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He could have used slices of bread?
Yes, I'm serious.
I used to go shooting in Arizona desert with packs of dollar store saltine crackers as biodegradable targets.
That's brilliant actually. How have I never thought of that
Critters get dinner afterwards.
I never stopped in the same area twice, or at least not very often so the same group of critters didn't get bullet flavored snacks too often :).
Even then, with FMJ ammo and you're shooting out past 15 feet or more, there shouldn't be much actual gunshot residue on the crackers.
We have a Ritz cracker launcher for .22 shotshell skeet. It's ridiculously hard
...can you run shot loads through a suppressor?
Suddenly I've got this vision of suppressed backyard Ritz skeet shooting with my friends around a BBQ grill or something and it sounds like a great time.
No idea. I would add that the crimped end style shot shells pattern better than the plastic cap style, so maybe the cap would work better through the suppressor since the cap sort of holds the shot together better.
Problem is they are soo hard to staple!
They make a 177 pellet gun shotgun
Gamo airguns have shotshells, since the crimped 22 shotshells are getting harder to find we've been using those. I've been working on 3d printing the shells since they'd be 0.00000001% the price
I need this
What about the bullet?
It ricochets into oblivion and sinks to the bottom?
After Halloween in AZ me and my buddy's will get a bunch of pumpkins for target practice
Tostadas have never flown off the shelves so fast
Probably can get a sack of day old bread and donuts from any bakery. DEATH TO GLUTEN!!!! Haha
Guy 1, Looks at the bread after shooting: I hit every one dead center!
Guy 2: those were donuts.
This is genius, the bread will attract fish and seagulls, which are biodegradable targets!
I assume mermen are biodegradable as well, but are they attracted to bread?
Still putting lead in the water.
You mean the bottom of the ocean...
We had mini clay target throwers for Ritz crackers. I think they still make them. I had them out at my range and classroom. The 4-H shooting sports kids loved them.
Yeah eco concerns aside, that's some impressive shooting.
Hey! You never know when they’ll be a Merman uprising! 😆
When you torpedo your enemies' ship and have to train for killing the survivors
90% sure that would be a war crime :D
He’s probably Canadian
Canadians practicing for WW3
Depends who wins
I was about to no actually you but it's true. "Once wounded, sick or shipwrecked and provided that they refrain from any act of hostility, even former combatants become “protected persons”" I figured since attacking fleeing militants was not a war crime that the same would happen to those fleeing a sinking ship.
Interesting they have a provision for shipwrecked people in the Geneva convention.
Well it makes sense actually. #ianal
since attacking fleeing militants was not a war crime that the same would happen to those fleeing a sinking ship.
Fleeing on land = typically still armed and trying to evade you = still hostile.
That's completely different than surrendering enemies on land that throw away their weapons and remain in place to be caputured to become protected prisoners of war.
Seamen after a shipwreck are also typically defenseless in the water and can't shoot any more or flee. They can only surrender. And if they don't surrender they will die pretty quickly especially in cold water.
Interesting they have a provision for shipwrecked people in the Geneva convention.
Sea warfare seems pretty old.
Even if you throw away your weapons on land and flee you're still a combatant unless you are surrendering though. So it's kind of interesting to me at least that fleeing whilst at sea while without your weapon, the ship, doesn't count as a combatant but on land it does. You could still have a gun on you while fleeing the ship or a knife or whatever and still be able to do a little. Of course mobility in the water is quite different than on land.
Being shipwrecked you can still evacuate to a lifeboat, but yeah makes sense that even in that case your best bet is to be picked up as a prisoner of war at that point if you are far from any rescue. Being marooned on a lifeboat is not a good long term solution.
If a seaman were to have his ship sink near his own coast could he just swim back to shore, and any action to try to capture him would be a war crime as he is a protected person at that point, basically equivalent to a civilian?
