capability of the technology to modify the profile of essential amino acids and fats, and to be enriched in vitamins, minerals and bioactive compounds.”
Grace Derocha, national spokesperson for The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, agrees. “More research needs to be done, but it could be healthier in the long run,” she says. “The control factor comes into play, meaning the lab-grown meat would be created in a sterile environment versus concentrated animal feeding operations.
“There are fewer antibiotics and environmental impacts in lab-grown meats. Moreover, the future could have science altering and controlling the amount of fat or reducing cholesterol or even adding in heart-healthier fats instead, such as omega-3 fats, that usually come from fatty fish.”
https://www.livescience.com/lab-grown-meat
What are your sources that it will be less healthy?
Sounds like you don't have much evidence yourself
No way you’re saying lab grown chemical “meat” is healthy.
It's not 'chemical' meat. It's cloned from cells.
You act like it’s equal to meat and good for human consumption because it’s “cloned”. It is filled with chemicals as well. Those “cloned” cells are not even close to the real thing, not to mention they’re filled with soy. There’s also TONS of studies already done about the adverse side effects. Stop trying to defend shit you’re not even remotely educated on.
You may want to learn the difference between cloned meat and vegetarian meat before you start accusing people of 'not being remotely educated', because you're clearly pretty uneducated yourself.
You’re wrong and defending lab grown meat. It took me 5 seconds to go to your profile and identify the mental illness in the LGBTQ + anti car reddits you frequently post in. Countless studies have already been done on what you’re defending, and if you realized who has funded the “lab grown meat” you wouldn’t be defending it. Get educated.
"Countless studies"-yet, you didn't find time to actually pull one up and post it as an example. But, you did have plenty of time to profile dive and out yourself as a raving bigot.
Lemme guess...when I ask you for those studies, you're going to squawk 'do your own research, I'm not going to do it for you' because said studies don't actually exist?
Because there’s no convincing you brain washed liberals of anything. You hear propaganda pushed out and believe it because your democratic leaders support it. It’s something you guys have to come to that conclusion for yourself. No matter what is posted to prove you wrong, you’ll still argue about it. Go eat your lab grown meat and die from the cancers it causes and other adverse side effects to your health , no one’s stopping you :-)
Yep. Just as I thought. "I have countless studies, but I'm not going to show any of them to you because there's no point-which is exactly why I keep coming back to argue for the last couple of hours and totally why I started this argument in the first place!" You're such a joke.
I will say, however, that there actually ARE countless studies that animal meat DOES cause cancer (each word is a link of its own, by the way)...but, you're just going to gleefully ignore that, now ain't ya'? Because those actual studies don't line up with your agenda, hm?
It’s always projection from you guys.
Edit: He even said what you were going to do before you did it.
He's representing the ultimate Republican value: the willingness to sell legislation. DeSantis explicitly said it was a protectionist measure for the beef industry, intended to undermine the free market and impede consumers from other options
Republicans have no values, only self-serving goals.
Old Boys Network is just doing its thing
True. What is the basis for this ban. It wasn’t health or safety related. Are we just banning things now whenever we want.
Banning to protect existing meat producers…so much for the free market I guess?
I had the same question. I suspect he made a dumb decision based on politics and donations, but I don’t know. Unfortunately, the kids on social media only think in simple concepts so you won’t get anything more complex than DeSantis is evil or corrupt. Too bad. Most things are complicated.
It’s really not complicated. DeSantis critics are saying he did it for the beef industry by protecting them from potential disruption.
DeSantis is saying he did to to protect the beef industry. His motivation here isn’t in question, it’s protectionism for an established industry against something that is at least 5 years and probably a decade or more away from being relevant.
A couple things then. The principle bugs me. An innovation could disrupt a local industry, so I'll shut it down. AI, robots maybe even 3D printing could disrupt florida industries so he'll just try to shut them down.
The second is related and more important. A governor has the power to shut down a technology simply because it threatens an existing industry. Is that even legal? It looks like you're right, but I'm astounded a governer can ban something like this without even a made-up health threat.
I used to think DeSantis was one of the few adults in the room when it came to governance. This, abortion, the battle with wokeness just sound nuts to me.
A governor supported by the state legislature can do a lot of things, yes.
Funnily enough climate change apparently.
He's a meathead.
It would help slow climate change. But they ignore that too.
