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I was young as hell 10 years ago and nobody was obsessed with or even thought about this shit. People were definitely gay, but this trans shit exploded, it's all you see or hear about.
This and Gaza are all we hear about. Neither were ever a part of our daily lives, but somehow they've become the most important things anyway.
....I mean, there is a pretty horrifying conflict happening there now. It's always been rough there, but not on this scale.
It's nothing compared to Ukraine, but gen z doesn't care about them for some reason.
Buddy, I wasn't talking about gen z. The rest of us still hear about Ukraine too.
You don't like that I mentioned gen z? They're the ones taking over college campuses on behalf of foreign entities right now. That's why I mentioned them, they aren't really known for much else. If we're buddies then I would appreciate it if you wouldn't say so. I prefer formality to artificial familiarity.
It's just a word, and not an offensive one at that, so, get over it.
Also, you're talking about America, of course. I'm not American so idc what's happening on your college campuses with the Gen Z idiots.
Fuck is also just a word. Buddy is much more annoying., but fine; I'm over it.
That's a personal issue you have there. I'm British, we say "mate" to literally everyone, but do you really think we think everyone's our actual mate? Don't be ridiculous.
Jesus christ buddy, chill out. Shot mate
Attention seeking
This is a mental illness. Narcissism should be treated
This
It's frightening how so many NPD get a pass, even though they're the most fucking dangerous people , as are all cluster B monsters . Yes, I said monsters
Why is it attention seeking when she let's her daughter decide how to live her live? Wouldn't you support your child if it told you it was LTBQ+?
If I start reffering to my kid as "it" I would feel like I failed as a parent.
IT!🤡....😂🤣
Even if your kid asks you to? And if it helps you: If your son or daughter would tell you he/she is gay or trans or whatever, wouldn't you still love and support him/her?
This is a stupid comparison. Loving yourself is an issue that needs to be dealt with at the root of the problem. If your kid has grown up to think they need to change gender to be happy I personally think that there is an issue. You can be a girly boy or a macho girl idc but thinking you need to take hormone therapy, perform operations etc. is way too far. Especially taking into account all the long-term downsides and permanent effects this has. If my daughter says she wants to dress like a guy and play football sure, you gettem girl. If my daughter says she wants to start taking testosterone at 15 and have an operation we are having serious talks and possibly seeking therapy or some other form of counselling. Permanent, long lasting changes with large downsides is not something I reccomend mixing with pubescent teens.
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Sexuality is basically the opposite. You can try it out, figure out what you want and stick to it.
As I said to another Redditor, you shouldn't assume that there hasn't been a severe amount of therapy and counselling, before those steps were taken. This is why I wrote my original post, people write such derogatory things without thinking that this is not a light decision and there are years of therapy and trauma behind it, before the decision. And yes, there are people that have made a mistake deciding and regret their decision, I won't deny that. I can only appeal to people's basic decency to respect people's personal choices and mind their own business.
The other redditor is probably me you replied to my first comment like 3 times for some reason.
So you can't even handle a general term of speech?
You mean reffering to a supposed love one by a generic dissociative term used mostly for inanimate objects and items that are of little importance?
I mean, I wouldn't handle it well no. As I said its a clear sign of failing as a parent.
- Kid = it why make such a drama about it?
- Not the question how you handle it, I'd say; this isn't about you. The question was if you would still love and support your child if it takes a decision that does not fit your world view.
It shows a lot if you think a kid making a massive life altering decision has nothing to do with the parent.
I did not say that, yet you referred to yourself as a falling parent if your child takes a decision that doesn't seem fit your world view, so I followed up on that.
About life altering: You seem to be of the misconception that people just decide to change their gender. "Oh, today I am going to be a girl instead of a boy,..." Don't you think that there is years of therapy and grief behind such a decision? Guilt, pain and rejection from family and friends? And so on. That is why I say that people should have some decency and mind their own business.
How delusional can you be... did you hit your head when you were little?
Read the other guy's comment again. The one whom you are replying to.
Well and dont u think that hormon therapyy is just another nail in the coffin to people that are not alright at the moment?
You cannot handle basic English grammar.
I feel such insulted, strange person on the web! /s
That wasn't the goal. I was merely pointing out a fact.
Well, I would not trust your judgement, kind stranger.
I'm not judging. Judgment implies there is room for interpretation. There isn't here. You fail basic English grammar.