It has to do with the general hostility of the environment. It's also the reason pirates were so onerous and considered 'hostis humani genris' because a pirate is doing worse than just robbing you of your property, he is depriving you of your life sustainment vessel you use to cross an alien ecosystem.
Its never a war crime the first time
Practical approach to employ training well done solider 👍🙈😂 jfc this one got me
Training to take down any survivors of Titanic II.
Fuck that. Get your balloon trash out of the ocean.
And lead. Don’t forget the lead.
That's why we use car batteries instead.
It's a safe and perfectly legal thrill!
Someone’s gotta charge the eels
I chortled.
Do you realize how many sinkers get lost in the ocean fishing? A couple pounds plated in copper and sunk to the floor isn't going to do a damn thing. Those balloons though, fuck that.
It’s ok because others do it is a shitty excuse
It's not okay because others do it, it's okay because it's of negligible effect, as are fishing sinkers. So if you want to complain about shooting, you should be complaining more about fishing.
This is the same rationale that smokers use about their cigarette butts when there’s people throwing fast food trash. Still not a good excuse.
Cigarette butts don't exist naturally. Neither does rubber. But copper and lead? Like you do realize there's already lead in the ocean? Nothing exists on a black and white binary. There is a line that separates "this is too much of something and we should be worried" and "this is so negligible that we shouldn't need to care" on a spectrum of severity. Generally speaking, as a society and as individuals, we all engage in this type of analysis to figure out where to expend our limited energy. When we don't expend energy on things that are problems, that's an issue. And when we spend energy on things that aren't issues, then it's also a problem. Given the natural occurence of lead and copper in the ocean, as well as the relative amount of concentrated lead being introduced to the local environment, this is not a problem. And you should really evaluate just how firm your lines are on altering anything that has to do with nature, lest we just ban fishing and other sorts of harvesting of natural resources because it upsets the balance of what already exists. Wait till you hear about what the germans do with their extra salt
I’m not reading all that
I didn't expect you to.
That's a helluva troll there.
Virtue: Signaled !
Gotta get that reload grind on 🤿
We don't KNOW that he didn't go back and clean it up.
I think we can say he didn't. Kids can't even find all their water balloons.
I think it's a safe bet.
They do make biodegradable balloons. I doubt he is using them, but still.
Sure looks fun. He’s also a prick for littering the ocean.
Biodegradable plus lead free bullets would be fun and ethical
Lead is a mineral .
Lead is an element. Elemental lead, and the non-naturally occurring alloys we make with it, is usually pretty toxic and generally bad for the health of anything alive. Galena is the mineral/ore that lead is typically extracted from, is less dangerous, which is why the natural form is not generally considered bad, in addition to being less pure/available. It's why refining and dumping pure lead into the environment is obviously no beuno. (Don't like eat it though that's probably still bad)
So is mercury and arsenic but people don't throw those around and justify it since they're minerals.
Lead is a pollutant in the quantities we're putting it out there
So is asbestos
These are asbestos rounds?
Wanna bet that's what he's using?
He's been to Innsmouth and knows what's under the waves...
Guy is just putting trash into the water
Shipwreck survivors?
Dudes an ass for this. Makes the gun community look like shit. Get your trash out of the ocean.
Also, at the angle he's shooting ricochet is a very real problem.
What?
At the angle he's shooting ricochet is a real problem
A problem for who? The nearest seagull?
Lmao
Exactly what I was thinking, I’m pretty sure they cover this in Hunter’s ed, bullet skips like a rock and can kill people a few miles away
Thats insanely impressive
Clearly most of you haven’t seen what the military does in the ocean….
Edit Some of you had the wrong take away.
DEFINITELY NOT condoning the act. 1. We don’t know if he picked it up or not, but everyone is assuming he did not. 2. A couple dozen balloons is the least of the world’s concern.
DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT, just saying there’s much worse going on.
and cruise ships
Doesn't make it cool to add to it.