Its kind of amazing to see us slowly inch towards technology that would have us figuratively growing stakes on trees, only to have people fight it because... what? It kinda feels a bit too liberal?
The cultural aesthetics of technological advance is an interesting aspect to futurism. Things can face unusual resistance for unusual reasons. I swear, we could have some sort of near-perpetual clean energy that solved the world's problems, and some people would still avoid it if they thought it made them look gay or some other such hilarious paranoia.
Or if they were paid off by the oil industries and factory farming industries.
Stakes are already grown on trees. 🙂
Neophobia is a definite Conservative value, so I'm unclear how the Florida Man Chief is doing something particularly out of character.
Call me /Shocked
I got beef with Newsweek
Oxymoron?
Just a normal moron.
Putting big business first over what’s best for the people has always been a Republican core value.
What values?
Wait!!! They had values at all? I thought the only values was do whatever the rich donors want?
I mean, unpasteurized milk is illegal, horse meat is illegal, Fois Gras is illegal…..
Banning food is nothing new, this is just political pandering to their base; obviously more vegans are left leaning/ against GOP.
I think it’s good old fashioned protectionism cloaked in “anti globalist” crazy rabble rousing. Florida beef producers don’t want it, they pay DeSantis, he executes.
but he checks off all the boxes: dumb. mean. liar. bigot. anti-american. anti-human. willing to transfer all of our assets to oligarchs. i do not see the problem.
....Republicans have basic values?
Yeah, supposedly anti regulation party works overtime regulating nonsense issues.
Republicans have no values at all.
Yeah, I'm a Conservative (I guess?) and this didn't make sense to me. Let the people vote with their dollars. As long as it is clearly labeled so that everyone knows what they are eating, its fine.
Problems have come up in other countries with labeling, as governments cozy up to the elites and allow them to use bugs without informing people. The other problem can be if the bug/lab food is heavily subsidized and traditional food cant compete.
No shit. That's because he and the current GOP aren't really republicans.
Basic characteristics of a real republican based off history (pretty old history now) and stated platforms
Market driven solutions
Strong defense of the country
Appropriate (not non-existent) regulation
Minimal intrusion in personal life
The current GOP abandoned these principles in a slow-and-go over several decades and is now approaching (pretty much achieved) a christianity driven, totalitarian approach... hell, a lot of them seem to consider Putin and Russia to be an ideal to shoot for, not an enemy aggressor... and regulation is either over the top or abandoned depending on whether it's driving culture wars or reducing industry profitability. And minimal intrusion in personal life was always aspirational and never met, but it has gotten abysmally worse in the last 30 years or so.
Yep, he gets the vibe from maga vote while at the same time providing corporate welfare to the ranchers.
Republicans constantly shoot themselves and their constituents in the foot. Same shit every time.
Through the years, I've determined core goper values to be 1) lying 2) cheating 3) thieving and 4) bullying. Ronnie embodies goper core values.
Yeah I think being a mouthpiece for whoever has the most money is pretty much their ONLY value
I thought that was a computer chip in the thumbnail. But it was fake chicken on a fork.
The Lab-Grown Meat companies just didn’t give large enough contributions to the DeSantis campaign.
If biden banned a company they would lose their minds. Conservatively reserving the ability to think in a nuanced objective open minded way.
They're the right wing party in America. If you know your history the right wing got it's name from monarchs sitting in the right wing of the French assembly.
Republicans basic value is obedience. You obey anyone above you and in exchange you get obedience from anyone below you (and plenty of violent thugs to help enforce that).
That's the deal you make when you vote Republican. It's the same deal all right wing parties make.
I think it's interesting. The same people that oppose gmo seeds, want artificial meat
Republican 'basic values' like shooting dogs in the head and throwing them into gravel pits?
Exploitation is the only Republican value.
I bet the elite billionaires still enjoy their Stake while telling everyone else they need to eat lab meat.
The High Chancellor has but one concern: how do I get a segment on Faux News Network?
The only values conservatives have are self enrichment and malice towards the most vulnerable.
The only maga sins are admitting fault, and taking personal responsibility.
This is a pre Trump anecdote. After Obama got elected John McCain said that there should be a blue ribbon commission to solve to debt crisis made up of retired politicians from both parties that would give an up or down vote on it if like 3/5 of the commission agreed.
Obama said it was a good idea.
So McCain voted against his own idea.
TIL only Republicans believe in free market economies.
