My Longest G.E Offer Has Finally Completed after 4 Years
AchievementI remember mining pure essence and banking in varrock to make money for my full dragon back in the day. Simpler times
Grinding for a big purchase seemed to take significantly more effort and dedication back then.
it mostly required the gathering skills and shit-loads of grinding but OSRS is kinda ruined with the PvM drop-tables in my opinion. Gathering should still be making good money, oh well.
Back in 2006 when Pure Ess was added, we already had DKs and barrows, were 1 year away from GWD. PvM was already "better gp/hr" than everything besides merching, pvp, and sand casino. Even something like green drags was better than most skilling methods.
The only really competitive skilling money maker back then was 2x nats, but that was locked behind 100s hours of the worst skill in the game.
It was just that most of us were kids and didn't know better. So doing shit like chopping trees, fishing sharks, etc seemed insane.
but the percentage of people who had the ability to take advantage of high pvm were very, very small.
even if combat was popular, most people were doing shit like training at blue drags and other shit (guilty), i was only just finding out about those "smart" training methods like bandits and shit from swiftswitch/msn contacts back then, or whatever that one in deep ass wildy in the two houses were.
where you just get to basically afk all day (unless pk'd). like most people were nooby as fuck. we didn't have wiki's, we didn't have anything really, anything genuinely good was told with the "you can't tell anyone about this method, i got it from a friend in a pk clan and he wasn't supposed to tell me" shit.
2006-era was OG pest control. Most people, especially if you were on a client like swift with IRC channels, just camped the high level world for combat levels and some passive gp.
Hell, playing PC and spending your zeal on herb packs was better gp/hr than most skilling methods back then as well.
DKs even with duo/trio splits, was still better than everything but 2x nats(duo better on average, trio slightly worse), while not being locked behind 91 RCing. I agree a lot of people just didn't know or care about efficiency and just did what they wanted, but that doesn't really change the fact that pvm was already better than skilling in that era of hte game.
og pest control got nerfed fairly quick though, i remember that release date. i didn't play after about a month after it came out for a while, when i came back i remember a lot of interest in it had gone. was it still better even after that than most other methods?
Og PC lasted around 15 months before the nerf, so it was "quick" in a sense but it was more than enough time to level if you wanted.
Yeah PC was pretty much the go-to training method pre-nerf to any account build, as long as you were able to quickly scout and find the high-level worlds for fast games. Post-nerf it wasn't as great but still decent, as games were now time-gated by the portals. The trade off was that Void armor got massive buff in time to buy and it's usefulness.
My favorite memory was playing PC at launch, and I stumbled onto the infinite point glitch, got 100k xp with it and then got shit scared and logged off...got away with it, I know, what a mad lad you're thinking...
Guthans at bandits whenever I was working and then PC with friends whenever I could actually pay attention was the way to go. Barrows and abyssal demons for money.
When hunter came out that shit was gas
My 8 year old ass begged my dad to buy me some online RuneScape money making guide and it pretty much just told me to run lobbies from Karamja all day. Which I was already doing lmaoo
Yo same. First tip I remember was like to kill chickens and sell feathers for the first 100k. God damn.
Definitely bought a guide too lol
Yah but it was not so busted like today. Lobsters used to be 300, no 97. Essence and flax were actual moneymakers. Now PVM and very weird purchasing from NPC mechanics are the only viable low level makers.
Lobsters being 20k gp/hr vs 60k gp/hr doesn't really matter when you have an alternative like tempoross for low levels that would give them the same(usually more on average) 62k gp/hr at 40 fishing, only getting better as they level.
I personally don't care if the 100k gp/hr pure ess miners are gone. It wasn't fun, it wasn't good xp/hr, and it wasn't good gp/hr. We just did it as kids because we didn't know better. Same with the slave labor that was picking flax.
And now we have more, and better, skilling methods than we did back in the 2006-era. The only issue is bots tanking the prices.
Make all not fun things 0 gp/h.
Got it.
I mean in a sense, yeah? If it's not fun for players, most people won't want to do it, so it gets taken over by bots. Pure ess and flax are 2 major examples of this, especially back in 2006.
Adding these resources to drop tables removes the need for players to do the shit content, and removes the incentive to bot it.
Obviously you wouldn't do it literally everything that isn't "fun" tho, as that's completely subjective.
