There are still people alive from this era of South African history
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It's been 33 years. It's recent history.
Yep, it's only been 67 years since Ghana's independence. And Ghana was first.
I’m Coloured and 52 years old. I remember when trains were still segregated. My friend and I were chronically late for our morning train to school. I remember us racing along the platform to get to the non-white carriages before the train left.
I also have a memory from childhood of my mom, brother and I sitting in our car on a beachfront car park. It was winter and we just wanted to watch the waves. There was no one else around. A police van pulled up and the policeman ordered us off because it was a Whites-only beach. The police were brutal to people of colour and I was terrified we’d be arrested.
School was regularly disrupted due to protests and riots. I learned what tear gas smelled like before I started primary school. Kids from my high school went to prison due to their anti-Apartheid activities.
Is it surprising there are still people alive from the 90s? I feel old.
Lol I'm 20 and I feel ancient but the sign in particular is from 1948.
Oh they're still there. As soon as something does go the white way, the British are there. Also SA is part of the "Commonwealth"?
Sa is part of the Commonwealth but it's not like Canada or Australia where the British monarch is still the head of government and can veto laws as far as I know.
Sister.
The British still pull the strings and control industry. Whites control farmland, you still have white only towns in SA. It's just like in West Africa, the countries think they are independent yet France controls the industry, determines their currency and puts the monies in France. You don't have to be president/prime minister to control a country.
You feel ancient at the age of 20? Women, I guess. /s
Unbelievable, I'm from the 80s.
Demonic
But white people tell you this was the glory age of South Africa because the economy was booming and there was "no crime". I dont care if I get banned for this comment, fuck those people. Go back to Britian/Netherlands and take Afrikaans with you.
I’ve heard that English-speaking whites are far more prone to supporting racial equality than Afrikaners.
Really, it's smoke and mirrors. If they want to be racist, they can both do it. There's a myth that Anglo South Africans are more liberal, but it's cap. The one difference though, which I would observe as cultural, is Afrikaans people are very up front. What you see is what you get with them. You won't be wondering where you stand with that person. Anglo culture values the opposite.
There’s an English speaking Afrikaner in my class at school(I’m in America) they seem to have a very high amount of prejudice against the Zulu folk, saying that they light people on fire with tires.
Namibian with roots in both: I agree with this.
But I've seen younger generations overall become more progressive as a whole so that's a good trend I'm very glad to see
That’s awesome. I’ve heard Namibia is a beautiful country and I’d love to travel there one day:)
You should! We're very welcoming and warm as a people. Racial harmony is high here compared to SA as well.
When the heat is trying to kill you, you just don't have the energy for racism lol
Bahahaha that’s great. I’m studying abroad in Botswana next year (during which time I’m gonna try to also hit up Namibia and South Africa) and the heat is the only thing I might not be excited about😆
Shall we ask the African countries still colonized by the English? 🤔
Someone else should answer. I am biased, I think the west, east and arabs have done too much in Africa. I do think Africa is getting just as sick and tried and about to do it themselves.
I get it. What are we North Africans supposed to do regarding fighting racism? We have so many problems regarding hypocrisy, double-standards, intolerance and regional racism. I have given up confronting biased and racist North Africans with their nonsense. Heck, we even have (regional) racism in our own families. Some of us are fighting a massive tide filled with ignorance and hypocrisy and it badly affects our societies, friends and even families. I think same applies for Southern Africans and many other Africans. We need love, not hatred.
The ANC has lost its way, it's unfortunate. We're under a microscope, the slightest error will give the whites justification.
The name South Africa needs to die and be called Azania. Ether way, the country helped broker peace in my country Liberia. So if they want support in the conflict, I'm there.
Jesus also destroyed Egypt for enslaving his children and then gave the riches of the Egyptians to his children as payment while Israel were stepping over the dead children of the Egpytians. Using Jesus to deflect immortality isnt going to float here. You can move on with your nonsense now.
That is their real problem. They want peace without justice, and forgiveness without guilt. The very idea, that Africans deserve justice is not something they seem to understand.
Exactly and where do you see Jesus not advocating for justice? They always trying to sprinkle bible verses to cover their misdeeds. Jesus called those people vipers.
You couldn't have said it better.
The issue isn't Jesus, the issue is you lol
Crazy how indigenous people all over the world were virtually subjugated this way, and those who descend from those who were prepretators of these policies seem to downplay the significance of their harm.
ETA: I stand corrected from reading further comments.
Virtually? There was no two ways about it, they were absolutely subjugated.
I know I sound idealistic in saying this but I pray there's a renaissance for all indigenous people and people of the African diaspora. Even if it's in 100-200 years.
Their kids still talk misty eyed about those days on two SA subs.
There are people who still act like they live in apartheid era.
The thing is these people allow it how can you have someone treat you bad in your own country?
If anything it just shows that we have no true respect for ourselves and we have no true pride in ourselves even today in 2024 how could you let someone anybody doesn't matter who talk to you and treat you badly in your own country?
And this is a common thing and it's not going to stop until we fix this and I don't know if he even will because unfortunately in America around the world a lot of us are lost and a lot of us are simply have no pride in ourselves
No thank you. I'd rather live in a non-communist racial diverse south africa than a communist black nationalist south Africa. This is coming from a coloured
And that's the sad thing and this is why we will never ever get anyway because you standing here and voting against your best interest even though these people did the worst to us we're still here voting against our best interest.
Not colored you're black because when they look at you they don't see white.
You're doing what you're supposed to do the whole point of this quote on quote colored was you were a buffer class between the black people and the white people and you the buffer class are supposed to make sure the status quo stays the status quo and you're doing exactly what you're literally engineer to do and it's sad.
And if you think I'm making any of this up you can spend 10 minutes and Google it
Race is a social construct and the categories are all made up. What racial category someone belongs to depends on time and place (and quite honestly who you're asking).
Really fucking mind-blowing if you ask me. Like yeah, obviously no one likes extremism but the truth is when every other community in the entire world is willing to go there except for us, apartheid favoring foreigners in your own country is what you end up with.
Imo every black community should have a communitarist aspect, not out of hate for others but out of self-preservation considering how the entire world at some point in their history has been antagonizing us, weither through their social hierarchy or straight up war crimes. Its just common sense at this point.
You can perfectly be welcoming of people different than you and push for progress while silmutaneously aknowledge that most of these same ppl have been trying to kill us or subjugate us, and act accordingly. If anything that makes us MORE prone to progress, as all it takes is stepping outside to see the exact type of human beings we dont want to be.
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