What I fail to understand is that if I refer to a child or kid as "it" where the mistake is? Please enlighten me.
I'm willing to bet she doesn't let her "daughter" decide
That is your unfounded speculation, maybe provide some proof before making such accusations. And you didn't answer the question.
What are you, the gender police? Kindly move on dude
I am Batman!
Yeah the no parents part checks out on that.
OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's gonna leave a mark
Wanting to change your gender is a mental illness. These kids need professional help, not a round of applause. You should be happy with the way you are from birth because there is absolutely nothing wrong with you and being told different is just supporting the delusion. But being gay is different. If my kid told me they were gay that’s fine and I would support whatever they decide there. It’s unfair to lump all of these people into one category called LGBTQ+ because humans are individuals with unique traits and labels just diminish those qualities.
My child wouldn't be TQ+ because I'd actually be a good parent and raise them to not hate themselves or be so easily influenced by social media.
If they were gay, I wouldn't have an issue with it.
Isn't it funny just how many celebrities have LGBTQ+ children while most people, especially in rural areas, don't? It's also funny that rural areas are statistically happier in developed countries than urban ones.
Researches have shown that gender dysphoria is usually associated with deep trauma.
There are multiple studies and statistics that have shown multiple causes behind gender dysphoria but they really don't want to admit that as that would make the claim that it's 'natural' and you are 'born like that' illegitimate. A claim which they constantly try and argue, but makes legitimately no sense from a evolutionary perspective. There are also multiple studies and statistics that have shown reaffirment is actually quite effective and the majority go on to live happy, normal lives without being depressed or suicidal.
Which then begs the question...why? If it was just to try and lower the suicide rate, wouldn't it be smarter to try and fight the issue at its root than support its progression? It makes very little sense.
I was asking a hyperbolic question, what if your child... you keep avoiding to answer, which is very sad. Also you have a misperception that sexuality is just something you can form and control.
I'd rather say that these celebrities allow their children to be be themselves. This is a very misperceptive way to look at things: Not so long ago there weren't any gay or trans people. It was not that they did not exist, but being open about it meant and can still mean ridicul, bodily harm and murder.
I was asking a hyperbolic question, what if your child... you keep avoiding to answer, which is very sad.
English better please.
Also you have a misperception that sexuality is just something you can form and control.
No, I have the correct understanding of sexuality as being the driving force behind reproduction in all natural life. Funnily enough, fucking the same sex isn't exactly the best scenario when reproducing is the main goal, as it is for all living things. And, as I said, I wouldn't care as much about their sexuality. However it makes it statistically unlikely. Unless, of course, it is influenced by external factors such as loneliness, a lack of comfort around the opposite sex, porn addiction, etc. In which case these are things we should care about as a society.
I'd rather say that these celebrities allow their children to be be themselves. This is a very misperceptive way to look at things: Not so long ago there weren't any gay or trans people. It was not that they did not exist, but being open about it meant and can still mean ridicul, bodily harm and murder.
I'd rather say that this is the politically correct, ideal, but entirely irrational perspective all of you people have. It ignores that most trans people have similar circumstances in life prior, it ignores evolution entirely (because what evolutionary benefit is there to disliking who you were born as), and it ignores the fact that these people who were supposedly forced to affirm to society...succeeded in doing so? And lived happy lives? Because the suicide rate amongst the trans community is shown to not decrease, even amongst more accepting areas where it's far more popular to be trans.
And, not to get too conspiracy theorist-y or anything, but when the richest and most powerful people in the world regularly talk about trying to decrease the population prior and during too a massive increase in the amount of gay and trans people in the world, you kind of have to wonder if it's not something they want to promote.
nah
Sorry for the kid then I guess.
If you had a baby would you let it decide it's gender and actually follow through with a permanent irreversible surgery? Ofc not
Look at your post again and see the blatant flaw in it. Of COURSE, I would not let my baby decide anything, because it is a baby, what kind of false narrative are you trying to create here?
Now I am trying answer the question that I assume you wanted to ask: if my teenage child would come to me, telling me he or she is trans, I would assure them that I still love them and be there for them and discuss the possibility of therapy for them. I would take every step necessary for them to be happy and healthy. And if they consider a transitional procedure, I would try to make damn sure that they know what they are doing.
