The first truckload of petition signatures for the November Reproductive Freedom amendment has arrived in downtown. They have submitted well over 700,000 signatures!
PHOTOWhich is why it’s so fucking ridiculous that Issue 1 wants to shift it from 5% in 44 counties to all 88. 44 is hard enough.
It's precisely why they want that. They want it to pretty much not be possible while appearing "reasonable" to their apologist. They hate democracy and don't want us using ballot initiatives to push through things they know the majority on both sides of the aisle want.
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This can't be stated enough.
Vote no, this chicanery cannot be allowed to stand.
Remember, this is all for naught if Issue one passes in August. The deadline to register to vote in August is 7/10, so only 5 days away. It can be done online in just a few minutes https://ohio.gov/government/resources/register-to-vote-or-update-your-registration?ref=voteusa_en
Thankyou!Thankyou!Thank you! Cannot thank all of the hard-working folks who.persevered to get these signatures! VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1 ON AUGUST 8th 2023!
I signed both petitions, this one and the cannabis one. Anyone know how the cannabis one did? Last I spoke with someone which was at the Worthington arts festival they still needed 100k.
Thank you. I suppose I should have just checked the sub myself. Lol
My bad. The reproductive freedom post hit my front page. Hopefully this cannabis vote gets through. The last one was so poorly thought out and written.
If we have any chance of either the reproductive freedom or the cannabis initiative passing in November, we have to shoot down Issue One on August 8th.
Vote NO August 8th!!
Just as a FYI, the outcome of Issue 1 has no bearing on the marijuana initiative. Issue 1 passing would only affect constitutional amendments and the marijuana initiative is not a constitutional amendment. So it needs 50% to pass regardless of Issue 1.
Yes, many are confused about this.
FYI: Marijuana initiative collected 200,000 signatures, they needed 120,000. It will be close, as a ton got tossed last year.
Thank you! Good to know 🙂
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Put an AirTag in the boxes!
Right?!? I wouldn’t put it past “some people” to do whatever they could to keep this from happening.
An absolutely beautiful sight ❤️ proud to have collected around 100 of those lol.
Thank you for doing so!
The august 8th vote isn't a Republican vs Democrat issue, don't be fooled. Ballot initiatives are our best way to keep pushing through real progress since we have too many do nothing pandering politicians. It's the one way we can find issues we all have common ground on and get them through, don't trust anyone that wants to make it harder for we the people to have our say.
Maybe, but this sub keeps saying things that make it sound like a No vote is going to lead to legal abortion and weed within months. Which I'm all in favor of, I'm just saying that Republicans (including the ones that control the entire ballot measure process) do in fact have a vested interest in stripping us of referendum rights.
Blows my mind that 25 years after widespread internet access we still rely on paper signatures for such things.
This is the good news I needed today... thank you Ohio.
Proud to be one of these!!
Livestream for those interested.
So much awesome work by so many people! What a fantastic sight!
A huge thank to you to all of you who worked tirelessly to collect these signatures!
I typed in “Vote NO to Republican Bullshit” on my Google calendar for August 8th.
Great job!! now the real work begins
How many signatures are needed to get it on the ballot?
Little over 413,000
Nice, thanks!
So many boxes, it's starting to look like a Trump garage.
What is the process to say a signature is good or not? I can see republicans basically denying most of them for not be legible or whatever crap reason they are going to try. Then it goes to court which takes time and money and ends up with the kangaroo Ohio supreme court and we all know how they would rule. There will end up being 20,000 valid signatures according to republicans...
I can see republicans basically denying most of them for not be legible or whatever crap reason they are going to try.
This is why you always want to collect far more signatures than is required.
I agree and you would think 300,000+ extra would be way more than enough. But I think republicans know this has a very good chance of passing especially if the Aug election fails for them and that they will do everything to prevent that from happening. So I guess what I'm asking is what if republicans claim 500,000 signatures are not good. How does it get resolved? If it ends up in court republicans will win no matter how outrageous it would seem. And I certainly don't trust SCOTUS to issue a ruling that would allow citizens to vote to legalize abortion. I think republicans will want this to end up in court and either win or drag it out so long that it isn't on the ballot in November.
Good JOB!!!!!!!
Came here for the downvoted comments.
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Hey all - just curious if there are safeguards in place to prove none of these were doctored?
I love seeing democracy in action.