The small government party
Hypocrisy is their brand.
I can’t wait to try Vat meat, all the flavor of meat without any moral hang ups. I don’t understand why anyone would fight this other than animal farmers I guess.
See, there's your problem right there--expecting Republicans to be consistent in what they believe.
our governor is an idiot and an asshole.
Nope. Their basic values are hate, sin and return to the stone age.
Ronnie boy’s sure showing us those small government principles
He is completely wrong. Current Republican values are whatever they feel like complaining about, or whatever their sponsors say they need to complain about.
Lab Grown meat is unbelievably stupid. People are too trusting of these magic elon musk type products. No, wasting money and time won’t improve environmental sustainability.
Yup. This is like solar roadways 2.0.
Got to love the 'free market' Republicans banning something they perceive that 'libs' might want to have.
There are no Republican values other than ALL HAIL KING TRUMP.
Ah republicans, famous for sticking to their own values.
He's assuming Republicans have basic values. They are quite vocal about their lack of values.
Now he’s trying to tell people what they can eat or try. I’m a meat eater, but if somebody wants to try something different that’s up to them.
Republicans have no values at this point other than being reactionaries who blindly oppose everything the Democrats support.
I think it is more no one wants Bill Gates' vaccine infested soy nuggets
Does anybody here want labgrown meat? I don't.
God damnit, the kitchen-wares fighting again.
No more processed foods wtf
They’re no Republicans anymore. Stop voting for them.
Why do we want lab grown meat again? I thought organic was the way to go.
You mean like respecting the market? There should be a ban on republicans banning things. Don’t they ready their own ideology?
The comments section is full of armchair scientists. Reminds me of the whole spike protein thing from covid vaccines. Total and utter nonsense.
What kind of news is this lol. Seems more like guerilla marketing for this fake meat company
He bombed pretty hard in the primaries lmao
There is only one Republican value: which corporation or corporate special interest group will pay us more? In this case its corporate agriculture. So f---k you anyone who wants to sell lab grown meat and save people money.
I'll only eat meat that came from tremendous suffering and cruelty! /s
Up next, cannibalism for climate change. And, don’t think someone hasn’t already considered it.
Republicans choose winners and losers in business
Their philosophy is the opposite of what is considered "free market" by the rest of the free world.
Free market my ass.
Republican values lmfao what
Speaking to Newsweek, Didier Toubia, the CEO of Israel based lab-grown meat company Aleph Farms, warned the move could harm investment into Florida and contradicts the stated GOP commitment to the free market.
He should just go straight to Trump. DeSantis will change his mind in no time.
Republicans: let the free market solve all our problems
Also republicans: not like that!
Ya let’s take the lab grown “meat” chemical mixture company’s word lmao. Floridians love DeSantis as he’s NOT ignoring republican basic values. Love the clickbait tho!
Soylent Green coming to fruition.
Surprise! Values are only a thing politicians claim to have when it's convenient.
I’m still trying to understand how lab-grown meat violates their “values”.
No ronda santos is upholding basic republican values. Cony capitalism and the blocking of all progress.
Get out of here with that ghey ass lab meat.
Save it for San Francisco
Ron DeSantis is a lab grown politician designed to mimic a small government conservative. Sadly, more work still needs to be done on that front.
No one wants lab grown meat poisoning
Hahahaha republicans and values?
This is slander! Ron does plenty of gaslighting and has, creates, and spreads plenty of hatred.
Not that I don’t find lab grown meat weird, but what are republican’s basic values?
What. Values?😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's almost like Republicans don't have values.
Florida, Alabama, Arizona, and Tennessee. I wonder how much Mexico would give us for these states? If it were me, $10/each, all four for $30 would seem worth it.
Oh look, the pro business party just banned a business for no reason whatsoever.
Farmers and ranchers are their base. Show them that lab meat helps that industry
I mean, the company is from Israel. I thought Republicans said we can't boycott those?
DeSantis is lab grown meat.
Its fucking poison youll figure it out
As ive always said - republicans are “pro-anything” - just pro republican. Trump and his base are my case and point but the party has had this issue for a long long time
I would rather eat fake vegan meat than any “bio-reactor” made whatever it is.
I don't know, using gov regulation to enrich their buddies seems quite on par for the GOP
You people are insane, the governor is just simply shutting this and other insanity down
Don’t you all claim to be small govt?