And they could still be wrong, there is no guarantee for anyone to always decide right. It is not an easy decision, that is why people should be left alone with it
There's a reason why the age of consent is at 18 and not in teenage years, they aren't supposed to make permanent or life changing decisions at such a young age
That is why they have parents and doctors and psychologists to help them with those decisions and why there are studies and medical/psychological protocols and a whole lot more to deal with these questions. And that is also why it is a very personal and private decision and nobody else's business. I point back to common decency
Children nowadays are heavily influenced by the media, which promotes trans gays and all other stuff, which in turn leads them to explore too many options that they weren't supposed to explore at such a young age when they should be focusing on their studies
Yada, yada, yada, it was all better in the old days. "I can't handle people that are different from me having equal rights; let them be repressed otherwise I could see how happy they are living a normal life and how sad and repressed my own life is."
Well at least this means the current Hollywood weirdos will end up dying out in a couple of generations since they castrated their children
Silver lining, but the Ideology is still being spread to every child, and the Ideology doesn't die with them.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
This Ideology will give birth to an equal but opposite ideology to combat its extremist tendencies.
The universe requires balance
OoOOo! Look at me! I'm trans and I need special attention! Also I'm unique and quirky!!
The new elitist status symbol.
She's making his son's situation into clout and he's probably thinking about jumping from that thing above he seems to be gazing at...
Weirdo time frame we live in.
Can someone give me a list? Cause it seems like most of you circle jerk each other about the same 3 families/kid and act like it's an industry wide thing...
It’s ragebait to drive clicks. Nothing more.
F R E A K S...
Because it's trendy.
I mean who gives a fuck
Part of the contract I guess iukuk
I haven't seen anything remotely funny on this sub.
Where is the funny meme?
Does anyone really expect that a sub called r/funny is actually gonna be funny?
I am on a longterm rescue mission to find the person who gives a fuck
The only consolation is that your opinion of Watts, her child, or trans people in general, is largely inconsequential.
Why so many people don't know about basic decency, have such a hard time to mind their own business and let people be who they are?
Tell that to all the "trans kids" who've detransitioned when they became adults… they were manipulated by the adults in their lives just because it's tendy
???
That's like 1-3% of the population who transition. That's awful for them but what does it have to do with people being shitheads to the over 97%?
Why are you begging for attention from Reddit/social media instead of seeking the attention of a psychiatrist?
Every accusation is a confession with people like you. I like having discussions and people responded to my statement and I defended it. If that such a outerworldly concept to you, then I rather recommend your own advice to you.
Why so many people don't know about basic decency
That's not a discussion. That's a monologue bait using bad faith and provocation. Those are symptoms of your addiction to attention. You should seek treatment rather than propagate it. BrainHIV isn't cool.
And I reccomend your own advice to you. If you want to call your kid it and let them chemically alter their bodies permanently at a very young age all the while you encourage them that "If you are not happy, changing yourself via procedures is the way to go!" you do that. Let others parent in other ways.
I thank you for your recommendation, but your very broad, overall statement at the end seems rather foolish and weird, that is why I am sorry for not following your advice.
How is my statement foolish and weird and yours isn't exactly?
I am basically saying that other people's sexual or gender decisions are not my or anybody else's business as long as no laws are concerned. You are blasting some derogatory and conspiracy statements that in no shape or form mirror the issues of trans people. We are not the same.
Please quote my derogatory and conspiracy statements. Especially since this is like a default answer you have given to multiple people it seems to be your default rhetoric that you spew out when you lack arguments.
I understand that you didnt experience this personally but there is no world where my child undergoing a sex change at 15 is not my concern as a parent. With this premise being irrefutable your "mind your own business" falls entirely on you. I couldn't give a crap if you are so deluded to think encouraging young teens to have permanent operations is ok so long as its exclusively on your kids and you leave mine out of it.
Thank you for reminding me of my previous statements, leaving out for example that I also stated multiple times that the process these people undergo is a very private, possible traumatic experience best left to decide between the affected individual, their family and their medical doctors. Should I chalk this up to selective perception of reality or just basic malice because you care shit about these people, you just use them to push your agenda.
And you take it a step further, self victimising, making up a scenario in your head where I tell you what to do in your parenting, although I stated the exact opposite. Raise your imaginary children the way you see fit, and should they be trans, it would be none of my business until crime or violence are involved.
And these medical procedures have nothing to do with your debunked horror stories, I am glad to tell you. Therfore I rather go along with the AMA and other medical associations then some keyboard warrior that wraps such a complex subject into 3 paragraphs of hateful, derogatory sewage.