Just get rid of the bots then. 🤷♂️
Sadly what happens is those methods gets usually super botted. And when a resource is only collected by bots, then it gets nerfed through stuff like Zulrah & NMZ
Just get rid of the bots then. 🤷♂️
Is it good game design to make resource collection unfun and little experience but rewarding to trade to other players? Of course not, that is just asking for bots
Just get rid of the bots. 🤷♂️
Here's the thing, pvm drops killed the profit on skilling. The more abundance items are in the economy the lower the price. I'm fine with the bosses dropping high level items, but you dont need 100 noted lobster and 500 law runes too.
Everyone says this but no one has a solid alternative to what they should drop instead.
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First of all removing noted drops would be a huge change. How does say a dragon end up with bank notes anyway? If a boss drops 100 noted lobster, people generally bank it. If it dropped 100 lobster then you could maybe kill another before having to bank, but you sure won't be banking more then a few lobster. Less lobster in supply drives up prices.
They shouldn’t drop anything other than uniques.
Busted today because the pvm drops killed prices.
This,
and your only source of information was: - other players - forums - tip.it / zybez / runehq / runevillage.
There was no YouTube.
There was no wiki.
So how were you to know that cutting yews wasn't good money?
My 12 year old selfs RuneScape journey consisted of me killing a unicorn, seeing that the horns were worth like 600gp and then spending the next year killing them to buy a dragon set I didn't have the stats to wear.
I was a lvl 76 with base 70-78 combat skills who learned the sand casino real well. Obby rings, dds, and d long( shortly d scim then whip ) were my go to. I had a few weeks after obby rings were introduced that high levels bet me 10’s to 100’s of Ms based on being way lower combat and not understanding my method, which involved obstacles and timing attacks. Spent a fair amount of time in there with Sparc Mac too lol.
Made it to about 45 Santa’s, 45 of each h ween mask, tons of pumpkins and Easter eggs, and multiple of each phat. Then they finally caught on to what I was doing and let’s just say.. it crashes as hard as it rises LOL. Lost it all. But looking back I’m happy to have been a level 76 or so and smack 126’s.
(I do think I made it into the low to mid 80 combat range while I was still doing this since duel arena gave you cb xp)
Yup, back in the day everyone had a trade. I was a fisherman and hung out at Cathy most evenings. I sold my catch to a school friend who was a chef.
Some people were lumberjacks selling to fletchers, others were miners selling to the black smiths outside varrok bank on world 1 or 2. Others were a jack of all trades but most were masters of none
It was a real functional economy where if there was a gap in the market it would be felt all over gillinor.
I was the lumberjack, my sister was the fletcher, our little brother was our bitch. Good times
So he picked the flax then?
Lumberjack here checking in. Getting to magics was the best day of my childhood life.
You'd go world 1 or 2 and there were specific patches to sell materials in and around varrock.
I eventually moved over to rune essence (when they released it?). To sell to law runners and eventually dabbling myself.
This was cool, cos you didn't need the rune crafting level to make good money, people would stand there, you'd trade them the essence, they'd exchange for laws.
There were often 100s and 100s of people running the essence compared to few people having the runecrafting level to do it so it was mutual for everyone and had its own exchange going on.
I did nature running for a bit, there were 2 less ess because you needed a slot for coins to un note at the general store and 1 for anti poison but you got the runes and about 10K per run.
I used to abyss run when doing nat runs for other people. It was always fun showing up at the altar with the skull as a super low level with no rc levels being surrounded by higher level players doing your method.
I remember telling people I was mining gold for an Abby whip back in ‘06 and getting made fun of
But guess who ended up buying a whip while they were still inexplicably using peasant weapons??
The GE & botting ruined it.
No gathering should not be good money making that's how you make the bot problem EVEN WORSE
Like congratulations you managed to do the unthinkable you suggested a way to make bots even worse then jagex is doing by doing nothing.
Jagex is slightly tilting the balance of this. Moving away from just dumping hundreds of noted skilling resources onto drop tables of new bosses, and making some sources of items only attainable from skilling. Zeah blood runecraft is extremely afk, like the 3rd best non-runner based xp and makes like 1m/hour.
The problem is that gathering skills like we have them right now aren't up to today's fun gameplay standards. Skilling needs some love and well designed content but sadly everyone just cares about pvm nowadays.
Would love if the game had gone a different direction regarding loot tables. Have supplies, uniques, minimal skilling secondaries and possible small xp rewards for something a little different. Skilling is too far behind at this point. Catching 1 shark per however long is not worth it
I would have loved if the pvm rewards gave items and methods to raise exp rates, but not item generation. It would reward people, but not crash the markets for anyone that isn't a bot.
Problem is that irons cry about having to gather instead of do pvm
They cry about pvm too
As someone who played back in the day, this is still how I do it. I get nowhere quickly, but I'm in a mindset that I don't wanna learn new tricks.