This is not a single issue vote.
If this had existed before constitutional carry passed it would of been much harder for that and other republican led ventures to make it through.
I am planning on supporting this bill by voting yes for it, but at the same time, I wish they had separated out all the non-abortion stuff from it.
I don't believe there is any non-abortion stuff in it. If you're talking about the transition stuff that people have been trying to tie to this bill, it isn't there.
As I mentioned in another comment: The problem is that the first clause contains the phrase "but not limited to".
The problem is that the first clause contains the phrase "but not limited to". This bill will be used to push for gender affirming care for kids, as well as keeping parents out of the loop. While I am 100% on board with adults being able to choose their gender, I don't feel the same about children doing so.
What does gender identity have to do with reproductive care? That seems like an awfully long stretch.
Even if it does, what portion of the population is transgender? A few percent?
I agree that they should be separate, however genital surgery and hormone treatment will, and has in the past, fallen under reproductive care.
As for the fact that it is only a few percent... are you saying that I shouldn't care about child abuse because the vast majority don't get abused? I am voting yes for this bill because I think the right to an abortion outweighs my objection to child endangerment, but I just wish that it wasn't even a factor, and it wouldn't have been if they hadn't included that "but not limited to"
I still feel you're making a real stretch to link this to the current moral panic....
So you're worried about surgeries that pretty much never happen to minors.... the anti Trans bills put exceptions in to allow unnecessary surgeries on Intersex minors, and in places like TN and GA require Autism and ADHD to be 'resolved' or you can't make you're own medical decisions.
I'm less worried about the surgeries, though they do still happen (though as you said they're rare. But that's no excuse to turn a blind eye to them). I am more concerned with puberty blockers and hormone treatments for children that are too young to understand the ramifications of such permanent decisions.
You realize those treatments don't happen until AFTER Dr's and therapists have treated them, discussed it etc.... There are disabled adults on puberty blockers, mostly women, simply because their caregivers don't want to deal with periods. But you're OK with that... leave other people's medical decisions between them and their Dr... you aren't their Dr or therapist
I never said I was ok with people being on puberty blockers or other medications that they don't need, in fact I never referenced that at all. That's a whole different issue.
You can shop for a doctor/therapist until you find one that agrees with just about anything, that doesn't stop people from doing things that are harmful. We don't let children get tattoos, why are we letting them make even more consequential decisions?
Puberty blockers are not harmful. JFC stop it. These bans are unconstitutional. You don't get to make other people's medical decisions.
You can shop for a doctor/therapist until you find one that agrees with just about anything
So because your doctor, Tucker Carlson, told you it was unsafe, you're willing to bet your Facebook Memes against current medical literature.
I cannot believe the audacity. You got abortion banned so now you need to go after something else. Why won't you get out of our hospital rooms?? You are not my doctor or my kids doctor and it's quite honestly none of your damn business.
This may be difficult for you to understand, due to the inherent nature of identity. I presume you are happy with "who you are?"
I want you to try to remember your childhood. Specifically those times when you knew something to be true, but an adult told you it wasn't. Or those times when you were disillusioned, like when you were told that lying was bad, then learned about the hypocrisy of "little white lies," etc.
Children understand WAY more about the world than adults give them credit for, the difference is thar children haven't been pressed to fit the mold of the adults' manufactured reality. And children inherently know what they are (as opposed to what their parents or the adults around them CHOOSE to believe they are ). There is a distinct feeling when you're "in the wrong body." Idk how to express it, but those who have felt it know it.
The Christians will say "God doesn't make mistakes." That may be true, but nature makes mistakes all the time; it's how humans came to be. It's why we don't have a long-term cure for Influenza. In this case, nature's mistake was building a body that didn't align with the brain, or if you want to be spiritual about it, the body wasn't built to reflect the soul that it houses.
The process for transitioning is a torture you probably will never comprehend. But it is done because it fulfils the individual, who KNOWS that they are "in the wrong body."
More importantly: denying trans rights will lead to more trans kids killing themselves, and more bigots murdering trans kids. 10k extra children were born in Texas this year bc of anti-abortion bills. Statistically, 1000 of those children WILL be LGBT. Of those, about 200-300 will be trans. Without gender affirming care and a supportive culture, those 300 children will eventually die, probably horribly, as a result of the same trans panic you are engaging in. I don't expect to change yoyr mind with my response; that's almost impossible when you (general, not specific) are fundamentally incapable of comprehending the identity issue. But whenever you talk about how you don't agree with gender Affirmation stuff, I expect you to remember that that sentiment will get those babies, those children, those people, killed.
