So tired of "XYZ role is easy/garbage" claims. When will we all grow up and drop the main character syndrome?

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So for context, I play a good bit of every role on fill, with ADC, Support, and Jungle being my main roles (in that order). With this being said, I follow every *insert role here* main subreddit and you would be surprised as to how much people casually shit on one another's roles. I don't know if it is just copium or if some of these players are truly this delusional and infected with main character syndrome, but I would just like to remind everyone that if any one role is so easy, then I urge you to try and hit Challenger on it, then I will respect your claim.

The reality is that every role has its individual struggles, and there is no such thing as an "easy role".

"Top is an island and has no impact?" Exactly! You try and play the game weak-sided, counter-picked, then still stomping, just to have your team FF15 anyways.

"JG Diff, no objectives?" Maybe if JG had prio for anything, their job would be much easier.

"ADC Gap, no damage" For all you know, they were perma fighting 3v1 if they had a roaming Support and were constantly weak-sided from JG. People are aware of how difficult a Top lane counter-pick can be, but forget that ADCs sometimes LITERALLY have to spend the game 2v1 if they have a roam-heavy Sup, and are expected to do so effectively, without complaining.

This extends to every role and I am not going to write it out for everything, but you get the gist of it. Every role has its struggles, and until you've played that role to a very high level, I think we should all do our best to stop flaming each other so much. I was mainly urged to make this post because I am very active in both r/ADCMains and r/supportlol since those are my two main roles, and I get tired of each role constantly flaming one another for things they clearly have no idea on.

For example, people like to always talk about how Support has a high skill floor, which I agree on. However, they don't understand that high skill floor does not equate to easy, as Support also has a high skill ceiling. There is a reason that it is referred to as one of the most impactful roles, which comes with lots of responsibility. Put any Gold player on Support against a Challenger Bard main, and they will quickly find out how "easy" it can be. Once again, this also extends to other roles, but Support is just the easiest to make an example of. Just because Big Tonka T hit Challenger on all roles including Support years ago and called it easy, does not mean you get to shit on every Support and call them boosted, lmfao.

In the words of Rodney King, "Why can't we all just get along?"

Some of you guys are the reason I made the amazing decision to turn League's in-game chat off, and I've been so much happier since then. Rant over. Cheers.

EDIT: I meant that Support has a low skill floor but high skill ceiling. The role is easy to start and takes low skill to perform fairly well, but has a lot of intricacies at both the mechanic and macro level in High ELO.

in ADCMainsby Haunting_Aardvark_87

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Haunting_Aardvark_87

1mo

Of all the names you just mentioned, Rekkles is the only one with a valid opinion considering he has played Support at the pro level alongside other roles. Even so, it doesn't change my claim. Everything is relative and to say "a role is easy" with no basis doesn't make sense. Tyler clearly has a good understanding of the game, so him playing Ivern Jungle and Nautilus Support, some of the simplest champs in the game, doesn't mean he is good at either of those respective roles. Agurin himself, consistent Rank 1 EUW Jungler, perma bans Ivern because he says he takes no skill. Nautilus is also one of the easiest engage Supports with a literal Vi ult... Doublelift is 30 years old, washed, and can't even hit Challenger half the time on his own role.

At the end of the day, calling a particular role "easy" doesn't mean anything if you don't prove it via playing it yourself. Even then, that still doesn't particularly mean the role is easy, it just means you are good at it. Since everyone keeps targeting Support (for obvious reasons), I'll just continue with this particular example. If Support was so easy, every ADC main could just switch to Support and hit at least Diamond, no problem. Right? Except how often does that really happen. Everything is relative and although you might be able to play Support better than most Support mains (which is especially true in lower ELOs), it doesn't mean that Support is easy, it just means that Support players tend to be less skilled. Has nothing to do with the role.

cpyf

1mo

Ok but what about the arguably the best solo queue player in the world, Dopa who has reached #1 on CN servers multiple times has also voiced the same opinion that Support is an easy role? Obviously pro play and solo queue but 99% of the player base will not be in pro play so his opinion is still jut as valid.

My peak was Diamond as a support main. I swapped to other roles and realized how ass I was at the game. I'll just say that support takes the least amount of mechanics and knowledge to climb. You don't have to farm. You don't have to keep track of jungle timers. You don't have to trade as much. Hence why it is considered the "easiest" out of all the 5 roles. Its not meant to be an insult, its just facts. I am not sure why you're so offended by this common sentiment.

Haunting_Aardvark_87

1mo

I am not offended and Support isn't even my main role. But I just disagree, and it is okay to agree to disagree. My point is that at the top level, all roles are equally difficult and encounter their own struggles. If *insert role here* is the easiest, then you are simply playing it wrong and not trying hard enough. Kudos to you for hitting Diamond on Support, but that just means that you are a good Support. Doesn't make you a bad player, it just means that you are only a good Support and that is fine. I urge any non-support player to try and play against Keria or Beryl, for example. They are getting gapped 10/10 times. Shit, throw Tarzaned, the best solo queue Jungler in NA on Support in the Brazil tournament, and bro realized that he could only play Janna and Maokai correctly. And this is the BEST SOLO QUEUE JUNGLER NA.

EDIT: And I do agree with the general sentiment that Support players tend to be worse than other players when off-role, but that is largely because of how unique Support is in the sense that you don't have to CS. Support players typically only make good Support players and that is fine. Even if the average Support player is worse than your average player of any other role, you can't use Bronze Lulu OTPs to justify calling a whole role easy.

dragoflares

1mo

I mean your argument is flawed. You dont make comparison with the highest and the lowest, you compare using the average.

I urge any non-support player to try and play against Keria or Beryl, for example. They are getting gapped 10/10 times

So its just like I say golf is easy, and you say lets see whether you can beat tigerwood. No shits he played professionally for decades. He would just get gapped as well if he go into other field other than golf.