Meh, that would be ideal. But then people go nuts and turn the whole thing into anarchy
Does anyone actually give a shit about lab grown meat - put it in the trash
They will when it’s vastly cheaper than traditional meat. For cheap meat like hamburger, lab grown is the future.
I used to think that, but the thing about hamburger is that it’s already a waste product. Steers aren’t raised for hamburger. They’re raised for steak. Then they take all the leftover bits after they’ve made steaks, grind it up and call that hamburger. It’s one step better than just throwing it out.
The point is, lab grown hamburger meat could theoretically flood the market and collapse demand for “natural” ground beef, but it still wouldn’t substantially reduce the number of cattle raised (and therefore the environmental impact). Not until lab grown meat can start to compete with steak will we see real change there. And the tech is still a long ways off from a lab grown ribeye.
I’m definitely looking forward to lab grown meat becoming the norm, I’m just saying, temper expectations. It’s a long journey yet.
The sad part is that it is a long journey that politicians are attempting to eliminate because they are being paid by the animal factory farming industry to do it.
Science can make a perfect piece of protein without force feeding an animal and pumping it full of antibiotics to keep it from dying in horrible conditions? All while saving insane quantities of water and the nutrients in our dying soil from not feeding all those livestock? Sounds amazing to me.
But what about the environment? How much energy does it take to produce lab grown meat? How many inputs does the production chain need compared to livestock let alone hunting wild animals???
The industrial animal farming industry is one of the greatest contributors to greenhouse gas emissions. Lab grown meat will be better for the environment and will cost less.
When will it?
Because it’s not right now and hasn’t been yet.
I already hinted at that. I mean... If our energy was renewable, would it matter as much? There'd be much less impact. At this time the process is very energy intensive compared to natural beef. Hard to judge how much more when it's all at a cellular level. However we've already made strides in making the process more efficient. It'll continue getting more and more efficient. Eventually maybe no inputs in the production chain? I'd think it'd be easier to manufacture some cells in a lab/factory with a bot than to wrangle animals?
Good article for it: https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/07/03/1075809/lab-grown-meat-climate-change/
Eventually with progress in renewable energies and cellular meat, the environmental impact should be much better than natural meat.
Your cognitive dissonance is shocking, you want to bet on a future technology that plain and simple doesn’t exist (yet). Profit is always the motive and those lab based meat companies are just appealing to the benevolent tenets of the ethical vegetarian/vegan movement.
But plain and simple today and ever since its inception, all lab made meats are worse for the environment. Like it or not.
I used to be a PV installer and have no qualms with renewables. But again as it stands today they all require parts and materials that are petroleum based. Shoot even carbon fiber (the stuff wind turbines are made from) is also petroleum based.
But I’m sure an idealist like you will write all that off as necessary evil to accomplish your vision of what humanity should be.
What am I betting on? Two things can exist? When did I demand to get rid of natural meat exactly? I'm for an open market. I responded to this dude talking about throwing lab grown meat in the trash. Fuck that. I want the most delicious piece of meat science can make I was just pointing some other benefits besides that
How am I an idealist vegan? Wtf?
Hey while we are making shit up sounds like you're a fascist boomer asshole trying to control the free market and ban a product that people want because you're afraid of change.
You’re just out of touch with reality. Lab grown “meat” isn’t meat; meat is meat. So why keep saying the best meat science can produce? That’s just another highly processed food that’s packed full of forever chemicals.
Yes I am agreeing with the guy who said trash all lab grown “meat”.
Clearly that went over your head.
I bet you would have gotten your daughter a lobotomy if you were around back in the 50’s too. Probably wrap your house in that fancy new scientifically made asbestos while you’re at it. Because obviously you’re not scared of change….
You’re just the guy who always has the flashy new thing and wants to tell everyone how it’s better.
I see it as the complete opposite as everything in the lab would be completely controlled. Meanwhile they feed hogs bags of plastic that you end up eating in your bacon. I'm perfectly fine eating the best "meat" science cam produce. Sorry I don't live in your echo chamber, that doesn't make me out of touch with reality
Apology accepted, have a nice night.
Stop resorting to ad hominens when debating. Hell, even learn how to debate. I literally call it protein until you call it meat, then you attack me for calling it meat. Constant snap judgment attacks on me when you have no idea who I even am or anything about me. And they are all completely wrong. Get some help.