I teach my 6 year old that "2 wrongs don't make a right". Even she understands that logic
Never said what he was doing was correct. Even you should understand that logic.
So? The firearms community dosent have the the legal protections and general perception that military or private entities like Cruise ships have. We have to be above them and better to not give dipshits any excuse to make more laws for us. This shit and dumping target washing machines and other trash in public environments everyone enjoys makes us all look bad.
We nuked the ocean
This is not the solid logic you think it is
What logic? There was no follow on saying what he was doing was okay. It’s wrong either way, and your statement isn’t the logic or comeback you think it is.
That's your go-to? You could have gone with cruise ships, because they're horrible, but you went with the military. Cool. Cooool.
Why do I feel like you’re required to wear a helmet
Remember to ask for the extra sauce, boyo.
Use cabbages or something biodegradable and solid copper bullets
And sure they pick up the trash after, right? Fucking morons
Use watermelons so you don't leave garage in the water
I believe the correct term is "merpeople"
He should just do this on the Mississippi, tons of pop up carp to shoot and they are invasive. As long as you are not shooting lead I doubt people would even care.
Oh that looks fun. I'd make good use of a lanyard though.
First person in a century to make use of the lanyard hole.
I wonder what the legality of doing this just off the coast in the ocean is lol
It's legal because of the implication
Are these balloons in danger?
No balloons in real danger, how can make it more clear to you?! It's the implication of danger!
NOT that things are going to go wrong, but she's thinking they will.
mare liberum bitches
I don't see why this can't be done on land. Everything underwater is going to try to eat those balloon remains, down to their smallest possible particle. Keep this shit out of the fucking ocean please.
Remember what Paul Harrell said... Remember to be a good ambassador to the gun community. This is not how you do this in the world view. Let alone anyone here whose an ocean enthusiast.
Paul is looking terrible right now, it's fucked up.
I know man. It's hard to watch, but I'm glad he's still coming out and doing his thing to the end. He's just built strong.
One must never flounder in his training regimen.
Never let your aim waiver…..
All fun and games until a turtle 🐢 chokes on a balloon 🎈, then we all have to start using paper ones...
fish will 100% eat the ballon pieces
This feels like a Florida man activity
Old pumpkins, apples, gourds, blocks of wood or anything biodegradable would be great, fuck this idiot for littering.
Sign me up, that looks like a great afternoon out
For those of you saying fuck this guy for littering and shooting lead ammo into the ocean, the U.S. navy has been doing the same thing for decades, most likely other navy’s as well. Not trying to justify it but he’s insignificant to what the government does
Yep, fantail fire with 50 cal. Though our balloons were like 6 or 8 feet in diameter, lol. We would go through 10s of thousands of rounds..so fun..
Navy’s shooting balloons? Shit sign me up!
Yeah, you have to qualify at sea as well and you need a target.
other than the Red Sea pirates?
Balloons and more! All sorts of fun and reactive targets. Go sign up and sail the seven seas! You can shoot at balloons and stuff!
I wonder how many turtles were killed when we tested nuclear weapons underwater.
That didn’t kill any turtles it just created Godzilla
Guys, most balloons these days are biodegradable. The amount of lead he's shooting is negligible.
As an unashamed environmentalist, I have zero issue with this, assuming those are biodegradable.
Biodegradable =/= breaks down in pure water (assuming the manufacturer isn't lying to begin with) or that an animal wont eat it in the weeks/months it takes to break down if it does at all
Guys, most balloons these days are biodegradable. The amount of lead he's shooting is negligible. As an unashamed environmentalist, I have zero issue with this, assuming those are biodegradable.
Perhaps you're not the environmentalist you think you are.
"Although there are laws against releasing balloons into the environment, replacing plastic polymers with biodegradable alternatives could also be an option to prevent seabird deaths, Dr Hamann said."
Maybe you should read your own link there bub.
Although there are laws against releasing balloons into the environmen
Lock those children and weather men UP!