So in other words, I'm just fuckin stupid.
Touchè, learnings most difficult challenge is patience.
Cause you were worse. If you could magically go back in time you'd be rushing to boss stats and making bank in 1/2 months.
I pretty much spent all my time training in the stronghold of security, fishing a full invent of trout/salmon at barb village and rinse repeat.
And gear felt far more significant when you had to stand at a bank for (sometimes) hours constantly posting your buy offer for a rune kite shield, with 40k that took all school holidays to get.
“Big purchase” of like a mil😅
Ahh, I still remember fishing sharks at 76 fishing for WEEKS to save up for an Abyssal Whip back in the OG RS2 days. Simpler times indeed
More effort and dedication to my schooling so I could actually play during summer. Now I half ass everything to afk and watch the number go up.
I mean tbow is 1.7b so is that really true lol?
Back then the best gear grinding took prob 100 hours at most
Helped alot for me moving from being a 10 year old kid watching my character mine pure essence to almost being 30 and just having those grindy stuff on my 2nd monitor instead of actually paying attention while I mine stuff like stats.
You were probably just worse at the game? Game communities as a whole will also will get better over the years
Nah there's just a lot more options now to get materials & before the ge it was definitely more tedious to make money
Yeah probably a bit of both tbh
Yep, then I'd run essence to people for Law runes and sell the law runes for like 600-700gp each. That and picking flax were my main money makers as a kid.
Will never forget 2 friends coming over after middle school to stay over for the weekend and the 3 of us were just grinding out pure essence or me fishing sharks to afford whips d boots and armor to do barrows. 2 of us told our one friend to also level up his prayer with us or he will die in one hit to Dh at low hp. Man didn’t listen and got clapped for an 80; I’ve never to this day seen someone rage quit so hard at something
I remember mining and selling 2k coal at a time in Falador to afford full Rune in F2P. Simpler times.
I remember that shit too, there was always a packed line as well. Those were the days!
I thought I was an idiot for doing this back then. Guess I forgot how much I was making.
Selling pure ess
One of the first money making tasks I ever did was get flax, turn to bowstring and sell it for full rune to pk in.
That's a core memory of mine loll I did the same exact shit except stopped once I discovered I was a good pker.
And that's because pvm wasn't the primary producer of pure ess. And runes were stupid expensive so even at 100 gp each you still made tons of money rcing
The first thing i ever botted on the main game back in 2009. I was always relatively poor (limited to 1 hour of gameplay max per day) and I came across botting. In the first week I remember i let it run over the night without my parents knowing and I got around 600k worth of pure essence, king of the world type feel.
reported
Me and the homies would mine ess and bs
Yeh same, i used to mine it at aubury and bank in varrock. Was honestly good gp for back then.
I remember back in the day when there was only one type of essence.
out of curiosity, are you talking about in actual RS2 or near the beginnings of OSRS? i didnt play old school in the first few years but im pretty curious what the prices of stuff was back then
i used to alternate mining ess and picking/spinning flax
Fr.
Idk why it never happens till now but you just unlocked a childhood memory of selling those in varrock bank after mining them in the essence mine.
I remember spending what felt like forever in 12-year-old time to mine 1000 pure essence (banking in Varrock East) for 100k in order to buy a rune halberd because I thought halberds were the coolest weapon in the game.
But it was also expected that you botted all the grinds
Now people don’t do that
And then NMZ and Zulrah happened lol
which is fine, mining it sucks.
Now double it and give it to the next person
I’m thinking that’s the plan. Ez 9m profit
Now put them in for 1k ea and wait another 4 years.
lmao that's awesome
If anyone ever sells a tbow for 69,420gp my 5+ year old offer is first in line
Think again, bud. 8 years.
Gg
name checks out
I know you’re joking but how does this actually work? If I list a t bow for 1 gp, does it sell for 1 gp or to the person with the highest offer currently? And if multiple people each have the same value as the highest offer, would it go to the person with the longest standing one?
Highest offer currently, and yea
Yeah longest standing, but offers can go inactive if you log out for I think 1 or 2 weeks, in which you lose your spot.
If you have active membership your offer always stands
Incorrect
highest offer first, longest standing offer amongst the highest offers first. But if you create a sell offer thats too low let's say for 1 gp and there are no buy offers other than a troll buy offer for 420gp then you just sold your valuable bow for 420gp.
The same way if you buy something that's worth 500k for 1m and someone is selling it for 512k you are getting the rest of the money back but if you try to buy for 1m and there is nobody selling then you will have a buy offer sitting at 1m and the next guy selling will make good money from you as he gets the full 1m.