Tell that to the child
Tell her what? That it is ok for her to be trans and that she is loved unequivocally?
If he was loved why did he have to change? Sounds like they love the agenda more than the person.
probably because she has clinically diagnosed gender dysphoria. The only known effective treatment for which is medical transition.
If you think she should do something other than that, then provide another method of treatment.
Other than Christian conversion camps I would say she wasn't forced to be anything than herself and was loved and supported in her decision by her mother. But sure, it is all a conspiracy /s Your statement can be referred to my first comment and yeah maybe get some help...
Right her mom said I support you in not accepting yourself, I also don’t like who you are change. Since this is a trend there is a small group of people who think this is ok. Stop hating people.
That is quite a weird and sad statement. So rather than thinking the kid discovered for herself that she is trans and wants to live her life accordingly, pretty normal thing, just like gay people do, you go through a series of mental gymnastics that the mother somehow forces the child to be trans to fit some weird undefined agenda? Like I said, rather care about your own business, do the decent thing, instead of concocting crazy schemes in your head. And maybe swing by a shrinks office, but that is just me saying.
The rate, at which gender dysphoria was documented to naturally occur, is extremely low.
The recent rise in the number of kids of hollywood celebrities identifying as trans is without exaggeration thousands of times higher. Something, something vegan cats.
Believe me my world view is to mind my own business. But is obviously not the case with trans ideology. You literally have to tell people I’m no longer want to be myself. But now you must call me by another name and gender. Essentially asking people to misgender you on purpose. Then post about it on social media, to look “cool”. while the government, media, social media and entertainment industries applaud for it at the expense of millions of dollars. Then when someone like me gets fed up of all the bull shoved in my face and I simply explain how the ideology isn’t just annoying it is harmful for everyone. You feel the need to tell people like me to mind my own business. That ship has sailed. I’m playing by your rules now. I’ll stand up for what I believe in and I believe in respect, and human rights. Not telling people that they will never be happy unless they take drugs and undergo surgery.
Lots of stuff mixed-up, I'd say. Can't see any belief, respect and/or human rights in that. Are going to also tell people that they are not to drink, smoke or undergo plastic surgery? In the end you can't stop people from making their own mistakes, so yeah better tend to your own business, you understood me correctly there. Good night.
Firstly, I’d like to thank you for acknowledging that trans ideology is a mistake. You are correct I can’t prevent people from making their own mistakes but I can be verbal and maybe prevent some from going down that road. Like MAAD, mothers against drunk driving.
Ok my bad, tell it to the mother
Why? She doesn't seem to care but rather support her daughter.
That’s not a daughter, that’s a boy. Who looks unhappy about the decision
We live in weird times.
Oshkoshbagaush, a teenager that looks bored or unhappy, the world has not seen that before, call all the mayor news papers/s
I don't know about the times, but if you make such an unfounded statement based on a photo like that, Sir or Madam* you are the weird one. Sad to tell you and common decency is also lacking, I'd say.
Who looks unhappy about the decision
lol touch grass freak.
Imagine psychoanalyzing random people based off a photo.
All the people down voting you are definitely consuming their information from fox News, News max and info wars. Lol. Out of 100 celebrities, if 1 kids comes it, these people will start spewing ah! So many kids because trendy. Not really.
What's trendy is adult men and women wearing diapers and calling it real men do it. That's trendy
Thank you for your kind words. It is a feat of these times, we have a lot of hurt and trauma in our society and people realise that on a emotional basis. But they also fall victim to these vultures, that redirect their anger towards vulnerable people and minorities.
What is wrong with you. Look her son, he looks so happy with being trans. Let them alone.
Nothing about that face says happiness. Stop with the cliches.
Look at her *daughter*, *she* looks happy. And yes, she does.
Maybe if you're psychotic.
… now that you say this, maybe she’s uncomfortable being in the limelight with cameras all around her?
Maybe she's an alien. Maybe she's a statue of stone. What about (ism)
Hmm, autism? (ism)?
Honestly id fuck her or him or both look ... honestly where theres a hole theres a goal
I don't think we're supposed to be talking about this.
Godamn I uninstalled 9fag for this kind of 'humor' and this shit reached here too. Mods please ban those idiots for good
Virtue signaling at their child's expense.
Satan spirit of confusion.
so they can be sure their kids are the end of the family tree
Trans people bad
Correction: All people are bad
There’s a weird statistical correlation between narcissist mothers and trans children
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Because it's a trend.