I’ve heard 5.9s will run for a million miles but I’ve never seen one. I’ve seen 350k is about the time they start to die. I understand maintenance and all that good stuff makes a difference and how the owner drives it but is buying a 5.9 24v with 350k stock engine and transmission and not rebuilt worth getting or at least taking a chance one for about 7k? I work on my own vehicles but don’t know what’s to high or not worth getting.
My 97 had 554, 721 when I sold it. Most reliable truck I've even owned. Turbo blew up due to oil starvation, because of massive engine leaks. Only engine problem. New owner says best truck ever.
My son has an 01 with nv4500, 427,000 miles, still runs really, really well. One of the most beautiful running trucks I've ever driven. Everything is perfect.
So yeah, it's possible.
7k is what the engine is worth I'd jump on it. You could part the thing out for more as long as it isn't a rusty hunk of shit.
Where do you live that a 24v is worth 7k? Common rails near me are 3k and 12v about the same. I don’t see many 24v being sold, but I can’t imagine the “worst”/least desirable engine costing double.
In truck country. People will pay up to 7k just for a good running engine no matter what. They are like hens teeth tho cause once one comes up it sells quick. I know a guy that his engine went south at 1.1 million. He bought a hole truck that caught fire just for the engine and payed like 5k for it cause he just wanted the engine.
engine and paid like 5k
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That's wild. I live in truck country Canada and there are multiple 12v and 24v trucks available for under $5k USD. Pulled, supposedly running 24v engines for sale for 1.5-2k CAD.
Interesting.
Don't surpass 500hp, don't treat it like a hover craft and do actual PMI and regular maintenance intervals, people are fucking lazy, yes even to lazy to change the oil om a schedule, that engine is as close to perfect as we ever have seen or ever will due to the EPA. Don't go over 5k on an oil change, I don't care what Schaffer says, 10k without a oil analysis bare minimum is foolish.
I worked for Penske and we were doing 30K + oil change intervals in the newer fleets , 2012 and up. Obviously the ISB isnt an ISX, but if you get the extended life Fleet guard or which ever filters, like i run, you can go 10-15k ( Not Heavy Towing ) between changes.
The breakdown and heat disappation difference of 3 gallons compared to 14 is absolutely laughable, I see what your saying and everywhere I wrenched we did about the same dependent on monthly oil analysis.
I got a 2006 Ram 2500 with a 5.9 at 336,000km and 9,500 hrs and it runs like it just rolled off the showroom floor. Buddy of mine has a 98 24v with 730,000 ish original km and it runs very well just a little leaky lol
560k km on a 98 24v checking in. Leaky, but fires up faster than my 2007 common rail 5.9 with only 250k km.
These trucks are loyal af
I dunno if there is really such thing as too many miles, it's all how it was taken care of. I'd walk from a truck in rough shape regardless of miles, but be interested in a high mileage truck that's in good shape.
My 5.9 had no speedo for about 15 years after the last owner did a manual swap. He daily drove it for those 15 years. Odo has 450k km on it, so it's more lively in the 600s. Still has less issues than my 6.7 lol
What year truck?
If the motor runs good, isn’t burning a ton of oil, and isn’t coating the tailgate with drips from the blowby tube, I think the trans and rest of the truck would be more of a concern to me than the motor.
Also depends how you want to use it. Gonna putt around the farm or hotshot across the country?
Well I took to long getting my money in and the truck was sold. Wasn’t meant to be
I bought my 03 with 336k It’s a 2wd nv5600. I’m now at 385k, all of which was towing a trailer. A trip to Texas and a trip from slc to pompano beach with a few detours to other places in between. About 12k on that trip.
My truck does great. 20k oil changes, 10k fuel filter. Never had injectors, or anything else. It’s had a clutch, front end and quick reseal of everything but the timing gear housing. I have yet to put a clutch in it myself. Did a water pump, belt and tensioner when I bought it because the water pump was leaking.
It really just depends on the overall condition of the truck. The wife’s 03 48re truck has been a nightmare. Had it 6 months and have been forced to replace the whole PS system, full AC system, intercooler had a hole. Trans cooler pissed all over, trans was a pile of shit, put injectors in it 3 months ago and put a turbo in it last Saturday because it was puking oil into the exhaust housing.
I paid 10k for my truck 3 almost 4 years ago. The wife paid 8500 for her truck less than a year ago. I’m $12k into mine total with wheels and tires. She is 14k into hers and still needs the dash pulled for doors and heater/evap cores, needs a dash top, has some rust on the cab corner(just one corner) needs rear driveline work, needs a front end still. Need wheels and tires.
Like I said, all depends on the overall condition.
Also, I’d buy another one for around 10k if I had the money just to have a back up truck but, my truck has shown zero signs of slowing down anytime soon. 2500+ rpm on the highway all the way to pompano beach. Towed a 12 f250 last week and cruised 75 into town, about a 45 min drive. Averaged about 16mpg
Yea I just want that diesel reliability and don’t mind working on it. 16mpg towing is kind of crazy. There’s another truck for 10k with less than 300k on it. Feeling like that might be worth it
I’d just give it a good shakedown with a buddy before you get anything. Pull the oil cap off on first start, pull the oil cap after it’s warmed up. Make sure it doesn’t try to blow the cap out of your hand. I had the old man send me a video of mine when I bought it because I was going 4 hours down to get it. I work on cars for a living so it’s not nearly as bad for me as some people and I just replace stuff as I find it. Cummins/dodge/ram are and will always be the most simple trucks to work on in comparison to ford and chev. The repair prices are cheaper as labor is cheaper and there’s less moving parts as well as less non moving parts. Make sure the trans fluid doesn’t stink or is black. Make sure it shifts good, I do my own transmissions and I was $2k in a billet vert, shift kit and a couple small parts so that’s 100% the most expensive part of these trucks in my head. My 5600 truck, been zero issue. Chirps the gear in 3rd if I racecar but it’s great otherwise.