Which is not being done, FFS. You suggest reading to article, but it's clear that you didn't.
Do you know what balloons the guy is using. No? Kthxbye
Happy to end this, Mr. Unashamed Environmentalist. Your silence will be most welcome.
Weird, but impressive. Sure hope he's got a lanyard on that thing.
Gives more credence to “lost in a boating accident.”
He's got more proof than I will when I inevitably use that one.
What a polluting dickbag.
FFS, this video from Paul Harrell was posted just yesterday .
Not necessarily defending this guy but I saw this video a few weeks ago also so well before the Paul video was posted
That's super fucking impressive. And stupid.
Know your target and what’s beyond it.
One could argue 12 miles of visibility and atleast rifle rounds almost immediately fragmenting into a foot of water that's the least of the issue here
"Coming up next season, on TOP SHOT"
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Drive-By with Precision.
More trash in the ocean. Looks fun though.
It's useful to know how to hit a target from a vehicle whether airborne, waterborne, or driving across land.
A buoy with a steel plate on a pole would be neat and a lot less pollution, but would not solve the ricochet / lack of backstop issue unless you have a crows nest.
Meh. He was a good shot from a moving boat.
Looks fun as hell but yeah, as everyone else is saying, don’t trash the oceans people
Fuck this dude trashing the ocean…
Would be more impressive if it wasn’t sped up.
Still impressive. Try it and post your results.
Stupid redneck littering the ocean.
Just Nathan Explosion practicing on the surface before descending deep within the Mariana Trench for the recording session of the Dethklok album "Dethwater" is all.
Smart trigger
Derek Zoolander doesn't seem like an equal opponent
Alaskan halibut fishing. No need for speed.
I had to read that three times, because the first two times I thought it said Norman uprising, and I was confused because that problem was solved nearly a thousand years ago.
It looks really fun
I’ve actually always wondered what the rules are of bringing guns onto boats and being in the ocean, can someone who knows fill me in a bit?
Wasnt there an IDF video like this not long ago?
That looks like a boatload of fun right there.
Brilliant target shooting activity, makes for an awesome shot. Mf the dorky jokes.
That’s a real navy seal… they don’t fight land wars. Duh… “SEAL”. 🦭
/s
damn, imagine you're forced to evactuate your ship at sea and you can't/didn't take a lifeboat, you're just there, floating in your life-jacket, freezing your nuts off and hoping rescue isn't far away.
you perk up as you see a boat approaching fast,until you see it turn to drive by and you hear these mfs trying to gun you down
I want to do this.
Is he training to finish of sunken sailors?
Maine residents training to take back that is land from Canada
Does look like fun but terribly damaging to the undersea wildlife. The remnants of the rubber balloons can be swallowed or become enmeshed in seafloor critters. Will choke fish who see it as a possible foodsource.
To me this compares to the kids throwing garbage of their boat.
I HEAVILY disagree with putting more plastic in the ocean. But, that is some fancy shooting
In the event of the merman uprising, the mermen are like hogs in farms – they get gunned down by rifle-owning men or machine gunners in trucks/golf carts, but this one being in speedboats or jetskis once they get too far or too hostile to humans.
dude thinks he is going to stop the chinese seals. he should be worried about chinese lead and microplastics.
This is pretty impressive. When I was 3 gun or something similar, people move, stop, shoot and move again. These targets are always moving. Very good practice.
How to combine two expensive hobbies and maximize your pollution.
Everyone commenting on the littering side. Biodegradable balloons exist and are quite cheap. Lead free bullets exist as well.
We don't know what materials this guy is using, but let's hang him from a tree anyway. Ffs
Props, because that looks hard as hell.
I saw the Israeli navy doing this to trash about six months ago.
i suddenly am interested in renting a boat…..
This is so bad ass...
I’d try that!
shooting bullets at water, at a shallow angle... man. i wonder what could go wrong.
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Littering is bad, but this looks fun asf.