A very well thought out and reasoned sentiment. I may not agree with everything you said/the conclusion you reached, but thank you for sharing it with me.
Edit: sorry August is on my mind. Thought you were saying Vote Yes August.
Why are you voting yes? Why shouldn't it be a simple majority?
100% voting no in August, and 100% voting yes on this bill, but I just hate when they throw in a ton of issues into the same bill, so that if you want to support one thing in it, you have to support all of it.
So if this was a blue state you'd want to make sure Democrats kept your issues from never having a chance?
I completely understand. Winning at all costs, even if it erodes democracy. When needing more than half is too close for you, just make it 60%. Seems super reasonable in Authoritarian land.
I understand reading is tough, but try again. I said that I oppose the 60%, and that I will be voting No in August.
So many cosponsors of murder.
So, how many children have you adopted?
How many families do you helped with child care?
Medical care? Food? Shelter? Clothing? Transportation?
Are these fetuses no longer of any interest to you after they are born, or do you just tout slogans?
EDIT: realized my last sentence didn't quite track.
Because you can only oppose murder if you are willing to adopt the victim.
This'll be a great defense to spring on the District Attorney...
So, are we circling back to "that tiny clump of cells is sacrosanct!" combined with "get a job, you deadbeat slut!" ?
While we're at this, serious question, how do you feel about comprehensive sexual education in schools and easily and cheaply available birth control? Both of these have been shown to drastically reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, thus rendering the argument over elective abortion almost moot.
About your question: education and birth control are fine, but boring.
But we haven't "circled back" to anything: your argument is that in order to object to attempted murder, you have to adopt the victim. That's what I responded to.
Yours is about the same point that racist Steven Douglass tried to spring on Ol Abe: "You can't oppose slavery unless you invite freed slaves to live in your own house and fuck your own wife!" That wasn't an exact quote, but that's what racists wanted to hear: you can't support even the most basic human decency (opposing slavery, opposing murder) unless you take full responsibility for the person. And exactly no one wanted to do that: those abolitionist hypocrites just opposed slavery without personally adopting anyone.
Tut-tut, that's half measures. If only we had easy abortion between 1865 (end of civil war) and 1964 (civil rights act). I mean, really, we shouldn't have outlawed slavery until our country was ready to support free blacks /s, but at least abortion would have prevented all those poor unsupported people from being born until a social safety net began to emerge.
So despite our setbacks, on behalf of Douglass let's "thank God" for Roe v Wade, which has successfully cut the surplus black population by 30%! /s
See: Straw Man Argument
You want women to be forced to bear children that they don't want but you won't to care for those children yourself.
You want women to risk their lives to bear a child against their will but you won't help them care for that child.
You want to force women into slavery and make spurious arguments quoting pro-slavery figures to say that's OK.
You're just another hypocrite that wants dictate other people's lives and dodge the consequences.
Murder is wrong.
It's silly to demand that all of society be fixed before murder is outlawed. There are zero perfect societies, yet murder is illegal in nearly every society.
It's silly to disqualify people from saying murder is wrong, just because they are not saints. It does not take a saint to know that murder is wrong.
But essentially murdering women is ok. Got it.
And, I feel pretty confident that you’re the type of person to defend your right to own a gun. Those aren’t weapons of murder, are they.
Big difference between murder and "essentially murder". In the US, pregnancy has a 0.025% chance of death. Vs abortion which is nearly 100% effective. 0.025% vs 100%, BIG difference. Stop being stupid.
Also, what's your point about guns? Guns can be used for hunting and target shooting- owning a gun is not murder. But if someone does murder with a gun, guess what? They go to jail. Do you have a problem with this?
Or do you want things with only the potential for murder to be outlawed? In that case why are you still defending abortion?
You are stupid. And fuck you. If you can’t see that guns are an enormous problem and kill THOUSANDS and will continue to do so, you are an imbecile.
But, you’ve already proved that you’re a fucking moron. And, by making abortion illegal, aren’t you also preventing “possible” abortions? Yes, asshole. You’re moronic argument works that way, too.