The sad part about this is that there are bots abusing this for obscure items and that it is sometimes used to RWT with unknown items.
He’s probably not joking, I have a few offers in on 100m+ items for like 500k-1m each and they’ve been in the G.E for years. I managed to score ~90 dragon chain bodies for 1k gp each when they announced the dragon plate body. Some guy dumped his on the G.E for cheap to instasell presumably because they were crashing. I also managed to score like 10k rune nails for 10 gp each. I have two offers open for a few obscure items that I always manage to score 1-2 for cheap once a month because people probably sell for 1 gp to instasell.
Don't mind me putting one in for 69,696
Except even if you're the highest offer, I'm pretty sure the game would buy the tbow instead to remove it from game.
I remember paying noobs 20gp each to mine rune ess for me and selling em for double, pure wasn't available back then
Are you sure 4 years? I’ve had a purchase of 1m essence in there for 1gp each for like a week now and have gotten 800k of them so far.
Yeah this is 50 days of buy time
Time to RC them all in under 4 years
why 9m instead of an even 10m lol. this kinda bothers me
Why not? But also probably only had 9m to buy in the budget
I remember a time when failing a Jad run would mean that you might never financially recover from it
how much higher the pressure must have been when supplies were rare and valuable and you actually had to trade some shady people in varrock west and make sure you dont buy strength potions, damn.
you gonna runecraft them all?
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The new Avatar Air Bender
no he waits for the next jagex fuckup where they attempt to fix things that never needed fixing and increase essence prices by a factor of 10
Damn so it’s you that’s been taking the market
I did one of these, took me 3 years to buy 500k air tiaras for 1gp each
I remember doing like 200k redberry seeds
Curious what your ROI will end up being
The long flip. Absolute mad lad
Now sell them all for 2 gp and get....a.....really low gp/hr. Gz
Nice
Oh this reminds me I have had an offer on rs3 buying cosmic tiaras for probably 5+ years now.. I oughta check on that..
254m daily volume, bot farms are goin crazy
Nice. After 4 years you’re about 3/4ths of the way to your first Bond
You could high alch those and double your money 💰
I have plenty of these kinds of offers sitting, effectively you are multiplying the money in that slot slowly over time, on top of that if there ever happens to be a stupid update that increase the price by a factor of 50 (*cough* Rs3 runes *cough*) you would be unbelievably rich.
My bond for 1 coin still stands.
legit doubling
now flip it for 2gp ea
Yeah what happened with tht why is pure so cheap compared to run now? Bots?
Monsters shitting out p ess drops (zulrah, cox), lesser need for p ess due to new RC methods (gotr, zeah, daeyalt ess), new sources of p ess making it easier to get (scar essence mine)
Doubt bots have much to do with it, been at 1gp for a few weeks and at 2gp since 2019
Scar is an Ironman only mechanic. Its not impacting the economy for p ess
He still has a valid point, pure ess isn't used in for all runecrafting methods anymore and bosses shit them out
Just meant from rs2 days compared to osrs so many things arw super cheap... daxes being one get its cuz their are more sources now but 60k vs 1-3m
You’re welcome I bought 50 yesterday.
I’ve had a TBow offer for 100K sitting for about 2 months
Can't believe it hasn't filled yet
I buy pure ess after Corp trips and what not from clannies, but never from ge, closing in on 100m ess stack.
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but you didnt post it
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Some men can’t comprehend genius
Cool story
I thought that too and got near 1 mil lava runes for 1gp ea.
They're what, 13 now?
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Are you always this insufferable or just today?
Guarantee they are always, and I mean always, this insufferable
Only on the days of the week that end in “day” I reckon.
You look at profits in percentage not amounts, he made 1200% profit, which is very good lol.
Imagine being this lame
Free money is free money.
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they definitely sell for more if you let them sit a bit, he probably trippled his money atleast. I'm not membs right now but I would urge everyone strongly to invest in these though I doubt that there are any 1gp spots left by now. maybe with other items you could find some
Sounds like you know how to have fun
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and the day will come where some jmod thinks "hmm me dont like essence being worth 1 gp, let's change the amount that zulrah drops" and they will be worht 10x as much or some shit. Classic Jagex move.
Why not? If you don’t need the money it’s just another collection 🤷🏻♂️
And if you do need the money, it's easy to flip and make a profit
and if jagex fucks up you are a bazillionaire and eat tbow-steak for breakfast AND dinner
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I remember back in the day when that shit was 100gp each lmao