I’ve also built a pretty good relationship with the guys at Industrial Injection as they’re 30 min from me and one of the techs lives 5 min from me. The wife’s rig has ii injectors and reman stock turbo and it’s been good with those parts so far.
Really, in my mind, no matter what you do, you’ll still be less than a 4g or a 5g. Can buy a 3g and dump 10-15k into it and still be within purchase price of a 4g.
If the wife’s engine doesnt hold up(I have a bad feeling about towing horses all summer with it) I’m slamming my good engine in it and getting myself a 6.7 and compounds.
Have a 92 5.9 nv4500 305k miles LOVE IT Had a 2004 5.9 nv5600 550k miles motor was starting to go needed injectors and bad blow by junkkkk will never buy another Now have a 2009 6.7 g56 355k miles LOVE IT
My 04 has close to 800k and on her 3rd transmission, running compound turbos, and the only issue is the body rotting away. So, I might get something newer this year.
Check for the basics, blowby, leaks, and oil contamination. Both my 90’s went to +500k and running good when sold. Two of my ‘97’s are 300k+, and my 01 is at 375k. My old 97 dually uses oil when it gets closer to an oil change, but it’s pulled a trailer most of its life. The 01 has mostly banged around between places and checking water, so it doesn’t use a drop, as well as the 97. One of my 90’s was a dually, and used a little oil. The other was a traveler, hardly ever saw a trailer, and at 500k, would still chirp the belt when I shut it off.
Look at its use, see of it has a maintenance history, and just literally crawl under it, looking at everything. Could be a lot wrong with it, could be nothing.
Yea I’ve never had a diesel and technically never worked on one. The only thing I know to check is for blowby and oil leaks
blow by is the biggest thing that differentiates looking at a diesel vs a gasser
crawl under it is the best piece of advice in these comments. look for rust, look for leaks from transmission, transfer case, differentials.
if there’s anything that’s been added to it (winch, lights, sensors for gauges, etc) look to see how much effort the owner put into routing the wiring for all that stuff. if the owner took the time to tuck things away neatly/cleanly, put loom around wires, then that’s probably a sign that they take good care of their stuff.
keep in mind that you’re not just buying the engine, you’re buying the whole truck. the 20 year old dodge that surrounds the engine will probably give you a lot more headache than the ol cummins will
I have sold two of them at 500,000 that we’re still running strong actually wish I still had them
My five9/NV5600 '03 currently has 543K kms (337K miles) with all of it's original components, and only just recently has started to develop an injector misfire at hot idle, in the cold weather - which disappears at 850RPM (so basically touching the throttle)
Personally, my biggest concern would be the body on that truck you're looking at.
Three O’s after the T is too much, one is too few, two is just right.
I’ve reread that like 10 times. Wat? Maybe I need a nap
To - definition: 1. expressing motion in the direction of (a particular location). "walking down to the mall" 2. approaching or reaching (a particular condition). "Christopher's expression changed from amazement to joy"
Too - definition: 1. to a higher degree than is desirable, permissible, or possible; excessively. "he was driving too fast"
- in addition; also. "is he coming too?"
In other words, I was being a dick about your spelling, answering your question with criticism. 😁
Nah, if maintained they go 600-800k easy with just injector/pump swap halfway through. Like maybe a valve job on the head, maybe.
Convincing me pretty good to go for it. I googled it and most said 350k was average and made me not want a truck with 350 already
Just pass on it, you don’t know the history. I heard the same thing and bought one with roughly 300k and it gave out at 360k, bent a rod and cracked the head. Ended up just selling it for next to nothing, lost a ton of money on
Could you tell any of the problems before hand?
No it seemed fine before, when I bought it, it already had a ATS 47re… still had to rebuild it like 6 times in the 2 years I owned it. In my opinion you’re better off buying a 6.7 4th gen if you can spend the money. I’ve owned a 2nd gen, late 3rd gen and had an early 4th gen as a work truck and the 4th gen was definitely the most comfortable. All depends on what your doing with it but in my opinion 2nd gen’s are just old now with 20+ years of unknown work done to them rotting away, unless your a fanboy I’d stay clear
Mine sits at +360,000 and I bought it at ~260,000.
If the body is clean grab it. Body not clean, id pass.
Dent on the bed. Top portion looks like from loading and the passenger side door has a good size dent like a baseball hit it
A manual maybe. But an auto transmission not a chance.
Yea it’s an automatic but that’s something I’m curious is worth replacing or upgrading for a $7k truck
Those automatics are shit in a 2nd gen. Owned a 2001 24 valve with the auto tranny. Once the transmission started going everything started to go out. I would steer clear. You’d have to dump so much money into the thing even if you did all the work yourself. 12 valve on the other hand maybe. My buddy has 363k on his 12 valve and still daily drives it. But of course it’s a manual.
Ok so I’m about to blow the doors off a million. My grandpa got 1,000,000 miles on the first odometer (didn’t flick over. Got stuck at 999,999.9) got a new one in km ( we’re in Canada) put 430,000 km on it. Sold it. My dad met a guy making a custom 85, it had the old back seat from my grandpas 2000 dodge. My dad asked what the odometer read. It had 830,000 km on it. So that’s 1,000,000 miles, 830,000km. Or about 1.5 million miles, or 2.4 million km