Let’s force asshole men like you to get vasectomies. Then we won’t need abortion rights. No body autonomy you either, dickhead.
Opposing murder to enforce torture before death? That sounds great. Basically no person who is aborted is going to get a good start because their parent(s) don't want them. Even ignoring abortions that are meant to save the mother's life, you think that forcing someone to care for someone else that they don't love or want is healthy for anyone?
Murder's bad, mmkay? I mean, maybe it's a sometimes food, but not like a million times a year. Get real.
But you seem to be fine with killing - murdering - women. You didn’t ask, but YTA.
Pregnancy kills less than a thousand people a year. Versus around a million abortions. Pregnancy mortality (0.025%) is unintentional, while abortion (100%) is intentional.
Your equating the two is idiotic.
It is. In this case though that is irrelevant as you cannot murder something that isn't alive. You're right, sometimes it is food, though we do murder millions a year for that.
Whether or not it is murder is a completely different issue. But you said "Opposing murder to enforce torture before death?" As in, if it was murder, abortion would still be ok.
If abortion was murder, it would still be justified to you. A million times a year. That's fucked up.
That's fair, and you are correct. I would still think it would be acceptable in cases where the mother is in danger and should generally be a choice by the parents. It's better than the alternative and it helps to control population growth, though this seems to be becoming less of an issue over time as people can now better choose how many children they want to have. Thanks in part to access to birth control and abortion. Things we could still expand.
Holy crap, a reasonable response. We don't deserve you.
Morally I imagine that abortion runs a full spectrum from hygiene to manslaughter, and by and large it's the pregnant woman's choice what it is and means. Is it alive? Is it dead? Is it murder? Is it not murder? These are all questions that for a season only a single person can answer. Society does not get a say.
That's what some people can't get over: all of ethics and morality in this life or death question comes down to "to thine own self be true". Especially if the "thine own self" is a fifteen year old single black woman: some second class citizen has God by the balls, and that is unacceptable.
But instead of building acceptance of this tough truth, some politicos dodge the issue and pretend like murder is an acceptable solution to inconvenience.
Whatever you say.
I won't deign to define it myself. I don't think any one person can, and I don't think society can. It is and will be present whether it is legal or not. Without any answers or any scientific way to determine the answers there's no way we will come to decision. Until it is possible to determine the objective truth, it is, as you say, up to the individual to look within themselves and at the world around them to determine what they think. Though nobody's self is anymore an arbiter of truth, and certainly if God exists, no one has him by his omnipotent "balls". There is no question of what is unacceptable because what you are describing is not possible.
Also, referring to that hypothetical individual as a second class citizen does not read well in this context. I think you are suggesting that there are people who believe that disenfranchised individuals should be the decision makers on what is or isn't moral, but it could read a lot worse than that.
How about supporting other sentient humans’ rights to decide what’s best for THEIR OWN BODIES??
You do understand that women - actual LIVE women - must carry those fetuses, right? Like, you do understand how that all works?
So yes. If you’re FORCING women to remain pregnant against their will, you’d damn well better be willing to support those babies until they’re 18!!
Share your info. We’ll have the administration garnish your wages.
Some people have such a visceral reaction to the opponents of murder. "I have the right to murder whenever the fuck I want! You know why? Because you won't adopt the victim!"
Nope. Murder's bad, and I'm not adopting anyone.
We’ll have the administration garnish your wages.
LOL that's called "taxes" ever heard of 'em?
The same can be said of you, only you’re killing actual women. But, women don’t matter, right? 🙄 You ARE the problem!!
Anti Abortion bills literally killing pregnant people is ok though 🙄 Maternal Death rates are skyrocketing but sure force more people to carry fetuses.
You have an NFT avatar.
Hey now…
You have an adorable NFT avatar.
If by affordable you mean ✨Free✨ then yes, yes I do lol.
Adorable! The cost is irrelevant if it’s a cute little critter.
murder
Murder is bad (don't touch my guns though)
shut the fuck up, you don't give a single shit about women's health or the health of that baby after its born.
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19 citizen-initiated amendments since 1913 is rapid to you?
Would you like it to be less or none in the next 100 years? The underlying issue is that this separates the people from their government another degree. The voice of the people will then be silenced by a taller hurdle.
It doesn’t matter if you’re Republican or Democrat, this will impact Americans who reside in Ohio.
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What those petitions have to contain: (I was curious):