Or perhaps growing our food in a lab is a bad idea considering the sickness already prevalent in our country due to poor food
Lab grown meat will be healthier, less expensive, better for the environment, and will eliminate animal cruelty caused by factory farming.
Sources? Sorry natural is better until there is significant clinical evidence and long term health studies. Otherwise I believe you are a big farm based spam that historically gave us cigarettes are healthy, trans fats are good for you, the food triangle, artificial sugars and coloring, antibiotics cause animals to grow faster,etc… Big business lobbying generally isn’t in the consumer’s best interest.
there aren’t even sources for the things you said
it’s all speculation or else we would have this ready
Please provide clinical studies supporting that lab created crap is healthier. As well as customer requests asking for that lab created crap. Otherwise shut the F up and don’t tell me what I want as a consumer! As far as evidence that FDA clearance has our best interest at heart, I have a few examples against that argument: corn syrup, aspartame, sucrose, artificial colors, antibiotic saturated meats, genetically modified fruits and vegetables that increase sugars, labeling on cereals and snacks indicating no added sugar but packed with chemicals and fats. Or the support of the FDA of OxyContin and mRNA “vaccines” that went from 95% to 80% to will reduce infection time and prevent infection in others to probably won’t cause adverse impact. The erosion of risk benefits analysis on these vaccines is laughable if they weren’t gambling with lives for profit and a false sense of security. Literally appears the FDA is a marketing firm for industrial farms, sugar based products, and big pharmaceutical . No wonder diabetes and obesity are rampant in the US. The US citizens advocates are literally whores to industry.
Also do I need to bring up the rampant use of petro chemicals in plastics plates, Tupperware, ziplocks, and glasses. It is honestly like there is a drinking game going on by these alphabet soup agencies for causing cancer in citizens when the average citizen knows 4-5 people under 50 who have died of cancer there is a significant problem in this counties priorities.
I want that crap. Future humans are going to look back at what we did to these animals and the environment all for cheap meat like we look at slavery now. Lab grown meat will be identical chemically as the real stuff but we won't have to enslave other species or cut down acres and acres of pristine rain forest so we can have artificially cheap hamburgers.
And honestly, let the markets decide. If you don't want to eat it no one is going to force you to but at least let companies try it. Banning it is ridiculous protectionism from people that constantly bang this drum of free markets.
An anti-vaxxer like yourself would want to avoid antibiotic resistance caused by the industrial farming complex. Unless you eat pasture raised meat, and if so, good for you.
No problems with proven effective vaccines here, just ones that don’t meet the previous definition of a vaccine. Also agree that antibiotics are abused by big farming businesses. I prefer small farms and avoiding these big companies gobbling up independent farmers. Do you really think lab made will be healthier when they add all the chemicals and preservatives. Half our food is already banned in EU where they care more about their citizens. Or corn fructose is removed.
By the way just so we understand is this the insect based lab grown meat replacement? No thanks!
No. This is actual meat. That is, they take meat from a cow, culture the cells, and grow a new piece of meat. This has nothing to do with vegetables, insects, or anything else. This is the exact same meat from a cow that is grown in a vat as layers of "meat cells" stacked on top of each other.
You're right - harvesting animals for food is much less risky. Could you pick up some bat for me the next time you're at the wet market?
Seen many bat farms in the US? But by the way the HHS funded those coronavirus bat gain of function test in Wuhan! Still defending the US government has the best interest of citizens in mind. At best they are incompetent at worst they are complicit in the deaths of millions worldwide.
You wouldn't mind backing that rant up with some facts! Would you?
He can’t because there’s not any.
Hmmm hypertension rates in US, obesity rates in US, cancer rates in US , drug abuse and overdose rates in US, I mean what statistics are you looking at? Our mortality rate is in decline, mental illness and sickness has been increasing. What are you basing your opinions on?
Oh and excess deaths in last 5 years are up double digits. What could have changed in last 5 years. Hmmmm
Excess of what?
It is a term used to describe the qty of deaths over previous years and annual trends. In other words significantly more people are dying annually and life expectancy is also decreasing since 2019.
Weird. I wonder what happened in 2019 🤔
I wonder why the excess death rates have remained elevated since 2019. Not hearing a lot about COVID these days, wonder why more people are dying.
So you have data that ties it to this specific topic, right? You’re not just making it up
Corruption is the prime Republican value.